As and ex cop and friend tells me so many times, just kill them and let God Sort Them Out!

He has no sense of humor! Or Not!;)

How you gonna educate someone that isnt in a fraternity, I don't think there is any real way to express what it actually means to be greek to someone thats not. This kid stole from me, and even if it wasn't letters I probobly would of done something to him, Im normally a really easy going person but one thing that does put me over the edge are theives. Also when I said it was a set of letters, It was a hoody of mine that I got the day I got in, it has my pledge name on the back of it. Im not gonna waste my time trying to explain to some loser who doesnt even go to college the meaning of being greek and why it is so bad to wear my hoody. What would you really do if you saw someone wearing your hoody with your name on the back of it?

Bottom line is that it doesn't give you the right to physically harm someone!

If you're so concerned with the value and meaning of your letters, maybe you should think about how to apply the principles and values of your fraternity to your life. I don't know of any group who's principles and values would justify causing physical harm to someone else. I'm pretty sure that's directly contrary

When I met my husand, he had magnets on his dorm fridge from every sorority house on campus. He was so proud of that:rolleyes:

This year a guy on the row started mooning people. I thought it was the funniest thing ever. He would just take off running from his house-drop his pants in front of another house-and run back home. The deans had a fit and he got into so much trouble. I just thought it was funny:p

Tradition!
 

This thread makes me laugh! It brings back lots of memories of my freshman year with my pledge class! On our campus, if your letters are out ANYWHERE :D they are fair game to get stolen. Normally they are returned after the guys cook for us or we have a function with them just hanging out at the house. The pledges at one house on campus are required to have their fraternity's letters inside the house no later than 5pm on a few days during the week.....that means that after 5 they are just waiting for someone to take them!

Since at my school we don't have sorority houses, we carry the "stolen" letters back to our suite, which is in the middle of campus and put them in the windows that face our library. Everyone walks by it on the way to class and sees whose letters which sorority has.

As far as the guys playing pranks on us, their latest episode was Homecoming when they took every sorority's letters from in front of our suites (we were trying to promote for homecoming tailgating and our events planned for the day) and put them on top of their house! :p It was funny to drive by their house on campus during the week and seeing all the sorority letters up there!

But, all this is done in a good nature, everything is returned, and no one has ever got upset about it. It's never got out of control, mainly because everyone knows that it's a tradition and it is all fun and games! Plus, it makes a lot of memories! :)

OTW, so true or True That, I know of several Heads of Greek Orgs that persue G C let alone many of Nat. Officers. I say Yeah, find out what the real world is all about with Greeks!:)

We may The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, it is all laid out here to see what is up!


Greeklove, while what you say is true, there have been a lot of posts where things have happened on fun events that have never had problems, there is always THAT ONE TIME that turns it into a Risk Management Nightmare.:(

We all want fun, but then again SH*T happens and We all catch 10 kinds of Hell over it!:o

Oh yes, the memories that flood back over me are overwhelming and the Guys and Gals that I remember from the good old days that we had will always be cherished.

Frat brother tries to break into sorority
 

Frat brother tries to break into sorority
January 13, 2007

A University of Georgia student was caught early Friday morning trying to climb into the window of a sorority house, according to police.

A security guard at the Delta Gamma house on South Milledge Avenue called police after spotting a man trying to break into a back window of the Chi Omega house next door. He provided a description to police, who found a man matching that description hiding in bushes on Rocksprings Street, according to a police report.

The man, David Thomas Shaw, 20, of South Milledge Avenue, was arrested and charged with loitering and prowling and underage possession of alcohol. He told police he is a member of the Beta Theta Pi fraternity.


Published in the Athens Banner-Herald on 011307

Ding ding ding. Winner winner, chicken dinner. I love a good prank, and it's always kind of cool to get your stuff back. I hate it when pranksters with no class give everybody a bad name. Keep it until they notice and get confused, and then return the stuff. Otherwise, don't steal (or "borrow") at all.

I like this thread. Here's a story that is perhaps unique.

Some twenty years ago our charter was stolen from my chapter at Florida Tech. No one had any idea who had taken it, but it was returned about three days later with a note written on the back. Nope, it wasn't another fraternity - or even a sorority.

It had been "borrowed" by our very own alumni. Seems they were dissatisfied with the way the chapter was being run at the time.

Now, I'm not suggesting we had a boring campus or anything, but it sure is a sad state of affairs when fraternities have to steal FROM THEMSELVES in order to get a rise out of somebody! Haha.

Personally I don't mind a prank, but when it goes into the realm of vandalism, it really frosts my cookies if you catch my drift. Last fall, we had our brand new composite stolen, painted all over with acrylic paint so thick that you couldn't tell what was underneath it, and returned to us. Our chapter president thought it was one of our sister's abstract art projects. We also had about 7 or 8 of our older composites stolen that we still haven't gotten back. So... in conclusion, don't be mean.

Me and one of my roommates have a little stealing wore with 2 guys from another fraternity. We always get the stuff back though.. it's a fun game. I think it's okay to do this stuff if it's done in good fun and nothing gets damaged.

We had something similar happen to my chapter. My sophomore or junior year, one of our composites was taken off the wall during a party. The next time we saw it, it was on the wall of another house, with many of the members' photos "doodled" on or cut out. Turns out it wasn't even a fraternity that took it...it was members of the baseball team! Apparently they thought we'd find the humor in it, but we were PISSED...it was one of our first composites (we were a young chapter) and anyone who's greek knows how expensive they are. Not to mention that the vandalized composite was displayed for hundreds of other students to see whenever they were in the house. We got it back, but what were we supposed to do with it?

i attend a school that barely has any greek life- there's just my sorority and the national service co-ed frat. it is a commuter school so there are not many people interested in pledging. anyway, i've found that the frat has gone so far as to rip down our rush posters (in an attempt to stop any interests from coming to us)- they have admitted this to us on many occassions but we have not stooped to their level yet. is there anyway to deal with this without having a contest to see which org can take down the most posters? will reporting them to national do anything?

Possibly challenging them to another type of competition to divert their energy.
Reporting them to the school may be a better option than to their HQ though.

thanks for the advice but our school does not technically allow sorors so if we report them we're kinda shooting ourselves in the foot. my school doesn't care too much if we put up posters because we don't cause much of a disturbance and because the campus is so big.

Gotcha, well, are there any cross-members? Have you guys tried talking to each other? Are they allowed on campus (because they're service or co-ed)?

there are alot of them on campus actually. we have tried talking with them and i guess we came off a bit peeved when we found out that they were the ones taking down the posters. they are allowed on campus because they're not considered a "real frat"- they're known for service even though they wear letters. this problem sorta seems unsolvable until a panhellenic group can be formed- but what's the point of a group with 2 orgs? we have already tried setting up rules that both orgs would go by- i.e. no taking down posters, no bad-mouthing the other org to potential interests... but they don't seem to work

I am not really sure what you were getting at but, if there is anew Organization that is trying to get on campus with a Major GLO, why stir up problems?

One never knows if and when they may get affiliated and grow to become a bigger GLO on campus.

OOPs some look like fools and are maybe soon gone and forgoten.

Are you a national or local organization?

I guess you guys are competing for the same girls so they're getting huffy. If the school is letting you guys advertise on campus they may have rules about the removal of posters from school property. You can also look into other methods of advertisement such as internet, banners, and wearing your letters often. While Greek unity is a great goal, everybody has to be willing to play nice.

A panhellenic isn't common with a service GLO and social GLOS, but it can be done. See about getting sororities and fraternities allowed on your campus, that will give you more rights.

we're a regional sorority. thanks for the advice, im definitely gonna look into seeing if the school has become more open with greek life and if they're not, it'll just be a problem to deal with.

Yeah, they could at least return the stuff they took. I remember years ago some Tri-Sigs allegedly stole a horseshoe and some composites from our house. I stopped some drunken ADPis from taking an Apollo statue out of our chapter room. And Mr. Earp's boys took a letter off of our house. It just gets out of control.

Although I guess we weren't blameless, after all we did move the sign in front of the ASA house, but they at least got it back...

The Theta Chis stole our kitchen clock. WTF???

One of our sister's ex boyfriends stole the letter plaque we had on our front porch and did NOT give it back, which was very uncool. :mad:

Jon, please make sure you post that is was not my Chapter!

I told my guys many times do not stoop that low.

Yes, it can get out of control like having raw eggs thrown against a new house of one Fraternity from another.


Pay Backs are hell! Sad as it gets?

It was not Tom's chapter. Anyways, that was what ten years ago. Besides, I swiped some stuff from Tom's house. Just kidding.

Thanks LOL, but as I remember, neither of our Chapters are still there and if they cannot act properly, then they should be removed.

Personally, I think a prank like this has to follow three rules in order to be cool:
1. It has to be returned in a few days, certainly no more than a week.
2. It has to be returned in the same condition it was taken in.
3. It can't be anything ritual.

Some girls from our chapter stole a lawn gnome from one of the fraternities once. I think it belonged to the Delts. We took about a million pictures with it during recruitment, including one where it was sitting in front of the Sigma Chi house. It was returned in one piece; I think the Delts even got copies of the pictures.

Garbage like permanently stealing items or ruining them is crime, not a prank and IMHO should be prosecuted.

Bwahahaha, you should've made them a photo album titled "The Roaming Gnome" to pay homage to those travelocity commercials. ;)

We sold the old chapter house and moved out two year ago-- the week of moving several items appeared on the front porch with notes saying "we stole this years ago- thought you might want it back now" We even had a composite from the 80s reappear with many different sets of fraternity letters on the back!

I can't remember if it Kappa Sig or ATO (more likely KS) that stole our letters with where bolted on to the wall in our courtyard. We didn't notice for a long time but eventually got them back.

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One time one of my sisters was visiting her boyfriend and she found some items that had been missing for a while. A composite and a wooden carving of our crest that some alum gave the chapter. The only thing that was really strange, her boyfriends goes to a different school in a different state (well it's only like an hour away).

We were joking that we were gonna keep it until our initiation so that it could attend initiation with us...

one time, my house stole a big stone lion bench from ADPi, we left a ransom note written in our colors with a little rubber duckie on top of it. a few days pass by and no retaliation. we were starting to feel a little guilty. however, ADPi's philanthropy was that week and when they sent there coaches over, we showed them their bench and it was absoultely hilarious to see their faces. come time of the philanthropy we show up with the bench and set it up infront of the judges with the biggest shit-eating grins on our faces.

Back in the day - when this wasn't considered hazing or considered a risk management issue - it wasn't unusual for a fraternity's pledge class to "borrow" a sorority's composite and bring it back to the fraternity house. Usually with the help (consent) of either the sorority's president, the sorority's social chair or the sorority's pledge trainer (new member educator). I recall one time when a sorority's House Mother helped. That was classic!

Basically, these were more or less supervised pranks. A "ransom note" with clues would be left usually for the sorority's pledge class. It was up to them to figure out which fraternity took it. The idea being that once the sorority's pledge class figured out which fraternity took the composite, the pledges would come to the fraternity's house with the "ransom" which was usually something like having to serenade the fraternity. The fraternity would then host the sorority at an informal mixer (exchange). This is why planning ahead with the sorority social chair helped. And if the pledge class was caught, then the pledges normally had to serenade the sorority. And to "make up for their mischief", they were instructed to invite the sorority over a mixer. All in all, a kind of "planned spontaneity".

a few years ago, I hear our guys used to be great at pranking the girls with stuff like this...I have heard stories about a few guys taking a composite from ZTA and then when they went to return it, one guy returned it while 2 more pulled a truck up to their drive way and took their big letters (they were returned) and when we used to be super close with DZ A few guys "went shopping", like, rang the doorbell and when the girls answered walked into their house with a shopping cart, filled it up in their chapter room and left...and when I was a pledge, we came back from our pledge retreat and DZ had come into our house (the doors didn't lock...oh yeah, classy house eh?) and took our Delta and Zeta class letters and as soon as the guys saw this, within 5 mins (cuz they lived right around the corner from us) the letters were taken off the front of the DZ house and put in the class letters place till we got the class letter back. It doesn't really happen anymore in our greek community...except for when ADPi sends their seniors on a raid of the row every spring, but thats just plain comedy! I'd say if its all in fun and games keep it all in fun and games B&E is not cool and you NEVER fuck with a charter...

I think that pranks are apart of college and greek life... pranks meant in fun, not out to hurt person or property. BUT there is a time and place and for it to be a prank the other party must get the items back.

I know that in college my roommates and I stole a stuff animal from a sister. The french movie with the roaming gnome was big at this time. So we took the animal to various spots and took pictures. We had the animal sitting in trees and falling out another sorority's window. We sent the pictures to her for weeks without her knowing who was sending her the pictures. She hated it at first but then started to love getting the pictures... it was FUN. But we didn't hold onto the item for months and years. THAT IS A PRANK.

What isn't a prank, is stealing an item and not letting the group have the item back within a desent period of time (a few weeks, not years or months). Or giving them "clues" to figure it out and get it back eventually.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE'S FLAG or COMPOSITE PICTURES??????????????? That is just stupid and petty and pointless.