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Rudey 09-11-2004 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
The Republican President with a Republican Congress.. not the President alone.

Failing to address health care issues? yes. Proposing and passing a far less than adequate Medicare prescription coverage plan? yes. State taxes going up due to cuts in federal allotments to the states? yes. Lack of funds for road improvements? yes. The insurance increases due to stock market problems and 9/11, not as directly. Failure to make affordable child care available? yes.

Whether the president was directly responsible wasn't the question though. The question was whether I'm better off than I was four years ago, and the answer is no. Another question to add to it would be.. is the president going to make it better over the next four years or will you feel a continual downward spiral? With the national debt increasing as it is, I don't see how it's going to get better. We're going to get to a point where all the money goes to paying interest on the debt and there is no money for anything else. From what I see in my day to day life, society in general is taking a nose dive and nobody is doing anything about it. We're so worried about what other countries are up to that our own needs are being ignored.

Dee

No, no and no on everything.

Geez lady even the part about the debt is wrong. You don't just pay interest. That's not how it works. Bonds have a par amount which is pure principal. Every year principal is paid off on the bonds and usually there is interest that is paid off on a semiannual basis.

I wish Democrats would read just a little bit or at least stop making such audacious claims.

-Rudey

honeychile 09-11-2004 11:54 AM

Just answering the original question:

I make $5,299 more a year than I did four years ago, my health care benefits have improved, and my perks have esculated amazingly.

I can also say that our company has employed 300+ more people in the past four years, both full and part time, none of whom have manbreasts (to my knowledge).

The question really depends on what aspect of the working world you're in.

The1calledTKE 09-11-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I wish Democrats would read just a little bit or at least stop making such audacious claims.

-Rudey

She can believe what she want. She isn't forcing you to believe what she believes. And Republicans on here make silly claims but you say nothing then, because it benifits the person you want elected.

Rudey 09-11-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
She can believe what she want. She isn't forcing you to believe what she believes. And Republicans on here make silly claims but you say nothing then, because it benifits the person you want elected.
Opinions and Facts are different. You can have the opinion that red is prettier than blue. You can't have an opinion that pigs fly.

Republicans make silly claims? Truthfully I see little of it.

-Rudey
--You used to post quite a few political anti-Bush threads and posts...you went soft on us Brandon :)

AGDee 09-11-2004 12:35 PM

Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding
The monthly Interest Expense represents the interest expense on the Debt Outstanding as of each month end. The interest expense on the Debt includes interest for Treasury notes and bonds; foreign and domestic series certificates of indebtedness, notes and bonds; Savings Bonds; as well as Government Account Series (GAS), State and Local Government series (SLGs), and other special purpose securities. Amortized discount or premium on bills, notes and bonds is also included in interest expense.

The fiscal year Interest Expense represents the total interest expense on the Debt Outstanding for a given fiscal year. This includes the months of October through September.

Interest Expense
FISCAL Year 2004
August $ 18,988,722,254.18
July $ 15,097,639,601.03
June 84,468,634,709.08
May 20,432,938,610.90
April 12,755,485,706.79
March 14,096,687,261.36
February 15,150,706,352.06
January 13,004,064,259.60
December 82,435,960,974.56
November 19,292,044,501.20
October 13,311,682,915.94
----------------------
FISCAL Year Total $ 309,034,567,146.78



From Treasury Direct, Bureau of Public Debt

The1calledTKE 09-11-2004 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
-Rudey
--You used to post quite a few political anti-Bush threads and posts...you went soft on us Brandon :)

I still do. You just usually go after a couple certain people that post stuff even I don't even believe is true.

Rudey 09-11-2004 12:44 PM

I'm really quite sorry that you can't understand a simple concept like this. Again, the government pays off a set principal and interest amount yearly. This is different on variable rate bonds and notes or if a swap is used.

Stick to something like needlepoint because you're not making sense here.

-Rudey


Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding
The monthly Interest Expense represents the interest expense on the Debt Outstanding as of each month end. The interest expense on the Debt includes interest for Treasury notes and bonds; foreign and domestic series certificates of indebtedness, notes and bonds; Savings Bonds; as well as Government Account Series (GAS), State and Local Government series (SLGs), and other special purpose securities. Amortized discount or premium on bills, notes and bonds is also included in interest expense.

The fiscal year Interest Expense represents the total interest expense on the Debt Outstanding for a given fiscal year. This includes the months of October through September.

Interest Expense
FISCAL Year 2004
August $ 18,988,722,254.18
July $ 15,097,639,601.03
June 84,468,634,709.08
May 20,432,938,610.90
April 12,755,485,706.79
March 14,096,687,261.36
February 15,150,706,352.06
January 13,004,064,259.60
December 82,435,960,974.56
November 19,292,044,501.20
October 13,311,682,915.94
----------------------
FISCAL Year Total $ 309,034,567,146.78



From Treasury Direct, Bureau of Public Debt


AGDee 09-11-2004 12:59 PM

The Danger of the Mounting National Debt

I love how you blast what I say in regards to a post where I didn't write a single word of it, but copied it directly from the Treasury web site. Yes, it is oversimplified, but ultimately, there is only so much wealth and you can't just spend forever without some consequences. And, I disagree with where we are spending most of the money as well.

You also didn't address any of my other statements re: healthcare, Medicare prescription costs, loss of funding to the states, lack of affordable child care.

Dee

Rudey 09-11-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
The Danger of the Mounting National Debt

I love how you blast what I say in regards to a post where I didn't write a single word of it, but copied it directly from the Treasury web site. Yes, it is oversimplified, but ultimately, there is only so much wealth and you can't just spend forever without some consequences. And, I disagree with where we are spending most of the money as well.

You also didn't address any of my other statements re: healthcare, Medicare prescription costs, loss of funding to the states, lack of affordable child care.

Dee

You made the statement earlier about paying off interest. Then you posted numbers on interest and pretend you didn't mean or imply anything by that. And my favorite is your last post with a link to something you know nothing about. Wow. I blast what's wrong. There is no oversimplification. Stick to things you know - this is not one of them. Nobody even said anything about spending forever but hey if you want to make a silly vacant statement like that. Vacant.

And it's funny how you talk about other programs not being funded enough yet you talk earlier about spending too much. But it's funnier how you throw about 10 issues out there and say why don't you comment? Hey why not just write an encyclopedia while I am at it? By the way I don't want to fund your child care...your child care doesn't have a damn thing to do with me. Some of those issues don't even apply to you yet you put them up in this thread. Heck a lot of the issues are issues that Democrats did not touch prior to Bush.

-Rudey

AGDee 09-11-2004 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey

And it's funny how you talk about other programs not being funded enough yet you talk earlier about spending too much. But it's funnier how you throw about 10 issues out there and say why don't you comment? Hey why not just write an encyclopedia while I am at it? By the way I don't want to fund your child care...your child care doesn't have a damn thing to do with me. Some of those issues don't even apply to you yet you put them up in this thread. Heck a lot of the issues are issues that Democrats did not touch prior to Bush.

-Rudey

I clearly said that I don't agree with how the money is being spent. I think we could spend less and appropriate better and still meet the needs of the people of our own country.

If you want women to work and not be on welfare, then affordable child care is a necessity.

I care about other people's needs, even if the issue doesn't apply to me. That's what the bleeding heart thing is all about.

The Dems didn't have a Democratic Congress while having a Democratic President and therefore could get nothing done.

Does it make you angry that I don't call you names and insult you back? :confused:

Dee

Rudey 09-11-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
I clearly said that I don't agree with how the money is being spent. I think we could spend less and appropriate better and still meet the needs of the people of our own country.

If you want women to work and not be on welfare, then affordable child care is a necessity.

I care about other people's needs, even if the issue doesn't apply to me. That's what the bleeding heart thing is all about.

The Dems didn't have a Democratic Congress while having a Democratic President and therefore could get nothing done.

Does it make you angry that I don't call you names and insult you back? :confused:

Dee

No it's upsetting that you lie or have to resort to it though.

-Rudey

AGDee 09-11-2004 07:34 PM

Well since I'm a Democrat, I guess I can't help it, huh? LOL

Dee

Rudey 09-11-2004 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
Well since I'm a Democrat, I guess I can't help it, huh? LOL

Dee

Dee I didn't insult you or call you names. And truthfully, I wish you the best in raising your daughter while having a job and contributing to our economy.

-Rudey
--And yes you can't help lying because you're a Democrat ;)

AGDee 09-11-2004 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Dee I didn't insult you or call you names. And truthfully, I wish you the best in raising your daughter while having a job and contributing to our economy.

-Rudey
--And yes you can't help lying because you're a Democrat ;)

You're getting soft, just like The1CalledTKE...

I'm raising a son too, who happens to be a TKE legacy. All the TKEs I know are Democrats.. hmmmm.

Dee

The1calledTKE 09-11-2004 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
All the TKEs I know are Democrats.. hmmmm.

Dee

lol. My chapter was mainly Democrats. Other chapters it varied. Hoosier is a Republican TKE.

Rudey 09-11-2004 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
You're getting soft, just like The1CalledTKE...

I'm raising a son too, who happens to be a TKE legacy. All the TKEs I know are Democrats.. hmmmm.

Dee

Republicans are compassionate.

-Rudey
--Your son will be a Democrat. You'll see.

The1calledTKE 09-11-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Republicans are compassionate.

-Rudey

lol

AGDee 09-11-2004 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
lol. My chapter was mainly Democrats. Other chapters it varied. Hoosier is a Republican TKE.
Since we've totally hijacked this thread already... did Democrat TKEs vote for Reagan because he was a brother? Or do you follow your party line in that situation? There is a Republican Alpha Gam who is the Illinois State Treasurer and I was wondering if I was in Illinois if I would vote for her because she's a sister ...

The1calledTKE 09-11-2004 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
Since we've totally hijacked this thread already... did Democrat TKEs vote for Reagan because he was a brother? Or do you follow your party line in that situation? There is a Republican Alpha Gam who is the Illinois State Treasurer and I was wondering if I was in Illinois if I would vote for her because she's a sister ...
I think it all depends. If I was old enough then I would have voted for Reagan. I liked him. Now you could not pay me enough money to vote for Bob Barr.

Rudey 09-11-2004 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
I think it all depends. If I was old enough then I would have voted for Reagan. I liked him. Now you could not pay me enough money to vote for Bob Barr.
My heroes have all been cowboys.

-Rudey
--Reagan and Bush! woo woo!

The1calledTKE 09-11-2004 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
My heroes have all been cowboys.

-Rudey
--Reagan and Bush! woo woo!

The only thing the 2 have in common are that they are Republicans and being a cowboy. Bush certainly ain't nothing like Reagan.

AGDee 09-11-2004 10:46 PM

My dad, the TKE, voted for Reagan and he's typically a Democrat. I voted for Reagan once. I wasn't old enough to vote the first time he ran.

Sister Havana 09-12-2004 12:45 AM

HECK NO.

4 years ago I had a good job, good benefits, and was making good money. Admittedly, I quit it at the end of 2000...but that was to go back to school full-time and finally finish my degree. (And the company was sold right before I left and promptly laid off about half my department so no guarantee I would have stayed employed had I not quit.)

Since I graduated in December 2001, I have been temping. At first I got assignments pretty steadily but of late they've been few and far between. The market is so flooded because of all sorts of businesses closing (most recently we lost a Sprint call center, leaving over 400 people jobless...we've lost a few other places that employed quite a few people) that even the temp assignments now require the agency to send over a bunch of candidate resumes and the company screens and interviews, just like if it was a permanent job.

Benefits? Steady money? Stability? Not here...

mrblonde 09-12-2004 12:05 PM

Yes. I just got promoted. :D

PhiPsiRuss 09-13-2004 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/...4schul.750.gif
I wish I could put that in my signature.

PhiPsiRuss 09-13-2004 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
My heroes have all been cowboys.

-Rudey
--Reagan and Bush! woo woo!

Don't forget the Naked Cowboy

http://www.nakedcowboy.com/images/home1.jpg

PhiPsiRuss 09-13-2004 10:45 AM

Re: Are you better off now than you were four years ago?
 
Definitely

ann.coulter2 10-12-2006 06:55 PM

Today on Wall St.:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3GPc_yMCE&NR

Today on Wall St.:

The major indexes rebounded strongly in a broad-based advance, prompted perhaps by strong earnings reports. The Dow gained 95 points, breaking through 11,900 for the first time and setting a new intraday record – 11,959 – and a new closing record: 11,947. The Nasdaq rose 37 points to a new 5-year high, and the S&P 500 gained 12, also reaching a 5-year high.


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