I'm glad this thread was bumped, 'cause I wanted to add that I've done some field research, and my conclusion is . . . boys only like me when I'm ugly.

Every single time I've hooked up this summer, I was wearing jeans and a tee shirt and next to no makeup, and more often than not my hair looked like isht. (I have guy friends who are in the habit of saying, "Okay, you're coming out to the bars with us. We'll pick you up in ten minutes.") And every time I took the time to get all dolled up? No play.

I'm just sayin'.

sugar and spice- you are SO right on this one! And this thread has made me realize this even more.... From now on, I'm going to be comfortable when I go out.... And if that means walking down 6th street in a t-shirt and jeans, then so be it. I think it will do the trick. I'll test this later on this week and report back. ;)

I haven't read this whole thread but would like to comment. I have a close friend who is beautiful. She knows it and everyone around her knows it. However, she has obvious issues with self-esteem and is really really picky when it comes to guys. If HE is not drop dead gorgeous she won't give him the time of day, but complains that she can't find a good boyfriend. She has been dating a guy for the past year that is gorgeous in her eyes but treats her like crap. She always tries to get people to set her up but we've all given up after the way she treats guys. There are other issues at hand with her but this is about looks, so I will not post them. I also have another friend that is very pretty and all the boys like her. She can never seem to keep a boyfriend though and I've heard from some of the past boys in her life the reason for this is because she comes on too strong from the beginning. So I guess even really hot girls have issues too, is what I guess I am trying to say.

i heard the real good looking ones aren't too good in bed because they're too prissy to do the freaky stuff...any takers?

Good looking and prissy are NOT the same thing.... You can find girls who are one but not the other. Take that as you will. :)

i'm serious, though...i've heard that a 10 will be boring, but a 7 will put it on you.

You know it's funny but the same thing happens to me. The times in my life when I've been most blatantly hit on I was at work in some baggy uniform shirt and no makeup or, like you said, went out to get a drink in whatever I was already wearing. I won't try to say I know what that means but it's really strange.

I don't know about this. Whenever I go out with my one sister Lindsay, I regularly have guys come up to me and say "you know her? she is the most beautiful girl i've ever seen" and then head right up to her. My old roommate was also a living Barbie and she NEVER had a problem getting guys who are usually "one night" type of guys, to start dating her.
I really really dont think guys are too intimidated by gorgeous girls...maybe some, but mostly...no.

My bf told me that he only asked out really great looking women because most guys are too intimidated to ask them out. I really love him for saying that. :)

Well, I guess since I'm a girl I can't really answer this question accurately... I only know about me. I guess you would have to ask some of my exes. :p

The reason I can't get a date is because I am too beautiful.

That is what I tell myself.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm completely disinterested in the type of girls you seem to be describing. They're nice to look at at, but I have a habit of making a lot of snap judgements about their personality that would prevent me from ever wanting to date them. It's not right, but it's how people work (whether or not they're willing to admit it). When I see a full-armored 9 or 10 I'm going to come up with reasons not to waste my time. First and foremost I'm going to assume she is shallow. And not your everyday type of shallow almost all of us are guilty of. I mean image is priority number one type shallow. "If the looks, clothes, car, and money aren't right, nothing is" type of shallow. Image is nothing, I'd much rather obey my thirst and talk to the less attractive but more interesting-looking girl who is less likely to run off when she finds out I don't drive a BMW. Next I'm going to think that she not only can do better than me, but will at the first given opportunity. I place myself at a 7, there's no way I'm going to think the better-than-avaerage looking woman will be sincerely interested in an average looking man. I'm not gonna be the one to keep her entertained while she's looking for a chance to trade me in for a better guy. I know what's in and out of my league; why should I expect her to drop down to my level without an ulterior motive. Finally I'm going to think she has the typical "really hot girl" personality. If I ask her what her favorite song is, she'll list something easily found on the radio. If I ask what type of music she listens to she'll say "all types." It's one thing to happen to like all the current trends in pop culture, but it's something else to have that be all you know. Since I'm not a one night kind of guy the really hot girls are unfairly written off to me as little more than eye candy that make the bar/club/party club better. A lot of my friends feel this way too but I can't really speak for them since they ARE one-night guys who have no problem going after a perfect 10.

Having said all that, my guess is that if girls that are so hot it's intimidating want to have more than a hook up, they're going to have to be the ones to work for it. Because the guys that are worth dating already think they have no chance for whatever reasons and the guys that hit on you are only after one thing. Harsh reality but it's true. It's in no way right, but it's how things work. Unless a 10 comes up and starts kicking ass from the start, my guess is most guys won't think she's datable. Doable: yes. Extended booty call: sure thing. Actual relationship material: probably not. Not only will a 7 put it on you to compete with 10's, but life has forced her to rely on her personality more. Not fair but c'est la vie.

That f*cking sucks. I don't like thinking that just because I may be attractive, that I have to be the one to go out and chase after guys. I am the kind of girl who likes to be approached, and I try to make myself appear approachable by body language and such. I realize you said this, but damn that's so not fair!

Before anyone goes reading too much into that, I am not saying that I'm a 9 or 10 or anything by ANY means, but I do think that I am reasonably attractive. I would really hate to think that it may be one of the main reasons that I am single.

Tonight, I was at a party and a guy went to a friend of mine to tell him that he thought I was really cute, yet he didn't even bothere to come and talk to me. WHY??? :confused:

Well if you want to go ahead and generalise beautiful girls by how they perform in bed, you might come up disappointed. Some will be up there, but there will be averages and even lower. Not all pretty girls are sex-goddesses nor are all average girls either.


A good explanation to your theory might be that maybe they just don't sleep around, therefore less experienced.

i guess that's one of those generalizations that men that i've hung out with thrown around. i'm not sure if it's true or not, but a lot of guys i know think taht. like the best lookin ones are among the lamest, boring ones out there. i heard the regular lookin woman will be more apt to try new things, vs. the extra fine ones. case in point....i heard halle berry doesn't go down town. i think the logic is that since they're more attractive, they can get away with doing less.

That's why I buy prostitutes a lot.

-Rudey