I GOT HOS IN DIFFERENT AREA CODES.


We call them the H&A.

i don't think i can say that word

We just dropped a pledge with the last name HO, I'm being serious....When he was pledging I asked him, "how are the ho's?" , he replied, "you mean my mom and dad?"
That was one of the funniest moments....

WHAT?!?!?
Tricks ain't nothin but **** and tricks....

that would be funny

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When your boyfriend gives you his letters where I go to school, they do get tied to a tree and stuff thrown at them. Then the rest of the chapter goes to find the girlfriend and serenades her, ect. Because all of the greeks are housed very near to each other it is like a greek activity. We all love to hear the singing and it is a good time for all. I can not believe that this would be considered hazing. It is not done without the boyfriend being fully aware and there are ways of getting around it.
I am sorry if you all think that I sound stupid, but it is fun and everyone really enjoys it. ;)

THANK YOU. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Some people think that the people at Headquarters don't know how to use the Internet. They do. And they are watching. I hate to sound so paranoid, but I definitely think it's way more Big Brother than we imagine. And while I do think the things mentioned in this thread are hazing, I also think it would be a real SHAME to see someone's chapter get shut down over something so trivial. But it happens.

:D

At my school, we called it lavaliering. The guy will buy a lavalier with his letters and give it to his girlfriend. It's kind of like a greek promise ring.
My boyfriend, a Kappa Sig, lavaliered me about 2 years ago and I wore his letters proudly on my necklace along with my ZTA lavalier.

If I want a piece of jewelry from a guy that badly, I'll just wait for the ring. :)

My letters mean nothing to him, and that's the way we like it.

Things may be different now, but when I was at Valpo, most fraternities would allow you to lavalier a girl and give her your letters. My now-husband and I picked out new letter sweatshirts together (his letters) the week after we were lavaliered. I pinned him the next summer (local), and he pinned me the January after that. And he did wear a screen-printed sweatshirt with my letters on it, not sewn letters, though that was rare even when we had the locals.

I would regularly wear his pin with a nice shirt and nice pants whenever they had pledge recitals or Musicale each semester. It was an honor to do so. ('course, this meant he had to borrow his brother's/best man's pin for our wedding because we forgot his in my jewelry case at home, oops!) And for his birthday last year or the year before, I bought him the crown set of his pin.

I think a lot has to do with whether you're in a greek org of your own, what your campus tradition is, what your org tradition is, etc. Since letters came with lavaliers, most women didn't receive pins; lots of guys just went straight to engagement. Those of us who did get pinned treated those pins with respect and honor.

Yes, you'd occasionally get people who would lavalier someone and they'd wear letters for years and then break up, but then again people break off engagements too. -shrug- I don't know whether lavaliering was a bigger or lesser deal on our campus compared to others.

i think the idea of being pinned or lavaliered is the sweetest thing but maybe b/c I am already in a GLO I would feel wierd wearing a shirt with any letters but AEPhi.

alright guys thermobryan is my brother and we are from the same chapter. i know the way he said what he said sounded questionable but trust me he didnt mean what it sounded like. bryan is a great pike and he puts in 110% everyday, he is the Vice President and pushes the Fraternity and has mad pride in it. No we dont haze new members, and its not like we haze the crap out of our brothers at all, we just give them a hard time and joke with them a lot and "punk" em, and by that i mean we just push em around and play with him, not beat him, not tie him to a tree, nothing... just playful like brothers play around with each other. no punches are thrown, nothing like that at all, its just we give them a hard time mentally when we hang out and joke around with em like "you know your gonna get it if you two break up right?" nothing more. hq doesnt need to come out, we are not beating each other up or anything. its all good. sorry if you were offended by this thread, its just bryan has been through some shit lately and is really stressed out, and for good reason.

It is really nice and refreshing to see chapter brothers sticking by their brother on GC! I know I and many others have been victim to the opposite, chapter bro/sis coming on GC to slander their own. Way to go Pikes!

thats how pike do it baby... brotherhood at its finest :)

I agree with most of the ladies, although I think it would be a great honor for a boy to give me his letters. I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing them. I know what my letters mean to me, and I wouldn't ever want anyone but other sisters to be displaying them. Let alone my badge!

I could never imagine how someone else feels about their letters or what those letters stand for or mean to their organization or themsleves. Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable, and highly doubt that I would wear them at all.

Yet I understand how special someone should be to do something like that. But I also feel thats what a promise ring or engagement ring are for. It definitly is something sweet and a big definition is some relationships, but it's just not for me.

My Sig Ep boyfriend pinned me almost two years ago and it was probably the most romantic gesture besides engagement. I am so glad he chose to let me in on something that is so important to him. Call it old fashioned, but it really means alot to me and I will always defend a Sig Ep like I would my own Sigma Kappa sisters.

I am very proud to wear the Delta Upsilon pin along with my own Delta Gamma badge. I'll never forget the night my best friend asked me to wear his pin. I was about to graduate and go traveling for a year, when he asked me to take his pin. He explained that even though we weren't in a romantic relationship (at the time) he wanted me to know how important i was to him and that he wanted me to be a part of his life forever. His fraternity means the world to him, and he means the world to me.

I hope I don't upset anyone by this...

I'm on the fence as the the whole issue, it does seem that you shouldn't be wearing letters unless you've earned them. However, personally I would love to be pinned/lavaliered by Beta. I have known most of them since high school and I hang out with them way more than my sisters. I know a lot about their pledging and their nationals, mostly from being around so much. These guys are like my brothers. I feel more comfortable with them than with my own sisters, and (for various reasons too lengthy to get into in one post) care more about their house than my own. They have all joked around from time to time that they should lavalier me as a whole house, like at their formal or something. If they ever did I think I'd cry. I would cherish those letters more than many people I know do their own.

His letters may not mean the same thing to me as they do to him.... but they still mean a lot to me. I don't understand how a girl can say his letters mean nothing to her.

We were lavaliered and then engaged... pinning was pretty uncommon in his chapter. They said it was because of not wanting to give away their pins but we girls suspected it was because they didn't want to be tied to a tree. ;)

Even though I had my own letters I loved wearing his, too. I still am proud to be a Sigma Chi wife and I care about his brothers as if they were my own... brothers-in-law, maybe? :)

agreed. I was two weeks away from being lavilered into Kappa Sigma when we broke up. He had the lavilere and everything.

It would've meant a lot to me not because I know what "KS" or "AEKDB" stand for, but because I know how much they mean to HIM. Same reason why I always tried to be sweet to his brothers -- even the ones I didn't like -- because they were important to HIM.

It would've been an honor to wear them -- for a fraternity to think I was a good enough example of the kind of girl they all wanted to date to give me a lavilere.

I would love to be lavaliered or pinned by my Kappa Sigma man. It would truly be an honor wto have this happen. I already proudly wear his letters, and also love all of his brothers like they were my own. It seems sometimes, at least at my alma mater, that lavaliering your girl was this kiss of death for the relationship, so a lot of guys didn't do it. But so many times, it works out beautifully. I would be elated if my guy shared that with me!!!

If he doesn't do it, let me know and I will do it. I'm an AEPi and we love ADPi.

WOOOO GO ADPi!!!!

-Rudey
--Rudey is spreading Greek love!

AGREED!!!

:::huge round of applause for you:::

I have no desire to know what anyone's letters mean, or his motto or anything, but just knowing that it is something that is so important to him, would make it mean a lot to me too.

I totally agree with everything HotDamn said.....I couldn't have said it any better.

Thanks Rudey!

My boyfriends fraternity lavalieres, but does not pin. It's seen as the pre-engagement, I want to marry you, type deal. Now, if my boyfriend were still on campus and at school this year, that might be a possibility, but seeing as he isn't, we no longer really talk about lavaliering, just the actual eventual engagement instead, heh.

When I was, oh, probably in high school, talk came up at home of college and GLOs, and I asked my Kappa Sig dad if I could see his badge. His response was, "you'll have to ask your mother; I gave it to her." She went and pulled it out of a special place in her jewelry box -- this would have been about 30 years after he pinned her. They both clearly saw it as a very romantic thing.

Aww, that is so sweet. :)

WOW!! That's is so very special. I'm getting all teary, and tingly inside.

If only......

They might not now, but they used to-- I've got the pin to prove it!

Do they still give you letters if you get lavaliered?

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If you are serious, then find out what is appropriate for your chapter and campus.

I wanted to share my experiences...

Where I come from, we know it's a serious relationship when the girl is lavaliered, then pinned. Or.."taking them home to meet Grandmother!!.."

Where I went to school, it was a big deal in the relationship when the girl recieved a lavalier.

I know...I started dating a TKE my sophomore year, and in my jr. year, he lavaliered me...that winter, he "pinned" me, as was their tradition at the campus. It was also the same time that he asked me to marry him. I remember that during Spring Break, he let me wear his letters when we went to Miami for Spring Break. We were on the campus of one of the Community colleges, and several of the brothers saw me wearing the shirt, and came up to talk to us. Great experience!

We were engaged through January of my senior, then we ended up breaking up. The whole situation was very stressful. We didn't speak for several months, and a few months after graduation, I found his pin packed away. I sent it back through a brother of his who was also a mutual friend, along with my lavalier he had given. me. Well, he called me when he got it back, and we talked. He told me that he was going to mail the necklace back to me to keep as a memory of all of the good times we had. I still have it, tucked away in my jewelry box, along with good memories.


Good luck, and I hope that this special lady cares enough about you to recognize the importance and honor of you sharing your letters with her.

TKE colonizes at Community Colleges?:eek:

I believe it was Miami-Dade community college if my memory serves me right...it's a HUGE campus in Miami with two locations and right next to several other campuses, so there apparently was a lot of chapter support.

I think it's something they tried for a short time, and I think they only did it at a few campuses.

If you end up doing it, you are doing it solely for her not you. For whatever perceived status or "awwwww" feeling it gives her.

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dang im kinda late on these responses but hey...ive been busy..haha
haha oh man thats awesome, thrown in a lake...haha

haha, INDEED.....seems we've already been through this, but really...the "hazing" thing was taken way out of context..wrong choice of words i guess

ummm....those guys had a big happy lovefest, eh??? :eek: ...hmmm....well, :D sure glad I'm a Pike... ;)

haha, i never knew about that!!

word, filthy....always great to see support among bros...YES indeed, that is brotherhood at its finest...

Rho Pi chapter of TKE was colonized here when the University of Rio Grande was still Rio Grande Community College. They colonized I believed in '87 and Rio changed their name in '90. But hey, the boys are still going strong!

*once again sees nothing wrong with community colleges*

Would someone please find my boyfriend and maybe give him a hint regarding this topic? (not that I'm obsessive about it or anything) It all just sounds so sweet and sincere----I'm totally jealous!!!