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redblackdelta 12-28-2006 04:56 PM

Yeah, I was trying to see how Beyonce got the nomination too. The character is a supporting role and not a lead. There just isn't enough to pull best actress out I think. If anything, I give her props on holding back song wise until the end. They say it's harder to hold back than pretend you have it.

kiml122 12-28-2006 10:07 PM

my mom dragged me to the play back in '82 up in NY, and I fell in love with Effie and her J. Holliday's version of And I am telling you, and I use to play the sone over and over because it was the bomb. I couldn't wait to see the movie because the play was really, really good. the first time I heard J. Hudson's version of the song on the radio, I thought it was really good, but I felt that J. Holliday was still the better version. It wasn't until I saw the movie and saw J. Hudson sing it in the movie that those goose bumps come for her verison. I must admit seeing her sing it in the movie, versus hearing it on the radio was like night and day for me. I mean everyone in the place was clapping when she finished singing in the movie.

I thought the movie was good, yes there were some changes from the play, and the big one was James "Thunder" Early and hwat happened to him, that didn't take place in the play, but I thought the movie was really good. I thought everyone played very good, and I too was not liking Jamie Foxx which means that he played hella-good. I liked at the end when Curtis was looking at Effie and then at Magic, and then back to Effie and then back to Magic....classic.

jitterbug13 12-28-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblackdelta (Post 1375618)
Randy from "Sexual Chocolate"

Soror, we are >>>here<<<. I haven't seen the movie yet, but everytime I see clips of his performace, I think of that.

*singing* I believe the children are our future...:p

MsDJ80 12-28-2006 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jitterbug13 (Post 1375568)
I wanted to see it while I was home in Charleston and wondered why there were no listings for it in the paper. When I went to look up times on Yahoo Movies yesterday that's when I found out they are not showing it in Charleston. But at least they are showing it here in Greenville so I will get to see it without traveling far.

How did Greenville get it over Columbia:confused: It's okay though...we're going to ATL this weekend so I'll be sure to stop by Magic's movie theatre to check it out:D

redblackdelta 12-29-2006 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jitterbug13 (Post 1375910)
Soror, we are >>>here<<<. I haven't seen the movie yet, but everytime I see clips of his performace, I think of that.

*singing* I believe the children are our future...:p

"Sexual Chocolate! Sexual Chocolate!

"Damn, that boy sho can sing!"

Diovanka8 12-29-2006 12:54 AM

The movie in my opinion was blah. Everytime I saw Eddie Murphy perform, I could not take him seriously. He kept reminding me of all his characters in "Coming to America". I was laughing haaard! Jennifer Hudson did a wonderful job. Fabulous! Beyonce has surely come a long way, but her performance lacked personality. Her wardrobe was on point along with her makeup. Jamie Fox was wonderful, I really like him. Noni Rose, she was cute. I like her and I will continue to look out for her in upcoming films. What was Effie's brother name in the movie? He was a cutie and if that was really him singing he did a great job. I'll continue to support him as well.
I felt the storyline was rushed and I lost focus really quick because of it. If possible, I will get the dvd of the original movie.

Whatever happened to the remake of "Sparkle"? Now that was a movie!

chrini 12-29-2006 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diovanka8 (Post 1375960)
Everytime I saw Eddie Murphy perform, I could not take him seriously. He kept reminding me of all his characters in "Coming to America".


I was thinking the same thing. He also reminded me of his Klump characters.

mccoyred 12-29-2006 11:28 AM

My mom and I saw the movie yesterday. It was good but not great.

Eddie - Ditto about the Sexual Chocolate comments! BTW, who was his character supposed to 'be' in real life? I couldn't place him.

Jamie - He plays a snake a little toooo well

Beyonce - She looked good but thats it. Her characted lacked depth. Also, I didn't like that she came off playing the victim and a goody too shoes. I didn't see the play so I am not sure if Sheryl's portrayal came off like that

Jennifer - Girl can sang! She played the heck out of that character. I was kinda mad that she lookes a hot mess in the closing scene.

I will be getting the soundtrack to this!

1browngirl 12-29-2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diovanka8 (Post 1375960)
What was Effie's brother name in the movie? He was a cutie and if that was really him singing he did a great job. I'll continue to support him as well.
I felt the storyline was rushed and I lost focus really quick because of it. If possible, I will get the dvd of the original movie.

Keith Robinson (you might remember him from Half & Half, he was little Dee Dee's boyfriend Neil or from Fat Albert). Anyway, I loved him too, I've been a big fan since seeing him on H&H. It was quite a surprise - but a good one - to see him in the movie holding his own singing with the others.

I agree the storyline did seem a bit rushed. Especially the ending, I wish we could've found out what happened when Curtis realized Magic was his child.

Neosoulchild 12-29-2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91 (Post 1375095)
Oh. my. gawd! YES!

I wish I could rewind back to 1982 when I could have seen this on Broadway. If Jennifer Holiday was anything (probably better or more intense) than Jennifer Hudson's performance, I would need a whole box of Kleenex.

I know this isn't the same thing as seeing it live and in person, but here's Jennifer Holiday's rendition at the 1982 Tony Awards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq4uc9b2s1o


Quote:

Originally Posted by 1browngirl (Post 1376052)
Keith Robinson (you might remember him from Half & Half, he was little Dee Dee's boyfriend Neil or from Fat Albert). Anyway, I loved him too, I've been a big fan since seeing him on H&H. It was quite a surprise - but a good one - to see him in the movie holding his own singing with the others.

I agree the storyline did seem a bit rushed. Especially the ending, I wish we could've found out what happened when Curtis realized Magic was his child.

I knew Ci Ci looked familiar. I just couldn't figure out where I knew him from.

CrimsonTide4 12-29-2006 02:21 PM

Just came from seeing it! FABBBBBBBBULOUS!!!!!!!!!! OMG I just loved it.

Eddie Murphy's character was said to be a hodgepodge of Marvin Gaye (hat scene, the Patience song) and 2 other male singers but the names escape me.

Jennifer Hudson is about to BLOW UP!!!!!!!!!!!:D :cool:

1browngirl 12-29-2006 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neosoulchild (Post 1376115)
I know this isn't the same thing as seeing it live and in person, but here's Jennifer Holiday's rendition at the 1982 Tony Awards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq4uc9b2s1o

WOW! What a performance, I wish I could've seen the original on Broadway.

tld221 12-30-2006 01:33 PM

agreeing with everything above.

saw it last nite. JHud was amazing, Beyonce was dead. and our theatre was a hot mess, hooting and hollering like it was church Sunday, and then when Beyonce did "Listen," she got the pity applause. me and my friends were seriously on some "black folx in the movie theatre" mess, screaming, "dont clap for that!" i dont even like that song, so she definitely wasnt getting props from me!

and yes, i could not take eddie seriously either, we kept singing "party all the time" everytime he came on the screen. jamie did a decent job in his role, especially when he got real Ike on Beyonce's character.

i felt a couple of parallels. that one scene, where he's telling her how her voice has no character and how no one knows her in her voice... man i was like, beyonce you gon have to step your game UP cause JHud is about to get it ON! also, the same way B's character was used to sell the group in the movie is the same way she was used to sell the movie. at the end of the movie, ANYONE couldve played her role.

lastly, i thought the baby story was extraneous and the ending a little too clean, like it all wrapped up nicely. it kinda fell flat and it didnt matter how it ended.

jitterbug13 12-30-2006 02:34 PM

Just finished seeing it. WONDERFUL MOVIE!!!!

B--She was pretty good, but I agree with everyone that her role was less that it was made out to be. I liked when she sang Listen

Jennifer: OMG. That girl tore them songs up, down, around and sideways. :p Besides AIATY, I really liked I Am Changing and One Night Only.

Eddie: ROTFLMAO!!!! Especially with the Miami club scene and the anniversary show. At one point I thought he was going to sing Hot Tub. :p And one more thing: SEXUAL CHOCOLATE!!!! :p

For some reason when I saw Curtis, I kept seeing Jamie with a bad wig.
And Effie's brother was hot!!!! :D

This will be a part of the DVD collection when it comes out. :D

DSTinguished1 12-30-2006 04:34 PM

I absolutely LOVED this movie. Jennifer Hudson was a amazing. Her voice gives me chills. She truly upstage Beyonce. However, Beyonce to' up that last song when she was singing in the booth. Overall the movie was great but the people in the movie theater made it even better. Folks screamed and shouted when Jennifer Hudson saaanged! :D :D

Definitely getting the soundtrack and the movie when it comes out on DVD!

DSTinguished1 12-30-2006 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1browngirl (Post 1376130)
WOW! What a performance, I wish I could've seen the original on Broadway.

I didn't know that Loretta Devine was in the original. She made an appearance in the movie as well. Cool :)

1browngirl 12-30-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTinguished1 (Post 1376543)
I didn't know that Loretta Devine was in the original. She made an appearance in the movie as well. Cool :)

Before seeing that Youtube clip, I didn't know that either. Sheryl Lee Ralph was the original Deena, Loretta was Lorelle, and Jennifer Holliday was Effie. I wonder why the producers didn't include Sheryl and Jennifer, even in some small way.

SKEEphistAKAte 12-30-2006 10:39 PM

Jennifer Hudson's voice gave me goose bumps. I think that Beyonce's solo song was supposed to have the same effect, but it fell short.

Kamryn 12-30-2006 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKEEphistAKAte (Post 1376644)
Jennifer Hudson's voice gave me goose bumps. I think that Beyonce's solo song was supposed to have the same effect, but it fell short.

Me too!!! I agree, and ditto to everything else! Well, just about everything... :)
I loved it!
*singing*
"...round, and around!"
"Jimmy got soul! Jimmy got soul! Jimmy got S-O-U-L, SOOUUULLL!!!" :D
"Lisssteeennnn..."

Does anybody know why they didn't use Jennifer Holiday's song "Givin' Up", from the original soundtrack also sung by Donnie Hathaway? That song is FIERCE! Maybe on the same level as "And I am Telling You."

One more thing...wasn't it interesting to see the comparison of Dreamgirls with Destiny's Child? And LeToya (Effie) making a come back? ;)

Gina1201 12-30-2006 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamryn (Post 1376649)
"Jimmy got soul! Jimmy got soul! Jimmy got S-O-U-L, SOOUUULLL!!!" :D

One more thing...wasn't it interesting to see the comparison of Dreamgirls with Destiny's Child? And LeToya (Effie) making a come back? ;)

I can hear Eddie singing that now!!


Yes, especially since the new girl's name was Michelle.:eek:

redblackdelta 12-31-2006 12:29 AM

question ladies,
does this means that when all the award shows come 'round we'll have to sit through Sexual Chocolate without laughing???

I mean this just might restart his music career (oh lawd).
Can't you just see late night infomercials selling "boogie in your butt" (was that eddie trying to come out then??? ooh, i shouldna said that, but your laughing now, so does it matter that i did?)

BlessedOne04 12-31-2006 12:29 AM

I loved this movie! Cried at J Hud's version of AIATY!! Beyonce was okay but still needs alot of work if she is to be an actress. I can't wait till it comes out on DVD!!

MeezDiscreet 12-31-2006 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblackdelta (Post 1376669)
question ladies,
does this means that when all the award shows come 'round we'll have to sit through Sexual Chocolate without laughing???

I mean this just might restart his music career (oh lawd).
Can't you just see late night infomercials selling "boogie in your butt" (was that eddie trying to come out then??? ooh, i shouldna said that, but your laughing now, so does it matter that i did?)

or "Put your mouth on me" :rolleyes:

BlueReign 12-31-2006 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamryn (Post 1376649)
One more thing...wasn't it interesting to see the comparison of Dreamgirls with Destiny's Child? And LeToya (Effie) making a come back? ;)

When was Dreamgirls ever compared to Destiny's Child?:confused:

I saw the movie with my daughter and since she is a big Beyonce fanatic I think she was a little disappointed. For me, the highlight was seeing Danny Glover, Eddie Murphy and Jamie all on screen together at once. I also think that Jennifer was created just for this role. Couldn't nobody play this but her! :)

It was good that this play/movie has a happy feel good ending because the real life story "Effie" character it is somewhat based upon, ends very tragically. :(

redblackdelta 12-31-2006 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeezDiscreet (Post 1376685)
or "Put your mouth on me" :rolleyes:

oh lawd! u can't make me laugh that hard, i'ma break something!

Kamryn 12-31-2006 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueReign (Post 1376692)
When was Dreamgirls ever compared to Destiny's Child?:confused:

I saw the movie with my daughter and since she is a big Beyonce fanatic I think she was a little disappointed. For me, the highlight was seeing Danny Glover, Eddie Murphy and Jamie all on screen together at once. I also think that Jennifer was created just for this role. Couldn't nobody play this but her! :)

It was good that this play/movie has a happy feel good ending because the real life story "Effie" character it is somewhat based upon, ends very tragically. :(


They weren't compared in the movie. What I mean is both groups have a lot of similarities with their experiences. For example, Beyonce sang lead when the group took off, a member was dropped from the group, then made a comeback (Effie: Letoya), and the Dreamettes experience with the talent show in the beginning of the movie could be compared to DC's experience with Star Search . Those are just a few. But I didn't mean that they were compared in the movie.

I didn't know that this was actually based on a true story. Wow, interesting.

I loved how similar the movie was to the play. They did an AMAZING job with this. I keep watching the making of clips, they actually had someone sketch every scene. Truly amazing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg32-O-AHyE

Both women can sang their faces off!!!

1browngirl 12-31-2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamryn (Post 1376715)

I didn't know that this was actually based on a true story. Wow, interesting.

The original Broadway show was loosely based on the story of the Supremes.

I checked out Wikipedia yesterday and found out some interesting facts on Dreamgirls - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamgirls

DSTCHAOS 12-31-2006 01:33 PM

Saw it last night. Really liked it. Theater was packed at every single showing.

But not because of Beyonce. She had some REALLY cute outfits (especially the black one with the hat) and her body slimmer and excessive makeup were doing her well. But she can't act, I'm REALLY realizing that she can't sing all that well, and I saw her role as art imitating life. Foxx told her that he chose her to sing lead because her voice has no depth or soul--TIS TRUE!! I always thought she was a talented woman for her writing, singing and producing--she still is--but considering there's debate as to whether she's as young as she claims, her skills are average at best.

Oh yeah and I got tired at one point and wanted the movie to end. Around the time Beyonce's character was supposed to be "finding herself." LOL. :rolleyes: Just find J. Hudson for us and let us go home. The folks in the theater clapped numerous times throughout the movie for J. Hudson and even cheered at the end when it said "introducing."

I liked the other Dreamgirl's character, Foxx, and Murphy also.

DSTCHAOS 12-31-2006 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamryn (Post 1376715)
They weren't compared in the movie. What I mean is both groups have a lot of similarities with their experiences. For example, Beyonce sang lead when the group took off, a member was dropped from the group, then made a comeback (Effie: Letoya), and the Dreamettes experience with the talent show in the beginning of the movie could be compared to DC's experience with Star Search . Those are just a few. But I didn't mean that they were compared in the movie.

I didn't know that this was actually based on a true story. Wow, interesting.

I loved how similar the movie was to the play. They did an AMAZING job with this. I keep watching the making of clips, they actually had someone sketch every scene. Truly amazing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg32-O-AHyE


Both women can sang their faces off!!!

And the new member of Dreamgirls was named Michelle.

CrimsonTide4 12-31-2006 01:52 PM

Some reading for those interested
 
Dreamgirl: My Life as a Supreme by Mary Wilson
Dreamgirl & Supreme Faith by Mary Wilson

I have never read either titles but I suspect that I will be adding these to my TO BE READ list.:cool:

CrimsonTide4 12-31-2006 11:05 PM

What type of ISHT is this!?!?!?
 
from Yahoo News:

"Dreamgirls" saw a major surge in business, averaging a whopping $18,192 per screen as Paramount rolled it out slowly with word-of-mouth creating a buzz. It was showing on just 852 screens, compared to 3,768 for "Night at the Museum."

"Dreamgirls," the first musical sensation since "Chicago" in 2002, will expand to about 1,800 screens on Jan. 12.

Kamryn 12-31-2006 11:49 PM

That's crazy!
That explains why we had to leave our CITY to see it in the boondocks!
None of the theatres had it showing in our area.
Then they're expanding to 1,800 on Jan. 12??? That's not even half of "Night at the Museum!"
Hmmm...wow...

Kamryn 12-31-2006 11:53 PM

Thanks for all the info 1browngirl, DSTChaos, and CT4! I really didn't know all of that.

BlueReign 01-01-2007 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamryn (Post 1376875)
Thanks for all the info 1browngirl, DSTChaos, and CT4! I really didn't know all of that.

Like I kept telling my daughter, "this is not all about your beloved Beyonce and Destiny's Child". LOL!

Thanks CT4! I didn't grow up with the Supremes, (cause I'm not that old) but I fell in love with the Mary Wilson's books about her life as a Supreme. If you read the books, you will love Florence Ballard. That was why Jennifer's character was so real.

Kamryn 01-01-2007 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1376870)
from Yahoo News:

"Dreamgirls" saw a major surge in business, averaging a whopping $18,192 per screen as Paramount rolled it out slowly with word-of-mouth creating a buzz. It was showing on just 852 screens, compared to 3,768 for "Night at the Museum."

"Dreamgirls," the first musical sensation since "Chicago" in 2002, will expand to about 1,800 screens on Jan. 12.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueReign (Post 1376888)
Like I kept telling my daughter, "this is not all about your beloved Beyonce and Destiny's Child". LOL!

Thanks CT4! I didn't grow up with the Supremes, (cause I'm not that old) but I fell in love with the Mary Wilson's books about her life as a Supreme. If you read the books, you will love Florence Ballard. That was why Jennifer's character was so real.


LOL! That's why she was disappointed? :) awww...

teena 01-01-2007 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1browngirl (Post 1376550)
Before seeing that Youtube clip, I didn't know that either. Sheryl Lee Ralph was the original Deena, Loretta was Lorelle, and Jennifer Holliday was Effie. I wonder why the producers didn't include Sheryl and Jennifer, even in some small way.

They consulted with Sheryl about different aspects of the movie. I remember Sheryl throwing serious salt because she said that all of the original cast were brown to dark skin and casting Bey was some type of insult because it buys into the whole light skinned black women are prettier that darker skinned black women.

I think they completely disssed JHoliday and didnt include her in on anything. I think I read somewhere recently that she has said as much. I have come to the conclusion that JHoliday must be blacklisted for something she has done or said.

MsDJ80 01-01-2007 01:53 AM

ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS MOVIE!!! I'm going to the store ASAP to get this soundtrack

DSTCHAOS 01-01-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1376870)
from Yahoo News:

"Dreamgirls" saw a major surge in business, averaging a whopping $18,192 per screen as Paramount rolled it out slowly with word-of-mouth creating a buzz. It was showing on just 852 screens, compared to 3,768 for "Night at the Museum."

"Dreamgirls," the first musical sensation since "Chicago" in 2002, will expand to about 1,800 screens on Jan. 12.

They aren't showing Dreamgirls at any of the movie theaters in "black areas" around here.

MexicanMami0286 01-01-2007 04:49 PM

i loved the movie, though i didn't expect to.

and it's also great going to the movie theatre with unwanted commentary for the whole movie. some chic pulled out her cell phone and talked for a good couple of minutes...loudly.

oh and i also enjoyed the "in-movie" sing-along. :p

Wonderful1908 01-01-2007 06:04 PM

Okay I thought the movie was okay. I think that is because I don't like musicals, so I may be bias. :confused:

JHudson did her role though for someone who has never acted she did an awesome job, she deserves to win the Golden Globe and an Oscar.

Beyonce did okay, but I think her character was supposed to have no depth and if that was what the intentions were then she did fine.

I agree with the Eddie Murphy comments and "sexual chocalate" I think I read that on here before I saw the movie so it was already in my head.


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