HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Re: any "nice" conservatives out there?
 

So you're a liberal and you think your school's conservative minority is unreceptive to your liberal majority?

So, I guess, since I am A Conservative Liberal or is it a Liberal Conservative or how ever You or anyone else want to Pengiun whole me, I am supposed to conform to a defenition that is proposed by someone?

By Some One, I assume that You know that I am talking about Some Academian?:rolleyes:

When I vote some damn Patry Lines because someone says I have to, I change like I did Years ago. I can do it again on what Party I am registered to. That sucks by the way.

I and many Voters do have a Mind about how they want to vote for the People who project the best Approach and Plan.:)

Amazing how many recalls are becoming a Major thing from the Old Line Blood Sucking Political who have been around for every!

Oh, Does Tom Delay ring a bell?:eek:

What a Friggen Scuz Ball. Good Old Boy Polotics Keep the Crap in Office.:mad:

Now why can't I think of something this intelligent to say when asked by my fellow parishioners about my "disagreeable" beliefs?

It's not copyrighted. Feel free to use it. :D

Thank you for your kind words to those who made positive comments. I led a very sheltered life in a very sheltered community when I was growing up. Then I worked in mental health for 13 years and saw so many horrible things that other people go through. Having seen so many different individuals' circumstances, it just widened my perspective a lot.

Re: any "nice" conservatives out there?
 

Alan Alda's character on The West Wing, but even he's a figment of our imaginations.

I might be considered a mean conservative to someone who disagrees with me. I am a "Jesus Freak", small business owner, college graduate, republican, who is farther right then Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, I own a gun and I would use it in the case of physical harm or hunting (if the time came that it were necessary).

I own a leather coat and wonder if the day would come that a liberal tree hugger ever threw red paint on me (and they better be able to run faster then me in their canvase sneakers. {even though I should turn the other cheek}) I believe in a right and a wrong and my beliefs are based on the infallible Word of God.

I do not judge people but I do judge actions. I am pro-life, anti-gay marrage, pro-smaller government, and I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians. (also, before anyone says anything I do not think that anyone who is gay or has had an abortion is going to hell that is between them and God)

Oh and if the republican party ever moved farther to the left then it already has I will find another party that matches my beliefs and support it to the best of my ability. Because, I try to put people in power that match my beliefs politically and personally.

However, If you were to meet me you might like me, cause I am a basically nice person who stands firm on her beliefs, and at least you should respect that.

just my 2 cents (< i usually hate when people spill their guts then put that at the end of their post but it seemed to fit this time)

I don't know, KR - don't you remember the night we spent kicking puppies? ;)

And lets not forget that most "liberals" are, as the old saying goes, macro-liberals and micro-fascists.

Tolerance is lacking straight across the political spectrum. Take people who call themselves "pro-choice" and advocate "tolerance." How should children be educated? In a government owned, command-and-control, structure where values are dictated. Fascist and hypocritical.

I'm sorry PhiPsiRuss, I don't understand your argument. Could you elaborate a little? Thanks.

p.s. ADPi Conniebama, I love how you're a "Jesus Freak" with a gun. So ironic, yet so hillarious...

99% of conservative and liberals don't know a single thing about politics. They're all talk...often stupid as well.

I figure the liberal morons won't ever matter and the conservative morons will vote for what I want at the end of the day.

-Rudey

Let me break it down to you like this
1) The title and premise of this thread is inherently hypocritical
2) Political leanings are no indication of intolerance or incivility, as both exists across the spectrum. This is evidenced by the reality that...
3) The overwhelming majority of American liberals really aren't liberal, and many of them are quite fascist. So pointing out intolerant conservatives (or anything) usually comes from an argument with no moral authority.

PhiPsiRuss, please give me specifics. I'm not one to accept random statements without reasons for them.

1)How is a thread that points out one instance of intolerance, and asks others' opinions on it, hypocritical? If you mean that I, myself, am intolerant of certain views, I think I already made myself clear that that is not the point I wanted to make and apologize if that is what you got from the initial post.

2)Unless you somehow misconstrued my statements, which it does seem like it, I never stated at any point throughtout this thread that I believed political leanings are an indication of intolerance or incivility. In fact, I am an advocate of diversity across different political beliefs and affiliations. I do believe, however, that some can show their intolerance in the way they react to others' political beliefs. i.e. Putting down the person, not the idea/belief

3)I do understand the lines have blurred within the political spectrum, which I believe makes things so much more interesting. There rarely exists any pure liberals or pure conservatives. I, myself, share beliefs with both parties on certain issues. However, to call liberals fascist is a bit of an overstatement that I believe is a little absurd --- unless, of course, you can show me that liberals are dictatorial in nature. Then you have truly disproved me and I shall bow down to your wrath. ;)

Yes you are so right hoosier.

1 - Do you know who Senator Harry Reid is? I would call that some pro-life leadership.
2 - I was unaware I did that. It's a good thing I have a smart conservative man like you to not only tell me how to think, but what I think.
3 - How is Al Franken anything less than Limbaugh?
4 - Um, where did you get this quote from?
5 - The media is biased against anything that isn't the media.

Would you like me to send you some of my tax refund so you can buy a clue?

Glad to know I wasn't the only one who saw how ironic that was.

Oh my goodness, I SOOO Love you. :D

Did you read this sentence that you wrote?

You just admitted that you cited "one instance of intolerance." One. That's all. Just one. What's the title of this thread? "any 'nice' conservatives out there?" The title of this thread implies a scope way beyond "one instance of intolerance."

As far as your statement that "I'm not one to accept random statements without reasons for them," that's exactly what you did when you used a sampling of "one instance of intolerance" to make broad, sweeping generalizations.This is very simple if you know what Liberalism really is. The definition of it got corrupted in America early in the 20th century. Classical liberals are never fascist. Modern day American "liberals" often are. Do a search in this forum on liberals, and you'll see what I, and others have said.

Lots of people (like me) are pro-choice and want as little government as possible...to me, the two naturally go together. If you're trying to make the gov't smaller you don't need to stuff a bunch of rules about reproductive rights (or lack of same) in it.

I agree with you on the laughable defnition of the word "tolerance"...but I don't think the abortion debate goes with it.

Its not ironic that I own a gun and am a Christian. Because I am a Christian am I suppose to allow my self to be robbed, or raped, NO!! Not with out a fight anyway.

LUKE 22 (RSV)
35 And he said to them, "When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" They said, "Nothing." 36 He said to them, "But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me,

Granted I am taking that verse a little out of context but not out of its meaning. If someone takes my cloak I am suppose to give him my shoes too but RAPE AND MURDER ARE DIFFERENT.

I knew someone would say something about the whole "own a gun thing" Don't forget I am in Alabama we get one issued at birth. (Just Kidding, I don't want to make any southern anti NRA libs getting mad at me for that JOKE)

NO.

Curious as to how you "know" this? Also curious if you happen to "know" what the powerball number will be on Wednesday.

You guys Jesus and I just had a little meeting (he brought the Krispy Kreme, I brought the wine for a change) and he said that our founders really weren't too into the religion, particularly that one Ben Franklin dude.

I go to school with a lot of nice conservatives...and a lot of really big mean doodieheaded ones.

Ah yes, here's the entire point of our nation, a denial of the integration of religion into the state or its practices (aka "rejection of the Anglican church").

Also, next time just bring the water, and JC will do the rest.

Hey, isn't that whole "turning the other cheek" thing in the Bible too? I mean, I could be wrong since I'm a non-Christian "lib" but I really thought it was.

Yes it is, only it says if someone strikes you on one, to offer them the other, and if someone requires that you go one mile with them to go two. It goes on to say that if someone takes your cloak do not withold your shirt. I wouldn't take this to mean "If someone wants to rape or kill you let them rather than defend yourself." You get into a lot of specifics and subtleties when you look at this with honest study, rather than just saying "turning the other cheek".
Are you asking honestly or are you being facetious?

I'm really being facetious because (1) you can find a Bible verse to use for whatever point you're trying to make and (2) I kind of like playing with the angry conservatives.

[small hijack]
According to my self defense professor, a rapist would have already knocked you down and tried to do whatever he pleases by the time you would have dug thru your purse and found your loaded gun and aimed it your rapist's head. This is why it's advised to not carry mace and other "weapons" because you wouldn't have time to search, aim, and fire.

Unless your gun is glued to your hand, a swift kick in any sensitive area will give you more of a chance of escaping.

That ends your friendly PSA from a resident Catholic liberal.

:D

[/hijack]

Okay, the logic here just went over my head. The U.S. is clearly a Christian nation because our founders chose NOT to have an official religion? What?

Not to mention that, if you're taken by surprise, you can easily be overpowered and any weapon you're carrying can be used against you. What you think is an advantage is probably more likely to become a disadvantage . . .

Hahaha, so funny...and so true!

But what you're forgetting is that here in the South you shoot the perp through your front door as they're standing on your doorstep -- THEN you drag them inside.

And shoot them again. ;)

ETA:

S&S, I'm w/ you on this one.

I'd like to think that I'm a "nice" conservative - but then again I'm a Canadian conservative (emphasis on the small 'c').

I am a Very nice conservative...when I don't have to be around a bunch of liberals!!HAHAHA

Seriously though, I have certin views and certin beliefs and they just so happen to fall on the conservative side. I am pro-life but I have friends that have had abortions and I do not judge them, that is between them and God.

Also I do not judge gay relationships, again that is between them and God. I think that if you are lucky enough to find love and love someone while you are alive that is a gift..just my opinion.

I believe in the right to free speach and the right to worship in my church without being imprisoned, I also believe in the right to free assembly, and the right to bear arms although I do not own a gun.

I ultimitly believe that we should have choices. I don't believe that laws should be passed to ensure that people who ride motorcycles wear helmets. If some dumb idiot wants to go 100 MPH and bash his brains all over the road or a tree s/he should have that right. Why should s/he wear a helmet when they don't want to only to ride again and this time not only injure themselves but also injure or kill someone?? I am not being mean this is just my opinion.

I also don't think that I should have to keep paying for illegal immagrants to get healthcare or unwed moms to stay on welfare and keep making babies but come every pay the government keeps taking money out for theses types of programs and more while people who do truly need some form of assistance are routinely denied, just look at some of our Vets.

And unfortunatly people are subjected to religious beliefs against their own and they can not do anything about it. They can not even have a counter message giving praise and worship to God. Forgive me if I get somethings confused but as I understand it in Hamtramic MI (which used to be very much populated by Polish Catholics and I believe still is to some extent) there is now a Mosk or some type of structure that at certin times during the day a recording will go off giving praise and thanks to Allah. Now, please tell me how this is fair. Like I said they can not have any type of counter message and yet they are expected to be tolerant and yet others do not have to be tolerant to them or their beliefs??

Sorry if I am rambeling and if I have offended anyone, these are just my beliefs and how I feel and if ADPI Conniebama runs for president I will be on her campaign trail!!
:)

Just so you know, it's American companies that constantly recruit them and want to bring them here. I doubt they would come if they weren't hired to begin with.

Also, what you fail to mention is the only subsidy that's keeping social security afloat right now - the subsidization of billions of dollars anually to our government by illegal workers that cannot lay claim to those funds taken out of their paychecks.

-Rudey
--I'm just saying is all.

Nope not running for any elected office, but will support those who most closely represent me.

Also I find it interesting that I have been verbally attacked and all I did was state my opinion (or what I consider to be fact) the question should be are their any nice liberals out there.

And to clear up some points I am not angry - I choose not to get angry at libs, that would be like getting angry at a baby for crying when it wets it diapers - not worth the effort.

Also I dont have to "hunt around my purse" to find my gun. I carry it in my hand as I walk by myself to open up my restaurant. That gives me the advantage, and I am aware of my surroundings when I am alone in my restaurant (when I am counting money my gun is right there next to me). I am not saying that I could not be taken by surprise but I will try to stay prepared and not "bring a knife to a gun fight."

I am sure a lib is going to "cut and paste" a section of anything I type to attempt to spin it in their direction but yall should leave it to the professionals, i.e. the liberal media. I mean the media is on your side let them spin things.

Have a wonderful day. < I mean that life is too short to worry about J-Lo wearing a fur.

I asked you a question. I guess you can't answer it then even though it's a perfectly valid question that wasn't attacking you

I'm a conservative - I'm not attacking you, but I am pointing out that you're using some flawed logic. Perhaps your assertion as fact of something that's not really supported historically contributes to the attitudes exhibited in the original post - care to comment?

I saw a question mark after a statement. However, if you are asking me how I know we have freedom of religion, because we are a Christian Nation . . . my knowledge comes from the realization that (just for one example) all of the Muslim nations do not have freedom of religion - if you are a jew or a christian you better watch out in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

I mean God was the first to come up with "freedom of religion" when he gave us free will.

Also Christianity in itself doesn't aim to "force" anyone to become Christian only to give them the information and hope they take it from there.

Kddani, I wasnt trying to ignore you I really didnt think that was a question. It seemed like a mean response to my post.

I am having fun keeping up with my religion and politics on this thread. And I believe I have stayed "nice" the whole time.

There are plenty of us non-christians who don't care to have the information, thanks.

Your Welcome.

I guess I'll just never understand why people can't believe what they want to believe without trying to push their beliefs on people who don't agree with them. But I guess that's just me.

ADqtPiMel - a nice liberal :)

Well, first off, please direct me to an official document that says we are a "Christian Nation". Just because the Constitution and Declaration of Indepence mention God does not mean we are a Christian nation.

Comparing us to Saudi Arabia is sort of a stretch.

The fact is that you don't know. None of us know. No one's psychic, no one can say what might of been.


--I'm a Christian- Catholic. I just don't like people making absolute statements that they have no basis to make.