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SmartBlondeGPhB 05-28-2006 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by FSUZeta
i would not go to their concerts. my point is, if i am paying upwards of $100 to attend a musical concert, i want to hear music!

If you're paying that much, you paid too much. My Toby Keith FLOOR seats weren't even $100.

Jill1228 05-28-2006 10:51 PM

Ditto!
And right now I am cranking their CD in my car! :)

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Originally posted by JennRN
I love the Dixie Chicks and always have! I'll continue to go to their concerts and buy their music. So what if they don't llike Bush-I don't either!!

And we're all allowed to say it-whether we're in America, London, Guam, whatever!!


amanda6035 05-29-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by oceanphi01

And boycotting someone because they have a different opinion isn't going to solve anything.

Sure it did. You don't hear them on country radio anymore...well, with the exception of those lame internet radio stations on shoutcast. Luckily I dont have to worry about flipping channels in my car though.

Tippiechick 05-29-2006 08:06 PM

As always, I support women who have the balls to say what they think regardless of what other people might think. I love their music. And, even if I didn't agree with Natalie that I am ashamed of Bush, I would still buy their music.

The end.

Tippiechick 05-29-2006 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Sure it did. You don't hear them on country radio anymore...well, with the exception of those lame internet radio stations on shoutcast. Luckily I dont have to worry about flipping channels in my car though.

YOU might not hear them on country radio, my dear. Don't generalize. I live near Nashville and still hear plenty of their music.

*Hearing dueling banjos playing in the background of Amanda's posts*

amanda6035 05-29-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Tippiechick
*Hearing dueling banjos playing in the background of Amanda's posts*
WTF is THAT supposed to mean?

amanda6035 05-29-2006 08:44 PM

http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?St...2-101753-8848r

Country radio nixes Dixie Chicks
NASHVILLLE, Tenn., May 22 (UPI) -- It appears the war U.S. country radio stations mounted against the politically outspoken Dixie Chicks has not abated in the least.

The band is promoting "Taking the Long Way," its first album since Natalie Maines told a London audience in 2003 she was ashamed to be from the same state as U.S. President George Bush. The comment sparked a radio boycott of the group's music.

Although the album hits stores Tuesday, the first two singles from the album are not getting widespread airplay, Billboard.com reported Monday.

The first single, "Not Ready to Make Nice," only peaked at No. 36 on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart and the second single, "Everybody Knows," is moving downward after its peak at No. 48.

WKIS FM in Miami reported it pulled "Not Ready to Make Nice" due to listener complaints after only one week.

The program director at KUBL/KKAT in Salt Lake City told Billboard he was angered by its "self-indulgent and selfish lyrics."

Neither the Chicks or their label, Columbia Records, would speak to Billboard for its article.

oceanphi01 05-29-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?St...2-101753-8848r

The program director at KUBL/KKAT in Salt Lake City told Billboard he was angered by its "self-indulgent and selfish lyrics."



Of course he would say that.

:rolleyes:

I thought it was a darn good way to get their point across, but hey, who listens to me? So I'm just going to sit back with my bowl of popcorn and prop up my feet and watch as people go at each other because of a difference of opinion. Maybe that is selfish and self-indulgent, but no one is going to make me change my mind about this. The Dixie Chicks rock...and they aren't the only Texans I know of who are ashamed to come from the same state as Dubya...

amanda6035 05-29-2006 09:16 PM

no going at it from this end - difference of opinions. The only reason I posted that article was to prove that, to this day, they ARE still being banned. To each their own. Good for them, they stood up for what they believed . Now I'm standing up for what I believe. I'm not going to buy anything of theirs or support anything that endorses them. Thats my way of handling the situation. I may be the only one on GC who feels that way, but I can assure you, I'm not a needle in a haystack in this situation.

33girl 05-29-2006 09:31 PM

The Dixie Chicks are on the cover of this week's Time.

amanda6035 05-29-2006 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by AXiD670
I thought the reason the Dixie Chicks were no longer being played on Country stations was b/c they're not marketing themselves as a Country group anymore?
true - but many people believe that the reason they arent marketting themselves as country anymore is because they hacked off alot of that fan base. But, I've read articles that have also said that they wanted to go pop to get a "wider exposure" too....so who knows what the real story is?

kddani 05-30-2006 06:25 AM

Dixie Chicks definitely can appeal more to a pop audience. I DESPISE country but like the Dixie Chicks.

I would also say that the pop audience is a little more open to artists actually using their First Amendment rights as opposed to the country audience. The country audience does tend to be more on the conservative side of things, which lately has taken on the view that the First Amendment doesn't count if you're talking bad view against the President. Given Bush's approval ratings now, however, I wonder if they made those comments in this present time if it would cause such a brouhaha

KSigkid 05-30-2006 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
The country audience does tend to be more on the conservative side of things, which lately has taken on the view that the First Amendment doesn't count if you're talking bad view against the President.
Now that's quite the generalization...I didn't realize all of us conservatives were against the First Amendment.

kddani 05-30-2006 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
Now that's quite the generalization...I didn't realize all of us conservatives were against the First Ammendment.
I didn't say all. And I didn't say against the First Amendment. I said when it pertained to criticism of our president.

KSigkid 05-30-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
I didn't say all. And I didn't say against the First Amendment. I said when it pertained to criticism of our president.
My misunderstanding then - your statement seemed to paint all conservatives as waiving the First Amendment when it comes to the President.

Rudey 05-30-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
My misunderstanding then - your statement seemed to paint all conservatives as waiving the First Amendment when it comes to the President.
It does. She's just trying to backpeddle.

Anyway, all politics aside, they suck. There are a ton of musicians that are vocal against the President and actually do something about it, and a lot of them are good, like the Beastie Boys. How come they aren't getting this attention?

Oh hey maybe it's because their PR agents didn't use their connections to get them on the cover of a magazine and pretend their listeners went away because of their political views?

-Rudey

33girl 05-30-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
It does. She's just trying to backpeddle.

Anyway, all politics aside, they suck. There are a ton of musicians that are vocal against the President and actually do something about it, and a lot of them are good, like the Beastie Boys. How come they aren't getting this attention?

Oh hey maybe it's because their PR agents didn't use their connections to get them on the cover of a magazine and pretend their listeners went away because of their political views?

-Rudey

Theoretically, because the Beastie Boys appeal to a different audience that would most likely agree and pump their fists in the air if they said something negative against W.

Notice I said theoretically. I agree that they're milking this for all it's worth.

KSigkid 05-30-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Oh hey maybe it's because their PR agents didn't use their connections to get them on the cover of a magazine and pretend their listeners went away because of their political views?

-Rudey

True - they have some great PR people when you hear the public use words like "courage" to describe them. They're milking this for all it's worth.

Rudey 05-30-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Theoretically, because the Beastie Boys appeal to a different audience that would most likely agree and pump their fists in the air if they said something negative against W.

Notice I said theoretically. I agree that they're milking this for all it's worth.

Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson also held/hold anti-war views.

The fact is that these girls are has beens. It's OK though because rarely are pop-stars, popular after a while.

-Rudey

33girl 05-30-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson also held/hold anti-war views.

They've also both been to prison and had much more controversy in their lives overall than the Dixie Chicks. People expect them to open their mouths and say whatever they think, and would be disappointed if they didn't (well I guess at this point they'd be downright scared if Johnny opened his mouth, since he's dead 'n all).

Not disputing your point, I think people just take it differently when it comes out of cute little Natalie's mouth than Johnny's or Willie's.

AXi1257 05-30-2006 11:08 PM

Love the new album! I've always liked the Dixie Chicks and I always will. I'm not a GW fan at all, but I do support our troops 100%. Someone said it earlier and I'm too lazy to find out who right now, but you can support your troops even if you don't like why/how they got there! The Dixie Chicks are just standing up for what they believe in. Just my thoughts on the matter.

kddani 05-31-2006 11:37 AM

Dixie Chicks album debuts at No. 1 selling well over 500,000 copies in its first week
 
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1002610727

Rudey 05-31-2006 12:09 PM

Re: Dixie Chicks album debuts at No. 1 selling well over 500,000 copies in its first
 
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Originally posted by kddani
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1002610727
They're right above Disney's High School Musical and American Idol Season 5: Encores.

You gotta be proud when your managers times your CD to sell against that kind of competition after having your PR firm make sure everyone knows you're "Politically controversial".

-Rudey

GeekyPenguin 05-31-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Sure it did. You don't hear them on country radio anymore...well, with the exception of those lame internet radio stations on shoutcast. Luckily I dont have to worry about flipping channels in my car though.
Actually, you do in the lovely state of Wisconsin and its' slightly less lovely neighbor Minnesota.

http://www.topeuro.co.uk/blagger/the_duel.html

KSigkid 05-31-2006 08:02 PM

Re: Re: Dixie Chicks album debuts at No. 1 selling well over 500,000 copies in its first
 
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Originally posted by Rudey
They're right above Disney's High School Musical and American Idol Season 5: Encores.

-Rudey

You know what that means - they'd better get Mickey Mouse and the American Idols out there with their anti-Bush statements.

GeekyPenguin 05-31-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Re: Re: Dixie Chicks album debuts at No. 1 selling well over 500,000 copies in it
 
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Originally posted by KSigkid
You know what that means - they'd better get Mickey Mouse and the American Idols out there with their anti-Bush statements.
Look at the link I posted! It's a PENGUIN!

Sistermadly 05-31-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Theoretically, because the Beastie Boys appeal to a different audience that would most likely agree and pump their fists in the air if they said something negative against W.
And because the Beastie Boys have penises. Society still likes to put outspoken women in their place. I read an interesting editorial the other day where the writer compared the hate mail that female columnists get with that received by their male counterparts. By and large, the tone and tenor of the hate mail that women received was far more violent and personal and made many references to killing them/harming their families.

So yeah, I'm not all that surprised that the FBI was called because Natalie Maines received a death threat that detailed the hows, whens, and wheres of how she would be killed at a concert in Dallas. Fear is a powerful deterrent. I'm just glad that they weren't silenced.

Rudey 06-01-2006 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by Sistermadly
And because the Beastie Boys have penises. Society still likes to put outspoken women in their place. I read an interesting editorial the other day where the writer compared the hate mail that female columnists get with that received by their male counterparts. By and large, the tone and tenor of the hate mail that women received was far more violent and personal and made many references to killing them/harming their families.

So yeah, I'm not all that surprised that the FBI was called because Natalie Maines received a death threat that detailed the hows, whens, and wheres of how she would be killed at a concert in Dallas. Fear is a powerful deterrent. I'm just glad that they weren't silenced.

And you have no proof of that at all.

There are a ton of controversial female entertainers that are not put in their place.

I love how this goes from "People against freedom of speech hate them" to "People against non-country music hate them" to "People against women hate them".

How many excuses can people find for them just plain sucking?

-Rudey

moe.ron 06-01-2006 08:37 AM

Have to give credits to the Dixie chicks PR machine. they put something out there and all the suckers started to generate the publicity for them. Don't you guys know anything about the music industry, the more controversial one is, the more recordsthey sell.

KSigkid 06-01-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
There are a ton of controversial female entertainers that are not put in their place.

-Rudey

...and plenty of controversial males who get death threats and the like. It's not a gender thing or a courage thing.

Sistermadly 06-01-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
And you have no proof of that at all.
What proof do I need when the band admitted in several interviews that they had to have the FBI at the show in Dallas to make sure that nothing happened?

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There are a ton of controversial female entertainers that are not put in their place.
Are there? Name them. Because all I can think of is the vehement reaction to women like the Chicks, to Hilary Clinton, to Maureen Dowd, and in some ways, to Ann Coulter, and countless women throughout history. Powerful men who express their opinions are respected. Powerful women who express their opinions are "bitches," "whores," or are told they'd better shut up and sing, or they'll be killed on X date in X arena at X time.

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I love how this goes from "People against freedom of speech hate them" to "People against non-country music hate them" to "People against women hate them".
Maybe it went there in your mind, but it's a logical progression to me. People who are threatened by anything that goes against the norm usually have a laundry list of things they fear or are against. You can ignore the fact that there is a gendered aspect to the response the Chicks get, but it doesn't make it any less true.


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How many excuses can people find for them just plain sucking?
If they suck, then say they suck. Don't say "Those bitches made me mad, and they deserve to die for what they said about the President." Make it plain and skip the hyperbole.

Sistermadly 06-01-2006 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Have to give credits to the Dixie chicks PR machine. they put something out there and all the suckers started to generate the publicity for them. Don't you guys know anything about the music industry, the more controversial one is, the more recordsthey sell.
Now that's true, because they've opened up their progressive fan base immensely as a result of the press they've been doing lately. I actually don't agree with them calling their former fans "rednecks" and the like in their interviews, because I think there was probably a better way to show that they felt betrayed/alienated by their audience than to descend into childish name-calling. But folks on the left like nothing better than to feel like they're morally and intellectually superior to people on the right, and they're snapping up the CD/downloading it by the thousands.

amanda6035 06-01-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Sistermadly
But folks on the left like nothing better than to feel like they're morally and intellectually superior to people on the right....
Make me laugh and spit my juice on the computer screen why dont ya? This would make for a FANTASTIC quote of the day...

Though I TOTALLY understand what you're saying - it still strikes me as quite amusing. :p

KSigkid 06-01-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Sistermadly
Are there? Name them. Because all I can think of is the vehement reaction to women like the Chicks, to Hilary Clinton, to Maureen Dowd, and in some ways, to Ann Coulter, and countless women throughout history. Powerful men who express their opinions are respected. Powerful women who express their opinions are "bitches," "whores," or are told they'd better shut up and sing, or they'll be killed on X date in X arena at X time.

Wow with the sweeping generalizations...

What about "powerful men" such as Martin Luther King, RFK and JFK? Or the ones who don't go public with the death threats or other threats they receive?

Rollergirl2001 08-11-2006 02:11 AM

I applaud Natalie Maines for speaking out. Why can't some people respect her opinion? Just because people are speaking out against the war, doesn't mean that they are anti-Americans. Being an American is about using your 1st Amendment. Of course, there is a price to pay for using your 1st Amendment rights, but it is a free country y'all. We sould be lucky that we have free speech, because if we were in another country, and free speech were not allowed, they we would be killed for saying something.

I wanted to go see the Dixie Chicks in Memphis, but they cancelled and now the closest that they will play is Nashville. That sucks. :(

NinjaPoodle 11-21-2006 02:08 PM

They just had a concert in Oakland. Although i didnt attend, the reviews were said the show was great which I dont doubt. These girls are really talented

macallan25 11-21-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollergirl2001 (Post 1297279)
I applaud Natalie Maines for speaking out. Why can't some people respect her opinion? Just because people are speaking out against the war, doesn't mean that they are anti-Americans. Being an American is about using your 1st Amendment. Of course, there is a price to pay for using your 1st Amendment rights, but it is a free country y'all. We sould be lucky that we have free speech, because if we were in another country, and free speech were not allowed, they we would be killed for saying something.

I wanted to go see the Dixie Chicks in Memphis, but they cancelled and now the closest that they will play is Nashville. That sucks. :(


The fact that she spoke out against Bush and "apologized" for America's actions while in Europe was a pretty big deal. I think if she would have done it in the US it would have been slightly less criticized. Texans also didn't appreciate the fact that she said she was embarassed to be from Texas because George Bush is from there.

RACooper 11-21-2006 02:57 PM

I still don't get what the big stink is about really - yeah the critized the President... so what everyone has. So she's embarassed that the President is from Texas... so what I'm sure there are a hell of alot of other people.

macallan25 11-21-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RACooper (Post 1360873)
I still don't get what the big stink is about really - yeah the critized the President... so what everyone has. So she's embarassed that the President is from Texas... so what I'm sure there are a hell of alot of other people.

I don't think you understand how it is in, Texas. It is a very loyal state. When some says that they are embarassed to live in Texas or embarassed that someone is from Texas......its going to make a stir, especially when they all still live there. Natalie Maines' father is also one of the most famous musicians in the State....which added to it. He practically disowned her.....and the state still practically boycotts everything they do.

RACooper 11-21-2006 03:07 PM

See I get the Texas pride and such... but if you feel someone has dishnoured Texas would you express it... oh wait you already are...


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