Age aside, I'd say if people knew your track record, they'd turn you away like crazy. Like others have said, it seems like you have a huge commitment problem. You dive into things, then bail when you change your mind. Greek life isn't just something you do for awhile. It's for life. They want people who will commit for a lifetime, and with your track record, it doesn't look like you will.

Greek life isn't for everyone. I'd focus more on making sure you know what you want to do with your life. After you're sure of that, then maybe explore it. Until then, I'd get my priorities straight.

About the wole wedding planning/event planning thing, after talking to people on here about it and doing more research, I realized that it wasn't for me. Could I do it and do it well? Yes, but it wasn't something I'd feel passionate about.

One night, I was walking along when I had that epiphanic moment that everyone talks about. "Jestor, you great blooming ruddy idiot! Isn't it obvious? You want to be a a coach!" my mind said.

Well, okay, it wasn't that sudden. It was more like, I started thinking about happiness and why I still seemed to have a sense of restlessness and uncertainty. Then I remembered that the times I've been happiest in my life have been when I've been coaching, both in practice and particularly during games.

Like I said, I feel like a moron for not figuring it out sooner, but that's what happened and so there you go.

And yes, there was a period where I had doubts about Sigma Chi, but I'd gotten over them and was going to initiate, because I liked the guys in the chapter and was really getting comfortable like before and all, but then I had the revelation I described above and I knew I wasn't going to stay. Now, had there been a chapter at the school I'm transferring to, then I would have initiated and gone through the process that the other chapter required. At the time I started this thread, I still hadn't realized what I know now.

Do I have an effeminate personality? I'm certainly not going to deny that one. I prefer to think of it more in terms of a poetic/lyric light, but considering I'm male, effeminate is an apt enough descriptor.

Am I gay or bisexual? No. While I can appreciate good looks in both men and women, the lone sphere of my sexual attraction and desire is with women.

Moving right along, I'm well aware that Greek life is forever. I know that. While I might seem a dilletante in many respects, there are other areas where I remain firmly committed. This will be one of them.

I know without any question that the career path I'm heading towards is where I belong, that the school I'm going to next is where I belong, and that my Greek home will be found there.

Doubt as you will, as it is only logical for a lot of you to do at this point in time. But I will prove your doubts in error and I look forward to doing so.

As often happens, James tries to talk like he knows everything. I don't agree at all with what James said, for the record, since he is trying to speak for everyone. I doubt that he spoke to ANYONE who posted in this thread. Sure didn't talk to me, and I know that there's a lot of other people that certainly wouldn't talk to him about it.

I don't give a shit which way you play. It might not be very endearing towards a potential fraternity and might hurt you with a bid, but I really couldn't give a flying duck. And though I do agree with James that you come off here as very effeminate, that has nothing to do with what i've posted. And again, I disagree with pretty much all James said.

Good luck with coaching. It's a VERY tough field to get into, especially for someone who hasn't played the sport on a college level (which i'm assuming you haven't, since you've transferred so much there's no way you could even be eligible to play an NCAA sport). High school jobs are part time (and pay, literally, peanuts), some college jobs are as well. What sport do you want to coach?

I thought that for most coaches, it was a hobby, not a profession. I don't mean to knock your dream, but it doesn't seem like a practical thing.

Either soccer or basketball. My coaching experience thus far has all been in soccer, though. I know it's a tough field to get into, but I know I can make a go of it with determination, hard work, networking, and luck.

Most coaches do have coaching as a part-time job and do something else in the offseason, but that depends, at least collegiately speaking, on what division you're talking about and what position you're talking about. I know lower-division assistant coaches, which is probably where I'd have to start out and then work my way up, usually make about $10,000 a year... so I'd have to work two jobs until I work my way up the ranks to a position where I can afford to have coaching as my only full-time job.

If I was going to go the high school route, then I'd get licensed as a teacher, since most school districts have the rule that if a teacher and a non-teacher both apply for a coaching job, the job goes to the teacher, qualifications be damned.

I almost took a junior varsity soccer coaching position a couple years back and that would have paid $1,000 for the season, so I have some idea of salary regions there too. I wound up not taking it as it would have meant three hours a day commuting and with my class schedule at the time, it would have been taking on too much without having schoolwork suffer.

But thanks for the well wishes. :)

There is a major for event mangment, though not a lot of schools offer it. I know this because it is part of my major (Sports, Entertainment and Event Mangment). Is it required to get a job in the field? Exprience counts more, but yes, you acutally really do need it if it's what you want to go into. There is so much that goes on while planning an event, wethere it be a wedding, a convention, or a gala, that it's crazy.

I loved my event mangment class and it gave me a better idea of what I wanted to do with my degree, and even though event planning isn't exactly what I want to go into, it is something that is offered and needed.

Jestor, I'm glad you realize that is it a hard field to go into. If you PM me I'll pass along some advice that was given to a few of the guys in my Intro to SEE class that want to go into coaching.

Good luck to you, and I'm gald that your not giving up. It's not easy, and remember, networking is KEY in this field.

1. Guess some people do not know everything.

2. Jestor, I hope You have found Your field.

I hope You make up Your mind soon and quit running around the school system. As was said, people do look a little jaundiced at it. NIC, age can come into play depending on this size of School and Greek System.

I won't try to be judgemental, because I don't know you from Adam's housecat. I just want to say I hope you find peace and happiness somewhere.

my two cents a little late...my friend really wanted to coach, too. she had an undergrad major in business administration and then went to grad school for sports administration. she was able to find jobs, however they were extrememly low paying and required a large time committment. given the time committment at certain times of year, she really was only able to keep temp jobs as her second source of income. that gave her more flexibility during her peak times. she was very lucky to be marrying a vet because she didn't make enough money to pay rent! oh, she ended up leaving coaching and being a stay at home wife...and more recently becoming a mom.

hey Jestor. Transfer to the U of Chicago and rush Alpha Epsilon Pi.

I know an alum from that chapter who would be thrilled to have you!

Man I don't know what world you live in. But I imagine it must be filled with wussies and fairies with some my little ponies sprinkled here and there.

I don't think people were rude to Jestor. Just honest and giving what they believe to be sincere advice. What do you want them to do? Ask him if he wants a sundae while he babysits their puppy name Penny? C'mon. In reality Jestor wouldn't get a bid from 70 percent of chapters across America. And if he does, it's probably to the sucky chapters that just want his money.

Yeah man, I really got bids from sucky chapters that just want my money all right. :rolleyes: Granted, one of the bids I received was from a fraternity where their main interest seemed to be partying and they gave short shrift to everything else, but the other one I would argue is one of the most respected and well-liked fraternities, both on the campus and nationwide.

And who is to say what will happen on the new campus? We'll just have to wait and see, now won't we? Though I will say, I have a very good feeling about it in all areas of school and Greek life.

And the sky is not color purple...

Can I ask you how does your response have any relevence to mine?

Not every campus has chapters that want to let in a 5-time transfer, brotherhood or not.

I agree.

Jestor, Not To Be a Downer, but You are still facialting and making not any sense?

1. Find a School with What You Think You Want!

2. They May Be Sucky Greek Organizations to You!

3. Why Dont You Get OUt Of The Picture?

4. Maybe Your So Called Standards are to High or Your Self Esteme is as Big as Your Ego!

Getting Old!:rolleyes:

As The Old Saying Is, "Shit Or Get Off Of The Pot"!

26 is THAT old? :confused:

I'll have to agree with PM Mama. I find some of the comments on the borderline of being offensive and ageist. There's different standards on different campuses. I don't really think the fraternities at my school would mind pledging someone like Jestor, as long as he fitted in. In fact they have. We just initiated a 25, 27, and a 29 year old. Two of them fit in my org and on campus as a whole more than some of the 20 year olds that I know.

Over half of the juniors or seniors has transferred at least once. What's wrong with transferring five times, if you thought the schools sucked? What's wrong with changing majors if you find out what you majored in suck? While this appear to be a commitment issue, it may not be the case. He just might have high standards. If he finds something he likes, he probably will stick with it. I was a member of an interest group for one sorority, and then I suddenly pledged another. After a few months, I wanted to drop out and pledge yet another sorority. Whatever I was looking for just didn't hit the spot. Then I found APhiO, and I have sticked with this for the last few years. I also majored in many things (not at the same time) as an undergrad. Fortunately, many of the courses within those majors overlapped.

So, Jester, if you really really want to do this Greeklife thing, I suggest transferring to a commuter or semi-commuter school. Peeps are much less uptight. I would just keep quiet about being a wedding planner and getting teary-eyed.

Slightly unrelated question, are YOU paying for your tuition? Sorry if I missed this. You are an adult now. I think adults should be able to do what they want as long as they don't hurt other people. Being an adult isn't only about being married and having 2.5 kids. It's also about making your own choices and accepting its consequences. It should'nt matter if you were 40 and still in college. Those kind of people would not be my cup of tea, but hey as long as they are paying for it with their own money it's fine. It would be unfair if you were in school this long and your parents were paying for it. I hope you are paying for all of this out of your pocket.

Yep, I'm paying for it. In fact, the only time my parents covered anything of my tuition costs was my first year of school, where they picked up what wasn't being covered by scholarships.

Ever since then though, it's been on my own dime.

I've gone to college in Wisconsin. I know people who are Greek on just about every campus in Wisconsin. I know what fraternity life is like here, and people will think it is weird that he is now at his 5th college - lots of people in Wisconsin transfer, ONCE, in a manner like this:

1) small campus -> Madison/Marquette
2) Madison/Marquette -> small campus
3) Madison/Marquette -> Madison/Marquette

They don't bounce all over the place for years.