Well, in a previous thread I posted about the PNM who kept talking to herself throughout FR. Apparently, she is in a class with my roommate. My roomie did not realize this b/c it's a large class in a lecture hall. She only found out b/c she had the sensation of being stared at & realized that Psycho Suzie was sitting near her & couldn't keep her eyes off her letters. Everytime my roomie has that class, this gal sits near her & stares. She text messages me a lot during this time b/c the girl is starting to freak her out.

Maggie, that's ironic that you told that story, because my suitmate freshmen year did almost the exact same thing. She didn't get a bid from the GLO she wanted (I don't remember what group), and she dropped out of school before spring term began.

And btw, they don't sell Greek stuff at the bookstore anymore :(

/end hijack

This is so weird because I know a girl who did sort of the same thing! She went to a school nearby that some of my friends attended, and she lived on their hall. Well freshmen year they all went through recruitment together and this girl (I will call her Sarah) fell in love with XYZ, which was a good sorority on campus. They weren't considered any bad stereotypes and were just pretty normal and average good girls, so it wasn't one that I had heard of people practically going psycho over (at least as far as I could tell from the image I get when visiting campus). Well she goes through and gets a bid to XYZ, which is another really good group on campus and one that I have friends in. She tried it out and decided it just was not for her and depledged so she could go though formal next year which was a smart move...

Fast forward to next year when her pi chi, rho chi, (whatever you call them at your school!) calls her in after second rounds and tells her that ABC didn't ask for her back, but three other groups (ALL really good, and one considered "super popular") DID! Well "Sarah" freaked out in the room, threw HER chair, she MADE her Pi Chi call the sorority to make sure it wasnt a mistake and that she KNEW they asked her back. Well finally they did get ahold of the girls and they said it hadnt been a mistake and they hadnt asked her back! Sarah freaked out, left the room and was not seen from for three days. She finally came back and did not talk about it with anyone... but my friends have heard she wants to go through recruitment AGAIN to see if the girls will take her.

The weird thing is she hung out with the girls all year and everyone thought she would automatically get asked there.... It makes you wonder what happened with this group that others would ask her back, but not the group of girls she wanted so badly!

Yes, and sometimes it is something as stupid as "I used to date her older brother and we had a bad break-up and I wouldn't want him coming over here to visit" or "she really wants to get involved in intermurals, and our chapter doesn't really participate."

My sorority has definately had our share of psycho stalkers!!
The year I went through 2 girls fell in love with my soroity and ended up getting tattoos while we were still going through rush! They showed my now sisters and it really freaked them out. They ended up going a different sorority!!!

Another girl on my campus who was in a diffferent sorority liked us more than her own sorority. Since the day she pledged she has bragged about how she loves my sorority better than hers. She even rushed girls for us!! Her sorority ended up asking her to quit.

:confused: Were the tattoos specific to your org? I wonder what the sorority they ended up joining thought f that.:eek:

Sorry!! I didn't specify the tattoos! Yes they were of our symbols!!!

Wow. I can't believe they found time and energy to do anything in the evenings after those recruitment parties!

I can't imagine ever getting a tattoo, so to be so cavalier as to get ones during recruitment with symbols of sororities in the hopes you'll get a bid.... wow! Not terribly well thought-out.

Maybe they could fix it to say Wino Forever.

LOL at 33, but I think it could depend on the girl and chapter. Say I am Irish, and I get a shamrock...doesn't mean I want to go KD. I happen to know a ton of people with turtles, dolphins, moons, etc. However, you get a fleur-de-les or something, that is weird.

Unless you got the tatoo specifically when you were rushing, I don't think a fleur-de-lis tattoo would be that weird. I know that some people just like them and think that they're pretty. There's a little store in Jackson Heights, Queens that's one of those pricey card/candle/gift stores and the woman has fleur-de-lis EVERYWHERE. There's even a fleur-de-lis on the store's business card. I asked the owner of the store if she's a Kappa one time when I was in there and she just looked at me like I had 5 heads and asked me what Kappa is. Turns out she didn't go to college so she's not a Kappa, she just likes them a lot.

I am of French decent so the fleur-de-lis is important to me also - I have a lot of them in my home although I am obviously not a Kappa.

Sorry, no offense intended. I just learned something new. I was just trying to think of an example that was pretty unique to a sorority.

Well this might be a bit off-topic since we're discussing psycho PNMs, but just THANK GOD (or your higher power of choice) these girls weren't found out to be psychos AFTER they pledged and were initiated!

I don't look back fondly on the token "psycho" of my chapter back in the day. It's funny how you never forget these things. This happened years ago, but just the other night, while talking on the phone with one of my best friends/sorority sisters, the topic of psycho people came up and my friend's like, "God, I remember how stressed we were that "Brenda" (not her real name) was going to commit suicide in the bathroom"...this happened every weekend! Let me tell you, having police cars and an ambulance in front of your chapter house every Saturday night can start to take a toll on your image, or at least make people wonder.

And ohhhhh, how I don't miss the snickers and comments from fellow Greeks who were privy to Brenda's latest crazy antics and psycho stunts. She was banned from one fraternity because she - and I'm not lying - showed up with a GUN and walked around with the thing pointed at her head, threatening to end it all if her boyfriend didn't take her back.

She was eventually asked to leave the house (they didn't force her to resign though) and almost got kicked out of school 'cuz she was so messed up. Ah, the sh*tty ol' days (some of them).

Again, this is off-topic, but I couldn't resist sharing what I consider a horror story. Some people.

Just as an aside many people with mental illness have their first "breaks" when they are in college. As we all know, sorority life can be very stressful and push people over the edge, as "crazy" as that sounds. I certainly remember people in my chapter becoming overwhelmed at times with greek life in general. I know this is an extreme situation, but I think it is something that all sorority members should be aware of. Unfortunately, I don't think that college students unless affected personally by mental illness have any knowledge of it. I know I didn't while I was in school. I know of a sister in my chapter who tried to commit suicide the semester before I joined. I think that many sorority members because they may have never dealt personally with these types of situations don't know how to deal with it, and unfortunately, like in the case you mentioned, because of this, things get out of hand. Since I graduated in 1998 I don't know if things have changed for the better regarding mental health issues, awareness, and students, but I hope so. Anyone have any thoughts/comments?

No, I can fully relate to this. I remember feeling overwhelmed many times. I just thank God I had a support system and it didn't get to that extreme.

I'm afraid there are still way too many people who just consider mental illness "crazy" and would prefer to sweep it under the rug than to confront it head on. It's a shame that young college students leave school before getting help. Perhaps this is a topic for Greek seminars (or at least part of a topic!)

The age of onset for most mental illnesses happens to be your late teens/early 20's whether you're in college or not, whether you're in a sorority or not. In rare cases, the "biochemical" illnesses such as bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia occur in younger children, but the majority begin during the late teen/early adulthood phases, so it would not be surprising that young people could experience their first "break" while at college.

Dee

Well if all of her sisters were as supportive as you, it's no surprise that she had these problems and continued to have these problems. :(

Obviously you haven't told the whole story, but maybe if you actually tried to get her some help she wouldn't have caused all that drama.

I also wonder if you're stretching the truth to make the story more entertaining. Showing up anywhere with a guy like that and threatening to kill someone will either get you thrown in jail or a mental institution.

Bottom line, if she was your sister, you should be ashamed to talk such trash on her now and didn't even bother to get her help then.

Great idea for a Greek seminar!

In the future, let's please stick to PNM's. I don't want anyone in here talking about their chapter sisters. :)

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So one year we had this girl come through recruitment. She wasn't memorable or anything. Anyways after recruitment, I went out for breakfast and I saw her, not remembering who she was and she was talking to me about how much she loved my sorority etc.. I was flattered and thanked her. She then told me she didn't get a bid and was practically crying over it. I have a soft spot for people who cry so I felt bad for her, and tried to console her.

A couple days later we received a letter from her telling us how much she loved us and how she wishes she was one of us and blah blah blah. It was touching but we had quota and there was obviously a reason she was dropped before hand. The next thing you know she is sending us chocolates and leaving letters for us all the time. She was roomates with one of our new members and her mother called up the new member and asked what was so great about her that we accepted her and not her daughter. It was so scary.

Sometimes she would just invite herself over the house and just sit on our couch. We were like.. umm you have to go now, we're getting ready for chapter. I felt so bad, but it was sort of scary and irritating.

I think she got the hint, and I do see her around campus and I say hi but I'm still a little freaked out by her!

In retrospect, my post probably did come off as harsh, judgemental, and as some have intimated, gossipy. My point was that in rare instances, some women (as it was in the case I described) look to their sorority to provide support when dealing with issues that are best dealt with by mental health pros or social service workers, even addiction counselors. To me, if a PNM is acting the way some have described in this thread, it's probably a red flag of sorts. And it's probably better that they're not a member of your chapter after all, because believe me, it's emotionally draining for everyone else.

kddani, just so you know, I don't need to "stretch" the truth because in this case, truth is much more dramatic than fiction. You have no idea. It's easy to be smug and write it all off as "the chapter should've supported their sister", but the problem is, that's the same manipulative line "Brenda" used to make the chapter hesitant to hold her accountable to her behavior.

The chapter absolutely bent over backwards numerous times to help (counseling, etc). The university also tried to help and, as a last resort, told her if she couldn't "get it together" (her behavior was that destructive) she would be kicked out of school. Our nationals absolutely wanted her out, but our chapter felt it wouldn't be right to terminate her, so they just asked her to leave mid-semester, after much soul searching.

At any rate, while silly and sometimes creepy, at the same time I think "psycho PNMs" like the ones described in this thread can be a red flag too. Good luck picking out the good ones!

I know this is an old thread, but I have a story.

We had a PNM repeatedly out one of our Rho Gammas. She was trying to tell everyone about how many girls she knew in SDT (she actually knew a fair amount of girls)...I guess she thought she was cool because she knew the PG's affiliation? Anyway, after the first time, another sister who knew her sat her down and said that it was perfectly fine to talk about the SDTs she knew, etc. etc...but obviously to refrain from talking about the PG. The PNM continued, even talking about it during mock rush. Here's the best part...
When the sister confronted her again, the PNM said our rush chair had outed the PG! Hahahaha...yeah, right.

Obvoiusly, she got cut, although she did get a bid from another sorority.

Aww, cute but sad :cool:

That's actually what I thought when I read that.

There must be something about "Sigma". All the prior posts covered one "psycho/stalker"
Sigma Alpha Epsilon has a group! Some how a group in the Philippines has gotten into their heads over the years that somehow they are part of SAE. Their full name: Society of Agricultural Engineering but they over the years have shortened it to SAE/Sigma Alpha Epsilon. And they pop up in any greek group ( including this one ) looking for Brothers.
I have always wondered if they have ever tried to make contact with the other SAE- Society of Automotive Engineering

Speaking of girls calling themselves "honorary" whatever, there's a girl at my school that I had some classes with freshman year who is, like, best friends from high school with an XYZ here. She's rushed I think twice but hasn't gotten in. I don't know exactly why but if I could range a guess, I'd say it's either grades or the fact that she doesn't exactly fit in with them "physically" if you know what I mean. Even so, she still calls herself an "honorary" or "adopted" XYZ (it's on her Facebook!) and goes to a lot of their functions and I've even seen her wearing date function shirts, throwing up the XYZ hand sign in pictures, and writing in a notebook with XYZ letters on it. I don't know the whole story but I am 100% sure she is NOT and has NEVER BEEN an XYZ, and yet she still does those things and I guess they don't have a problem with it because she's been doing it for well over a year now...I just saw her the other day in a shirt from XYZ's annual philantrophy. I half expected to see her when I went through Recruitment at that house! Weeeeeeeeird.

dzrose93's psycho PNM story tops everything I've ever heard...where is that thing, in the Weird Rush Stories?

ETA: Got it! Read below:

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Warning - long story...
I can't remember if I've told this story in another thread or not, so here goes:

There was a girl who went through Formal Rush while I was a junior. In the middle of Rush, which occured a few days before classes started in the fall, the girl was kicked out of her dorm for conduct reasons (if I remember correctly, she physically attacked her roommate) and had to leave school before the quarter started. Therefore, she had to drop out of Rush.

She came back the next year, and rushed formally again. However, by this time all of the sororities had heard about her being kicked out of the dorm and no one gave her a bid. This didn't stop her. She attended every informal rush party held on campus, regardless of what sorority was holding it.

She came to our informal rushes in the winter and spring, and both times she was cut before our invite-only party (which was informal rush's version of a pref party). At the end of Spring rush, our VP of membership personally called each girl who was not given a bid so that they would not show up at the Panhellenic office and be embarrassed in front of the girls who did receive bids.

This girl showed up at the Panhellenic office anyway! She waited around in the hall as the rest of our new girls picked up their bids and then, as the last girl was leaving the office with our VP of membership, she stopped them in the hallway and demanded to know where her bid was! The VP tried to pull her aside and quietly explain (AGAIN) that she didn't receive a bid, but the girl wouldn't hear of it. She made a huge scene in the hallway (which is in the center of our Student Union where tons of people were walking by), screaming at our VP about how she should have been given a bid and what terrible people our sisters were to have not extended her one. Unfortunately, the story doesn't end there...

Apparently, this girl's mother was just as crazy as her daughter...

I was president at the time all this happened (lucky me ) and received a very nasty letter from mommy dearest basically saying that she would make sure Delta Zeta would pay for "abusing" her daughter. Around the same time I received a call from the Student Affairs director. The mother had called him, crying about how her daughter had been emotionally abused by our sorority and how we had violated Panhellenic's policy stating that rushees are entitled to fair, ethical treatment by NPC organizations during the rush process. So, I had to take the VP of Membership to the meeting with me (along with a copy of the nasty letter) to explain why the girl wasn't extended a bid. We had to tell the director exactly how our informal rush process works (basically, interested girls show up to open parties and the ones we like are invited back to one final party before bids are extended). We explained that we did everything in our power to prevent anyone who was cut from being "embarrassed." We also mentioned the girl's history of rushing every other sorority on campus and not being picked up, in addition to her history of being a conduct problem in her old dormitory. That, combined with psycho mom's letter, were enough to prove our point.

In the end, my chapter was cleared of all the false accusations and the girl ended up pledging a local sorority. One of my best friends was a member of the local, and tried to warn the girls that they were asking for trouble, but at the time their policy was to accept nearly all interested rushees so they took the girl. She lasted a few months before causing all kinds of turmoil among the girls and being kicked out.

I think it's an appropriate time to BUMP this thread! :)

So what happened? Did she end up coming through recruitment again?

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Oh my god, how crazy can you get???

You guys are really nice, because I would have had the president go to the office that handles student conduct and filed several formal complaints against her and made sure that she wasn't allowed to anything no matter how "open" it was. She had the potential to perhaps have deteriorate your organization's reputation on campus (although it seems that since she was such a well known psycho so maybe not) or at least ruin the recruitment especially with all of her loud statements during your events. Or maybe even attempt to hurt someone.
I wouldn't have taken any chances. I would have also called the police the minute she showed up at the park harassing you.
You guys sound like a super wonderful chapter to handle her chaos with such grace and poise.