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GeekyPenguin 12-03-2005 12:36 AM

Ksigkid, you might want to take the test now - law school makes your IQ go down.

starang21 12-03-2005 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Touchy tonight, aren't we?

Nowhere did I say that you didn't deserve any of the scholarships you were given or that your IQ wasn't high. I'm just correcting the wide-spread assumption (that, while you may not believe in it yourself, was perpetuated by your post) that early IQ tests are accurate. They're not. This is why a number of schools have moved away from the IQ test as a method of measuring "giftedness" in recent years.

isn't youth the point in time in a person's life in which their mental capacities are the most (for lack of a better term) pure?

Rudey 12-03-2005 03:55 AM

http://www.psychologicaltesting.com/iqtest.htm
http://www.gt-cybersource.org/Articl...aspx?rid=11267

The rationale for assessment conveniently coincides with the experts' recommendations regarding the best age for testing. Generally, testing is believed to be most reliable and most predictive between the ages of six and nine years old. Although many of the modern assessments are approved to be administered to children as young as two years old, the consensus among professionals is that there is rarely a need to test before the child is ready to enter school and that testing at younger ages may not provide reliable results.

-Rudey

KSigkid 12-03-2005 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Ksigkid, you might want to take the test now - law school makes your IQ go down.
Haha, maybe. Although, working at a preschool during college may have done some damage as well.

AchtungBaby80 12-03-2005 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
That's why I joined a sorority ;)
Heee heee heee!

James 12-21-2005 06:03 AM

I believe it decreases the validity of being in mensa that they take tests like the SAT and LSAT.

Those are both aptitude type tests that are easily studied for and your score can increase drastically.

I am not sure that preparing for one of those tests increases your real world aptitude.

For example: If you scored 1250 plus on the SAT between 1974 and 1994 you qualify for Mensa. If you scored 1300 plus on tests before 1974 you qualify for mensa.



But isn't that only really accurate for people that didn't do the prep courses? If you took a prep course to teach you the test, or did a lot of practice work . . how is that score a measure an accurate measure of your natural giftedness?

After the test we renormed in a politically correct way, mensa won't accept its scores anymore.

Same thing applies to the LSAT. A friend of mine scored a 173 on it . .. after two prep courses, prior to the competion of the prep work he was scoring like a 154.

He's not stupid or anything by far, but he isn't an effortless learner. He works hard for what he gets. Certainly not genius.

kstar 12-21-2005 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by James
I believe it decreases the validity of being in mensa that they take tests like the SAT and LSAT.

Those are both aptitude type tests that are easily studied for and your score can increase drastically.

Actually before they reformed those tests, they were of a different format that also tested intelligence, not just aptitude. Before they had sections that were similar in structure to the Otis-Lennon Test, which is an IQ test, highly used in schools to identify their gifted students.

They stopped taking those test scores when the tests were changed.

sugar and spice 12-21-2005 11:55 AM

Also -- I've only taken one legitimate IQ test, but I would not be surprised if you could bump up your score by practicing that, too. Not to the extent that you can bump up your score on, say, the SAT, but you could still definitely raise it.

pinkyphimu 12-22-2005 01:05 AM

just from the teacher side of the fence....most schools are not using IQ tests to place children in gifted classes as they did when the majority of us on gc were school aged. the trend is to focus on one area (writing or math for example) and take children who excel in that area. some programs i have seen for children in programs that focus on writing included writing and illustrating a book (3rd graders) or putting together newspapers (4th graders). additionally, just because you were in a gifted class one year, does not automaticly qualify you to be in the next year's gifted program. the entrance requirements vary by the program and year, but few use an IQ test.


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