I'm sure you right. As she writes, I'm sure she finds that things she thought would work in fact don't, and she has to rethink things. I'd be amazed if that didn't happen.

But I'm doubting that her edits of plot threads would include the ultimate fate of the title character, especially given her care in laying things out and foreshadowing all of the really major events far in advance. In think she knows the destination she is heading to, she made herself a map of how to get there before she started, and as she goes she finds adjustments that she needs or wants to make in her map. But the destination is, I bet, the same. Every interview with her that I have heard or read indicates that she has no doubt how it will all end.

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Do you have a link to a transcript of that Biography interview??

'fraid not. I just looked at the A&E site, but didn't find much there either.

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MysticCat, I've heard the whole "final chapter is already written" a kajillion times, and I've never seen proof of it. She did flash a notebook showing her original plans for all the Hogwarts students, but despite multiple fans searching the net for the "last chapter" reference, no one has ever been able to provide a link to that interview, though some swear they saw it. It's supposed to have appeared sometime in 2000, but the evidence hasn't been provided. It's kind of an urban legend. I know that she did appear in a Biography channel interview, but it's an older one. Did she flash the chapter in it? I'm really fascinated about this because it's kind of a holy grail of Potterdom.

Too true. Best I can tell you is that in the interview I saw on A&E (which may indeed have been an old one) she pulled out a manila envelope, took a worn pale green spiral bound notebook from it and identified it as containing "the final chapter of the last book, which wraps up all of the loose ends and tells what happens to the characters -- those that survive, at least. Not everyone will survive." (Fairly accurate quote, I think.) She did definately say "final chapter."

Sorry I can't help more on the grail search.

Oh, interesting. I've heard so many conflicting things on this, it's crazy. I want to see this interview!

I'll bet the interview referred to in this BBC (not a disreputable news source) news item is the same interview.

Potter's Final Chapter Written

It does include this quote: "This really wrap everything, it's the epilogue and I basically say what happens to everyone after they leave school, those who survive - because there are deaths, more deaths coming." That is the quote I was trying to remember and get right earlier.

So in my complete and utter boredom I have been reading various websites and theories about Harry Potter.

There is one called The Changeling Hypothesis.

I haven't got all the way through it yet, but I don't think JKR is going to have something so complex in her book. She started writing these for children and if things get too complex in her books younger children just won't understand them.
The Changeling Hypothesis is so complex and over the top I have to say...ummm, no, never going to happen.

I can't remember which thread this was mentioned in because there have been a few already. BUT I got copies of Harry Schoolbooks (the Quidditch thru the ages and Fantastic Beasts...) on half.com the other day. Real cheap too. So if any of you are looking, try ebay and half.com. It is coming in the box set. Apparently Amazon has them for like $10 too. Just in case anyone was looking.

Does it take a really long time to load???? It keeps freezing my browser...

ETA: nevermind... it's IE on a Mac... Blah!

ETAA: Ok I just finished the Changeling... and I gotta say I have gone cross-eyed. It's so far fetched that it just might work. But yes Emily, I agree that I think a lot of young readers will be beyond lost it J.K suddenly went into the whole "Harry Potter is really Tom Riddle's soul... blah blah" story. Hell, it got me confused. Too much going back and forth.

And the whole story of Tom confuses me. I am re-reading GOF and you know how it goes into that whole story of the Riddle's in the beginning? It said that THREE people were killed that night. Tom's dad, Tom's mom, and Tom himself. However if Voldemort IS Tom... did he essentially kill himself? I guess that's where the whole "Voldemort is a spirit looking for a body" theory from the Changeling makes more sense. And so whatever soul inhabited Tom somehow got mixed up with Harry and yadda yadda yadda... oy... confused. Anyone care to shed light? I guess I need to re-read COS, but even then, the whole Tom/Voldy relationship still didn't clear up much.

So I have been wondering more about Harry's parents past... We know alot about Lilly but very little about James (as I recall, its been a while since I have read the books). I wonder if some of his family members will resurface.

Supposedly in the 6th and 7th books we will learn more about Lily and James and other members of his family (ie grandparents)

ETA: Here's a link some might find interesting

http://www.mugglenet.com/books/booksix/facts.shtml

I always took the 3 people dying to mean Tom R died metaphorically speaking. Tom was so upset that he ended one persona to become Voldemort. A conscienous change in the direction of who he would present to the rest of the world.

That's why I think that JKR isn't going to make it so complicated, because if I am confused you can damn well be sure that the little ones are going to be confused (or maybe I'm just not that smart, lol)

I think the ending will have a twist and be interesting, but I think she's going to keep it relatively simple, because oh my god, how much is she going to have to explain if she uses something like the Changeling Hypothesis?

I am definitly going to have to re-read PS/SS and CoS because I definitly feel like I am missing some vital information.

Also, has any one read the Harry Potter mysteries reveals books by Galadriel Waters?
I'm thinking I migh go pick one up today.

P.S There is another editor about the Changeling Hypothesis on Mugglenet.com under The North Tower.

This is what I was assuming, but the book mentioned it found 3 bodies. I guess an autopsy can't detect whether a body had a soul or not. :cool:

Since, Tom Riddle is a wizard, it leads me to believe that he would have an easier time faking his own death.
But then again, you could be right. An autopsy wouldn't be able to detect if a body had a soul or not. Tom Riddle's soul/spirit could have inhabited another body.

Wow, that Changeling hypothesis is really interesting, but I agree, it's way too complicated for a kid's book. I think parts of it are definitely true, though; it is quite obvious that part of Tom/Voldemort is instilled in Harry. So, I think that a simplified version of that hypothesis is quite likely.

Wasn't sure if this was answered.

A Kneazle is “a small catlike creature with flecked, speckled, or spotted fur, oversize ears, and a tail like a lion’s, the Kneazle is intelligent, independent, and occasionally aggressive, though if it takes a liking to a witch or wizard, it makes an excellent pet. The Kneazle has an uncanny ability to detect unsavory or suspicious characters and can be relied upon to guide its owner safely home if they are lost” from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. It can interbreed with cats.

No but I have The Hidden Key to Harry Potter by John Granger. It looks at the book series from the standpoint of serious literature. so says the jacket cover.

I also agree that the complex Changling Theory is way a bit much. We may see something simpler. All along in these books things are not always as they appear.

I always thought that the three people killed were Voldemort's father and grandparents. Since Voldemort's father ran away and his mother died giving birth to him, it wouldn't make much sense for them to be killed. :confused: I could be wrong though.

naw, Rowling said Black is officially dead and is not coming back.

check www.mugglenet.com its an excelent resource for media.
hplexicon is awesome too.

Voldie being a spirit searching for a body didn't happen until he tried to kill Harry.
the three people that were killed were Tom Riddle and his parents. But Voldemort wasn't killed, remember, he was named after his father.

the creeping black haired teenager was Voldemort/Tom and the home was that of his grandparents, where the senior Tom Riddle lived as well.

Tom's mom died long before that, and i don't think it was by tom's hand, and its because of her death that he's sent to a muggle orphanage.

sorry for the multiple posts all in a row.
im a harry potter fanatic, and i have a problem addiction.:D

Thanks for saying that, I was just about to. It goes into that in book 4. I definately think that anything involving people's souls getting mixed up is WAY too out there. I sometimes have to remind myself that these are meant to be kids books! LOL.

I really would love it if there was some way for Sirius to come back. I wanted to cry when he died. :( And, the whole archway thing that he fell through was so vague- maybe they will explain more about that in the next book.

As for their futures, I do think that Ron and Hermione might get together, but it also might be too obvious. I definately think that at least one of them will become an auror. And, I haven't been able to make up my mind whether Harry should be an auror or a Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. But, I do think that him becoming a teacher will suit him better, since he showed his talent for this in book 5.

It is so nice to find other people who are as involved in these books as I am! None of my friends seem to understand it. LOL.

And since we're talking about it, has anyone heard anything about WHEN book 6 will be coming out? I can't WAIT to find out what is gonna happen next. :)

Here's my take on James/Lily/Snape:

I think Snape was in love with Lily. When she married James, Snape became a Death Eater, but reversed that after Voldemort killed Lily (somewhere it was revealed that Snape had changed sides at the end).

Also note that what Harry saw in the pensieve was Snape's version - I don't think James was as horrible a person as it seemed, but it would certainly seem so from Snape's point of view.

Tha's interesting and it's a possibility, but I just don't know if I see Snape in love with Lily.

In Snape's pensive, when Lily tried to help him/talk to him after he was "dropped" by James, Snape was extremely rude to Lily and I just can't see someone who is in love with a person be extremely rude to them.

I think that all of these different people being in love with each other is a little too "soap opera" for Harry Potter. Most kidds who read the books aren't gonna care about all that, so I don't think she would work too much of that into it. I mean, look how little has been said in 5 books about the relationship between Harry, Ron, and Hermione, and which one she likes. I guess I just don't think the relationship between James, Lily, and Sirius was that involved. I don't think that Snape liked her, because he WAS very rude to her, calling her "mudblood" and stuff. It would be almost like Draco Malfoy falling in love with Hermione, and I just don't see that happening.

Lindz928, I just had to that I love Mame and that is one of my favorite quotes.

"LIVE! That's the message. Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death!"

WOW!! No one EVER knows what that's from! It's one of my grandmother's and my favorite movies. :)

In the BBC interview, Rowling states that Harry is going to take a romantic interest in Hermione...i think that if this happens, it would make a very interesting parallel to the James/Snape/Lily thing...

Snape calls Lily names because she's chose James over him, he's licking his wounds and feeling sorry for himself...even though she tries to help him, he calls her names to distance her and show her that he doesn't need her pity.

i think Neville's the key to this whole shabang...i hope that his character is even more developed in Book Six

I really hope Harry doesn't have feelings for Hermione.
I don't want a love triangle to develop and Ron ends up hating Harry because Harry like Hermione, even though hermione likes Ron (because we all know Ron is a bit clueless).

I agree. I do think Neville will have a mjor role in books 6 and 7. And I'm glad too, because Neville is my favourite.

i wonder, though, if that will be the lesson that Harry learns from Snape, to let go of the bitterness or something if Hermione chooses Ron...i do think that there's something there because i got that vibe while reading Ootp and kinda in GoF too...but then again, everyone was all up on Ginny and Harry way back in the day too...or maybe Hermione and Harry are destined to be together because James is so like Harry - popular, confident, athletic...

my question is, what's this Big Secret that's going to be revealed about Lily? Will it have to do with Snape? or is it something weirder?

But, in book 5, when Harry is in the pensive, he sees Snape calling Lily names... But, that was BEFORE James and Lily got together. I remember Harry wondering how his parents ever got together, because she seemed to dislike his father so much in those memories. So, Snape was mean to Lily before she ever chose James. I hope there is no kind of romance between Snape and Lily. I think that would just be too much of a stretch.

As far as Harry's romances go, I wish things had worked out better between him and Cho, I thought that was cute. :p

I also agree that Neville will be a big part in the future books. I think his talent as a wizard will start to come out and we will see that. In book 5, he already started showing what he can do with magic when he works hard. I would like to see him become stronger.

Which version? Auntie Mame (1958) with Rosalind Russell or Mame (1974) with Lucille Ball? I enjoy both versions but I prefer Lucille Ball. She cracks me up.

My opinion on Neville (and like I said before I agree that he will play a major role in the last books) is that Neville really has the talent to beome a great wizard, he just lacks confidence. he's always been compared to his father and I feel he thinks he can't live up to his father. I do think, Neville will be given the chance to shine and will do something great and improve his confidence and maybe be an even better wizard than his father.

i wonder if there's any credence to that rumor about Neville being the real destined opponent of Voldemort because of the fact that he shares a birthday with Harry...but then i feel like that would make the whole series a gigantic waste of time since it's leading up to an apparent showdown between Voldemort and Harry....P.S. if Hagrid dies, i will cry so much!!!

mistake on my part for the timing, but i think that the idea still stands...i mean, they were so young, maybe Snape wasn't confident about his romantic potential because he's obviously not a handsome knight in shining armor or anything...it's so kindergarteny, you know? a boy calls a girl "Stupidhead" because he secretly really likes her...

Possible book 6 Title???
 

Ok, so I've been checking Mugglenet.com periodically today, and early there was a rumor about Book 6 being titled Harry Potter and The Pillar of Storge (there's an accent on that "e"

Now apparently that rumor was posted on jkrowling.com, but it wasn't posted by her. So someone hacked into the site and posted it there.

Now there is a new title posted onJKRowling.com called Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince.

Don't know how true these are, but checkout Mugglenet.com and jkrowling.com

I don't think there will be anything to that. She spent way too much time in book 5 with Dumbledore explaining to Harry about Professor Trelawny's prediction. Harry even asks if it could have been a mistake, and the answer is no, because when Voldemort chose Harry as his target, he completed that part of the prediction, making it only possible for it to be about Harry.....

Sorry, I have read each book so many times that I remember the stupidest little details....




And I like the ony with Rosalind Russell, I'm not sure I've seen the one with Lucille Ball. I'm sure I would love it though cause she is one of my favorite funny ladies!

Re: Possible book 6 Title???
 

Ooh! You gave it away, lol.

Its behind the unopenable door on her site, that now has a brick wall-took me FOREVER to figure out how to open it. Theres just a piece of paper that says Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince.

I want to know when the book comes out!!!!

Re: Re: Possible book 6 Title???
 

Sorry ;)

I didn't have time to go through her webiste so I got it off mugglenet.com

I love Mame!! A couple of years ago I was in a local production of Mame and I played Agnes. It's one of my favorite roles!!
(ok so I hijacked this thread!):p

I have to chime in the Auntie Mame bandwagon, I love THAT movie....of course with Ms. Russel, I tried to watch the one with Lucille Ball (because I love her, but it just wasn’t the same, they changed Anges too much for me).

I don't know how many of you have been reading fanfiction, but I do a lot and sometimes its really hard to separate cannon with AU. For me sometimes I wish Draco would come over to the "good" side after the fall of his father, but I KNOW THAT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN...Draco is the witless foil of these stories, they usually don’t change sides during the stories.

As I was re-reading OoTP in preparation for PoA (I have crazy logic) and some questions have just keep popping in my head as I read it....please indulge me. This is also sort of a stream of consciousness thing, I wrote it as I was reading the book.

We know that JK is excellent with foreshadowing, she should teach a class, a perfect example:

Chapter 4 - Number 12 Grimmuld Place, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
The other's hushed voices were giving Harry an odd feeling of foreboding; it was as though they had just entered the house of a dying person.

I'm not sure if this has been discussed fully so I'm going to bring it up again...can meet worms.

Do you think part of what fueled Harry's anger towards Dumbledore is his connection to Voldermort? We see snippets of this throughout the book and the explanation at the end of OoTP, but in the very beginning we have no clue. I think Voldie old boy is using Harry at the very beginning of the book. This will lead to a break in the "Trio" in the later books and will lead to Ron to crossover, but will not stay there for long.

As for our dear Neville, I also think he will be very important and I'm starting to think that Ginny will be also. Again JK is a master of foreshadowing and this book is just chalked full of it.

IMO I think Harry was acting like a selfish child, yes a child with the weight of the world on his shoulders, but selfish nonetheless. I had very little sympathy for Harry at the beginning of the book but it grows at the end.

Yes, in very simplistic terms Harry is an abused child in one world and is a hero and worshipped in another world....when all he wants is to be normal and loved...classic makings of a very screwed up adult. Then he finds out it's killed or be killed. To me, this is no longer a children's story, not that I ever believed it was in the first place. Not that I want to shield children from reality, but still. I thought GoF and OoTP were dark, just imagine how book 6 & 7 are going to be. JK has said that in book 6 the war is in full force and all that it entails. This is going to be very bad and a lot of Deaths and most probably will be of characters we love.


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I hope I am remembering this correctly, but I think they mentioned in book 5 that they were pretty sure that Voldemort didn't realize that Harry could share his thoughts and feelings until the attack on Mr. Weasley. Before that, the connection was there, but Voldemort was unaware of it. I believe the feelings of hatred that Harry felt when he was near Dumbledore was simply that connection... he felt the way that Voldemort WOULD feel toward him if he were there. Does anyone else remember it that way?

Also, I have been looking through jkrowling.com and I can't find any of the secret stuff that is supposed to be there, like how to get past the door and stuff. Am, I just being stupid or am I missing something? :p

You're probably right, but I can't remember it at the moment. Even though Voldie may not be aware of it, he could have still transferred the feelings (I know grasping straws) ;).

One thing that I thought about after reading the above post and realizing after rereading OoTP....who is the spy? There is a spy in Voldie's camp and its not Snape he's too occupied with the students....but there is another spy...I don't remember when I realized it, it may be been during the second time that Harry "saw" the confrontation between Rookwood? and Voldie.

But there is someone and I hope its not Wormtail, but he will play an important part. Remember what Dumbledore said about the wizard debt that Wormtail owes to Harry, so maybe it can only be between the two of them. God forbid it be Lucious, he is just too irredemable.

Lilly is going to be very important to Harry's survival, we've seen it happen before, it may happen again. I think that is the foreshadowing that JK was referring to about PoA (the movie).

I haven't attempted to go to JK site and find the secret stuff.