A point makes a difference. A point/dollar/vote moves you into a percentile guaranteeing you a shot at college in china/a tax bracket that costs you millions of dollars/a president that you would never vote for. Of course if a point made no difference, then it would have made no difference for you to leave her score where it was.

I ask about how you graded this girl's score, and you bring up how you might have made errors grading other students' score. OK.

I wasn't there but I have my opinion. People weren't there during the civil war and have theirs.

-Rudey
--And if I was "there", and had known, you would have been taken to as many deans as I could mange, as well as had your name in the campus media; but you were there, and I wasn't.

And the dean knew about it and so did his boss, the vice president of academics. They approved.

My name in the campus media? Big whoop.

That's fine. Sorta like Enron?

-Rudey
--All sorts of people approved there too

Teacher/professors adjust grades all the time.
My highschool math teacher gave me 50% in a class I know I failed. I assumed he felt sorry for me. I didn't ask for it I didn't talk to him. I worked hard, I went to him for extra help. I just suck in math. So I assumed it was a pity grade. But I got the credit so I didn't have to take it summer school. I never took math again.

Kids cheat on their exams all the time. They may get "50% in a class [they] know [they] failed."

-Rudey

where I go to school a 50% is failing... i need to look into transfering if that's not the case at other schools....

What does this mean? I didn't cheat. I would have accepted a failing grade. I know he passed me out of the kindness of his heart.

This was in highschool. Our grading systems are different from the U.S (I live in Canada).

Highschool it went like this:

E (there was no F): 0-49%

D: 50-59%

C: 60-69%

B: 70-79%

A: 80-100%

University - it's the same, only they now use F.

There were also pluses and minues. For example a B- would have been 70-74%, B is 75% and B+ was 76-79%.

What does cheating mean?

-Rudey

Wow...I would've had a 4.0 if I had gone to school in Canada! :) That's an awesome grading scale!

holy cow... my high school grading scale was as follows:

100-93% - A
92-85% - B
84-77% - C
76-69% - D
below 69% - F

except in math where our grading scale was just like most college grading scales:

90-100 - A
80-89 - B
70-79 - C
60-69 - D
below 59 - F

My high school grading scale was similar to yours, mullet:

A = 92 - 100
B = 83 - 91
C = 74 - 82
D = 65 - 73
F = 64 and lower

So it was a relief to go to IU where they used the 90-80-70-60 scale!

My high school grading scale was tough:

100%-94% = A
93%-85% = B
84%-75% = C
74%-65% = D
64%-below = F

The good thing about the system was that if you were in honors/AP, the GPA point scale was 1 point higher. An A was 5 points, a B was 4, etc. But, it never really mattered because every college has a different way of computing your GPA based on their own scale.
I was so happy when I got to college and I was back on a "normal" grading scale (where 90% and above is an A!). Then, during my sophomore year, the college adopted the plus/minus system. :(

Re: I completely bombed a very important test
 

Hopefully you will be able to speak to your prof. about this, but just in case, can't you take the course in one of the summer sessions?

It's not proportional. Think of upper grades as a volume control, the increments are not equal. I don't think any high school in my area had any student past a 96% average during my 5 yrs of hs. The system is meant to discourage perfect scores, for ex. my buddy earned over 100% in OAC (grade 13) in some maths and sciences, but could only receive 99% tops.

I'm not insulting your abilities, doll, just pointing out the fundamental differences.

Well, tell you what. Why don't you report me to the woman who was president at the time? Her name and address:

Dr. Gloria Shatto

Heaven

You went to school in Broward County, didn't you? I was at JPT.

Yup. I was at MSD. Uh oh...rivals! :)

Ok, there's a lot of debate and opinion over this one.

School world aside.... If I found that one of my co-workers was being unethical to the point where the company as endangered, I'd first approach him about it and give him the option to turn himself in. If he didn't, I would voice my concerns. If that sees me as a tattletale, so be it. But I'm committed to my workplace and doing the right thing. Why should we all go down while one person benefits from being unscrupulous? So you tell me, is it better to save the many at the expense of the liar? I think yes.

I think college places us in situations we're going to face in the working world. Yes, we're going to screw up in the real world, but thankfully the grading scale in life is a little more lenient to give us that 90% when maybe we really only earned an 89, because of all the other things we do to make our work meaningful and the best. There's no standardized test for life.

Texas*P, you bombed a test. Talk to your prof. Show him how hard you worked and ask him what you can do to bring up your grade. If he doesn't show leniency, at least you tried. Rules evolve and change, and they do so because people speak up. If you say nothing, then you've learned nothing.

Next, send a letter to the dean and cc the professor about the cheating. I agree, that in order to avoid getting a million dissidents from tp'ing your car and home, should remain anonymous. Cheaters are also notoriously immature.

/End rant.

I wasn't there, and, gladly, will never ever ever have to consider someone from your school my "competition" to care about their inflated scores.

-Rudey

:rolleyes: :D

I wonder if they've changed the grading system now that they have eliminated OAC?

Side note: A guy in my english class received 100% in english. He had a 97%...the highest grade in any english class, but the rest of my OAC class was bombing...I had the second highest grade with and 81%. The department decided to give everyone an extra 3% to imporve the class averages. However, he wasn't going to get his 3% because they didn't want anyone to have 100% in english. After much complaining he got it. I'm glad he did. It was the principle.



P.S hijack here....but I love Carnation!!!

Please, explain your love in detailed prose.

-Rudey

I don't have to justify my love to you!

Your parents must be proud.

-Rudey

They are. Thanks!

Back to the topic at hand....


Texas*princess, how did your meeting with the prof go today???

in my english class received 100% in english. He had a 97%...the highest grade in any english class, but the rest of my OAC class was bombing...I had the second highest grade with and 81%. The department decided to give everyone an extra 3% to imporve the class averages. However, he wasn't going to get his 3% because they didn't want anyone to have 100% in english. After much complaining he got it. I'm glad he did. It was the principle.


pffff that's garbage. My buddy had over 100% in the most brutal OACS (a&g, calc), and only received 99% when the second closest in the class was in the low 90s.

Well because he already had a 97% in english, the extra three percent that every OAC english class in my school received, his mark became 100%.
Now, if our english department wasn't so retarded, he would have jsut had a 97%. But when the highest OAC class average is 64%...that's not very good adn it does say something about the teachers. I had the second highest mark in my class with an 81%. Our class average was 53%. yeah, that's why everyone got an extra 3%.

my university has the same grading system as what Lady Pi Phi said... I absolutely love it, because it has saved me a few times...

that being said, it might look like some sort of dream come true, but the grading up here is a lot tougher than back in the states (and I spent 2 years of university in the states before coming here, so I know). In my other schools, I was disappointed with myself if I got below an 80 on anything. Now I'm happy with anything above a 60.

T*P...what did your professor say to you?

.....My very first test in Business Law....was whew...a disaster... I was making all A's in the course...studying my BUT off....
50 questions in 50 mins I am like I got this....I got this....
I was done with the test in less than 15 mins...I was like WAIT...that was too fast go back....and I thought maybe I rushed into...so then I started doubling checking my answers...and thought some were wrong.....and I changed them.....BIG MISTAKE...I am not going to say what I got....but my professor talked to me when he was handing them out...and was like what happen....I was me dunno?????? I was so upset...with myself....he was like you changed your answers why?????? I was like me dunno....I just wanted to leave....and just drop the class...but I am still there....I bet you I won't make that mistake again...