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lyrica9 06-27-2004 08:29 PM

ok, i always thought the term was "village bicycle"
all this talk about about paris being the 'village tricycle' is giving me mental images of toddlers drooling and chasing after her.
bleh:p

IowaStatePhiPsi 06-27-2004 08:41 PM

Re: Paris...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurfinDBeach
Her grandfather, Conrad Hilton, the founder of Hilton Hotels, is one of our Fraters in Tau Kappa Epsilon!
Having connections to Paris Hilton is something I would never want my fraternity to let people know about.

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
And Buffalos have wings! Great Body, Pretty (oh Twity), DAH!
That's Jessica Simpson, not Paris Hilton, although both are sought after sex-objects who show off on camera a lack of depth in the personality department.

Quote:

Originally posted by PsiU_EN
She didnt mean for the tape to be released i felt bad for her when i heard about that...but i thought all the guys in the world were given a gift.
Saying X-rated images or video of a woman released without her permission is a gift... yeah- you would fail the Gentleman Conduct part of fraternity life at Phi Kappa Psi.

Erik P Conard 06-27-2004 08:55 PM

dirty leg Paris
 
Coming from an older generation, I cannot, in my twilight, seem to
understand the attention, nay, even reverence, given to likes of
Paris Hilton, Ron Jeremy, the Clintons, et al.
We called them dirty legs with bucks, monied lounge lizards, and
talked in whispers...perhaps we were the hypocrites...
But at any rate, the numbers of folks reading these posts, including myself, are simply cybernetic voyeurs...LOL
Several of you, though, have exhibited pride in your organizations and have taken stands that makes us old timers proud of you...and that there is hope yet.

KSigkid 06-27-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Is Skanks just those who are Jewish or not?


Quick hijack...what exactly does this mean? Usually I can figure out what you're saying, not this time though.

thermobryan 06-27-2004 09:43 PM

First of all, thats about the 50th post I've read from Earp that makes no sense at all, Are you seriously on E or Crack?

First of all, HELL YEAH I would marry her, especially since she's rich as hell. Paris isn't alrite, shes HOT!

And yeah, I know sorority girls that are much larger whores than her...Fraternity groupies are much worse in my eyes than paris hilton...

Rudey 06-27-2004 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thermobryan
First of all, thats about the 50th post I've read from Earp that makes no sense at all, Are you seriously on E or Crack?

First of all, HELL YEAH I would marry her, especially since she's rich as hell. Paris isn't alrite, shes HOT!

And yeah, I know sorority girls that are much larger whores than her...Fraternity groupies are much worse in my eyes than paris hilton...

Exactly. There are girls on here who brag about being pounded by enough men to start a military branch.

-Rudey

thermobryan 06-28-2004 12:20 AM

It's not just on here, its just girls in general. I mean, no offense, but if sororities want to improve their images then don't rush whores, and dont let your girls be groupie whores...

IowaStatePhiPsi 06-28-2004 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thermobryan
It's not just on here, its just girls in general. I mean, no offense, but if sororities want to improve their images then don't rush whores, and dont let your girls be groupie whores...
It's not just on here, its just guys in general. I mean, no offense, but if fraternities want to improve their image then don't rush rapists, and dont let your guys be date rapists...

(not exactly a pot-kettle situation, but you get the picture of how stereotypes can be used)

Rudey 06-28-2004 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
It's not just on here, its just guys in general. I mean, no offense, but if fraternities want to improve their image then don't rush rapists, and dont let your guys be date rapists...

(not exactly a pot-kettle situation, but you get the picture of how stereotypes can be used)

You're right. We shouldn't rush rapists.

-Rudey

CASIGKAP 06-28-2004 01:11 AM

O.K. I am seriously LAUGHING my ass off over how ridiculous some of you really are. It's a fucking post & the fact that some of you are rushing to defend the honor of a girl like her makes me laugh so hard it's unbelievable. However, I would like to thank all of you for the attention my post has received. I could frankly care less for what you may think of me & my views regarding Paris Hilton. We all have our opinions & I'm choosing to express mine. As for being on my high horse, the view is quite comfortable from here so I think I'd like to stay up here & view the lesser people from my post on Mount Olympus. In case you didn't get that, I just used sarcasm.

While there may be sorority girls out there who have done things far worse than Paris Hilton, the point you obviously missed is that while a some gals have reputations that are beneath the scum of a boot, the rest of us don't need the rest of the world to associate us with ladies (and I use the term loosely) like Paris Hilton. It's bad enough sororities have bad reputations & publicity from certain books don't help either, but to now have her playing a sorority girl just plays up on the negative stereotypes we've been battling all along.

swissmiss04 06-28-2004 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CASIGKAP
O.K. I am seriously LAUGHING my ass off over how ridiculous some of you really are. It's a fucking post & the fact that some of you are rushing to defend the honor of a girl like her makes me laugh so hard it's unbelievable.
Not only that, but defending the "honor" of someone they don't even know. Sort of cheapens the gesture.

decadence 06-28-2004 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl: Re Paris and the tape, why wouldn't the guy want her to pay him off? I haven't seen it, but I'm assuming that his "stuff" is featured as well.
He revels in it. You're forgetting the fact he's morally bankrupt. He routinely videos sexual encounters with partners, what said partners don't expect is for him to routinely lend those videos out to his buddies for their "enjoyment" (which he did). Much less release them on the internet and make several million dollars out of it. There was a case some time back where a college student released a tape of his girlfriend (not Libby H.) and under some obscure law got a harsh sentence. They should throw away the key on this guy, too.
Quote:

Originally posted by swissmiss04: Paris Hilton IMHO hasn't done anything of value in her life. Sure she's good looking, but anyone w/ the right stylist can accomplish that. I don't see her pursuing an education, contributing to society, or helping others. I'm sure many people on this board have accomplished far more than she has. She's coasting on some well chosen style, her daddy's name, and her 15 minutes of notoriety.
Having fun is not outlawed just yet. Regardless of what she does, her lineage and youth means she will be followed WHATEVER she does. That aspect mirroring the late Princess Diana. :) Incidentally many of the benefits she has been to raise much for charity but that aspect is not focused on, just who's with her/her clothes etc. Just because she hasn't picked up a shovel and helped dig a community garden for disadvantaged kids doesn't mean she doesn't do anything.

IowaStatePhiPsi - liked the second half of your post.
Quote:

Originally posted by CASIGKAP: O.K. [sic] I am seriously LAUGHING my ass off over how ridiculous some of you really are. It's a fucking post & the fact that some of you are rushing to defend the honor of a girl like her makes me laugh so hard it's unbelievable. However, I would like to thank all of you for the attention my post has received. I could frankly care less for what you may think of me & my views regarding Paris Hilton. We all have our opinions & I'm choosing to express mine. As for being on my high horse, the view is quite comfortable from here so I think I'd like to stay up here & view the lesser people from my post on Mount Olympus. In case you didn't get that, I just used sarcasm.
I do understand sarcasm, know a foul-mouthed jealous brat when I see one, too. Clearly your knowledge of classical mythology is as extensive as your grasp of courtesy and respect. Enjoy your time there.
I could point out again in detail how she parties less than some college girls, how she was the victim of someone she trusted releasing intimate records of a committed relationship; but I think it'd be lost on you.

kddani 06-28-2004 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by decadence
He revels in it. You're forgetting the fact he's morally bankrupt. He routinely videos sexual encounters with partners, what said partners don't expect is for him to routinely lend those videos out to his buddies for their "enjoyment" (which he did). Much less release them on the internet and make several million dollars out of it. There was a case some time back where a college student released a tape of his girlfriend (not Libby H.) and under some obscure law got a harsh sentence.
Okay, you're so quick to defend Paris Hilton about judgments being made against her, but then you drop a harsh judgment about the guy? Not that i'm saying he's not an asshole, but at least be consistent. Attacking others for their views on Paris, but then you're attacking this guy who you also don't know- that's pretty inconsistent.

And the case that you're talking about, the guy got off scott-free I believe, at least on appeal. I remember it because of the outrage in the discussion of this first year.

decadence 06-28-2004 07:38 AM

Harsh judgment? Ooh not even. :D

He gave an interview in a UK paper (colour supplement of) a while back, a double page spread. He enthused about how he'd made $8 or 9m dollars out of it (selling video on the net etc). The newspaper (The Observer) is a broadsheet; fairly respected and not tabloid style.

It was an interview given by him with direct quotes, even if there was a slight spin, it was still an interview in which he was happy to state how happ he was to have made all those $$ and how okay he was with his methods.

I consistently think he's a lowlife. :p

kddani 06-28-2004 08:37 AM

guess it's also okay to call people you don' t know (GCers) a "foul mouthed jealous brat", but it's not okay for people to make judgments about Paris?
Talk about hypocritical.......

decadence 06-28-2004 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danielle: guess it's also okay to call people you don' t know (GCers) a "foul mouthed jealous brat", but it's not okay for people to make judgments about Paris?
Talk about hypocritical.......
I asked for clarification on what was meant by certain people's comments. They came out with them; I imagined they'd know why they said them?! It's doubtful they have a type of Tourette's syndrome affecting their typing.

As for comment on foul mouthed if you can't extrapolate any basis for that from his/her post then I can't help you. As for suggestions of jealousy it's a logical assumption (esp. in absence of alternative explanation offered by poster) of the basis of his/her vitriol toward someone she/he has never met and who practices behaviour many other people of that age do (but which said poster doesn't condemn with similar vitriol).

So I don't buy into your hypocrisy comment.

kthxbye

thermobryan 06-28-2004 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
It's not just on here, its just guys in general. I mean, no offense, but if fraternities want to improve their image then don't rush rapists, and dont let your guys be date rapists...

(not exactly a pot-kettle situation, but you get the picture of how stereotypes can be used)

Yes, I understand what you're saying, but the post is on Paris Hilton poorly representing sororities, not males being represented...And I HATE that pot-kettle analogy!

All I gotta say is, shes rich, hot and can do whatever the hell she wants to...I'm sure most (I DIDNT SAY ALL) girls in her situation would be doing the same damn things...

IowaStatePhiPsi 06-28-2004 05:44 PM

I saw no reference to this being about Paris Hilton... seems to me you were dissing sorority women in general.

Quote:

Originally posted by thermobryan
It's not just on here, its just girls in general. I mean, no offense, but if sororities want to improve their images then don't rush whores, and dont let your girls be groupie whores...

Rudey 06-28-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
I saw no reference to this being about Paris Hilton... seems to me you were dissing sorority women in general.
Oh so girls who sleep around and use that freedom are on the same level as date rapists?

-Rudey
--Normally you'd compare them to guys who sleep around but I guess in Narnia weird comparisons are made.

IowaStatePhiPsi 06-28-2004 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
but you get the picture of how stereotypes can be used)
I was comparing his stereotype of all sorority girls are sluts to the non-greek stereotype of all fraternity men are rapists.

Apparently you cant keep up with this conversation.

Rudey 06-28-2004 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
I was comparing his stereotype of all sorority girls are sluts to the non-greek stereotype of all fraternity men are rapists.

Apparently you cant keep up with this conversation.

You mow lawns. I do investment banking. You went to a state school. I went to a good school. I outpace you.

Now that we got over the whole "you can't keep up" thing. You obviously can't make correct comparisons but hey keep trying boy.

-Rudey

IowaStatePhiPsi 06-28-2004 06:00 PM

I forgot- your shit dont stink either, huh grandpa?

Rudey 06-28-2004 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
I forgot- your shit dont stink either, huh grandpa?
Let me get this straight:
Rudey=Banker vs IowaStatePhiPsi=Day laboring gardner
Rudey=Good school vs IowaStatePhiPsi=2nd tier public school
Rudey=Make comparisons to something similar vs IowaStatePhiPsi=Make comparisons to thinks that aren't similar


And we end this all we a "your shit don't stink" comment.

-Rudey
--Wonderful Chachi

swissmiss04 06-28-2004 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by decadence
That aspect mirroring the late Princess Diana. :)
Paris Hilton can't even think about holding a candle to the late Princess Diana. She had more class in one eyelash than Paris will exhibit in a lifetime.

PhiPsiRuss 06-28-2004 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swissmiss04
Paris Hilton can't even think about holding a candle to the late Princess Diana. She had more class in one eyelash than Paris will exhibit in a lifetime.
Yeah, but Paris has been seen having sex on the internet, and Princess Diana hasn't. Its all a wash, if you ask me.

IowaStatePhiPsi 06-28-2004 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swissmiss04
Paris Hilton can't even think about holding a candle to the late Princess Diana. She had more class in one eyelash than Paris will exhibit in a lifetime.
Not to mention her work with groups that assist landmine victims and AIDS victims.

Rudey 06-28-2004 06:51 PM

I liked it when Diana was in the tabloids with several gentlemen who weren't Charles.

-Rudey

starang21 06-28-2004 08:22 PM

so anyhow.....before this ends up being a pissing contest....

paris hilton anyone?

James 06-28-2004 08:32 PM

Good for Paris!!

As far as marrying her, well at least she would have economic parity. You don't have to worry about her taking you to the cleaners during a divorce. And thats important.

I wouldn't want to date her publicly though. She gets too much attention. Not her fault really, but i wouldn't want to be known as PAris Hiltons Boy friend. ITs not a form of notoriety i would appreciate.

starang21 06-28-2004 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Good for Paris!!

As far as marrying her, well at least she would have economic parity. You don't have to worry about her taking you to the cleaners during a divorce. And thats important.

I wouldn't want to date her publicly though. She gets too much attention. Not her fault really, but i wouldn't want to be known as PAris Hiltons Boy friend. ITs not a form of notoriety i would appreciate.

it probably wouldn't last too long, either.

James 06-28-2004 08:38 PM

I agree that would be the only worse thing . . . being Paris Hilton''s EX-Boyfriend.

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
it probably wouldn't last too long, either.

starang21 06-28-2004 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I agree that would be the only worse thing . . . being Paris Hilton''s EX-Boyfriend.
i don't know about worse...think about all the cool shit you would get...better to have mooched and lost than to never have mooched at all.

PhiPsiRuss 06-28-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
better to have mooched and lost than to never have mooched at all.
You should write Hallmark cards for a living.

33girl 06-28-2004 09:48 PM

i know you like to think your isht don't stink
but lean a little bit closer see
roses really smell like poo-poo-ooh

wait, what is this thread about?

AlphaPhiBubbles 06-28-2004 10:17 PM

Re: dirty leg Paris
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
Coming from an older generation, I cannot, in my twilight, seem to
understand the attention, nay, even reverence, given to likes of
Paris Hilton, Ron Jeremy, the Clintons, et al.
We called them dirty legs with bucks, monied lounge lizards, and
talked in whispers...perhaps we were the hypocrites...
But at any rate, the numbers of folks reading these posts, including myself, are simply cybernetic voyeurs...LOL
Several of you, though, have exhibited pride in your organizations and have taken stands that makes us old timers proud of you...and that there is hope yet.

I'll admit that I'm getting slightly irritated with the tangents in this thread...but its not stopping me from going on this small one.

I would never compare Ron Jeremy to the Clintons. EVER. Sorry, but I didn't see the relevance in that.

Everyone else needs to relax about Paris Hilton.

thermobryan 06-28-2004 11:39 PM

Re: Re: dirty leg Paris
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
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I would never compare Ron Jeremy to the Clintons. EVER. Sorry, but I didn't see the relevance in that.

\COLOR]

I totally agree. Clinton was one of the greatest American Presidents of all time.

thermobryan 06-28-2004 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
i don't know about worse...think about all the cool shit you would get...better to have mooched and lost than to never have mooched at all.
About the only time in my life I think I'll ever agree with you...

CarolinaCutie 06-29-2004 12:09 AM

Another tangent... why is it assumed that if you don't have anything nice to say about someone, you're automatically jealous of them?

Personally, I don't spend my time being jealous of celebrities. But the contents of my opinions about anyone, including Paris Hilton, have very little to do with my envy of them. If I say I think someone looks trashy, that's not secret girl code for "OMG I WANT TO BE HER!"

SO my two cents:
I don't think anyone in this thread knows Paris well enough to be able to discern whether or not she is a two cent ho. Although I really really hate to admit it, I do agree with decadence on the ONE point; I don't think the video is a porn video exactly. It wasn't meant to be put out for public consumption, and I don't think her participation or her acts in said video have anything to do with her being a slut.

However, other than being quite attractive and rich, she doesn't have much going for her (lol I know that sounds kinda stupid, how much MORE do you need going for you than to be hot and rich, right?). She isn't educated, and IMO she has TERRIBLE taste in clothing. Reality shows are naturally edited to show entertaining things, but The Simple Life reveals very few flattering aspects of her personality.

But really, the whole point of this thread is that she's going to be playing a sorority president. And that's the part I don't get. Maybe I haven't met enough sorority presidents, particularly California types, but I just don't understand that casting. I guess I could see her as a sorority girl, but I generally think of a sorority president as the uptight, overachieving, micromanaging, perfection-seeking, heart-of-ice type (and that's SUCH a generalization, so no offense to all the Presidents out there!) Granted, it's National Lampoon, so I shouldn't expect much reality to come into play. But can any of the gallant Paris defenders honestly say that her role in a movie spoofing Greek life would be positive PR? Somehow I doubt it.

Rudey 06-29-2004 12:16 AM

I think she dresses well. I also think that her business ventures are going well and so is her acting.

Anyway as for the role...yeah I agree with you. I guess we'll see if she can play that role well but I really see reese witherspoon playing a charaction just like in the movie election.

-Rudey

Quote:

Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
Another tangent... why is it assumed that if you don't have anything nice to say about someone, you're automatically jealous of them?

Personally, I don't spend my time being jealous of celebrities. But the contents of my opinions about anyone, including Paris Hilton, have very little to do with my envy of them. If I say I think someone looks trashy, that's not secret girl code for "OMG I WANT TO BE HER!"

SO my two cents:
I don't think anyone in this thread knows Paris well enough to be able to discern whether or not she is a two cent ho. Although I really really hate to admit it, I do agree with decadence on the ONE point; I don't think the video is a porn video exactly. It wasn't meant to be put out for public consumption, and I don't think her participation or her acts in said video have anything to do with her being a slut.

However, other than being quite attractive and rich, she doesn't have much going for her (lol I know that sounds kinda stupid, how much MORE do you need going for you than to be hot and rich, right?). She isn't educated, and IMO she has TERRIBLE taste in clothing. Reality shows are naturally edited to show entertaining things, but The Simple Life reveals very few flattering aspects of her personality.

But really, the whole point of this thread is that she's going to be playing a sorority president. And that's the part I don't get. Maybe I haven't met enough sorority presidents, particularly California types, but I just don't understand that casting. I guess I could see her as a sorority girl, but I generally think of a sorority president as the uptight, overachieving, micromanaging, perfection-seeking, heart-of-ice type (and that's SUCH a generalization, so no offense to all the Presidents out there!) Granted, it's National Lampoon, so I shouldn't expect much reality to come into play. But can any of the gallant Paris defenders honestly say that her role in a movie spoofing Greek life would be positive PR? Somehow I doubt it.


CASIGKAP 06-29-2004 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by decadence
I do understand sarcasm, know a foul-mouthed jealous brat when I see one, too. Clearly your knowledge of classical mythology is as extensive as your grasp of courtesy and respect. Enjoy your time there.
I could point out again in detail how she parties less than some college girls, how she was the victim of someone she trusted releasing intimate records of a committed relationship; but I think it'd be lost on you.

Dear decadence,
How your delightful wit gives me a good chuckle. You are trying to defend the dubious honour and character of a person whom I have apparently and callously besmirched. I admire the way you have risen splendidly to the occasion of defending Paris Hilton. Alas, your lack of character makes itself plain by your blatant and unwarranted attack on my personal character by dubbing me a "foul-mouthed jealous brat". May I point out the fact that I have not had the honor of meeting you so for you to presume to know something about me is quite presumptous. My attack on Miss Hilton however, stands due to the fact that one can hardly turn the pages of a paper or magazine or turn on the television or Internet without seeing yet ANOTHER scandalous yet true story about her. This original post was not about the unfortunate taste in men she apparently had as is proved by the "gentleman" who taped the sexual encounter & publicized it. The post was about negative image she gives to already embattled sororities who are trying to overcome the negative stereotypes given to us because of the actions of girls like her.

Also, would you really like to know what my knowledge consists of regarding classical mythology? Let us say we leave the conventional Greek gods and try something new.
We could discuss the mythology of Africa that has gods like Unkulunkulu (The Supreme Creator), Nzambi the Sun god, and Leza the god of Rain.
Or we could discuss the Japanese Creators Izanagi and Izanami or the Ocean god Susanowo.
Or China's Supreme Ruler Shang Di.
The Inca's had Viracocha the Lord of the World and Inti the Sun God.
The Celts had The Dagda (Lord of Knowledge).
Then there is Odin the Norse chief of gods.
In India, there is Surya the Sun god and Ganga, the guardian of the Ganges River.
My personal favorites are the Egyptian gods. Re (sometimes called Ra or Phra) is the Sun god, Nut (sometimes spelled Nuit or Neuth) is the Sky god, Geb the Earth god is unusual in that he is referred to as the earth mother, and Amun, god of wind and ruler of the air.

Take it as you wish but do not presume to know others ignorance before you look at your own.


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