:D HBCs are not the only ones, many Schools have given Greeks the Boot no matter what!:(

See, I grow on You!:D

"Yes, there was a discussion about it at the time... it was not a personal attack against them but the point was raised that these people were not there to defend themselves and to assume their motives for wanting to start a chapter wasn't fair. I am comfortable speaking on their behalf because I spent close to an hour and a half talking with the two colonists about what it was like at Howard, which from the conversation we had was apparent nobody from NPHC did. "

As I understand, PKA was asked to come to the Campus. This was said by a Member of the interest group at Howard.

I think He would know being a participant in the colonization.

OMG! We are on the same page again! :D

Always were, you just didnt realize it!:D :D

But you know this is scary for me. :D

Wow @ Howard Pikes "Colonization"
 

1. I did n't realize the original thread was deleted.(shady)

2. After all is said and done...the HU community has NOT embraced PiKA as revealed publicly in the student newspaper...sad, unfortunate, avoidable and understandable at the same time.

3. I think we will see the true value of the organization within the men who are the "colonizers" (that word just feels very uncomfortable) post graduation.

4. Even more interesting that PiKA members are "out and about" like 2 and a half months before any of the new members of the other Greeks organizations have been revealed to the campus...(I know their rush system is not the same...still interesting)

5. I wonder if the new members will want to "bond" with their Greek counterparts or for that matter care about their Greek counterparts. IE. I know who DST 10-A-91 and APhiA 10-B-91 are...and they definitely get special shouts when I see them.

Hmm...maybe that stuff is not important anymore in Greek life. :(

Re: Wow @ Howard Pikes "Colonization"
 

Interesting question. But I think they will do their best to associate with all of the Greek Organizations. They may seem to be an island but are they really?

NC A & T seems to be doing very well as the The LXA Chapter recruited 16 New Associates.:cool: This is the Spring Sem. and I dont know for sure how the Rush schedual is.

Re: Howard Pikes
 

I don't think colonization of PiKA is bad...However at Howard U. I think its misguided, shortsighted, and on some levels








sad.

(original poster's comments shortened to address specific points)

UNFRIENDLY is a VERY loose word usage...I think a better comparison would be to ask has a predominately White group of college Students EVER ventured to form a historically Black organization on a historically white campus.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, why would they? Thats like asking a baptist minister and his congregation to go into a mormon community and set up a mosque.

Diversity at Howard University is NOT an interest or need.

Diversity cannot be a one-way road.

Howard claims otherwise on its own web site:

http://www.howard.edu/campustour/Exp.../Diversity.htm

Usually for the same reasons a small number of PWIs do not allow GLOs.

That link brings up a interesting point about diversity. Eespecially since it says multi-cultural diversity and goes on to point out the support in gives International students.

I guess I don't see White students at Howard as diversity. Why? Because to me diversity is becoming exposed to, and learning about other cultures. Personally I grew up and still live in the White American culture.

Re: Re: Howard Pikes
 

GREAT POST!

Yes. I should have gone deeper...diversity is one of those words now folks use to get funding.

International students are a part of the fabric of Howard University...and they pay more to attend HU too ;) ...so if that's HU's idea of diversity...I stand corrected. But "diversity" in the corporate sense...uh, no...that's NOT Howard University.

Please remember, PKA did not come to Howard Un. Students at Howard Un. Requested them to come.

If they requested PKA to come and it was accepted by The University, Students and Other GLOs that is their right.

Diversity is supposed to show the way of getting along, I have not seen this here on GC by some posters!:(

What is said Here Will Not change what happened and still happen there.

I just wish The New Fraternity at Howard Luck and Congratulations!

Why dont some of You!

Some of us already have. You're not going to get 100% participation on that. Idealistic but not realisitic.

I'm looking forward to what that colony will grow into after the original 58 colonizers.

Re: Re: Howard Pikes
 

Um actually Finer Woman, this has happened with every historically white GLO on Howard's campus. Phi Sigma Pi has line names, numbers, calls and hand symbols. Delta Sigma Pi and Alpha Phi Omega have line names and numbers. Even Pals have a call and hand symbol now. Student government has calls. Specific floors in the Quad make strolls. Clearly organizations and even individuals on Howard's campus absorb certain aspects of Greek life and make them their own. So if Pikes at Howard make up calls, strolls, line names/numbers and hand symbols, they would not be the first historically white or non-NPHC organization to do so by a long shot...

edited for: spelling and grammar because Word usually does it for me...

Re: Re: Re: Howard Pikes
 

And it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing if this Pike chapter did embrace some local tradition. According to the anecdotes I've read on GC, many chapters of many different GLOs have local traditions as well as national ritual. It doesn't take away from their bond in the brother/sisterhood, but ties them into the campus.

I've said this before and will probably get heat for it again. One does not lose their pride in their ethnic background just because they choose to join a group that is predominantly of a different race.

Re: Re: Re: Howard Pikes
 

We know this but thanks for reinforcing the point that some people have been making since they first heard about PIKE coming to HU. :)

On another note, will every PIKE at HU thread be a reiteration of posts from previous PIKE at HU threads? How redundant can people be everytime someone gives us a PIKE at HU update?

close....
 

don't you think it is time that this thread is closed? We have beat
this Pike thing to death and it is, frankly, none of our business.
PiKA is not the first historically white to go on to a historically black campus, there are at least five of them and at least four of
the NIC historically white outfits who have. So, big deal.
Why don't we go about our business and let Howard and Pike do
the same?

Re: close....
 

No. It doesn't violate TOS and it technically isn't a duplicate thread since the other has disappeared.

People will eventually get tired of talking about PIKE at HU and be done with it. Why don't you lead by example instead of also beating the topic to death by giving us your shhpill?

Synchronize your watches.

Update: courtesy of www.pikes.org
 

3/4/2006

Howard University

http://www.pikes.org/media/images/features/howard_3.jpg

The Supreme Council is proud to recognize Pi Kappa Alpha's newest colony at Howard University.

Located in the nation's capital, Washington D.C., Howard University was founded March 2, 1867; almost one year to the day before the founding of Pi Kappa Alpha. The university community includes over 11,000 students from 46 of the 50 states and over 80 countries. Howard is a private, nonsectarian institution and the largest predominantly black university in the United States. There are six undergraduate and eleven graduate schools. Known for its rich heritage and historic Greek organizations, Howard is the birthplace of many of the members of the National Pan-Hellenic National Council, also known as the "Divine Nine".


http://www.pikes.org/infoCenter/feat...ts/HowardU.xml

:)

Nice Job PIKE!

Re: Update: courtesy of www.pikes.org
 

Well done!

Re: Re: close....
 

The original thread is still out there. I did a search and it popped right up.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ghlight=howard

"The colony is the largest Greek fraternity on campus with as many men as its nearest competitor."

This statement from the website concerns me. Especially since NPHC orgs do not compete for members.

"The colony has already demonstrated its potential, recruiting five more men within a week of its formal colonization. With the continued support of local alumni and university administrators, this new colony should prove to be a dominant force on the famous Howard University campus."

The underlined also concerns me for reasons I won't go into here.

Re: Re: Re: close....
 

The link you posted is not the original thread.

So is someone trying to compare that colony to the NPHC?

Re: Update: courtesy of www.pikes.org
 

the one on the far right is a cutie..but I don't know if I could see a DST/PKA license plate. :confused:

I think the 3rd from the left is a cutie. :)

Me too.

You are not the only one.

Re: Re: Update: courtesy of www.pikes.org
 

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHAHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAH HA

Many well wishes to the newest colony of Pike. I hope that they continue to offer something to the university community and that their members reach their fullest potential as both collegiate and alumni members.

good goin'
 

now that the Pikes have seemingly entrenched themselves by
giving the erudite Howard folk a choice, (edited by moderator to remove a phrase you've been continually warned not to use)

http://www.siyclone.com/forum//style...spitcoffee.gif

Yeah he is a cutie;)

Re: Re: Update: courtesy of www.pikes.org
 

LOL!!!!!

As an HU student...I am very glad that PKA has come to campus...I see it as ground breaking...and I am proud my HBCU is the first to do so....but I do have a few points I want to mention...

The D9 orgs on campus (in my opinion) need to take a looong hard look at themselves. They disrespect EVERY other Greek org on the yard, not just social ones. I have had Deltas tell me I am either not Greek or a "half" Greek just because neither one of my orgs is PanHell...when D9 members run major school publications (IE the Yearbook or the newspaper) magically other Greek orgs on campus get shunned and called "clubs" or "groups". Mnay of them view the non Pan Hell Greeks as "stepping stones" to become Pan Hell...it's riduclous. Kappa Alpha Psi (which hasn't been on the yard offically in 5 years at least) gets more respect from student activites (which is filled with D9 members) than orgs with stable membership intake on the yard (such as the largest 3 frats on the yard: Phi Sigma Pi, Alph aPhi Omega, and Delta Sigma Pi). Who remembers when Alpha Phi Omega rechartered...and the Alphas and Ques cut a damn fool? I REMEMBER VIVDLY having Deltas disrespect me and my LSs when we rechartered Gamma Sigma Sigma and have continued to do so ever since....my TBS Chapter had some random Sigma post hateful messages on our guestbook on our website, yelling at us throwing up "his frat's sign". How many articles were posted in the Hilltop last year saying only the D9 have the right to have line numbers, names, colors, hand signs, and calls? TOO MANY TO NAME. I feel it is a spit in the face of yoru founders (many of whom came form HU by the way) the way some of your memebership disses the non D9 on this campus...do you have to criticize others in order to make yourself look good? That's the impression I get from the actives at this school...well, at least the actives who were here the past few years.

I would think you would rather they go and charter a frat they feel they would belong to rather than to pledge your orgs and be a do nothing memebr......


That's just my 2 cents....I could go on longer...but I know my words will probably fall on deaf ears...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ladygreek
[B]"The colony is the largest Greek fraternity on campus with as many men as its nearest competitor."

I find that hard to believe....Alpha Phi Omega and Phi Sigma Pi CONSISTENTLY have HUGE numbers

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Empress0105
[B]I had more of an issue with the idea of competition, not the issue of who had the largest numbers. Why would APO be considered a competitor anyway since you can hold joint membership in APO and a BGLO? (I am not familiar with Phi Sigma Pi.) And just to be clear, that statement came from the PIKA national website.

As for your previous post, spell check and white space are your friends.

If you what you say is true, then I am sorry for what happened to you. But I also have to ask was there an action that caused such a reaction?