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starang21 05-02-2005 05:56 PM

i think some people are going to get hemmed up

ladygreek 05-02-2005 05:56 PM

Re: Re: Okey whatever
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp

K.O.T.S, not necessary to carry on like this is it?

Your GLO will help You grow as all of ours have.:) We all think ours is the best, but if We all stand alone, it does get lonesome.

Tom are you referring to first part of K.O.T.S.' post? He was just quoting from Red Cappa Boy's blog. Then he went on to comment about it.

preciousjeni 05-02-2005 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Shortfuse
He probably plays a sport and had to sit out his first year. Technically he should be a junior (credit wise) but for athletic eligiblilty he's a sophomore.
I thought it meant that the person was a member of the team during his/her freshman year but didn't play. Then the person did play during the sophomore year. So, even though the person was on the team during the regular first season, he/she didn't actually play until the next season.

starang21 05-02-2005 10:23 PM

Re: Re: Re: Okey whatever
 
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Originally posted by ladygreek
Cappa Boy's
lol

DC_Zeta1920 05-02-2005 10:46 PM

Wow....just WOW :(

ladygreek 05-02-2005 11:31 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Okey whatever
 
Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
lol
Just following K.O.T.S.' lead. ;)

ladygreek 05-02-2005 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
I thought it meant that the person was a member of the team during his/her freshman year but didn't play. Then the person did play during the sophomore year. So, even though the person was on the team during the regular first season, he/she didn't actually play until the next season.
To be redshirted I think it is more than a person not playing. You can practice with the team, but I don't think you can be on the roster. But I may be wrong.

BlueReign 05-03-2005 03:36 PM

Hilarious!
 
This thing is just too funny. I seriously cannot stop laughing!!

MysticCat 05-03-2005 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
To be redshirted I think it is more than a person not playing. You can practice with the team, but I don't think you can be on the roster. But I may be wrong.
No, you're right. To "redshirt" means to forgo competition in a sport for an entire season. A redshirted player can practice with the team but cannot compete at all. It's a way of extending eligibility, since under general NCAA rules, a student is only eligible for four seasons of competition in any one sport.

By "redshirted sophomore," he could either mean:

1) He was redshirted as a freshman and is now a sophomore in his first season of eligibility (in which case, it's clearer to say "I was a redshirted freshman"), or

2) That he competed his freshman year but for some reason -- injury perhaps, or academic problems -- has chosen to redshirt his sophomore year.

sueali 05-03-2005 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
No, you're right. To "redshirt" means to forgo competition in a sport for an entire season. A redshirted player can practice with the team but cannot compete at all. It's a way of extending eligibility, since under general NCAA rules, a student is only eligible for four seasons of competition in any one sport.

By "redshirted sophomore," he could either mean:

1) He was redshirted as a freshman and is now a sophomore in his first season of eligibility (in which case, it's clearer to say "I was a redshirted freshman"), or

2) That he competed his freshman year but for some reason -- injury perhaps, or academic problems -- has chosen to redshirt his sophomore year.

Or he could have redshirted his freshmen year, played his redshirt freshmen year (sophomore academically) and now is in his redshirt sophomore year (junior academically). Usually people on refer to themselves as "I was a redshirt freshmen" or "I redshirted my first year". I have not heard many people continue to use the redshirt before their year.

MysticCat 05-03-2005 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by sueali
Or he could have redshirted his freshmen year, played his redshirt freshmen year (sophomore academically) and now is in his redshirt sophomore year (junior academically). Usually people on refer to themselves as "I was a redshirt freshmen" or "I redshirted my first year". I have not heard many people continue to use the redshirt before their year.
Very true.

And like you, I haven't usually heard people continue to use "redshirt" before their year -- they just "were redshirted freshmen." His saying "redshirt sophomore" is what made me wonder if what he means is that he competed freshman year but is sitting out of competition his sophomore year.

TRSimon 05-04-2005 05:59 PM

Re: Hilarious!
 
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Originally posted by BlueReign
This thing is just too funny. I seriously cannot stop laughing!!
High Comedy, Indeed. Especially the one with Luda all up in her site. Just what I think of when AKA comes to mind :)

PhDiva 05-07-2005 03:10 PM

I think the most ridiculous thing to all of this is that they posted their pictures too!!! I mean if you want to say something that bold, at least use a screen name that isn't that easy to connect to you, leave out details of the school you are attending and DO NOT POST YOUR PHOTOGRAPH!!!. :eek:

DSTCHAOS 05-07-2005 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
And like you, I haven't usually heard people continue to use "redshirt" before their year -- they just "were redshirted freshmen." His saying "redshirt sophomore" is what made me wonder if what he means is that he competed freshman year but is sitting out of competition his sophomore year.
Every football player I've known from various schools have said "redshirt" sophomore, junior, and senior. That is their way of letting people know that they are 3rd year sophomores, 4th year juniors, or 5th year seniors because they were ineligible to play their freshman year.

keji_2 05-09-2005 04:32 AM

Re: Re: Hilarious!
 
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Originally posted by TRSimon
High Comedy, Indeed. Especially the one with Luda all up in her site. Just what I think of when AKA comes to mind :)
No this is the most ridiculous thing this fool posted this on his site

Monday, May 02, 2005

I can't believe that I did so bad on pledgin' ,but they figure I wuz new, anyhow,so I'ma keep goin' and neva give up.I'm out. Kappa !!! Hut! Peace
LMAO

Zetagymnast 05-14-2005 05:39 PM

Re: Re: Re: Hilarious!
 
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Originally posted by keji_2
No this is the most ridiculous thing this fool posted this on his site

Monday, May 02, 2005

I can't believe that I did so bad on pledgin' ,but they figure I wuz new, anyhow,so I'ma keep goin' and neva give up.I'm out. Kappa !!! Hut! Peace
LMAO

:eek: :rolleyes: :o

AXO Alum 05-16-2005 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by preciousjeni
AKAQueen who is NOT an AKA:
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=AKAQueen

:eek: :eek:

Momma'n'em need to have a coming to Jesus meeting with her. Surely they do NOT know that this is going on. And dang if she didn't post ALL her info for people to check up on her.

:o

blkwebman1919 05-16-2005 06:34 PM

Oh, to be a "fly on the wall" when they run up on a Greek who has seen their site.... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif

starang21 05-16-2005 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by blkwebman1919
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif
that's the first smiley i've ever seen in the cut!!!!


bwahahahaaha!!!!

DC_Zeta1920 05-19-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by blkwebman1919
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_9_137.gif
LMAO!!!

NinjaPoodle 05-19-2005 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
that's the first smiley i've ever seen in the cut!!!!


bwahahahaaha!!!!

That is a good one but I prefer this onehttp://www.handykult.de/plaudersmili...rough/twak.gif

rocketgirl 05-22-2005 01:37 PM

lol this is ridiculous. i can't believe that these people want to be greek and don't understand the first rule...keep ya mouth shut. anyone who is bloggin their desires that early is not someone i would want on my line or in my chapter...

DST4A00 05-26-2005 03:35 PM

Re: What in the hell are they thinking?
 
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Originally posted by Jill1228
What she said!

HELLO these folx need a course in Discretion 001...they are not that advanced to take Discretion 101 yet

I think we will be watching some crash and burn in the next few years...anyone want ringside seats? :p

I got the popcorn!

KDwxgrrl 05-26-2005 06:34 PM

This is vaguely related to the thread and I didn't really feel like starting another one... my sister graduated high school yesterday and I was at her honors assembly on Tuesday. They read all the scholarships that each student got (its a small school, so its do-able). One of the African-American girls got some kind of "Delta Sigma Theta" scholarship - I didn't hear exactly what it was because I wasn't paying that much attention, but I noticed because of the Greek letters. Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman? Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?

Munchkin03 05-26-2005 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman?
Yes. In my relatively small town, 8 of the NPHC groups give out scholarships, most ranging between $500-1,000. I'm sure that larger cities have chapters that give out multiple scholarships, have scholarship cotillions, and give out larger awards. Most are based on financial need more than academic merit, though.

Senusret I 05-26-2005 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This is vaguely related to the thread and I didn't really feel like starting another one... my sister graduated high school yesterday and I was at her honors assembly on Tuesday. They read all the scholarships that each student got (its a small school, so its do-able). One of the African-American girls got some kind of "Delta Sigma Theta" scholarship - I didn't hear exactly what it was because I wasn't paying that much attention, but I noticed because of the Greek letters. Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman? Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?
We (NPHC orgs) give out scholarships all the time to incoming freshmen. The scholarship was most likely from an alumnae chapter with a scholarship program. (I am an Alpha and my chapter has a similar program.)

The scholarships are awarded solely on merit (and need) and have nothing to do with the applicant's interest in or familial connections to our organizations. One of the participants in our Beautillion became a Kappa.

Nobody would really assume that she wants to be in a certain sorority because she won that sorority's scholarship. (Unless she broadcasts herself in that manner.)

ladygreek 05-27-2005 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This is vaguely related to the thread and I didn't really feel like starting another one... my sister graduated high school yesterday and I was at her honors assembly on Tuesday. They read all the scholarships that each student got (its a small school, so its do-able). One of the African-American girls got some kind of "Delta Sigma Theta" scholarship - I didn't hear exactly what it was because I wasn't paying that much attention, but I noticed because of the Greek letters. Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman? Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?
Good question. My chapter has a scholarship program and the funds are given to males and females. Relatives of our members are not eligible. Our applications are given to school counselors who they recruit the applicants. We analyze the applications based on GPA, need, and extra-curricular activities. We have been doing this for over 20 years and I can't even tell if any of the females became Deltas.

EuSchel 05-27-2005 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This is vaguely related to the thread and I didn't really feel like starting another one... my sister graduated high school yesterday and I was at her honors assembly on Tuesday. They read all the scholarships that each student got (its a small school, so its do-able). One of the African-American girls got some kind of "Delta Sigma Theta" scholarship - I didn't hear exactly what it was because I wasn't paying that much attention, but I noticed because of the Greek letters. Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman? Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?
I was one of those girls in HS. I got a scholarship from Delta Sigma Theta and it was basically becasue I was in the Debutante they sponsored, applied and won one of the MANY scholarships that were offered to the participants. I also know that where I live at now the members of Alpha Kappa Alpha just did the interviews for thier scholarship. So, like the members of the D9 have said the receipent of the scholarship does not have to have interest in the sorority just in education. All of the D9 organizations believe in scholarship, so I personally would expect nothing less.

KDwxgrrl 05-27-2005 12:08 PM

Thanks for clearing that up for me! :D

DST4A00 05-27-2005 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This is vaguely related to the thread and I didn't really feel like starting another one... my sister graduated high school yesterday and I was at her honors assembly on Tuesday. They read all the scholarships that each student got (its a small school, so its do-able). One of the African-American girls got some kind of "Delta Sigma Theta" scholarship - I didn't hear exactly what it was because I wasn't paying that much attention, but I noticed because of the Greek letters. Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman? Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?
THe sororities and fraternities of the National Panhellnic Council are public service organizations. Scholarship is but one aspect of the services we do for the community. As stated many of our chapters give scholarships, and many deserving youth benefit from them. Our only goal is to promote education and better lives for the less fortunate.

As far as soliciting membership, I can't even count on all my fingers and my toes how many people I know who recieved scholarships from one org and pledged another. Not to memtion the greeks I know who are still benefiting from another orgs scholarship program, and they got these scholarships AFTER they pledged.

DST4A00 05-27-2005 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
Very true.

And like you, I haven't usually heard people continue to use "redshirt" before their year -- they just "were redshirted freshmen." His saying "redshirt sophomore" is what made me wonder if what he means is that he competed freshman year but is sitting out of competition his sophomore year.

I've never heard of "red shirt" but I assumed it was an attempt to "identify" with the fraternity he's "destined to pledge".

Intense1920 05-28-2005 10:08 AM

I've only heard of "red shirt" in regards to football.

WhiteDaisy128 05-29-2005 10:38 AM

You can redshirt any sport. It allows you to practice with the team for a year, but not compete. Then you have an extra year of eligibility. Like if I was on the track team...and I was good, but freshman year there were a TON of seniors way better than me...I could redshirt my freshman year and not play, but still get the work outs in. Then I could compete my sophomore, junior, senior, and super senior year.

DolphinChicaDDD 05-29-2005 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128
You can redshirt any sport. It allows you to practice with the team for a year, but not compete. Then you have an extra year of eligibility. Like if I was on the track team...and I was good, but freshman year there were a TON of seniors way better than me...I could redshirt my freshman year and not play, but still get the work outs in. Then I could compete my sophomore, junior, senior, and super senior year.
hijack/
you need a medical reason and doctor's note to redshirt-it can be a big process. if you just don't want to compete and not participate in the season, you would still have the extra season of eligibility.
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TSteven 05-29-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
hijack/
you need a medical reason and doctor's note to redshirt-it can be a big process. if you just don't want to compete and not participate in the season, you would still have the extra season of eligibility.
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You do not need a medical reason to be redshirted.

NCAA Redshirt Definition

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The term "redshirt" is used to describe a student-athlete who does not participate in competition in a sport for an entire academic year. If you do not compete in a sport the entire academic year, you have not used a season of competition. For example, if you are a qualifier, and you attend a four-year college your freshman year, and you practice but do not compete against outside competition, you would still have the next four years to play four seasons of competition.

Each student is allowed no more than four seasons of competition per sport. If you were not a qualifier, you may have fewer seasons of competition available to you. You should know that NCAA rules indicate that any competition, regardless of time, during a season counts as one of your seasons of competition in that sport. It does not matter how long you were involved in a particular competition (for example, one play in a football game, one point in a volleyball match); you will be charged with one season of competition.

Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA membership services staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions.
There is also a "medical hardship waiver" which is often referred to as "medical redshirt" by sportswriters and sportscasters.

Definition of a "Medical Redshirt"

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Source: Hokie Huddler 11/13/98 Vol. 16 No 10 Pg. 7

Though often called a "medical redshirt" by sportswriters and sportscasters, the actual term is a "medical hardship waiver". The concept goes like this: Every student-athlete who meets the minimum academic standards coming out of high school gets four season of NCAA Division I Competition eligibility in each sport.

If a student-athlete is injured during a season and cannot return to competition, he or she may qualify for another opportunity to utilize that season of competitive eligibility.

To receive a medical hardship waiver - in any sport - the injury must limit the student-athlete’s participation to no more than 20 percent of the team’s contests (rounded to the next whole number), with all participation occurring in the first half of the season.

Therefore, for a football player, the maximum number of games that he can play in and still receive a medical hardship waiver is three (20 percent of 11 equals 2.2, which is rounded up to 3), and none of his time on the field can occur after the fifth game (the sixth game of an eleven game season is considered in the second half of the season).

In the case of a 12 game regular season (ie. Virginia Tech's 2000 home schedule), none of the player's time on the field can occur after the sixth game. The seventh game of a 12 game season is considered in the second half of the season.
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whittleschmeg 05-29-2005 05:27 PM

TSteven you are correct a member of an athletic team can red shirt there Freshman Sophmore Junior or Senior year. I played soccer in college and alot of girls reshirted there freshman year because they new they weren't going to get alot of playing time and did want to lose a season of eligibility.

Most athletes there sophmore junior or senior redshirt for medical purposes hurting a knee or ankle preventing them from playing. However if a person has participated in more then a certain number of games in the season they will not be eligible to reshirt. Medical also includes mental reasons illnesses sometimes a person can even get a redshirt for family problems an example might be if God forbid someone passed away. If anyone has any questions I know alot about things like this feel free to PM me

alphaalpha 05-29-2005 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This is vaguely related to the thread and I didn't really feel like starting another one... my sister graduated high school yesterday and I was at her honors assembly on Tuesday. They read all the scholarships that each student got (its a small school, so its do-able). One of the African-American girls got some kind of "Delta Sigma Theta" scholarship - I didn't hear exactly what it was because I wasn't paying that much attention, but I noticed because of the Greek letters. Is that common, for BGLOs to give scholarships to incoming freshman? Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?

I know many (not all) PHC Sororities that give out scholarships to non-members. I have found in my scholarship search a few sororities that have member and non-member scholarships. Just thought that i would add that to the topic.

TSteven 05-29-2005 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by alphaalpha
I know many (not all) PHC Sororities that give out scholarships to non-members. I have found in my scholarship search a few sororities that have member and non-member scholarships. Just thought that i would add that to the topic.
Ditto with IFC chapters.

HederaNaturale 05-29-2005 10:36 PM

Many chapters, grad and undergrad, award scholarships to nonmembers, especially to graduating HS seniors. A lot of times it has nothing to do with BGLO membership in the family or a taking of interest in the recipients as far as future membership, it's simply a to further the education of a rewarding student.

I'm sure some high school students take it to mean that this gives them some brownie points later, but it really doesn't do zip. Common sense should tell you that especially if you received a scholarship from a sorority along with 5 other girls and 3 other guys... but I guess the guys can put that down on their app. if they try to go Omega? :rolleyes:

When I was a senior, I was a DST debutante, but that didn't have a thing to do with anything once the cotillion was over... it was a matter of who in my city was having a cotillion. :cool:

DSTCHAOS 05-30-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
Would that imply their interest in the girl, so that she might say to someone "well I'm going to be a DST in college"? Or might it just be because her mom/sister/grandma was a DST?
None of the above, although some people try to make it about all of the above.

My brother got a fraternity-sponsored scholarship about 10 years ago and 1) the fraternity didn't interact with him enough to have an "interest"; 2) he has never had any interest in Greek Life; and 3) we have no members of that fraternity in my family.


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