So I didn't like his music at first, but then I actually listened to his rap on "Through the Wire" rather than the annoying chick in the background, and now I'm in love with "All Falls Down..."

"Man I promise, she's so self-conscious.
She has no idea what she's doing in college.
The major that she majored in don't make no money,
But she won't drop out, her parent's will look at her funny.
Now tell me that ain't insecure,
The concept of school seems so secure..."

Who in college can't relate to that?

Another of my favorite lines from that song, and CarolinaCutie loves it too...

"I wanna act ballerific, like it's all terrific.
I got a couple past due bills, I won't get specific.
I got a problem with spending before I get it..."

I am more offended by Kanye West as a college graduate and educator. I think his feelings about his college experience will negatively influence impressionable youth. I mean, alot of young people do not value education as it is, now here he comes.

The greek references were positive (although, I wish he included all of the D9 orgs in School Spirit).

Still, the CD is hot and in heavy rotation in my CD player.


***Wondering when Tom Earp is going to fall in to a drunken coma due to alcohol poisoning after the big keg party (isn't that what frat guys do?http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-034.gif)***

I've been to a Kanye West concert. I'm willing to bet the reason he "depledged" was because he dropped out of college before coming off line (I think that's what it's called? My bad if not.) If he left during the middle of this period, there's no way he'd get into whichever group he was trying to become a member of, assuming my knowledge of historically black fraternities is correct.

For those who have no clue who Kanye West is.

www.kanyewest.com

Why y'all in the know don't wanna educate folks who ain't heard of him?

'cause we are assuming that if you are on the internet, you have figured out how to use a search engine.

That's not the take I got from the responses. I thought the same thing, about the search engines, but if they ask a question why not answer the question so we can move the discussion along?

Hip Hop is not something that everyone may just want to research.

But that's just me. I like to answer questions.

The only thing I knew about him was that he was on MTV. I personally don't care for what I've heard on there, so I really don't know anything else about him. I don't think people are trying to shield others from Kanye West knowledge.

his cd college dropout is fabulous - if only for the fact that he has a picture of jamie foxx from high school in the sleeve and it's hilarious ;)

Just wanted to tell Delta Sig Stan to quit talking crap on my man Bill O'Reilly.

Dude, the guy's smart, quick witted, and I used to like him. But man, I've never heard anyone talk about rap as ignorantly as I have sometimes seen on the Factor.

Me three. :)

Is that really necessary? As a fellow educator, I would have expected you to take the high road there. :(

Yeah, that's the story of my life.

I willing to make the safe assumption that abaici was being sarcastic, hence the rolling eyes smilie. She knows that having keg parties is not the only thing that fraternity men involve themselves with.

Anyway, for those of you who are still confused as to Kanye West is, Laidbackfella posted the website. If you haven't purchased or listened to Kanye's CD, don't be so quick to make opinions on the man.

Kanye
 

WOW i haven't posted in a million and three years. Anyway i just had to post a response to what some ppl have said...


I don't know the song "Through the fire" someone said his latest song is a remake of that.... but it's more than that.... he did this def poetry thing called "self concious" and his song "through the wire" is that put to a beat... it's a very good song if you listen to the words

there is more to the line in "school spirit"
"Red and white One's, yeah that's my Kappa style
And I ain't even pledge"

SO i doubt that is the frat he "depledged" from or whatever.

Kanye is one of the most talented mainstream artists out there.... regardless of who or what he is bitter towards....

Okay i just had to say those things.....


"To the hustlas, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers
To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here hell yeah
Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly
I know he hear me when my feet get weary
Cuz we're the almost nearly extinct
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
Or here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way yall need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
And bring the day that I'm dreaming about
Next time I'm in the club everybody screaming out"

Oooh girl that's my life STORY right there... probably not somethin' to be proud of though :o

Right now I don't think I could EVER tire of Kanye. I'm still spinning the CD and playing all of the songs he chose not to put on there that are still superhot. He puts soul into things that otherwise could not be salvaged (ahem Brandy's new joint).

If you have not heard of Kanye, but you like rap music (which seems like an oxymoron of sorts but whatev), definitely check him out!

Someone can have my copy of his CD because I think sucks like a Hoover except for like 1 or 2 songs. :(

I think I'm just not feeling rap music anymore.

I agree with abaici's sentiments that he may be turning impressionable youth off from college. Not saying that college is the "end all, be all" but it does open up opportunities that our youth may otherwise never know.

Oh, back to the original question, I think the org was either Iota or KAY. :cool:

REPENT NOW!!!!! :p :p

You didn't read the same things that I was reading from previous posts.

Look back on the first page at the question texas*princess wrote and look at the responses she received. I didn't say that they were shielding.

But at least answer the woman's question.

LMAO. That's been happening for years. The stats show that MOST of our youth don't plan on going to college. They CANNOT get out of grade school (standardized tests, etc), so how are they going to college? They are interested (most) in FAST MONEY which does NOT equate with getting a BA, MA, JD, PhD.

Sad. But true. Kanye "dropping out" won't change that. They do see that a brotha dropped out and is "making it". I don't like that, but oh well. EVERYONE doesn't have TALENT like that, nor the resources to do so.

IMO, those who are going (those without a choice) will go, those who are not won't.

Re the title of this thread: Who said that Kanye pledged anything? The man and his writers are throwing out lyrics/rhymes. Who says it's true? It could be someone else's "story". :confused:

If he pledged and "depledged" COOL. If he didn't COOL.

Singing...
I been working grave shift....and I ain't made $#@$....

:D

i loooovvveee Kanye- i got his cd a few days ago and have been listening to it nonstop- i think he has a lot to say- not to mention the beats are freakin hot

has anyone listened to him talking near the end of the cd- i think that is so interesting

I don't like Kanye as a rapper....I just spent a semester analyzing his lyrics, and they are not very complex in my opinion. I only like a couple songs on his CD. Not to mention that he's conceited, arrogant, and discouraging a generation of Black men from attending college, which isn't very smart...

I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped line...But he isn't the first and he won't be the last...

I was trying to make a point. If that was lost on you, oh well.

ETA: Thank you FeeFee

All of your other comments, I agree with. The quotes around the word greeks were definitely unneccessary. But I don't think those of us in NPC/IFC realized that BGLO are considered businesses instead of houses. I'd always wondered (but didn't want to offend any of my friends) why the names of the Divine Nine contain the w ord Incorporated. Thanks for educating us! I'm sorry if anything in this post made me sound ignorant, I'm just not as familiar with the terminology of the NPHC organizations.

I don't think he did either. If the lyrics are about him, they clearly imply that he DID NOT pledge.

The "Inc." in our organizations' names has been discussed on these boards in the past, and a simple search should do the trick.:cool:

It wasn't lost on me, I just didn't think that it was necessary as what you had said previous to it was right on the ball.

actually, i think that was my little brother who posted it. i deleted it because those weren't my words. too bad GC doesn't have a page where you have to log on to, because i think it left a cookie when i logged on his computer.

I'm sorry you didn't think it was necessary.

Anyway,

Regarding Kanye and the whole greek thing. I want to know WHY he mentions greek life so much in music (on his CD and the Dilated Peoples song). Is he really jocking that part of college life, or did he know that if he mentions greeks he would have an instant audience? I heard people are using School Spirit for yard shows and what not (although, I question the gansta and pimp part of the hook).

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Blame it on your little brother. LOL

nah, man...really, i'm serious.

:( :D

IRONMANACE1963 GET YOUR PUNKA** IN HERE TO CLEAN IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or I would have heard about it

<----MADE in the midwest.

:rolleyes: The fact that you PROFILED Kanye West because he's a hip hop artist says a lot. Don't try to go back and ask for information as to who he is.

As much as I like Bill O'Reilly for SOME things...I'm gonna have to tell you like Ludacris told good ol' Bill:

"Blow it out your ass."

I feel ya, sisterfriend!!!

Okay...this is funny, to me. How about youth saw Bill Gates and thought "wow...a college drop-out is a billionaire...to hell with school."

Many rock stars for years have been anti-establishment, speaking out against school, and some have even promoted self-destructive and suicidal behaviors.

So, people need to give me a break in targeting hip hop artists for every damn thing. They aren't without fault, but let's talk about the artists in other genres who aren't serving as the best examples.

Yeah...Kanye is the "College Dropout," but people who have ANY type of guidance in their lives beyond music will be able to choose their paths accordingly.


Topic: I don't think Kanye dropped line or anything. His talking about BGLOs just means that BGLOs are very present on college campuses and in the black community. Unfortunately, we're only represented as being steppers, but I never heard his lyrics and felt like he was taking a jab at BGLOs or anything of the sort.

He or his writers probably wrote alot of this after the "Drumline" hype. :confused:

Do we know that he attended a university? If so, which one? Maybe that can answer some of the mystery. I'm sure if he tried to come through XYZ fraternity, someone (out there even the WWW) would come out of the woodworks saying..." Yeah, Kanye this or Kanye that..."

I bet in the Fall you will see many greeks using his music in their shows, marching bands will play his music. Bascially, it's an untouched market. Kudos to the marketing team. Shucks, look at the discussion taking place on GC. I'm sure this discussion isn't limited on the internet @ GC either.

;)

My Sorors have already used the "she's a Delta, so she's been throwin' that Dynasty Sign" as an intro for a couple of stepshows and yardshows.

You're right, though:

College-life and BGLOs sell records and brings attention to the artist (i.e. Jay-Z having the Alphas stepping in "99 problems"). Kanye's writing about what he's seen. I can understand the curiosity of some of the posters in this thread, but I don't think this is a Matlock Mystery. :D

LOL @ Matlock Mystery.

I guess this same discussion would have taken place in the 90s with Chubb Rock and the Omegas, ole boy's "Just a Friend" video with the Kappas...Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby" and the Alphas etc. etc.

Oh well. At least we can have a civil discussion. :D