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honeychile 02-03-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by BSP_Nicole


P.S.: Thanks Honeychile for the picture posting help!

You're welcome! We have that in our Forum, should you need it again!

Also, you are entitled to wear your husband's tartans, since you are married to him. :) I have a few others I could wear, but I tend to stick to the three I showed.

(The Picts were the people of prehistoric Britain!)

Beryana 02-03-2006 10:47 PM

Honeychile-
It would be okay for me to wear the Sinclair tartan, right? This is assuming that I am able to trace the Sinclair line back to Scotland and not somewhere else. Does it matter the Sinclairname is about 6 Generations back? I'm thinking of adding something about the Sinclairs into my Civil War reenacting persona and that is based on my 3xgreat-grandmother (whose mother's maiden name is Sinclair).

Sarah

aephi alum 02-04-2006 10:48 AM

I was looking around for other MacLeod tartans (there are a few, including the MacLeod of Lewis that BSP_Nicole posted, which I happen to detest - yellow is so not my color :p ) - Anyway, I found this:

Crest Cross Stitch

I may just have to get it. Unfortunately I can't figure out if they'll ship to the US...

PhoenixAzul 02-04-2006 11:19 AM

RE: Haggis
 
I had haggis for the first time last weekend. It was DELICIOUS. It tastes nothing like what you think it would. It's quite spicy and very tasty. Seriously, you just have to not think about it too much.

ETA: Badge of Clan Cumming
http://houseoftartan.co.uk/clan/badge/smline/cb029.gif

honeychile 02-04-2006 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beryana
Honeychile-
It would be okay for me to wear the Sinclair tartan, right? This is assuming that I am able to trace the Sinclair line back to Scotland and not somewhere else. Does it matter the Sinclairname is about 6 Generations back? I'm thinking of adding something about the Sinclairs into my Civil War reenacting persona and that is based on my 3xgreat-grandmother (whose mother's maiden name is Sinclair).

Sarah

That's the beauty of SCOTS genealogy - once a Sinclair, always a Sinclair! In most cultures, once a woman marries, she is no longer entitled to wear or use her maiden name's crest or whatever!

I have my Elizabeth Sinclair back to Philly around 1710 - married to a Robert Hunter. Any luck of our being related? ;)

CougADPi 02-04-2006 02:51 PM

Fergusson Modern
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Ferguson.jpg

Fergusson Ancient
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/FergusonOC.jpg

Fergusson Crest
http://www.scotclans.com/img/Fergusson/crest.gif

And yes, it FERGUSSON not Ferguson. Its very important! :-D

BSP_Nicole 02-04-2006 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum
I was looking around for other MacLeod tartans (there are a few, including the MacLeod of Lewis that BSP_Nicole posted, which I happen to detest - yellow is so not my color :p ) -
This site has 5 MacLeod tartans, you might want to give it a look.

(Yellow is my favorite color, so that might be why I love the MacLeod of Lewis dress tartan - wish I had the lineage to wear it!) ;)

Beryana 02-04-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
That's the beauty of SCOTS genealogy - once a Sinclair, always a Sinclair! In most cultures, once a woman marries, she is no longer entitled to wear or use her maiden name's crest or whatever!

I have my Elizabeth Sinclair back to Philly around 1710 - married to a Robert Hunter. Any luck of our being related? ;)

How wonderful that I can still wear the tartan! :)

I'm not sure if we are related - though I'm sure we are if we go back far enough. I have only been able to trace my Sinclairs back to about 1786 New Hampshire/Vermont and here is where I am stuck! I may have possibly found a sibling of Daniel Sinclair but I'm not certain as that area of New England had quite a few Scots - kind of like central Wisconsin and Poles. LOL

Sarah

aephi alum 02-04-2006 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
This site has 5 MacLeod tartans, you might want to give it a look.

(Yellow is my favorite color, so that might be why I love the MacLeod of Lewis dress tartan - wish I had the lineage to wear it!) ;)

Ooh, I like that MacLeod Red! :)

Thanks!

honeychile 02-04-2006 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CougADPi
Fergusson Modern
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Ferguson.jpg

Fergusson Ancient
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/FergusonOC.jpg

Fergusson Crest
http://www.scotclans.com/img/Fergusson/crest.gif

And yes, it FERGUSSON not Ferguson. Its very important! :-D

Beautiful tartans!

FYI - the first rule of genealogy is that, since spelling was only standardized about 200 years ago, names that are similar are often the same. Hence, Soundex! It's a system which allows you to trace names more easily. In fact, I've often said that, if I ever get a tatoo, it will be Soundex, on my one hand!

One of my other names I trace is McCullough. There are 28 ways of spelling McCullough. Had I ignored the other 27, I would not have been able to get as far back as I have!

[/lecture!]

honeychile 02-04-2006 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beryana
How wonderful that I can still wear the tartan! :)

I'm not sure if we are related - though I'm sure we are if we go back far enough. I have only been able to trace my Sinclairs back to about 1786 New Hampshire/Vermont and here is where I am stuck! I may have possibly found a sibling of Daniel Sinclair but I'm not certain as that area of New England had quite a few Scots - kind of like central Wisconsin and Poles. LOL

Sarah

*gets Patriot Index*

There are 33 Sinclair-Sinkler-St. Clair-St. Clare's in there. I can see that a LOT of them are in NH/VT!! I have the fun of my ancestors being completely schizophrenic, and filing in VA - even the ones who lived in PA! It depends on which side of the Alleghenies they were on at the time! Most of the Sinclares - so far - have been in PA, though.

Beryana 02-04-2006 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
*gets Patriot Index*

There are 33 Sinclair-Sinkler-St. Clair-St. Clare's in there. I can see that a LOT of them are in NH/VT!! I have the fun of my ancestors being completely schizophrenic, and filing in VA - even the ones who lived in PA! It depends on which side of the Alleghenies they were on at the time! Most of the Sinclares - so far - have been in PA, though.

Well, I have the birth certificate (well, almost) for Adeline Sinclair in Mount Holly, Rutland, VT and her parent's marriage certificate (once again, almost) from NH - probably Chesterfield as that is where Charlotte Hubbard is from.

I checked at least the online Patriot Index and this branch (Sinclair-Mudge) has at least two more ancestors. John Mudge (husband of Hannah Hutchinson) and Ephraim Hubbard (husband to Lucy Willard). Does the hard copy of the Patriot index list children? If so, could you see if there is a Daniel Sinclair listed as a kid (b 1786, d after 1840)?

You rock! :)

Sarah

honeychile 02-04-2006 11:47 PM

No, the Patriot Index doesn't show children. There's a Daniel b. in 1759, m. isabella Auchmuty d.1835, but he's in PA.

What was the other Daniel's parent's father's name? I should warn you, that's one of the major bonuses about being at my mother's house - she has THE most extensive genealogical library of any non-professional I know!

honeychile 02-04-2006 11:57 PM

Since you're researching Scottish ancestors, chances are good that they were Presbyterian. Most of the Presbyterian churches across the country have been opening their records for genealogists! In fact, I have found four generations in one church's records!

Beryana 02-04-2006 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
No, the Patriot Index doesn't show children. There's a Daniel b. in 1759, m. isabella Auchmuty d.1835, but he's in PA.

What was the other Daniel's parent's father's name? I should warn you, that's one of the major bonuses about being at my mother's house - she has THE most extensive genealogical library of any non-professional I know!

That's the problem - I don't know what my Daniel Sinclair's father's name is. I don't have his birth record (yet) and, this is something I really shouldn't be saying, but I can't remember where I got his birth year from! I have him in the 1820 census in Mount Holly, Rutland, VT and his marriage certificate is from New Hampshire in 1812. That's about it. :(

Sarah

honeychile 02-05-2006 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Beryana
That's the problem - I don't know what my Daniel Sinclair's father's name is. I don't have his birth record (yet) and, this is something I really shouldn't be saying, but I can't remember where I got his birth year from! I have him in the 1820 census in Mount Holly, Rutland, VT and his marriage certificate is from New Hampshire in 1812. That's about it. :(

Sarah

I wish I knew more about New England - that's one line I haven't traced well yet.

Hint: go to Fun Stuff For Genealogists and order their informational post-it notes. They are WONDERFUL!!! The one lineage society I'm in does ask where you found the info, the date you found it, etc. and these are a godsend! Plus, there's a million other things you'll just have to have, once you see it!!

http://www.funstuffforgenealogists.c...our-source.jpg

I have this, as I don't like to guess at acres, etc while researching:
http://www.funstuffforgenealogists.c.../clipboard.jpg

Plus, I've met a few other addicts while wearing my "Genealogy - Life in the Past Lane" shirt!

Beryana 02-05-2006 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I wish I knew more about New England - that's one line I haven't traced well yet.

Well, if you would like me to do some searching up there for you, let me know. While not there physically, I am a member of the New England Genealogical and Historical Society and have found some great info about a few of my lines - since everyone so far has lived no further south than MA (well, at least before the moved to Wisconsin!)!

Okay, so to at least pretend to bring our hijack back on topic. . . . .

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/...s_sinclair.jpg
This is another favorite Sinclair Tartan - it's the dress tartan.

Sarah

MysticCat 02-06-2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
This site has 5 MacLeod tartans, you might want to give it a look.

(Yellow is my favorite color, so that might be why I love the MacLeod of Lewis dress tartan - wish I had the lineage to wear it!) ;)

The MacLeod of Harris/Modern Hunting MacLeod tartan (and its hunting and muted variations):
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodHtg.jpg

and the Dress/MacLeod of Lewis
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodDr.jpg

are not interchangeable, however. MacLeod of Harris and MacLeod of Lewis are two different branches of Clan MacLeod, with different tartans, badges, mottos, separate chiefs, etc.

My family, for example, is associate only with MacLeod of Harris. We don't/can't wear the Dress MacLeod of Lewis tartan, which is fine by me. I think it's a little garish.

aephi alum 02-06-2006 09:14 PM

According to this web site any MacLeod can wear either the yellow or the green tartan, these days anyway. I was always given to understand that I could wear either.

BBelleADPi 02-06-2006 10:06 PM

Honey and Beryana-

I, too, am a St. Clair, on my mother's side! Right now, I've only been able to get my hands on one item, and have only traced it back to four generations. (And they were at one time in Nashville, Tennessee). But all of my maternal and paternal geneologies are done-it was my grandfather's hobby when he retired from his post at the university. I just have to find everything! (Oh, my mother would SO kill me!)

honeychile 02-06-2006 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBelleADPi
Honey and Beryana-

I, too, am a St. Clair, on my mother's side! Right now, I've only been able to get my hands on one item, and have only traced it back to four generations. (And they were at one time in Nashville, Tennessee). But all of my maternal and paternal geneologies are done-it was my grandfather's hobby when he retired from his post at the university. I just have to find everything! (Oh, my mother would SO kill me!)

Woo Hoo!! We'll have to have a meeting of the Clan!!

I can't wait to see what your grandfather has to show!

GangsterOfLove 02-07-2006 02:11 PM

Interesting...

My great-grandfather was a MacGregor. I guess that's the tartan of my "ancestors".

Rudey 02-07-2006 08:46 PM

When I see this thread title I think of fish sauce.

Anyone else?

-Rudey

CougADPi 02-08-2006 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
FYI - the first rule of genealogy is that, since spelling was only standardized about 200 years ago, names that are similar are often the same. ne of my other names I trace is McCullough. There are 28 ways of spelling McCullough. Had I ignored the other 27, I would not have been able to get as far back as I have!

[/lecture!]

Oh I know...but its kind of a joke with my family. We don't know any others who spell it with two S's, so we always tell people that they spell it wrong and we're the only one's who are right! Even funnier, my great grandfather changed it...we used to be 1 S too!

honeychile 02-08-2006 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CougADPi
Oh I know...but its kind of a joke with my family. We don't know any others who spell it with two S's, so we always tell people that they spell it wrong and we're the only one's who are right! Even funnier, my great grandfather changed it...we used to be 1 S too!
Got it! The founder of our genealogical society was a Harriss, and always said, "With two s's." My daddy used to say, "Yep, she's right - there are definitely two s's back there, and she's a pain in both!" I'm sure you can imagine how he pronounced the "s's"!! ;)

He was being nice for my mother's sake: Mrs. Harriss was stuck on one of the problems she was having in completely her genealogical certification, and my mother told her where to look. She would never admit it, though!

Would saying that I find Craig Ferguson terribly sexy fit in this thread? It has been noted that I have this thing for Scotsmen!

kstar 02-08-2006 12:39 PM

Wow, are there no other Shaws on here? I knew it was one of the smaller clans, but I didn't think it was that small.

MysticCat 02-08-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum
According to this web site any MacLeod can wear either the yellow or the green tartan, these days anyway. I was always given to understand that I could wear either.
Interesting. Most sources I have seen (none of which I can find now, of course) say the opposite.

I'm wearing my MacLeod Hunting tie today:
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodHtgOC.jpg
(Mine is much more muted, though -- the green is almost brown)


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