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AnchorAlumna 12-26-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 778368)
Why is the information in the second post virtually repeated in the second.You GC-ers, always wanting the last word...:p

I appreciate the extra information in the second (actually third) post. Thanks Diamond!

AnchorAlumna 12-26-2006 01:15 PM

[QUOTE=...Looking at this list, though, it seems like there was a bigger problem in the greek system at some of these schools, since several had multiple chapters close in 1970-72, and a few more later in the 70's.../QUOTE]

DaffyKD said it well...
There were huge problems in the 1970s with Greek systems across the country. This was an era of social upheavel. Campuses were beginning to be integrated. Students were staging revolts. It was the time of "do your own thing" and non-conformism. Students made fun of the greeks. Membership in sororities and fraternities dropped, many chapters closed (including mine:( ), and some schools closed their Greek systems.

honeychile 12-27-2006 02:40 PM

[QUOTE=AnchorAlumna;1375012]
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Originally Posted by ...Looking at this list, though, it seems like there was a bigger problem in the greek system at some of these schools, since several had multiple chapters close in 1970-72, and a few more later in the 70's.../QUOTE

DaffyKD said it well...
There were huge problems in the 1970s with Greek systems across the country. This was an era of social upheavel. Campuses were beginning to be integrated. Students were staging revolts. It was the time of "do your own thing" and non-conformism. Students made fun of the greeks. Membership in sororities and fraternities dropped, many chapters closed (including mine:( ), and some schools closed their Greek systems.

There's a great picture in one of our history books, Loyally, which shows sisters "protesting" during rush! These well dressed coeds all had big signs that said things such as "Up With ADPi!" "Make Charity, Not Protest!" and things such as that. It's so anachronistic, I love it!

bichonl 02-23-2007 12:57 PM

Beta Phi Alpha pin on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1346&rd=1&rd=1

Delta Sigma:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0914&rd=1&rd=1

NutBrnHair 02-23-2007 01:43 PM

My question is...
 
What happens to the alumnae of the defunct NPC group when they are absorbed by another group. I understand how the current collegiate members would have been given the option to affiliate, etc., but what about the alumnae?

Just curious if any of the members of these absorbed groups went on to do great things for their "new" group, e.g., serve as chapter advisors, district leaders, inter/national officers?

FSUZeta 02-23-2007 01:55 PM

it is my understanding that the alumnae are offered the opportunity to be initiated into the absorbing group at the time that the collegiate members of the absorbed group are initiated.

Guest1 02-23-2007 07:14 PM

Sara Ida Shaw
 
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Originally Posted by Diamond Delta (Post 778204)

Pi Delta Theta-the brain child of Sarah Ida Shaw-remember her?-formed in 1925, later merged with Delta Sigma Epsilon then with DZ

So Sarah Ida Shaw created Tri Delta and Pi Delta Theta? I wonder why she felt the need to establish two. Google time.

OrigamiTulip 02-23-2007 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ErinKathleenNJ (Post 1402916)
So Sarah Ida Shaw created Tri Delta and Pi Delta Theta? I wonder why she felt the need to establish two. Google time.


She actually had a hand in several sororities' developments. She was like a one woman panhellenic. :)

CutiePie2000 02-23-2007 07:18 PM

Ida Shaw Martin is kinda like Professor Coddington who had a hand in Alpha Phi, GPhiB and AGD. :)

Guest1 02-23-2007 07:28 PM

thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1402921)
Ida Shaw Martin is kinda like Professor Coddington who had a hand in Alpha Phi, GPhiB and AGD. :)

How neat! Good to know. Thanks ladies!

bichonl 02-27-2007 10:31 AM

Delta Sigma Epsilon:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2626&rd=1&rd=1

LaneSig 02-27-2007 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1402921)
Ida Shaw Martin is kinda like Professor Coddington who had a hand in Alpha Phi, GPhiB and AGD. :)

Didn't she also help Alpha Sigma Alpha to reorganize?

33girl 02-27-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1404502)
Didn't she also help Alpha Sigma Alpha to reorganize?

Yes.

OrigamiTulip 02-27-2007 11:05 AM

Yup, and she also had a hand in the organization of Theta Upsilon, another NPC group which was eventually absorbed by DZ.

bichonl 02-27-2007 03:22 PM

I own an IAPi badge and agree with Dream*a*Dream's "merger" description. My version is the older one, sans the roses. I'd love to see a later one.

Dream, do the roses replace the diamonds on the horizontal points?

Dream, why did DPhiE have to change its badge? Can you tell us what it used to look like? The current DPhiE badge is very classy, IMHO.

OrigamiTulip 02-27-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bichonl (Post 1404665)
I own an IAPi badge and agree with Dream*a*Dream's "merger" description. My version is the older one, sans the roses. I'd love to see a later one.

Dream, do the roses replace the diamonds on the horizontal points?


http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...taalphapi2.gif

Denise_DPhiE 02-27-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by radioZTA (Post 779363)
When Beta Sigma Omicron was absorbed by (not merged with) ZTA in 1964, BSO had only 14 collegiate chapters that were still open and none of them were doing well. 7 were on campuses that already had ZTA chapters but the other 7 became ZTA chapters at their schools.

A dear friend was a BSO and her campus in PA already had ZTA at the time of the absorption. The were "released" and Alpha Phi picked them up.

DSTRen13 02-27-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrigamiTulip (Post 1404708)

That's really pretty ...

PhoenixAzul 02-27-2007 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1404933)
That's really pretty ...

I agree...wow!

Guest1 02-27-2007 10:52 PM

badge
 
That really is a beautiful badge!! I love looking at badges...such a geek I am.

I have a question for you all...since there have been so many NPC groups that didn't make it, do you think that any of the present groups will ever close or merge into another group? Of course I don't want any specific GLOs mentioned, but do you think is it a possibility?

On the other side of the spectrum...are there any local groups that are currently being considered by the NPC for membership? I've heard of a few groups that are interested, but to my knowledge nothing is happening. It has been more than 50 years now...

honeychile 02-28-2007 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by OrigamiTulip (Post 1404708)

Wow, that looks nothing like the one I saw on ebay! Either it was mislabeled, or was a pledge pin. It truly was beautiful, though!

bichonl 02-28-2007 01:30 PM

Correction: The Delta Sigma badge dated 1925 is not the same Delta Sigma that was absorbed by AOPi. Baird's 1912 (it's online now) already lists *that* Delta Sigma as absorbed.

Denise_DPhiE 02-28-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dream*a*dream (Post 1404875)
i am hesitant to speak for delta phi epsilon, not being a member of dphie. it is my understanding that the npc required them to change their original "triangle" shaped badge by adding the "ribbon" with their motto "esse quam videri" on the bottom of their badge before they were allowed entrance into the npc. supposedly, the npc felt that their original badge was too similar to that of sigma kappa and sigma sigma sigma in shape and appearance. i would imagine that the early members would have had very mixed feelings about having to change something so dear to their founders and their heritage. i cannot imagine having to change my beloved badge by npc directive. once again, i have seen and held an original dphie badge, it was beautiful and had a wonderful simplicity to it. their original badge is extremely rare and very meaningful for the sisterhood of delta phi epsilon. it has been posited that there were less than 1500 of the original dphie badges made. a member of this board whom i shall not name, who is a dphie, could better and more fully explain this required change and how unique and treasured their original badge is. she has personally rescued and preserved several of the very rare, original dphie badges. imagine the badge without the bottom "ribbon" and that is basically what it looked like. again, a member of dphie would be able to tell you the specifics. i know from the wonderful dphie members i know that they love their "new" badge as that is all most of them have ever known. however, many of the older dphie members cherish their older, original badge and rightfully try to preserve such a limited number of something so important to their heritage for their archives and personal collections.

i personally thank the pin collectors who have alerted us to situations such as this. how tragic it would be if one of these rare badges were just melted for scrap. imagine melting that wonderful iota alpha pi badge that origamitulip posted because they are no longer in existence, how sad.

*sweet*dreams*

You rang??? Yes, indeed, you have hit the nail on the head on all points. When NPC "mandated" we change our badge, it might have been a suggestion , no one knows for sure - I wasn't there in 1950! Attached are some photos. From left to right they gain age - the one with the Eta is from Pitt from 1928 only 11 years after founding - pearls were smooshed in and not prong set. I don't think our organization has any resentment for having to change the badge - again we only had 1500 members at the time and we ADDED something important, our motto - so we really didn't "lose" anything.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...hiEvarious.jpg

Denise_DPhiE 02-28-2007 03:09 PM

The Delta Sigma which became AOII
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bichonl (Post 1405247)
Correction: The Delta Sigma badge dated 1925 is not the same Delta Sigma that was absorbed by AOPi. Baird's 1912 (it's online now) already lists *that* Delta Sigma as absorbed.

The Delta Sigma which was absorbed by AOII is below...the black and white is from a yearbook and provided by an alumna and the color photo is from a fraternity pin collectors website. Incidentally, the badge photographed is from one of the the three Delta Sigma chapters and this one did not go with AOII, it was at Brown. This badge is about an inch across, so larger than most badges made today.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...DeltaSigma.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...ma1905AOTT.jpg

Drolefille 02-28-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE (Post 1405291)
You rang??? Yes, indeed, you have hit the nail on the head on all points. When NPC "mandated" we change our badge, it might have been a suggestion , no one knows for sure - I wasn't there in 1950! Attached are some photos. From left to right they gain age - the one with the Eta is from Pitt from 1928 only 11 years after founding - pearls were smooshed in and not prong set. I don't think our organization has any resentment for having to change the badge - again we only had 1500 members at the time and we ADDED something important, our motto - so we really didn't "lose" anything.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...hiEvarious.jpg

Very cool, and I can see how it would be confusing with both SK and Tri Sigma without a change. But this is only an addition, not a loss! :)

bichonl 02-28-2007 03:30 PM

Thanks, Denise! Would you happen to have a picture of the Alpha Sigma Delta badge?

aopirose 02-28-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE (Post 1405292)
The Delta Sigma which was absorbed by AOII is below...the black and white is from a yearbook and provided by an alumna and the color photo is from a fraternity pin collectors website. Incidentally, the badge photographed is from one of the the three Delta Sigma chapters and this one did not go with AOII, it was at Brown. This badge is about an inch across, so larger than most badges made today.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...DeltaSigma.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...ma1905AOTT.jpg

Thanks for the pics, D.

We did get Brown (Pembroke College) too. That was our Beta Chapter. The problem arose days later when the university officially banned GLOs. According to the AOII history book, it never became fully operational as a collegiate chapter but many of the women became active alumnae.

Denise_DPhiE 02-28-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bichonl (Post 1405300)
Thanks, Denise! Would you happen to have a picture of the Alpha Sigma Delta badge?

Yes, from a lady in DZ in TX who sought one for years. She got it on ebay in 2006. Baird's never did have a photo in the 1990 edition.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g4...a1927Front.jpg

bichonl 02-28-2007 05:21 PM

Wow, what was ASD's deal, anyway? I never heard of them before.

Denise_DPhiE 02-28-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bichonl (Post 1405405)
Wow, what was ASD's deal, anyway? I never heard of them before.

I think you are in over your head posting questions all over all the boards about badges. Time to sit back and lurk a while, won't you please? For the record, GC+badge collecting is sort of like oil+water. Lots of old discussions about this and no desire to resurrent them (please no bumping of old threads on this!)

Since you asked about ASD, I figured you knew their story as their story is one of the lesser known ones (but again, my DZ friend in TX is assembling a set of all of the badges of groups which became DZ and this one was a doozie to obtain!).

Alpha Sigma Delta (there were other groups by this same name including the group at UC Santa Cruz that just affiliated with KKG - their reason for the letters was symbols of what they stood for and not anything to do with this ASD).

Alpha Sigma Delta founded at the California Berkley as the Iaqua Club in 1919 merged with Lambda Omega in 1932 and added two new chapters. They then merged with Theta Upsilon who merged with DZ.

OleMissGlitter 02-28-2007 06:38 PM

I love this thread...so interesting!

tallgreekalum 01-30-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1402781)
it is my understanding that the alumnae are offered the opportunity to be initiated into the absorbing group at the time that the collegiate members of the absorbed group are initiated.

I know we've (ADPhi) chartered several old locals, and in those cases we've initiated alumni whenever there is an event that they will attend. We send them newsletters, etc. whether initiated or not unless they request to be taken off the list. We also did not charge the alumni a fee for initiation unless they want a badge, in which case they have to pay a small fee.

LucyKKG 01-30-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE (Post 1405454)
Alpha Sigma Delta (there were other groups by this same name including the group at UC Santa Cruz that just affiliated with KKG - their reason for the letters was symbols of what they stood for and not anything to do with this ASD).

Haha sweet! I didn't know we were mentioned in this thread! Yeah, I was really surprised when I found out there a had been another Alpha Sigma Delta. Our reasons for choosing those letters had nothing to do with the Greek meaning. We openly told people the meaning, so I'm not disclosing something secret: Alpha means the first or best, Sigma is the strongest bond in chemistry, and Delta means change (i.e. into an NPC chapter). Lol aren't we original?

I love old badges, though! Kappa has a history book that features some really old badges. *Drooool*

radioZTA 02-01-2008 02:46 PM

On page 14 of our national magazine, there is the story of a ZTA special initiate who is/was a member of Beta Sigma Omicron:

Themis Winter '08

exlurker 02-26-2008 04:19 PM

Alpha Delta Theta Chapter Roll

Alpha Delta Theta merged into Phi Mu in 1939. That was the first merger between two members of the NPC.

1918 Alpha, Transylvania
1922 Beta, Kentucky
1923 Gamma, Cincinnati
1923 Delta, Illinois
1923 Epsilon, Butler (1934)
1923 Zeta, Nebraska (1933)
1924 Eta, Ohio State
1924 Theta, Washington
1924 Iota, California, Berkeley (1934)
1925 Kappa, Ohio Wesleyan (1934)
1926 Lambda, George Washington
1926 Mu, UCLA
1927 Nu, Nebraska Wesleyan
1927 Xi, Adelphi
1928 Omicron, Brenau
1929 Pi, Samford (formerly Howard College)
1929 Rho, Ohio
1930 Sigma, Tulsa
1931 Tau, Minnesota
1931 Upsilon, Missouri (1933)
1931 Phi, USC (Southern Calif)
1932 Chi, Nevada
1932 Psi, Queens – Chicora
1932 Omega, Bethany
1934 Alpha Alpha, Charleston

In the 1939 merger, four entirely “new” Phi Mu chapters resulted. The chapters and their Phi Mu chapter names++ are:

Delta Theta, Transylvania
Alpha Kappa, College of Charleston
Beta Nu, Bethany
Zeta Kappa, Nebraska Wesleyan
Epsilon Gamma, U. of Tulsa

Other chapters merged with existing Phi Mu chapters on their campuses:

Brenau
Adelphi
UCLA
USC (Calif.)
George Washington
Queens College
Cincinnati
Samford (formerly Howard College)


++ The chapter names may not appear to be "in sequence." As I understand it, that's because, at least at that time (1939), Phi Mu was naming new chapters according to province or district. So Transylvania was in the Delta district, Tulsa in the Epsilon district, and so on.

Main sources of information: Baird's manual 18th edition and "The History of Phi Mu: The First 130 Years" (1982)

groovypq 02-26-2008 04:45 PM

Has anyone ever heard of Gamma Omicron? I read a brief history of cheerleading once that mentioned a "cheerleading fraternity" in maybe the 1920s or 30s by that name.

NutBrnHair 02-26-2008 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by groovypq (Post 1607957)
Has anyone ever heard of Gamma Omicron? I read a brief history of cheerleading once that mentioned a "cheerleading fraternity" in maybe the 1920s or 30s by that name.

Sorry, that just amuses me...a cheerleading group "Gamma Omicron"

GO, GO, GO Gamma Omicron!

::::louder:::::

GO, GO, GO Gamma Omicron!!!

TSteven 02-26-2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exlurker (Post 1607947)
Alpha Delta Theta Chapter Roll

Alpha Delta Theta merged into Phi Mu in 1939. That was the first merger between two members of the NPC.

1918 Alpha, Transylvania
1922 Beta, Kentucky
1923 Gamma, Cincinnati
1923 Delta, Illinois
1923 Epsilon, Butler (1934)
1923 Zeta, Nebraska (1933)
1924 Eta, Ohio State
1924 Theta, Washington
1924 Iota, California, Berkeley (1934)
1925 Kappa, Ohio Wesleyan (1934)
1926 Lambda, George Washington
1926 Mu, UCLA
1927 Nu, Nebraska Wesleyan
1927 Xi, Adelphi
1928 Omicron, Brenau
1929 Pi, Samford (formerly Howard College)
1929 Rho, Ohio
1930 Sigma, Tulsa
1931 Tau, Minnesota
1931 Upsilon, Missouri (1933)
1931 Phi, USC (Southern Calif)
1932 Chi, Nevada
1932 Psi, Queens – Chicora
1932 Omega, Bethany
1934 Alpha Alpha, Charleston

In the 1939 merger, four entirely “new” Phi Mu chapters resulted. The chapters and their Phi Mu chapter names++ are:

Delta Theta, Transylvania
Alpha Kappa, College of Charleston
Beta Nu, Bethany
Zeta Kappa, Nebraska Wesleyan
Epsilon Gamma, U. of Tulsa

Other chapters merged with existing Phi Mu chapters on their campuses:

Brenau
Adelphi
UCLA
USC (Calif.)
George Washington
Queens College
Cincinnati
Samford (formerly Howard College)


++ The chapter names may not appear to be "in sequence." As I understand it, that's because, at least at that time (1939), Phi Mu was naming new chapters according to province or district. So Transylvania was in the Delta district, Tulsa in the Epsilon district, and so on.

Main sources of information: Baird's manual 18th edition and "The History of Phi Mu: The First 130 Years" (1982)

I may be incorrect, but it was my understanding that Phi Mu gave the Delta Theta chapter designation to the "new" Transylvania Phi Mu chapter in honor of the chapter having been the Alpha chapter of Alpha Delta Theta.

exlurker 02-26-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1607971)
I may be incorrect, but it was my understanding that Phi Mu gave the Delta Theta chapter designation to the "new" Transylvania Phi Mu chapter in honor of the chapter having been the Alpha chapter of Alpha Delta Theta.

Hmm, I guess that might be the case; however, the Phi Mu history book I mentioned says that it's an "interesting coincidence" that the "new" Transy chapter got those two letters.

Phi Mu's Delta Zeta chapter was installed in 1931 (Cincinnati), and before that Delta Epsilon (Purdue) in 1929.

Then after the merger Delta Iota in 1942 (Baldwin - Wallace).

So whether it was an intentional, deliberate honor or just a happy coincidence, Delta Theta fit right into the Delta sequence of Phi Mu chapters.

groovypq 02-26-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 1607967)
Sorry, that just amuses me...a cheerleading group "Gamma Omicron"

GO, GO, GO Gamma Omicron!

::::louder:::::

GO, GO, GO Gamma Omicron!!!

:D

That's why they went with Gamma Omicron, apparently... because it "spelled" GO! I wish I could find out more about it, if it was just at one school or became "national."


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