bwahahahahaha. omg. bwahahahaha.

White Daisy, I luv you.

This whole think is fecking ghey.

For the record, you make me sick
 

Yep. Thats me. Except no one stalked her.. she was involved in several friendships/relationships offline, someone contacted her old chapter to get an updated phone number, and BAM we find out she's not real.
Yep.
That's me everybody. I outed her. BECAUSE I HATE LIARS. Destroying her? I'm sorry...she was a MOD who lied about her name, affiliation, activities, and traded DZ ritual secrets. Everything about her was entirely fake, and you feel she had a right to be IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION here? You're right, James, I was way out of line.

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But aren't you loosely the same group that has had members make up fake user names on GC to ridicule and be mean to other GC'ers? And didn't some member of this same group of pals create a fake livejournal account to ridicule and mock Honeychile? And isn't there a whole thread dedicated to how casually mean these people are?

FORGET EVERYONE ELSE. This is about me and her. That being said...um, no. I know NOTHING about fake lj's/account names, was never part of that. I've never even spoken to Honeychile. I have said several times to you, James, if I'm this mean, predatory bitch you make me out to me, than link it. Prove it. Back yourself up. I have done NOTHING to anyone to warrant this.

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I have no idea why the average GC'er is supposed to view mullet as being so much worse in her effect on the boards than the very group of people condemning her. It seems more like a form of poetic justice.

If you've made it this far through the thread and still don't get it, I pity you. Poetic justice??? God you're sick.

And finally, for those of you who don't have an LJ, I realize my initial post was a lil jumpy and unclear. So I posted this over there too: realize my inital post was not clear enough, and that is because, as Heather said, this is not just a GC thing anymore and since it has filtered into real life, obviously I can't disclose a lot of information. That being said, I'm the one who outed Lisa the first time, and I was right. I never make blanket statements or accusations like this...the only one I've made dealt with her.

It wasn't just a picture she took...and that picture is not mine, it is one i found on Google. She took a post I wrote and passed it off as her own. Do I really care that it looks like she wrote it? No, except I know who I'm dealing with and its an indication of other things going on. Mullets IM is on this journal...so is her same birthdate. The pics in this journal are the same ones IHE circulated among some of the boys and myself 2 years ago. And the post is stolen from my journal...even without all the other shit, connect the dots.

I agree with you that people jump to conclusions sometimes. Given what I've said above, I would hope you and others would take my statements seriously.

I am also realizing today that she and I had an interaction IRL that is only becoming clear now. We may not all get along all the time, but I would HATE to see this happen to you. We live in nearby suburbs. Try to understand.

James you and I DEFINITELY never get along, but your flippant, You-deserve-it-jules- attitude makes me ill. I'd never wish your safety in danger- I guess that's where you and I differ. But hey...laugh it up. You're right. It's hysterical.

Omega,

please make a montage of this soap opera...and make me the pimp of all the girls

thank you

Well thats a good question and deserves a serious answer.

The short version is that the entire matter is unimportant to the boards.

If XYZcutie had "outed" mullet I would probably have just asked for the thread to be deleted and a caution sent to her about bringing up non-GC stuff or posting people's personal data on the net.

Or censored creating a situation where mullet is being smeared for no discenerable reason. ITs a character attack that mullet couldn't fight against even if it wasn't true. How can you prove a negative?

I could smear any of the people on GC just by making sinister comments.

I would think that action needed to be taken if Mullet were a problem poster on GC, was personally attacking people, or was posting personal data on GC.

Or even as a stretch, if Mullet were harrassing GC'ers off the site but because of GC. And maybe this is more like this? But I would have wanted to handle most of that stuff privately because that is he said she said.

In the end, the situation as presented really doesn't effect the boards, and much like sexual relationships between GC'ers its not something that needs to aired.

Also, I find it distasteful when people smear others on here because of personal likes and dislikes.

Harem Stuff.

It seems that you, Sugar and Spice periodically come out as the voice of reason for the H & A, and of course yourself.

And honestly, I am having a hard time remembering when you have been specifically guilty of much that is attributed to the H & A.

However, you have chosen to belong to and help build a clique that is generally considered to be the mean girls of GC.

So when I see a post like this, and its not a seemingly important issue to the boards, it just seems par for the course.

And H & A members have done some reall odd stuff. The Honeychile fake live journal account.

Also didn't you guys post Rudey's pics as well as his personal information online? I seem to recall that from a while ago.

Wouldn't those people feel harrassed? O threatened?

I can guarentee you that more people have quit GC because of the antics of the H & A than the possible deceptions of Mullet.

In Greek Chat Board terms, having the H & A give dire warnings about Mullet, when most of her "deceptions" have nothing to do with Greek Chat, is a little like pedophiles telling us that someone that has tried anal sex is a real deviant.

Oh, I am just making an extreme comparison. I don't think that any of the H & A and pals like little children sexually.


Where the harem comes in

BobbyTheDon would make a great PledgeMaster. :cool:

ETA: Nothing I could have said in this post could have equalled, bettered or been worthy of following James' previous post.
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This is the way the original IHE case was handled and caused a host of problems:

1) multiple threads popping up about "What happened to IHE? She was so great."
2) the vast majority of people had no clue what was going on -- and most of them still don't (it appears, you included), which leads to incorrect assumptions about what all is going on.

If the mods or John had a problem with the contents of this thread, it could have easily been locked. Apparently they disagree because it's still open, and John even passed on information to be added to it (that mullet's IP is the same as IHE's).

As stated by both me and Jules, THIS is exactly what's happening. IHE has harassed GCers IN REAL LIFE in both incarnations (mullet and IHE). We brought this to the board's attention because we think it's important that anybody who has interacted with mullet be aware of who she really is and the potential that they could be the victim of such behavior. As I pointed out above, IHE is no run-of-the-mill troll -- she has made GCers the victims of behaviors that could qualify her for a restraining order, more than once.

I've addressed all this before and I don't feel it relates to the situation at hand. As I've stated, I don't give a flying f&%$ what somebody does or says on GC or the internet. What I do care about is when that crosses the boundaries of the internet and goes into real life. I have had three GCers that I know of that have honestly feared for their safety -- and had reason to! --because of IHE and her behavior.

As for us being the "mean girls" of GC -- if that's how people see us, I can't say I'm going to spend much time crying about it. But the thing I think is absolutely hilarious is that we all catch flak for saying the exact same thing that Rob/Rudey/Blaine/you said in another thread and were worshipped for. The whole "strong woman=bitch but the men are untouchable" stereotype is in full effect on GC . . . but that's a topic for another thread.

well, you know James, if you are going to call out people and say they posted personal information of Rudey online, why aren't you calling Rudey out for posting phone numbers and email addresses of other GC'ers online? is this that double standard coming back here??

I agree. James, you have such a way with words.

This may qualify as one of the most pointless threads on the entire site. Soap opera is an understatement. :)

it probably says a lot that I'm too scared to actually post anything of substance because I know I'll be flamed silly by one of about five girls.

This is how I'm taking this matter.

1. What has or has not happened in the past concerning the harlem is not the matter here.
2. The matter has to do with Jules and this other woman.

I've been stalked and threatened over the net, and it's not fun at all. It's scary when a random person you've never met knows your personal info.

I'm sorry this matter has risen again.

Actually I have done so personally with Rudey.

Hi there,

With all gentleness and sincerity, may I ask you to please give us a little more information about what you specifically mean when you say that this person has "harassed" people in real life? Behaviours which would result in a restraining order?

I understand that this is a sore point for you and/or the others who are affected by this person; it must be unsettling to be duped by someone you trusted. However, can you see why some people may be having a hard time accepting [your] postings? You are issuing warnings about someone who, as far as I can tell, hasn't done anything negative to anyone here on GC. It's like asking us to stay away from the nice girl. If this poster has exhibited inappropriate behaviours which endanger the physical safety of others on this board, then I believe you need to come right out and say "We met her for coffee a few months ago and she waved a knife around at us" or, "she sent us some very bizarre e-mails which said things like _______" or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT a fan on this type of "fake internet person" junk. Just this year my family and friends had to deal with a faker who was, in reality, someone who had been an old member of our group who had left under strained conditions and was now stalking us by e-mail and by phone. We caught him out big time using a fake online persona so that he could "be friends" with us - we have the hard evidence to prove his real identity. At one point, this guy outright told my father that he'd create as many fake e-mail accounts as needed to get around my dad's spam blocker software. Then this guy's behaviour got really bizarre and irrational to the point where several of us started to feel that our physical safety was in question. Four of us had to get together to discuss going to court to get an actual restraining order. :(

We originally didn't want to air the dirty laundry to the rest of the members of the club; but it came to a point where we felt obligated to cite specific examples to the others in the group so that they knew how and why to stay away from Mr. Stalker Guy. After all, he "seemed ok" to them.

I can see if you truly don't want to give away any future strategy, but it does make it hard for us to understand. In my opinion, taking one post off of someone else's LJ and using it as yours is lame, but it's not really identity theft and it's not something you can get a restraining order for. :( That's why we're confused about this. If you want to clear it up a bit, that would help. I suppose you can PM me if you'd rather respond there.

.....Kelly :)

LMAO!!!!

I love you BobbyTheDon.

I am thinking about this, and I am trying to figure out exactly why you felt the need to post this situation on GC. There is only a small group of you who has been adversely affected by this person. As you said, she has now become close to your clique twice now under two different identities. I would worry that making such a big deal about this on GC would only provoke her more. Especially if you say that this has extended beyond the internet. If you are really worried that this person might be a stalker or a serial killer and that you are in danger, wouldn't you expect posting this just to upset her more and put you in more danger?

If you are just posting this here to warn the rest of us about her, then I would say thank you, but she does not seem concerned with us, nor the rest of us with her. It sounds to me like your small group is the only one who is worried much about her.

She posed as a MODERATOR and member of DELTA ZETA from the University of Iowa and then masqueraded around as an ALPHA XI DELTA sister from Indiana University.

I know many DZs who were extremely upset about the situation the first time. The second time around she pretty much kept it on the DL that she was an Alpha Xi, but she did make references to that affiliation.

I hardly think that these are "small groups" that have been adversely affected. From what I understood, nobody likes 'perps.

I don't know what kind of online relationships she had with those "not in my small group" and the extent of info exchanged, but posting about this psycho's actions alerts those of us who are "not in the small group". It was never a "Hey, everybody join on the public flogging!" campaign. It was more of a "Watch out because she'll screw you over too!"

You made it clear that it doesn't affect you. So fine, shut up, move on to the next thread, and just respect the fact that it's a bigger issue than "just a small group" and it affects more people than you think.

KTHXBI.

Which is exactly what happened when we outed the pathological liar I mentioned before. I ended up making two new friends out of people she had lied to.

Sad, sad story.

You know what, Sandy? That was a really mean response to Kelly's perfectly polite and understandable post.

Kelly basically said (as I understand it, Kelly, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,) that it's difficult for other GCers to join the anti-whoever campaign in light of the relative lack of information you ladies have posted.

She didn't challenge the statements made so far.

She didn't make reference to the H&A.

She didn't suggest that you were telling anything else other than the absolute truth.

She simply stated -- very diplomatically, I might add, I think I would have had trouble wording things quite so nicely -- that if you want more support and understanding from the GC community at large, it's reasonable to expect to have to provide more specifics.

dude this is nuts.

Hm, weird - this sort of behavior is disarming and potentially dangerous? There you have it.

Kelly -

This is the point. Right here. This is why this was posted, I'd assume.

I wasn't replying to Kelly. Check it again.

Kelly has been around GC a long time, and though I can't remember ever really "butting heads" with her, I know her well enough on GC to NOT to reply to her in the manner you called "mean".

:)

These are my confessions...
 

ok guys. I have to seriously tell you guys something. I know many of you, and have formed great friendships with yall. But I have to tell you something. I've been living a lie on this GC world for a while now. Promise not to hate me?

Ok here goes...my real name is Bobby. its Robert...:(

BWAHAHAHA - now WhiteDaisy, you know that is just wrong!! You have ME crying with laughter over here!!

I apologize, then, Sandy. I looked back and couldn't figure out who you might've been talking to (other than Kelly), though.

Kelly and I NEVER agree, but I def. didn't think her post deserved that reaction. Glad it didn't get it.

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I'm proud of you. It took a lot of courage to come clean like that.

:: stands and appaluds::

I still love you.

I'm pretty sure she was replying to me.

Perhaps being mean to Lindz is as bad as being mean to Kelley.

I'm very upset about this.

Jules, I'm sorry that this is happening to you. Take care.

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:eek: :(

I can't believe you led us on for so long...how can I ever forgive this?!?

:D

I choose who to be civil and respectful to. I'm selective. So sue me.

If I think your post merits a mean reply, then so be it.

I've never claimed to be Miss Sunshine and Roses. I'll tell you what I think regardless if it might be frowned upon by some of the anal retentive folks at GC (but I won't be naming any names because we've done that way too much today).

All I can say is wow...I can't believe this all happened again.

I thought that my post was pretty mild. If everyone thinks otherwise, please tell me.

Do you honestly receive pleasure from being mean to people and making them feel bad?

I thought that we were all adults here, can't we just be civil and communicate like adults?

I am certainly going to try, I hope you will too.

http://www.brentroad.com/photos/00011343.jpg

Okay, I promise I'll leave your thread alone now.

Haha I like your posts the best.

So I got my hair cut last week and it looks pretty smoking.

Oh wait, this isn't the random thread?

hehehehehe!!!!! I saw your first post and I thought, "What's this? HotDamn is trying to back me up??? Surely she *must* be talking about another Kelly!" :p

:D

Thanks though!

.....Kelly :)

You're new, so you might not be familiar with how I am. I don't to get off by being "the bitch". I like to get off on other things. :) I call it like I see it, not so that others can feel like shit, but because most of the time, some things just need to be said.

If you thought your post was mild, then you think your post was mild. You shouldn't give two shits about what others think of what you write.

Those who have known me at GC since the beginning know that I don't conform myself to how it "should be".

So if I don't have a problem with how *I* communicate, then neither should you.

So now you know.

If you continue to have a problem with what I write, feel free to PM me so the rest of us can continue discussing the original intent of this thread. And you should instruct your minions/fan club to do so also. :rolleyes:

KTHXBI.

After today, you can't really tell the difference.

Ok, I'm not sure I'm following you here. Sometimes internet trolls are just annoyances and sometimes they cross the lines into real life. I wasn't trying to say that S&S, Jules and co. are making this up or overexaggerating.

I was trying to illustrate that a similar thing happened to me a couple of months ago. When we tried to warn people about stalker guy, they brushed us off saying it was probably just a little personal disagreement between a couple of people. One person even said that she thought it was "just an ego clash". But it WASN'T. It was one dude going a little nutty on us and getting bizarre. Someone in our club even passed along notes from Stalker Guy to us saying that, if we didn't like it, we could just ignore the messages.

When we finally broke down and aired all of the evidence, people came to a fuller understanding of the situation and how it was emotionally affecting us. Several club members apologized for not taking us seriously in the first place.

Similarly, simply saying that "So and so is harassing us off of GC" isn't necessarily going to get people behind you. The "faker" in question "seems ok" to most people here and thus some GCers aren't taking the thread seriously.

THAT was my point.

.....Kelly :)