I'm not saying I know that she took it. I just want to say I don't know what happened. That's all.

So using the word rape even in the connotation of a date rape drug, is pretty loaded.

-Rudey

Amen. Then it's JoeMcCarthy time.

"Doing" a drug isn't a felony.

While I feel your anger, I wanted to note that it is not a man's place to tell his girlfriend where she can and cannot go.

On another note, I guess it's beyond my comprehension that somebody would take GHB recreationally, especially so much of it. People are really that freaking stupid?

It is definitely used as a recreational drug and is considered a rave drug along with ketamine (special K) and rohypnol (roofies). When I was working adolescent psych 5 years ago, these were all huge and kids showed us that there were internet sites recommending how to use them (don't be alone, have a buddy to watch you and monitor your vitals, etc) to gain an "out of body" experience. They can be very scary drugs. According to the whitehousedrugpolicy.gov web site:

Prevalence Estimates

GHB is often ingested with alcohol by young adults and teens at nightclubs and parties. It is used as a pleasure enhancer that depresses the central nervous system and induces intoxication. It also can be used as a sedative to reduce the effects of stimulants (cocaine, methamphetamine, ephedrine) or hallucinogens (LSD, mescaline) and to prevent physical withdrawal symptoms.

Since 2000, GHB has been included in the University of Michigan's Monitoring the Future Survey questionnaire. Survey results indicate that annual GHB use by secondary school students in 2000 ranged from 1.1% among 10th graders to 1.2% among 8th graders and 1.9% among 12th graders. In 2001, estimates of annual GHB use ranged from 1.0% among 10th graders to 1.1% among 8th graders and 1.6% among 12th graders.

Regional Observations

According to CEWG, as of 2001, 15 CEWG areas reported increases in GHB indicators. They were Boston, Chicago, Dallas/Houston, Denver, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Newark, New York, Philadelphia, Phoenix, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco, and Seattle. Atlanta, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C., reported stable GHB indicators. Only two CEWG sites, Detroit and New Orleans, reported declines in GHB indicators. Most CEWG areas report that GHB is frequently used in combination with alcohol, causing users to overdose.

In 2000, according to the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC), GHB availability was stable or increasing in nearly every DEA Field Division and High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area. Many areas reported that the increased availability of GHB occurred in concert with a rise in rave activity. Law enforcement also reported increases in the number of cases involving GHB analogs.

According to Pulse Check: Trends in Drug Abuse, GHB users and sellers tend to be between the ages of 18 and 30. Most users are middle-class white males. GHB is typically packaged in plastic bottles (mostly water or sports drink bottles) and distributed by the capful for $5–$20 per dose. Additional packaging includes eyedropper bottles, glass vials, and mouthwash bottles.

It's beyond my comprehension too. Is GHB one of the drugs that make you forget everything the next morning?

I was recently drugged and woke up the next morning only remembered having 2 drinks. People that saw me out that night said I was in a practically comatose state. I hate having almost 10 hrs completely blacked out in my mind where I have no idea where I was or what I did. I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that on purpose.

Update Oct. 10, '05: Phi Kappa Tau Closes U. of Colorado Chapter

Phi Kappa Tau is closing its chapter at the U. of Colorado. The national fraternity reportedly regards the recent events at CU as "the last straw." The men living in the house will have to move out.

Story on a CBS station's web site at:

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/loc...283130644.html

Update Oct. 10, '05: Phi Kappa Tau Statement on Chapter Closing (U. of Colorado)

Phi Kappa Tau's statement is on their national web site at:

http://www.phikappatau.org/news/2005/200520.psi.asp

The subjective effects of GHb like substances and alcohol are almost identica. However, the GHb like substances don't cause hang overs or have calories.

Thats pretty attractive.

If the same fate doesn't befall the CU chapter of Sigma Pi, I will be very surprised.

Notice the trend, anyone? Incident on campus...investigation...chapter is closed...during investigation.

Why? Simple. The chapters made national news. No national is going to let their reputation get smeared, even if the investigation turns up nothing in the end.

Point? Keep your chapter off the evening news, or find somewhere else to live quickly.

Added to what AGDee said!

Do not do it Period.. Try To Think ahead or is the New Generation think they are so smart that they can get away with it?

GOD DAMN, Years for may of us have taught Us something and We have learned

But, I guess My Question is Have some of the Up and Comings learned or will learn?:(

It doesnt seem like it!:rolleyes:

Re: Test were negative
 

So no date rape drugs?

How do the girls that were screaming "Rape, Rape" feel now?

-Rudey