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33girl 05-13-2004 03:17 PM

Russ, our LCs actually help with rush and officer transition quite often, especially if there has been a high amount of turnover in the chapter. I just wanted to clarify this - I'm sure every GLO's program is different in exactly what the consultants do.

PhiPsiRuss 05-13-2004 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
I'm sure every GLO's program is different in exactly what the consultants do.
I agree.

moe.ron 05-13-2004 03:31 PM

We called it Regional Directors

ISUKappa 05-13-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Russ, our LCs actually help with rush and officer transition quite often, especially if there has been a high amount of turnover in the chapter. I just wanted to clarify this - I'm sure every GLO's program is different in exactly what the consultants do.
Yes, and I think it's also another difference between sorority and fraternity consultants. Many of the sorority consultants do help with recruitment and membership in chapters along with other aspects--organization, education, morale, scholarship, sisterhood, etc...

Each of our 131 chapters is visited by a Traveling Consultant (TC) at least once a year, some chapters may have a TC visit two or three times depending on need.

Tom Earp 05-13-2004 05:54 PM

While many have Trav. Sec, Trav. consultant, ELCs or what ever name is PC at the moment, there are some who dont have that many to cover their whole territory. There are some who have volunteer Alums who do the same thing.

A friend of mine who is a K S Alum was doing this but to much for him to do and got tired of the many problems that were involved, well and a new marriage.

Usually, LXA has at least for sure a once a year visitation, unless there is a problem.

LXA does have extra visits, but money has to come from the Chapter as itteneraries are made out in advance for at least a year.

Would it have been a job I would have loved, damn skippy when I was younger!:D

It is an experience of a life time. If you show something like that on a resume, any Greek Member will realize, that you are a special person with training and back ground!

All I can say is The Very Best Of Luck if you can get a position like this. It is not easy at all and be very stressfull! Oh, but Rewarding!

josh8o 05-13-2004 07:10 PM

ok so life for me has been busy as hell....

my flight yesterday was delayed and i got back to sd 35 minutes before my last final. talk about stress.

anyway, i had such a great time at my 2nd interview. it went really well, and i hope i got the position. it was a good experience for me too because i had never been to my fraternity headquarters, and it was a nice treat seeing that i graduate on saturday.
axwhoah: yeah i met him, he is chill. there were 4 of us interviewing, so we all bonded. he missed his flight on the way back too...kinda funny

suntzu1963 05-13-2004 08:42 PM

Ahhhh...gotcha!
 
Thank you to everyone that contributed to the clarification of what exactly the position of "consultant" entails. :)

TxAPhi 02-09-2005 03:56 PM

I was an ELC for Alpha Phi. We used to call them Field Consultants.


Phi Fact from www.alphaphi.org -
1894 - Alpha Phi became the first women's fraternity to use "traveling delegates," now known as Educational Leadership Consultants.

I had a great time - visited chapters in Missouri, Virginia, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio, North Dakota, South Dakota, North Carolina, and Kansas.

TxAPhi 02-09-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by josh8o
anyway, i had such a great time at my 2nd interview. it went really well, and i hope i got the position. it was a good experience for me too because i had never been to my fraternity headquarters, and it was a nice treat seeing that i graduate on saturday.
I may have missed it if it was posted somewhere else. How did it all work out Josh?

TxAPhi 02-09-2005 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Would it have been a job I would have loved, damn skippy when I was younger!:D

It is an experience of a life time. If you show something like that on a resume, any Greek Member will realize, that you are a special person with training and back ground!

All I can say is The Very Best Of Luck if you can get a position like this. It is not easy at all and be very stressfull! Oh, but Rewarding!

I can testify to this. Interviewing for my first job after getting "off the road" with the GM of the division who said, "so you were a 'field frog', i always wanted to do that' -- the rest of the interview went great after that and I was hired the next day. Being a consultant gave me so many real examples to tell of what I had accomplished.

While at that job, I applied for a new position in a different job function. The VP of that area had started a chapter of her sorority at Princeton I believe and had great things to say abot her experience with their consultants. She said she brought me in because the greek experience on my resume impressed her so much. I didn't get that job because it was a more senior level position, but I was invited to interview in that area again and got the inside scoop on positions because of that connection.

I hear stories of some employers being biased against greeks, but I have yet to experience it.

SDTSarah 02-09-2005 06:14 PM

Ooohh....I want to be a TC so badly! One of the girls from our chapter was one, and now she's in Jacksonville helping with our recolonized FSU chapter. I still have another 1 1/2 years to go, though...

hannahgirl 02-10-2005 01:18 AM

One of my good friends and biological sister of one of my chapter sisters will be a Traveling Consultant for Alpha Gamma Delta next year!!! I'm so excited for her!

TxAPhi 03-26-2005 03:03 PM

when you know who your new consultants are post them here if you have a link; if you are going to be traveling, let us know :)

BetteDavisEyes 03-26-2005 04:52 PM

I wanted to be one but I had way too many other things going on. I heard it's pretty competetive though. You have to be someone amazing to do that kind of job b/c it involves a lot of traveling.

KSUViolet06 09-06-2005 12:26 PM

lI'm applying to be an LC next fall once I graduate. I have a real love and enthusiasm for Sigma and I consider myself to be a very knowledgeable sister (at least for someone who has only been active for a little over a year). I also love traveling and seeing new places. also, since I'm going to be graduating and becoming an alumna, I really want to stay involved.

There's an extensive interview process involved, but I think I'm up to the challenge. I'll update more obviously as it gets closer to that time.
:)

hoosier 09-06-2005 01:52 PM

Very interesting thread, and I'm amazed that so many posters have been traveling employees in the past - it's surely an amazing year or two.

Once, a Phi Sigma Kappa traveling secretary got ambitious, started organizing chapters he was visiting, and got elected Natl. Pres at the next convention. I don't know for sure, but I think the veteran national officers all told him to go to hell, that they would never work with him, and he resigned after about six months.

The Tekes have a special club of past travelers, office staffers, and editors which meets at every Convention for a fun-filled lunch (and initiation of the newbys), and members get to wear a very neat sash.

The Fijis recently hired a chapter officer and IFC pres from Santa Barbara, whose chapter was in the midst of a huge hazing case and lawsuit, and often the best chapter visitors come from small schools and struggling chapters - they aren't as likely to look down on the strugglers like someone from a huge chapter or an huge campus.

The ATOs once had a great guy who visited chapters for them, and was a frequent speaker at interfraternal groups - and he was blind. Told some great stories about having to be the designated driver after some ATO parties.

TKE has "Buckwheat" - a former traveler now making a career as a rush consultant. For $1000 or so, he goes to a chapter, helps them pledge a bunch. He's now old enough to be the father of a college freshman, and still almost passes as a student.

Would like to hear more of your stories.

33girl 09-06-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
Once, a Phi Sigma Kappa traveling secretary got ambitious, started organizing chapters he was visiting, and got elected Natl. Pres at the next convention. I don't know for sure, but I think the veteran national officers all told him to go to hell, that they would never work with him, and he resigned after about six months.
LOL. How long ago was this?

ISUKappa 09-06-2005 03:20 PM

That's great, Jocelyn! Good luck. :)

My advice for anyone who is even remotely thinking they would like to serve as a TC/LC/TLC/FC/ELC/whathaveyou is to sit down and really think out this decision. You will most likely be constantly traveling, every week, for nearly 8 months. That's a lot of time spent on planes living out of a suitcase. That's a lot of different chapters and personalities you will be experiencing, and it will be very taxing. You will see things you never thought you would see and hear things (good and bad) you never thought you would hear. You will learn things about the innerworkings of your fraternity, and it will probably not be very glamorous. Some people can handle those things, and that's fabulous.

I was extremely disappointed that after the interviews, I wasn't selected to be a TC. Now that I've been out of college a few years and have a better understanding of myself, I've realized I was not a good fit for the TC position. Yes, I had the leadership experience and communication skills, but I would have absolutely hated constantly living out of a suitcase and that could have affected how well I did my job and my level of fraternity involvement post-traveling.

Tom Earp 09-06-2005 06:11 PM

I lived out of The Proveriable Suit Case for 5 Years.

But while not with My National, I did try to visit some Chapters. What a Grand Time it was! Ment Good, Not So Good, and Really Not Good. But, was just an Alum stopping by!

If only if I had Not been married, I could have done it!:)

It is an experience of a Life Time to be sure. Do You get burned Out,
Yes.

But, if someone reads Your Resume, they should have the Balls to say WOW! Oh that is a Guy Thing!

Tuff and Fun, But, The knowledge is worth every minute of Your training and what You learned working with People All over!

How do deal with people is one of the Big Door Openers!:cool:

hoosier 09-06-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
LOL. How long ago was this?
'70s

Tom Earp 09-07-2005 04:33 PM

josh80 any word yet?

Erik P Conard 09-07-2005 10:46 PM

Field reps
 
the late Wilson Heller called us all "fielders." Like previously said,
they were not all chapter presidents or pledge trainers. And they
did not all come from top chapters. We had no formal interviews,
and I guess we were selected by "gut feeling."
The experience is one of a lifetime; two years is a good hitch,
as in the first you are just beginning to learn and by the end of
the second, you are kinda burned out. I do not know of ANYTHING of a training nature any better.
I met some real sharp fielders, and think Sig Ep had some real
keen guys on the road, but they were somewhat restricted by a
controlling HQ.
Yep, it was fun...and while motels look a lot alike and you do not
always know where you are...well, the other aspects far shadow
the paper work and the long drives.
It is nigh on fifty years now...and I still talk about those days.
The warmth, the fraternalism, the pride...will remain with you always...you only got one shot at it...so go for it! Good luck from
an old Teke who helped train lots of younger ones...

AOQTII 01-07-2008 10:10 PM

AOII Recruitment Consultant
 
Hey all,
I recently applied to my national headquarters in Brentwood, Tennessee for a membership recruitment consultant position. I had my phone interview a lil while back, and it went really well at the end of the conversation so asked if i'd be interested in flying up to tennessee for a 2nd interview. I'm heading up there Thursday, and im not entirely sure what to expect. But keep your fingers crossed for me!!!!

AnchorAlumna 01-07-2008 10:50 PM

Good luck to you!
AOPi headquartered in Brentwood? Did they recently move there? I had no idea...

AOIIalum 01-07-2008 10:57 PM

Good luck! Have you visited HQ before? If not, be prepared for a beautiful building filled with absolutely wonderful people. I'm sure you will enjoy the experience, even though it is a job interview and probably a bit nerve wracking.

AA, we've been in Brentwood for about 20 years or so.

AOII Angel 01-08-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 1576095)
Good luck to you!
AOPi headquartered in Brentwood? Did they recently move there? I had no idea...

We moved there several years back after an alum donated a lot of money to keep HQ in the Nashville area. It is really an impressive building.

Tom Earp 01-08-2008 05:49 PM

PLEASE, POST A LINK!:)

Most HQs are not that big, but some of the New ones are super!:cool:

Sororities do it seems a bit different and have rooms for visitors!:)

Oh to get back on the original Topic of the OP, if you get a chance to be a EC/Rep/ or what ever it is called, JUST DO IT!

The experience you will have is worth a ton of $$$!

I so wish I could have!

You can work with young people and enjoy it! Treaveling and seeing new places. Grining and wishing I could have!

TSteven 01-08-2008 07:57 PM

Alpha Omicron Pi International Headquarters Virtual Tour

Thetagirl218 01-09-2008 02:06 AM

OMG that is beautiful!!!

Corsulian 01-09-2008 11:58 PM

Yes.

I just recently received the position of Regional Coordinator (volunteer). We have a leadership conclave coming up that I'm pretty excited about. Haven't had much chance to discuss the position but I know it encompasses American, Delaware, George Mason, George Washington, Radford, Towson, Virginia, and Virginia Tech.

Professionally I'm a business consultant. The primary reason consulting is my career is so that I can learn the best leadership, organizational, and process methodologies and eventually apply them to Fraternity & Sorority Life. I'd like to work through Campus Speak and do keynotes at conventions and conferences.

And there you have it. My short uninvited bio.

sigmaceli 01-12-2008 09:14 PM

In the process
 
I just had my first interview for Tri Sigma's Leadership Consultant position, and I'm so excited to hear back! I'm really nervous, though. :o

I hope everything went well, AOQTII! It must have been awesome visiting your HQ!

KSUViolet06 01-12-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigmaceli (Post 1579503)
I just had my first interview for Tri Sigma's Leadership Consultant position, and I'm so excited to hear back! I'm really nervous, though. :o

That's so cool! Be sure to stop by the Sigma forum and let us know how it goes!

breathesgelatin 01-13-2008 09:30 PM

I applied to be a Pi Phi consultant during my senior year of college ('04-'05). I was a finalist and went to St. Louis to interview but sadly wasn't chosen. It was a great experience though. I will say that it was one of the most intense interview experiences that I ever went through in my life.

I was also really good friends with some KA Order consultants when I was in college, as the KA headquarters is in my college town.

sigmaceli 02-26-2008 01:11 AM

bump!

Is there any word from those who were in their final interviews? I'm hoping for some good news!

hannahgirl 02-26-2008 07:05 PM

One of my girls at the chapter I advise just went this weekend for her DG interview and is expecting a phone call this week.


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