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sageofages 05-16-2004 10:37 PM

The other side of the coin
 
Let's look at it from other perspectives (to play the devil's advocate).....

HOW would it effect your GLO to have a famous/celebrate member who is technically still a member in good standing, but wants NOTHING to do with your organization (while not relinquishing their membership)? Phi Mu has at least one reknown individual I know of who has flat out said to our NC "I want nothing to do with Phi Mu, so don't bug me". ugh...

What about the celebrity who would like to attend functions, etc but would really end up "mobbed" for lack of a better word? How do they reconcile their celebrity with the desire to be "just another sister" and not drawn untoward attention at a function?

I can imagine lending the "I am a member" voice (ala Katie Couric) is as big a help as they might feel truly comfortable lending.

Imperial1 05-16-2004 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
*whispering*

she's heard of it...she's a Zeta. i think she's talking about russ's frat.

*THROWS HANDS UP*

Good gawd some people just don't get it. *smh*

Imperial1

Imperial1 05-16-2004 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Originally posted by Imperial1
How da fukk is what I said ignorant based on what I know from NPHC? As far as your org goes, I ain't never heard of it and could care less who's a famous member of your org. It must not be that important to them, cause the majority of the famous ones in my org that actually pledged represent my org to the fullest. Sorry you're so "offended" that members of OTHER orgs happen to become honorary.


Imperial1Wow, what great class you have.

Ok, time for Imperial to come and yell at me now.


And I may be wrong but I don't think Colonel Sanders actually pledged. He was a special initiate at Alpha Eta chapter (Florida). Oh...hey speaking of famous Pikes, how about your UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT!!!! J. Michael Ortiz baby.

As far as Tim McGraw. This guy loves PiKA like no other. He loved it so much, he participated in the initiation of his father (Tug). Oh yeah, and it helps when he sends thousands upon thousands to his chapter.

Yell at you? Who are you? :confused:

Imperial1

KellyB369 05-17-2004 12:10 PM

I know that Jim Goodnight CEO, Chairman, Co-founder and President of SAS was very financially involved in building the new house for the TKEs on the NCSU campus. I don't know exactly how involved he is personally, as far as visiting the chapter, etc. I think that financial involvement is better than no involvement at all and I'm guessing that someone as busy at Goodnight does not have a lot of time to be personally involved.

Firehouse 05-17-2004 02:12 PM

Phi Mu and Pikes
 
To the lady who asked about Ann Bowden and Phi Mu: Yes, I think she is active with the sorority. I was told that she was president of Phi Mu at the same time Coach Bowden was president of Pike, and they were married at the time.
Bobby-the-Don, you are right about Col Sanders: his son was an undergrad at Florida and the Col was an honorary initiate.
Thi is a good story about an FSU alum. He's not famous but he is rich, which is almost as good as famous. Harry Sargeant, Jr owns the largest fleet of ocean-going oil tankers in the world. He is an FSU Pike ('78) and his son Harry III is an '03 initiate. Harry wrote a check for the lead gift to build the chapter's new house. And, when he was in China last year pursuing an oil deal, he noticed his Chinese host had an old, vintage firetruck. Harry made that part of the deal, shipped the 1938 Chevvy back to the States for a full restoration job, then had it transported secretly to Tallahassee where it was his surprise gift to the chapter at groundbreaking.

Tex1899 05-17-2004 02:41 PM

"Thi is a good story about an FSU alum. He's not famous but he is rich, which is almost as good as famous. Harry Sargeant, Jr owns the largest fleet of ocean-going oil tankers in the world. He is an FSU Pike ('78) and his son Harry III is an '03 initiate. Harry wrote a check for the lead gift to build the chapter's new house. And, when he was in China last year pursuing an oil deal, he noticed his Chinese host had an old, vintage firetruck. Harry made that part of the deal, shipped the 1938 Chevvy back to the States for a full restoration job, then had it transported secretly to Tallahassee where it was his surprise gift to the chapter at groundbreaking."

...that is cool!!!

shadokat 05-17-2004 02:48 PM

I could be wrong, but I think that Sela Ward is still very active with Chi Omega. I've seen her in the Eleusis a few times.

sigtau305 05-17-2004 02:57 PM

Re: Famous Greeks... a different kinda thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I was curious about this. We all know there are tons of famous Greeks, but how many of these famous Greeks are still involved with their organizations?

Please don't post "hey so and so is a so and so". I don't care--- there are already tons of threads about that. I wana know who is still involved directly or indirectly and what they do.

Jack Haugland, CEO of Greyhound Bus Lines, has given price Breaks for any Sig-Tau Chapter that Ships their Boxes of Kids' Books to the National Convention for Our Books For Kids Philanthropy.

SurfinDBeach 05-17-2004 03:32 PM

That's awesome...
 
That's awesome that Goodnight helped build that new house at NCSU!

Lucky bastards!!! That brand bew house is worth over 3 million dollars - I saw pictures on their website - DAMN that house is SICK AS HECK!!! With a friggin parking lot of its own too! :cool:
http://www.beta-beta.org/main.html

That and our chapter at Georgia Tech really are insane! Georgia Tech has friggin social quarters and a full dormitory on a complex which houses every brother with full high speed internet and availible meal plans! :eek:
www.betapitke.org/facils.html




GO BEACH!!!

Tex1899 05-17-2004 06:47 PM

Doesn't Paul Newman contribute a portion of his food sales to Phi Tau's Hole in the Wall Gang?

Seems like more famous alums lend their name and wallet than their time. I'm happy with that, and if they can lend their time, then that's even better.

PhiPsiRuss 05-17-2004 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperial1
How da fukk is what I said ignorant based on what I know from NPHC? As far as your org goes, I ain't never heard of it and could care less who's a famous member of your org. It must not be that important to them, cause the majority of the famous ones in my org that actually pledged represent my org to the fullest. Sorry you're so "offended" that members of OTHER orgs happen to become honorary.

Imperial1

I guess your mastery of the English language proves that you're not ignorant.:rolleyes:

My fraternity doesn't need to degrade itself by initiating men who acheived greatness independent of the influence of Phi Psi.

Your broad generalization is a falicy. My guess is that its false for NPHC GLOs as well, but I just don't have the interest to do the research. Its already been shown to be false for Alpha Phi Alpha.

MysticCat 05-18-2004 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Imperial1
The real question should've been how many of those famous members are still active in their orgs.
Ummm. If you go back and read the first post, you'll see that was the question posed.

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I was curious about this. We all know there are tons of famous Greeks, but how many of these famous Greeks are still involved with their organizations?

Please don't post "hey so and so is a so and so". I don't care--- there are already tons of threads about that. I wana know who is still involved directly or indirectly and what they do.


xo_kathy 05-18-2004 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadokat
I could be wrong, but I think that Sela Ward is still very active with Chi Omega. I've seen her in the Eleusis a few times.
You are correct! She is the spokesperson for (and I *think* first contributor to) our 1895 Society - part of the foundation that aids in leadership development and such.

I also know Pat Head Summit has spoken at Convention and been honored with our Woman of the Year award.

Paging NutBrn for the REAL info!!!! ;)

Imperial1 05-18-2004 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
I guess your mastery of the English language proves that you're not ignorant.:rolleyes:

My fraternity doesn't need to degrade itself by initiating men who acheived greatness independent of the influence of Phi Psi.

Your broad generalization is a falicy. My guess is that its false for NPHC GLOs as well, but I just don't have the interest to do the research. Its already been shown to be false for Alpha Phi Alpha.

I guess your mastery of "message board slang" proves that you are too pressed to talk to me. :rolleyes:

Imperial1

Imperial1 05-18-2004 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MysticCat81
Ummm. If you go back and read the first post, you'll see that was the question posed.
Um, Okay.

Imperial1

Munchkin03 05-18-2004 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tex1899
Doesn't Paul Newman contribute a portion of his food sales to Phi Tau's Hole in the Wall Gang?

100% of Newman's Own profits go to charitable causes, with the Hole in the Wall Gang as the largest single beneficiary. I thought, however, that he owned the camp.

fijijr 05-18-2004 07:32 PM

Ken Blanchard FIJI Cornell '61 Coauthor of The One Minute Manager just completed working with the International Headquarters on Phase I "Taking the lead when you are not in charge" of a three phase project that focuses on leadership education for members.
Stuart Evey one of the founders of ESPN also sat on the fraternity's Board of Directors

Betarulz! 05-18-2004 10:24 PM

Senator Richard Lugar is still very active with Beta Theta Pi and currently serves as the spokesman for the Men of Principle Initiative. I wouldn't be suprised to see his face show up on some more of our Upon these Principles capital campaign too.

Lugar is also very present at Convention, usually helping to hand out awards and pose for pictures with the winners.

One thing that Beta has begun in the past couple of years is the creation of our Francis W. Shepardson award for alumni contribution. This is an award that directly recognizes the support alumni give to Beta, while our Oxford Cup award recognizes achievement outside the fraternity.

MysticCat 05-19-2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
100% of Newman's Own profits go to charitable causes, with the Hole in the Wall Gang as the largest single beneficiary. I thought, however, that he owned the camp.
He does. He started it and named it after Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid's gang (much like Kappa Sigma's Robert Redford named his film festival "Sundance").

Newman is a Phi Kappa Tau, so I always assumed that connection was why they adopted it as their philanthropy.

thermobryan 05-21-2004 02:34 AM

Re: Phi Mu and Pikes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Firehouse
And, when he was in China last year pursuing an oil deal, he noticed his Chinese host had an old, vintage firetruck. Harry made that part of the deal, shipped the 1938 Chevy back to the States for a full restoration job, then had it transported secretly to Tallahassee where it was his surprise gift to the chapter at groundbreaking.
Damn...Love being a Pike, thats a sick story...

Oh, and i know you'll love this one Starang21, Strom Thurmon, may he rest in peace, was a pike...

ASU-TEKE 05-21-2004 04:05 AM

Honorary members
 
I know of only a few famous honorary Tekes, but the one that sticks in my mind the most is adult film star "Ron Jeremy." If you do not believe me watch Ron Jeremy's movie "Porn Star: the documentry of Ron Jeremy." Its a true documentry of Ron Jeremy's life and fifteen minutes of the movie is about the San Diego State Teke chapter throwing a party at their house just after initiating him. Even though he isn't the most active, its just bad-ass to have him as a brother.

AOII_LB93 05-21-2004 09:00 AM

Re: Honorary members
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ASU-TEKE
I know of only a few famous honorary Tekes, but the one that sticks in my mind the most is adult film star "Ron Jeremy." If you do not believe me watch Ron Jeremy's movie "Porn Star: the documentry of Ron Jeremy." Its a true documentry of Ron Jeremy's life and fifteen minutes of the movie is about the San Diego State Teke chapter throwing a party at their house just after initiating him. Even though he isn't the most active, its just bad-ass to have him as a brother.
Not attacking, but badass just because he's in the porn industry? I mean have you seen the amount of hair on his back? It's like a sweater.:o I don't know, I guess I wouldn't be too thrilled about counting a porn star/producer in among my members, but maybe that is because I am a female, simply because of the "ick" factor and because it's not in line with our ideals and ritual.

Lady Pi Phi 05-21-2004 11:15 AM

Re: Re: Honorary members
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AOII_LB93
Not attacking, but badass just because he's in the porn industry? I mean have you seen the amount of hair on his back? It's like a sweater.:o I don't know, I guess I wouldn't be too thrilled about counting a porn star/producer in among my members, but maybe that is because I am a female, simply because of the "ick" factor and because it's not in line with our ideals and ritual.
I have to agree here.
You'd be hard pressed to find any NPC group wanting to initiate Jenna Jameson.

GeekyPenguin 05-21-2004 11:53 AM

Discussion on Ron Jeremy in the TKE forum

He's not officially recognized by TKE HQ, the chapter did this as a rogue act.

PM_Mama00 05-21-2004 12:47 PM

Hi guys it's me again, you know the thread starter who asked WHAT THESE FAMOUS PEOPLE DO FOR THEIR CHAPTERS AND ORGANIZATIONS and that I don't care who is in what? If you really feel like posting those bragging rights, do a search and you'll find about TEN different threads.

Please stick to the friggin topic. It's the same person who keeps just posting people!

Erik P Conard 05-21-2004 05:04 PM

Dutch Reagan--TKE
 
I feel sorry for the brain-dead poster who questioned Reagan's
fraternity involvement.
If anyone at Ohio State will recall, he invited ALL Greek presidents
to have lunch with him at the Teke house.
Countless TKE chapters welcomed him on their campus and he often used Tekes as crowd control volunteers. Throughout his
life, the 30s on, he was an enthusiastic Greek as was his sibling
John Neil Reagan, both presidents of TKE at Eureka (IL) College.
Walgreen, 98, a U Mich TKE, has held TKE national office and has
seemingly forever been a benefactor and STILL IS!
Lloyd Balfour, Sigma Chi, left them a chunk of bucks in gratitude
for buying his jewelry...and Milton Caniff, with his "Steve Canyon"
strip...and David Letterman....and countless others...have given
a lot to the greeks. Even the Tekes own Iowa State grad...who
has a little outfit...little only in name...called 'Hooters."
And the beloved Barney Fife, a very, very gifted actor, is an avid
Phi Sigma Kappa'' And so on and so on....
Lordy...you-all can easily add to this embraceable list.
And to the poster who questioned the headliners' involvement,
get your head out of your you-know-what....
I have given of my time and ?talents? to TKE for over forty years,
but nobody knows me....think I'll go eat worms. Uncle E

Tom Earp 05-21-2004 05:18 PM

While the list are long and luminous, those that have are out shined by those who havent. Gene Bicknell, The Pizza King, ask Unky E about him!?

It still goes back to the 80-20 or in most cases the 90-10! That is the percentages of Members who keep up with Chapters and Greek Organizations.:(

We of the poor few are the ones who give the most, not the I am So and So, with a lot of money:o

LXA has many Famous People as do all of us, but, My question is, how many who are big time really give back?:confused:

PM_Mama00 05-21-2004 11:04 PM

Re: Dutch Reagan--TKE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
I feel sorry for the brain-dead poster who questioned Reagan's
fraternity involvement.
If anyone at Ohio State will recall, he invited ALL Greek presidents
to have lunch with him at the Teke house.
Countless TKE chapters welcomed him on their campus and he often used Tekes as crowd control volunteers. Throughout his
life, the 30s on, he was an enthusiastic Greek as was his sibling
John Neil Reagan, both presidents of TKE at Eureka (IL) College.
Walgreen, 98, a U Mich TKE, has held TKE national office and has
seemingly forever been a benefactor and STILL IS!
Lloyd Balfour, Sigma Chi, left them a chunk of bucks in gratitude
for buying his jewelry...and Milton Caniff, with his "Steve Canyon"
strip...and David Letterman....and countless others...have given
a lot to the greeks. Even the Tekes own Iowa State grad...who
has a little outfit...little only in name...called 'Hooters."
And the beloved Barney Fife, a very, very gifted actor, is an avid
Phi Sigma Kappa'' And so on and so on....
Lordy...you-all can easily add to this embraceable list.
And to the poster who questioned the headliners' involvement,
get your head out of your you-know-what....
I have given of my time and ?talents? to TKE for over forty years,
but nobody knows me....think I'll go eat worms. Uncle E

UMMM I would be that brain-dead poster and you odn't have to be an ass about it. I asked what Ronald Reagan did for 1- because that was the point of this thread, and 2- sorry for being so IGNORANT that I didn't keep up with Ronald Reagan's Greek activity. Wow much apologies. :rolleyes:

starang21 05-21-2004 11:17 PM

Re: Re: Phi Mu and Pikes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by thermobryan
Damn...Love being a Pike, thats a sick story...

Oh, and i know you'll love this one Starang21, Strom Thurmon, may he rest in peace, was a pike...

hot damn, my name is in all of the posts. are you guys that intimidated by me that you guys think about me that much? so a known racist is a pike? beautiful. he also has a black daughter.

BobbyTheDon 05-22-2004 09:48 PM

he was special initiated. never pledged.

KSigkid 05-22-2004 11:24 PM

Bob Dole and Sam Donaldson were both members on an alumni board for Kappa Sigma and, from what I've heard, keep tabs on how things are going in the fraternity. Dole spoke at the University of Arizona house when he was campaigning. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has also assisted the fraternity at times from what I understand.

There's an actor who spoke at Conclave when I went in 2001, but I can't remember his name...seems he was at least marginally famous though, maybe someone can help me out.

Some of the other famous members (Rick Barry for one) did bit parts in rush videos that the fraternity put out.

I'm probably missing some, but those are the ones that come to mind.

ETA: Nice job on the mention of Redford as a Kappa Sig...I often forget that he's a brother.

TSteven 05-22-2004 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
Dole spoke at the University of Arizona house when he was campaigning.
Bob Dole is always talking about being a Kappa Sigma. And has for many years.

When he was running for Vice President in 1976, he visited the University of Kentucky campus and made a "secret" stop by the Kappa Sigma house. No press, no advanced notice. One of the reasons it was secret was that he just wanted to "hang out" with the chapter. And for security reasons as well. Of course the next day, the whole campus was abuzz about it. All he and the UK Kappa Sigmas would say when questioned about his visit to the house was to confirm that he was there. :cool:

While running for President in 1996, he returned to UK and this time, made a more public point of visiting the Kappa Sigma house. I think he may have also given a speech from there as well.

TSteven 05-23-2004 12:14 AM

Here is what a few members of Sigma Chi Fraternity have had to say publicly.

Note: Most of these quotes are used for recruitment. However, most of these Sigs - if not all - have been involved with the Fraternity in additional ways as well.


David Letterman, Ball State '69
Television Host of 'The Late Show'

"When I became a Sigma Chi it was great; I was very proud of the association. It was kind of an instant confidence builder for me... It was a really good social experience, and for me also a social maturation and a great benefit."


Tom Selleck, Southern California '80
Television and Motion Picture Actor

"I made some very long-lasting friendships with Sigs in college... and are very valuable to me. The Fraternity has meant a lot to me, and the Ritual is very, very meaningful to me."


Jim Palmer, Arizona State '76
ABC-TV sportscaster, previously American League's best pitcher for three years and recently voted into the Hall of Fame

"You have to be honest, have integrity, be able to cooperate and get along with other people. Sigma Chi is a great place to learn that and that's why it's a great thing to join this fraternity."


Bob Griese, Purdue '67
TV sportscaster and former Miami Dolphins quarterback.

"Our initiations weren't a hell-raising type of thing; Sigma Chis were above that type of thing. They are interested more in what's inside your mind than in what's inside your gut. My Fraternity days in college were worthwhile and memorable."


Mike Ditka, Pittsburgh '61
NFL Head Coach New Orleans Saints
NBC Sportscaster, former head Coach - Chicago Bears

"What you do in life by your self doesn't mean as much as what you accomplish with a group of people. Sigma Chi was one of the greatest things that happened to me. I really appreciate what it has done for and to me. I know what it has done for men in my lifetime, and I can continue to give something back to it."


Merlin Olsen, Utah State '62
Television Actor and Sportscaster
Pro Football Hall of Fame

"There is no question that my Sigma Chi experience has had a tremendous impact on my career, professionally, and on my life."


J. Willard Marriott, Jr. Utah '54
President of the Marriott Corporation, the second largest food and lodging firm in the U.S.

"The key to our business is people skills. Sigma Chi helps you learn better people relationships, to get along with others, and also teaches the importance of honesty and integrity."


James Barksdale, Mississippi '65
CEO, Netscape Communications

"It's tough hiring good people. It's always a great testament to a man if on his resume it says he's a Sigma Chi."


Lod Cook, L.S.U. '49
CEO, ARCO

"What has impressed me throughout the years is that I have never met a Sigma Chi whom I didn't think was a special person. I am proud to be a Sigma Chi."

KSigkid 05-24-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TSteven
Bob Dole is always talking about being a Kappa Sigma. And has for many years.

When he was running for Vice President in 1976, he visited the University of Kentucky campus and made a "secret" stop by the Kappa Sigma house. No press, no advanced notice. One of the reasons it was secret was that he just wanted to "hang out" with the chapter. And for security reasons as well. Of course the next day, the whole campus was abuzz about it. All he and the UK Kappa Sigmas would say when questioned about his visit to the house was to confirm that he was there. :cool:

While running for President in 1996, he returned to UK and this time, made a more public point of visiting the Kappa Sigma house. I think he may have also given a speech from there as well.

He actually also made a comment to Sam Donaldson on an appearance on one of his shows. Towards the end of the show Donaldson said "You must come back to visit sometime," and Dole replied "Of course, Kappa Sigs gotta stick together."

Whatever people think of Dole, he is genuinely proud to be a Kappa Sig, which I appreciate.

caz815nupike 06-21-2004 05:04 AM

yea, I've seen quite a few pics and stories on the net with Pikes such as Rick Dees (along with his son, a Gamma Eta [USC] Pike) and Tim McGraw showing their support for PiKA...

but on a side note....but not really...

yea, this is kinda random, cuz I don't think anyone who has posted here has been an Omega, or an NPHC greek...but it's still on topic...and kinda funny/cool

I know Shaq openly and continually supports Omega Psi Phi. There are a number of recent photos I've seen of him repping his letters on a baseball cap...

recently on MTV's Cribs, they did Shaq's house, and he was going through his lil "Hall of Fame" -- up on the wall he had a framed Omega football jersey and said proudly, "Yea, I'm a Q-Dogg!! WOOF!"

haha, I thought it was cool cuz well, he's a LAKER and years after college, he still proudly reps his org., as he should....

how funny how he went on to win back-to-back-to-back championships with the team who sports the same colors as his GLO....

and of couse, its not only about shout-outs...my friend will be pledging Omega soon back east, and his grandfather is an Omega...I've talked to them in the past and he's always talkin about how much moral, as well as financial, support Shaq still offers...

k..thats enough...u just had to see Shaq's facial expression when he did his "Yea, I'm a Q-Dogg!! WOOF!" thing...and he put his arms up...like i guess forming an upside down Omega, I've seen them do this b4...i think thats what it's supposed to signify

k...enough with my rambling...PEACE

KSigkid 06-21-2004 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by caz815nupike

I know Shaq openly and continually supports Omega Psi Phi. There are a number of recent photos I've seen of him repping his letters on a baseball cap...


There was actually an article in ESPN the Magazine (more like a sidebar) focusing in on a couple of Greeks in pro sports, and Shaq was pretty eloquent in his pride in being an Omega.

hoosier 06-21-2004 05:26 PM

Michael Moore
 
Has any GLO claimed Michael Moore?

EpsilonKappaAXi 06-21-2004 05:30 PM

If it were my GLO, and Michael Moore was a member, I would be ashamed and there would be no way I would say he's a famous alum.

Shelacious 06-21-2004 05:42 PM

Phi Beta Sigma
 
Although I'm not a Sigma, I recall that Emmitt Smith (Dallas, Arizona, and wherever) has always been kind and supportive to Sigmas and Zetas.

lyrelyre 06-21-2004 05:44 PM

Condoleeza Rice was the featured speaker at the last Alpha Chi Omega convention.


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