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Professor 11-05-2004 09:54 AM

i guess that's my point, nothing made him exceptional. don't get me wrong, i think the guy is ok. after seeing him on tv and all the media attention i expected him to have presence like during the convention. while i'm sure that he is intelligent and will uplift AA, I found him to be just like the guy next door. he's down to earth and all - i guess i was expecting him to challenge me like a martin luther king. i don't want to take away from him, i just thought he was ok nothing more and nothing less. i spoke after him and started out with something like i did not ride the bus with rosa, i did not walk the streets and highways with martin and i did not attempt to eat at the lunch counter with the brave souls in greesnboro - the media only gave him a second and then played my speech - maybe i just had a good day. anway, i wish him the best and he has my support

Steeltrap 11-05-2004 04:45 PM

More Obama
 
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...ace-wells.html

SummerChild 11-05-2004 06:17 PM

Professor,
I guess that we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Barack Obama, as an IL state Senator for the past several years has been an exceptional force in the state legislature. This is one of the reasons that he was able to sweep the Democratic primaries besting at least 7-8 other Democratic primary candidates, some of which were real movers in IL.

Additionally, having had the pleasure of listening to him as my professor of Constitutional Law during the time that I was in law school (he's also a lecturer at my lawschool and teaches Voter Rights and Constitutional Law: Equal Protection), I can say that he is very well-respected as a great mind both by faculty and students alike on an academically level as well as a real-world level.

I would disagree that he's an average Joe. It was not only Black people in IL who put him in office (although I don't want to diminish our efforts -- Black people from ALL economic levels worked tirelessly for him in a ton of capacities from donating to his campaign to hosting receptions for him at our various lawfirms, etc. to those who worked on the streets during election day to get out the vote) - he got the majority vote from Black, White, Hispanic and probably every other group in IL. I would say that he's far from average and go as far as to say that he's probably the next great rising star.

No, he's not going to sound like MLK, which is part of the reason that I think that he appeals to some in our community. Of course this is my opinion but I think that folk are tired of the old guard which was solely comprised of preachers having the preaching style and are ready for some new fresh faces and styles. And yes, he is down-to-earth. This is something else that I think that alot of people really like about he. It may be an act, who knows, but he genuinely seems to care about people.

SC

Quote:

Originally posted by Professor
i guess that's my point, nothing made him exceptional. don't get me wrong, i think the guy is ok. after seeing him on tv and all the media attention i expected him to have presence like during the convention. while i'm sure that he is intelligent and will uplift AA, I found him to be just like the guy next door. he's down to earth and all - i guess i was expecting him to challenge me like a martin luther king. i don't want to take away from him, i just thought he was ok nothing more and nothing less. i spoke after him and started out with something like i did not ride the bus with rosa, i did not walk the streets and highways with martin and i did not attempt to eat at the lunch counter with the brave souls in greesnboro - the media only gave him a second and then played my speech - maybe i just had a good day. anway, i wish him the best and he has my support

SummerChild 11-05-2004 06:34 PM

Re: Well, it's Sen. Obama
 
Hi Soror Steeltrap,
I think that he will be a solid senator. He did very well in the state legislature as IL state senator and while Capitol Hill is different, I don't see him floundering once he gets there.

Yes, that fool Keyes (who isn't even from IL by the way - has a mansion in Maryland and rented a little makeshift apartment here in IL just for the election) got sent home, where I hope that he will stay. Do you know that that fool didn't even have the decency to call Barack Obama and congratulate him? Additionally, after hte race was called for Obama, Alan Keys STILL left his supporters standing down in the hotel ballroom not knowing when he was going to come down and at least thank them for their work. He is a mess. He took so long to come down and thank his supporters (and NEVER called Barack Obama to congratulate him or to even do the traditional conceding of the race, stating that "it's not his traditional so he doens't have to do it") that Barack Obama just went ahead and made his acceptance speech (at a different hotel at which the Barack Obama victory party was held).

There was a strong Republican candidate before Alan Keyes but he dropped out after allegations that he abused his wife when he was married to her. Yet still, Barack Obama got more votes than even the strong Republican candidate did - even before the news of his alleged behavior came out. So there were other Republicans for him to contend with and he ended up beating them.

SC

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Originally posted by Steeltrap
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...llinois_senate

I hope that he's a solid senator because in 2010, I doubt that the Illinois GOP will have to resort to azzclown dregs like Alan Keyes to run against him.


TonyB06 11-08-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SummerChild
Professor,
I guess that we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
Barack Obama, as an IL state Senator for the past several years has been an exceptional force in the state legislature. ......
SC

SC, given that you're closer to what B.Obama has done, can you perhaps share a few of his legislative accomplishments/initiatives from his time in the Illinois legislature?

I enjoyed his speech and "national introduction" if you will, and look for good things from him, but I think the national media has done a poor job of profiling him beyond his speechmaking and personality profiling articles.

SummerChild 11-08-2004 12:40 PM

Here is a link to a record of all of the bills on which he has been either a chief sponsor or a co-sponsor:
http://www.legis.state.il.us/Senate/...p?MemberID=747

Here is a synopsis of a few bills that he has proposed (just in 2003-04 - other years aren't avail online) (didn't have time to go through and see which passed, etc.). This is not an exhaustive list and I looked briefly so there is a chance that I have mischaracterized something so be sure to check the site on your own.

Helped to reform the IL death penalty system
Required police confessions to be videotaped
Required training for police on ethnic and racial sensitivity; 4 year traffic stop statistical analysis

Extend the earned income credit for families indefinitely
Created IL Alzheimer’s task force to study various issues re Alzheimer’s
Request more money from feds for sexual assault prevention
Pollution board can’t amend its current laws to be less stringent
Health care access bill for wide range of types of services
Requiring each hospital to develop an assistance to the uninsured policy re how hospitals will determine financial responsibility of uninsureds; violation of policy to subject hospital to suspension


He's also the Chair of the Health & Human Services Committee and sits on the Judiary, Local Gov't, Senate Committee of the Whole, and Welfare Committees.

SC



Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
SC, given that you're closer to what B.Obama has done, can you perhaps share a few of his legislative accomplishments/initiatives from his time in the Illinois legislature?

I enjoyed his speech and "national introduction" if you will, and look for good things from him, but I think the national media has done a poor job of profiling him beyond his speechmaking and personality profiling articles.


TonyB06 11-08-2004 12:49 PM

Good lookin' out, SC.

I'm going to read some of this. :)

SummerChild 11-08-2004 03:21 PM

Sure thing frat,
Glad that I could help.
SC

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
Good lookin' out, SC.

I'm going to read some of this. :)


fato 11-16-2004 05:16 PM

Who knew...
 
Did you know that Senator-elect Barack Obama's Campaign Chief of Staff was an Alpha Brother. Beta Alpha Chapter Morgan State University!

TonyB06 11-17-2004 11:27 AM

Re: Who knew...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fato
Did you know that Senator-elect Barack Obama's Campaign Chief of Staff was an Alpha Brother. Beta Alpha Chapter Morgan State University!

Ok, that explains why dude has blown up on the national stage! I knew it had to be a good reason. :cool:

Bruhs: Kings, Kingmakers, it don't matter.....

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Lady of Pearl 04-18-2005 09:15 PM

I think he is phenomenol -and far from the average Joe how many African Americans were the first president of the Harvard Law Review? he came from humble beginnings and proves that education can elevate a person. He has a lot of charisma and could conceivably be the first Black President!


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