Oh it is still about the hypothetical...it hasn't gone anywhere. I didn't assume antyhign about you but there seemed to be a difference in what Honeychile was talking about and what you had stated.

Had to get it all clear in my brain-

Citizenship through parents

LAST UPDATE: 6/17/2003 4:48:27 PM



If you were born in the United States or both of your parents are American citizens and you’ve been living in the United States, the laws make it quite clear that you’re automatically granted American citizenship. However, if you were born abroad or your parents are naturalized citizens, the laws that determine whether or not you can acquire citizenship through your parents are more complex. To determine which law affects your citizenship status, you must apply the law that’s passed immediately prior to your birth date. For example, if you were born in 1980, you must adhere to the amendment passed in 1978 and satisfy all the requirements that the amendment asks for. One of the requirements you may be required to meet is a residency requirement. This requirement will usually depend on whether one or both of your parents were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth. If you were born abroad and only one of your parents was an American citizen at the time of your birth, the citizen parent must meet a residency requirement and live in the United States for a certain period of time in order to pass on citizenship to a child. In some instances, you may also have to fulfill a residency requirement to keep from losing your citizenship. As stated before, the residency requirement that your parent or you must meet will depend on the existing law at time of your birth. If you were born to naturalized parents, the laws automatically grant citizenship to you, provided you were under 18 years old and had a green card at the time your parents’ naturalization took place. Some people with naturalized parents mistakenly think that they’re not citizens because they, themselves, never took part in a naturalization interview and ceremony. Keep in mind, however, that the laws on automatic naturalization of children have also varied over the years. As a result, you must adhere to the laws that existed when your parents’ naturalization took place. Generally, if there’s a possibility that someone in your direct line of ancestry is a U.S. citizen or naturalized citizen, it can be well worth your time and effort to explore the laws in effect on you and your ancestors’ date of birth. It may be that you’re already a U.S. citizen and don’t know it.

I'm still with honeychile!

...did Monaco care about Grace Kelly? How about Jordan and Lisa Halaby?hmmmmmm Maybe they are more open minded than I am...:o

If I thought the libertarian party was anything more than an interesting diversion, I'd switch.

Yeah, it's unfortunate that a vote for libertarian is a vote for Bush... If you like Nadar best (and yes, I know he's Green Party) but would rather have Gore than Bush, do you vote for Nadar or vote for Gore???

That said, I'm still a democrat all the way. I like Kerry/Edwards and hope that Kerry will select Edwards as his VP. *fingers crossed*

On an off note, I do think it is a shame that democrats are running on the campaign of "Anybody but Bush." I mean, I don't like the guy, either, but it's a shame that in order to win we can't support our own president. I wish it was more friendly, like, "Bush is a great guy and all, but we just think we're better." Shameful.

IMHO, your post shows an inordinate amount of class! I was definitely going to be torn if Edwards had won the nomination.

yeah, i think it's weird that dems are about who they think can beat Bush (meaning that if they sought out a man/woman who knew the issues and represented dem ideals, they would do better than just seeking out someone they thinkcan beat w). i know that this election will be a tough one for my boy w.....but, and maybe this is just me, i don't see the logic in thinking that specifically kerry is the man who can beat him. :confused: i don't see how he's "the one".....he's wishy-washy, his wife isn't full-out "American" (and this will cause some issues, i think, to some ppl...not all, obviously, but to some.....me not liking her has nothing to do with where she's from.....i think she's just as wishy-washy as he is....switching parties just so she "can vote" for him.....uh....what?....anyway....), he just doesn't seem like a strong candidate to me.....he's got $$, or she's got money--whichever-- fo'sho....but is that enough? i wasn't impressed with him watching the debates......everyone made him out to be the best thing since JFK....and....not so much. he's got the personality of dole....and we all know how that turned out. :rolleyes: (however, dole is an extremely hilarious man....just during those elections.....he was horribly bland...you get the point). hang on...i'l' start another thread..... ;)

to switch parties? was that the question? whoops. ;)

uh....thinking that hell would have to freeze over and that ideals would switch.....

I've heard that the best presidential debate would be Kerry v. Kerry!

I would switch if there was a 3rd party that was viable. Basically meaning that the US went to more of a 3 party system and that voting with the 3rd party actually resulted in a presidential candidate being elected.

That said the politics would have to be a mix...I'm liberal on things like abortion, gay rights, 1st ammendment (I have a live and let live mentality)...but conservative when it comes to money, government programs, death penalty...

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While he's doing that, Bush can teach us a math class. I won't even need my contacts since it'll be fuzzy. :p

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...and it's another good one! LOL!

:D :D LMAO! Come on now!!!!! Don't hate cause the Texan can't speak so good and cause he's not always the brightest crayon in the box.

Don't worry I dislike him for better reasons than that. :D

And so y'all know, I have voted Republican, but it was just for student body president.

GeekyPenguin, I'm ashamed to say that I have actually voted Democrat, but it was only in this primary and bc one of my dad's best friends was running for re-election as sheriff. I mean come on, it doesn't really matter what party you are for sherif!!!

Ha ha, yeah, our newly elected Student Body President is the first gay president in South Carolina. My guesses are that he's a Democrat, but just an assumption.

And as for the Texan... Don't hate on the Texan accent, think Matthew McConaughey.. Now THERE's an accent.

There you go. That's how I would switch parties... if Bush actually LOOKED like Matthew McConaughey instead of just sounded like him. Mmmmm

J/K

Bwhaahha!

Personal opinion only.

It is a shame that anyone would say they were sorry they voted for someone of one party or another.

I'm pretty proud of the fact that, since "Vote 18" was adopted back in about 1968, I've probably voted equally (talking about presidential races now, but it's probably true in off year elections as well) between the two parties.

There are very good people in both parties, and they should be voted on for their individual merits -- not some label.

I worry that some (perhaps a lot of) people vote for one party or another because their mom and dad were "whichever."

That's nuts.

By the way, what the hell kind of stereotyping is that?

On the other hand, we Delts thank you for the kind words about Brother McConaughey.

I'd put my money on someone gay being a Democrat. Why? Because the probability is 0.75 that they are.

-Rudey

Cute. Isn't that statistic true of the population as a whole?

No.

Delt Alum, I agree with you. No party has a monopoly on the truth, or on idiots. I get crazy when people don't know ANY of the issues!

Then the original post isn't either, is it?

What the heck are you talking about?

-Rudey

Beats me. You're the one who brought it up.

I'm not in the mood for this...I'm really not. You're fired.

-Rudey

Thank God. I'm outa here.

Actually, the student body president is a good friend of mine. Sure, it's a stereotype, but in this case it's true.

And I also find it sad that people vote with their parents simply because their parents voted that way, but if you think about it we probably all pretty much stick with our parents, because that's the kind of environment we were raised in.

If you were raised to believe that abortion is wrong, prayer in schools is right, etc... then you're probably going to keep believing that. I personally was raised in a very liberal family, and even though most of my young life I was a democrat simply because my mommy was telling me "Clinton is a good man, Bush is a bad man," when I researched for myself, I found that I am a true democrat, not just because of my parents.

As far as it being sad that people vote just on parties... well, I've only voted in one election (I'm 21), and I'll admit that I wasn't as educated about Bush or Gore as I should be, but my philosophy is that more than likely, the democratic candidate is going to have more of my beliefs than a republican.

I agree with you!! People always say that it's bad to vote stictly based on party affiliation, but seriously, if you don't know much about either candidate, pick the one who is aligned with the same party as you. More than likely he or she will share many of your political beliefs. Well more than the other guy/gal anyway.

Just about any thing really. Screw those people. The Christian right needs to be slapped untill they all stop talking. They make everyone else look bad.

So I was looking for another thread today and came across this one. I'm curious to know after 13(!!) years and our current first family, do any of the (admittedly few) active posters who posted in this thread feel the same way?

How dare you blaspheme our first lady. ;)

I still feel the same way about the libertarian party as back in '04. Wow. It's crazy to see all of those old names. Thanks for necroing this thread.

Wow - blast from the past! Hope all is well.

In terms of the question - I'm very close to changing parties now. The reason is that it's become clear my current party doesn't represent my beliefs and values.

Honeychile, you still with the GOP? This thread is super interesting to read Ann y'all responses but yours stuck out because of the First Lady part.

If I had go get a job and pay taxes I would start voting Republican.

Dear bot/troll, I love how you're quoting a poster who last put something in this particular thread in 2004! And yes I'm going to keep calling you out on your BS. I see what you're doing and really would have hoped the last time you got called out you'd go back to your hole and find something better to do. Clearly that hasn't happened.

Interesting. I had almost the exact opposite experience. I was raised by Republicans and, until I had my daughter, voted Republican. Once I became her mom, however, I realized I could NOT be a Republican and willfully support people who wanted my daughter/her generation to have fewer rights than I had at her age.


Curious about whether your stomach still turns over having a First Lady who wasn't born here...

Did once when as a Democrat that I had to vote a certain way. I said NO WAY! . Told me I would have to go immediately to Election Office which i did and changed to Republican. Thinking about redoing as indep!!:)

The Two Parties we have now just plainly suck!:mad:
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A Major change is needed!!!:cool:

What rights would your daughter lose?

Liberal policies fail. The American Dream is not to work at Mcdonalds for higher minimum.

The first thing affluent liberals do when they get money is move to more conservative neighborhoods. They avoid the failed policies they support for the mass.