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DifferentDances 09-25-2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
It's all about context.

One thing I try to remember is that 'my' letters are not 'mine'. If I wanted to do something in the "name" of SigmaDiva, that is fine. I am representing me. But, if I want to do something using in some form the name of Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc., then I am representing about 80,000 other women too. All of my sorors (sisters) may not share the same feelings / attitudes about a subject that I might have, and I have to respect that.

This is certainly true. However, where does the line get drawn? You have your own feelings and attitudes, and your sorority sisters should respect that as well. Agree to disagree, as it were. (True in politics, religion, morals, etc.)

So if a young woman decides that she's proud of her body and would appreciate the income for posing in a skin zine, she should be allowed by her sisters to do so regardless of their own views on the morality of the matter, preferably without mentioning her letters, right? (I'm just thinking out loud here) But what happens when the chapter is actually fairly liberal and is proud to share in the young lady's glam and fame? Is she allowed to represent and acknowledge the sisters in her chapter by mentioning her letters?

Though I suppose then the hypothetical woman would be indeed representing a far larger body than is immediately relevant to her.

I don't know. On the one hand I want to protect everyone's right to be individual and express themselves, but on the other I do think ramifications to reputations should be considered.

sigmadiva 09-25-2005 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DifferentDances
This is certainly true. However, where does the line get drawn? You have your own feelings and attitudes, and your sorority sisters should respect that as well. Agree to disagree, as it were. (True in politics, religion, morals, etc.)

So if a young woman decides that she's proud of her body and would appreciate the income for posing in a skin zine, she should be allowed by her sisters to do so regardless of their own views on the morality of the matter, preferably without mentioning her letters, right? (I'm just thinking out loud here) But what happens when the chapter is actually fairly liberal and is proud to share in the young lady's glam and fame? Is she allowed to represent and acknowledge the sisters in her chapter by mentioning her letters?

Though I suppose then the hypothetical woman would be indeed representing a far larger body than is immediately relevant to her.

I don't know. On the one hand I want to protect everyone's right to be individual and express themselves, but on the other I do think ramifications to reputations should be considered.


I see your point. It may just boil down to whatever the membership will tolerate. But, if it is majority rules, and the majority do / do not want to tolerate 'it', then the final decision should rest with that.

James 09-26-2005 02:28 AM

Its my understanding that the national usuauly strongly suggests that the sorority chapter vote to expell the girl. And that the sheep on the exec board and the sheep in the chapter go along with it.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://www.nutrocker.co.uk/images/60x60/sheep.gif

Girls!

UKDaisy 09-26-2005 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The girl is beautiful and she's in a great sorority. That's all.

-Rudey

I agree. If a girl in my sorority posed I'd be like "he** yea! that's my sorority sister".

KillarneyRose 09-26-2005 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I'm going out on a limb here, but I would assume that most NPC sororities has a "morals clause" in whatever it is that you sign as a member. How that clause is interpreted may vary greatly.

Yes, I think it's a catchall phrase. Kind of like the military's "conduct unbecoming to an officer." It just covers the butts of the powers that be so if someone does something they don't like they can give them the boot.


Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Only if you count DG Queen
Well, whichever DG she pretended to be was really pretty.

AchtungBaby80 09-26-2005 04:24 PM

I'm not sure how I feel about terminating a girl's membership because she posed for a magazine, but I do feel that her affiliation should not be mentioned in the publication. I feel like if I were going to pose for Playboy, for example, I would not want to be identified as a Delta Zeta out of respect for all the other DZ's out there who might be offended by it.

AOIIBrandi 09-26-2005 04:57 PM

I read the article last night. According to it she had already been featured in the magazine's "Girl's of the ACC" last year, so if the sorority has not yet termintated her membership for that then I don't think they would (granted I am not a DG and cannot speak for them). I also did not see mention of DG specifically in this month's article (and I thought I looked for it pretty carefully), but I could have missed it.

dukedg 09-26-2005 06:09 PM

When I was at Duke we had a DG who posed for Playboy ACC Edition. We were told it was up to our chaper whether to take any action (expulsion as one option). We did nothing and no one one the international level seemed to mind. As far as I know, there was no one in our chapter who was offended or even thought of taking any action until our advisers mentioned it was an option.

I was in college at the time though, so maybe there were talks that went on at the higher levels that were never conveyed to us.

Lil' Hannah 09-27-2005 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Only if you count DGQueen.





Okay, I'm going to hell.

:(

Tom Earp 09-27-2005 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by dukedg
When I was at Duke we had a DG who posed for Playboy ACC Edition. We were told it was up to our chaper whether to take any action (expulsion as one option). We did nothing and no one one the international level seemed to mind. As far as I know, there was no one in our chapter who was offended or even thought of taking any action until our advisers mentioned it was an option.

I was in college at the time though, so maybe there were talks that went on at the higher levels that were never conveyed to us.


So, congratulations to some sanity instead of having panty hose in a wad!

Get real people, this is not a gut wrenching problem for a Member showing Her Body.

How many of You wished You had that Body?

This is a shit storm that can make a group look like Hippocrits!


SAD, SAD, sad!

irishpipes 09-27-2005 06:01 PM

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Maybe, Just Maybe, $25,000 will Help Her finish Her Degree and go on to bigger and better things!
Or maybe the $25,000 will help her to GET bigger and better "things". (If you know what I mean...) ;)

OK, now I am going to hell.

By the way, that was a joke. She is very pretty.

GeekyPenguin 09-27-2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, congratulations to some sanity instead of having panty hose in a wad!

Get real people, this is not a gut wrenching problem for a Member showing Her Body.

How many of You wished You had that Body?

This is a shit storm that can make a group look like Hippocrits!


SAD, SAD, sad!

I wish you had her intellect.

UKDaisy 09-27-2005 08:24 PM

ouch

James 09-28-2005 02:27 AM

Maybe Delta Gammas are just generally attractive enough that the National was like . . well these things are bound to happen?

Anyway, I am glad your sorority didn't choose to victimize that girl . . unlike some what some sororities have done. Little hypocrites.

Quote:

Originally posted by dukedg
When I was at Duke we had a DG who posed for Playboy ACC Edition. We were told it was up to our chaper whether to take any action (expulsion as one option). We did nothing and no one one the international level seemed to mind. As far as I know, there was no one in our chapter who was offended or even thought of taking any action until our advisers mentioned it was an option.

I was in college at the time though, so maybe there were talks that went on at the higher levels that were never conveyed to us.


dgdramadawg 09-28-2005 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Maybe Delta Gammas are just generally attractive enough that the National was like . . well these things are bound to happen?
:)

I'm thrilled to know that one of my DG sisters is successful in her modeling career. Plus, I'm thrilled to know that she's hot and thus makes the entire sorority look attractive on the national level. ;) I'd be surprised if anyone from Exec said anything, unless she posed in a thong with her letters on it or something specifically using the letters. The only DG who's gonna complain about this girl is Anne Coulter.

I always find it funny when chapters of any sort fuss about a member choosing to pose nude or do something scandalous. I mean, if an already-famous alum decided to pose nude, I don't think any sorority would revoke her membership... they don't want to lose that famous alum's name recognition.

valkyrie 09-28-2005 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
And that the sheep on the exec board and the sheep in the chapter go along with it.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://www.nutrocker.co.uk/images/60x60/sheep.gif

Girls!

Quote:

Little hypocrites.
Dude, maybe if you stopped the name calling, people would be interested in your opinion.

kddani 09-28-2005 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
If You only Wish!:(



OOPs. I thought You Ment Mine!:rolleyes:

The world would be a very scary place if we all had your intellect.:rolleyes:

Tom Earp 09-28-2005 07:00 PM

I tried to delete that post.

But in Your case, I wont. Why wont you bite a big Pisburg Sausauge and become a real Lawyer instead of a Snarky and run people off of GC?

God, You are---- and scarry person.

Hey, go ride in a COP Car and see what being a leagal really is or do You just do safe and sorry Litigations in Your internship?

You are boring.

Why dont you put Your Snarky Shi- on world wide I am Kewel!

My Intellect, Well Sweet Cakes X-Rated You have not a clue to real world of living. Wait till You get it stuffed where the sun dont shine. Be a semi-lawyer in Internship and let them put you on the gridle if You think You have the Stones. You aint nada. You are going to have to learn to make Your Bones. you are probaly a Pencil Pusher trying to lean Law! Oh, In The Real Damn World, Not Your little College!

kddani 09-28-2005 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
I tried to delete that post.

But in Your case, I wont. Why wont you bite a big Pisburg Sausauge and become a real Lawyer instead of a Snarky and run people off of GC?

God, You are---- and scarry person.

Hey, go ride in a COP Car and see what being a leagal really is or do You just do safe and sorry Litigations in Your internship?

You are boring.

Why dont you put Your Snarky Shi- on world wide I am Kewel!

My Intellect, Well Sweet Cakes X-Rated You have not a clue to real world of living. Wait till You get it stuffed where the sun dont shine. Be a semi-lawyer in Internship and let them put you on the gridle if You think You have the Stones. You aint nada. You are going to have to learn to make Your Bones. you are probaly a Pencil Pusher trying to lean Law! Oh, In The Real Damn World, Not Your little College!


Yawn.

_Q_ 09-28-2005 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
I tried to delete that post.

But in Your case, I wont. Why wont you bite a big Pisburg Sausauge and become a real Lawyer instead of a Snarky and run people off of GC?

God, You are---- and scarry person.

Hey, go ride in a COP Car and see what being a leagal really is or do You just do safe and sorry Litigations in Your internship?

You are boring.

Why dont you put Your Snarky Shi- on world wide I am Kewel!

My Intellect, Well Sweet Cakes X-Rated You have not a clue to real world of living. Wait till You get it stuffed where the sun dont shine. Be a semi-lawyer in Internship and let them put you on the gridle if You think You have the Stones. You aint nada. You are going to have to learn to make Your Bones. you are probaly a Pencil Pusher trying to lean Law! Oh, In The Real Damn World, Not Your little College!

Your stream-of-consciousness writing style reminds me a little of "Finnegan's Wake," if you sort of ignore all the grammar and spelling.

kddani 09-28-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by _Q_
Your stream-of-consciousness writing style reminds me a little of "Finnegan's Wake," if you sort of ignore all the grammar and spelling.
Appropriately enough, Finnegan's Wake is a bar in Pittsburgh. lol

edited to fix typo

GeekyPenguin 09-28-2005 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
I tried to delete that post.

But in Your case, I wont. Why wont you bite a big Pisburg Sausauge and become a real Lawyer instead of a Snarky and run people off of GC?

God, You are---- and scarry person.

Hey, go ride in a COP Car and see what being a leagal really is or do You just do safe and sorry Litigations in Your internship?

You are boring.

Why dont you put Your Snarky Shi- on world wide I am Kewel!

My Intellect, Well Sweet Cakes X-Rated You have not a clue to real world of living. Wait till You get it stuffed where the sun dont shine. Be a semi-lawyer in Internship and let them put you on the gridle if You think You have the Stones. You aint nada. You are going to have to learn to make Your Bones. you are probaly a Pencil Pusher trying to lean Law! Oh, In The Real Damn World, Not Your little College!

DEAR TOM EARP,

TAKE THE LSAT.

GET ADMITTED TO LAW SCHOOL.

UNTIL YOU DO THOSE, STFU ABOUT BEING A LAWYER AND GO RUN YOUR CANCER SHOP.

<3,
GP

And to keep this on topic, I don't see anything wrong with what this girl did. It's not like she was getting sexual with an anchor or something.

dgdramadawg 09-28-2005 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
And to keep this on topic, I don't see anything wrong with what this girl did. It's not like she was getting sexual with an anchor or something.
I was just laughing on the phone with another DG about that... or the idea of her dressed up in a sexy Raggedy Ann outfit!

CarolinaDG 09-28-2005 09:12 PM

USC had a couple of Alpha Chi's who posed in the college edition. They were disaffiliated before, though (not related, I don't think). I saw the picture... and as I recall, they weren't even topless. But this was my freshman year, so I don't remember exactly... Anyway, point being, what if she's not naked? Does that make a difference?

I dunno, I'm the one trying to figure out whether or not I'm actually going to go through with the Miss SC pageant because I'd have to walk across stage in a bikini, so I'm probably one of the more conservative on this topic... Still, I think as long as she's not posing with the letters or something, it's up to the discretion of her chapter.

(PS-DGQueen was someone posing to be a DG... so DG's don't freak out like I did... I was a little personally insulted as well)

James 09-28-2005 10:28 PM

I don't think I called anyone a name except the abstract people that kicked out their sorority sister for posing in playboy.

I am not sure thats "name calling" or insulting in the way Tom Earp and his critics routinely are.

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Dude, maybe if you stopped the name calling, people would be interested in your opinion.

UKDaisy 09-29-2005 12:52 AM

Speaking of James' calling people names. I like it when he calls me Miss Kitty Doo Wop.

Oh wait... we're talking about something else. My bad. ;)


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