All dogs are violent - no matter what the breed is. My aunt works as a nurse in an ER and just the other day (after I told her what kind of dog I have) she said, that they have more dog bites from labs and dalmations COMBINED then they do with ALL of the bully breeds (am staff, pit, bull terrier....). You don't seem to see the side that everyone else has pointed out. I've come to the realization that you are what you say you are, immature and cocky - among many other things including close minded. You haven't added anything useful to this thread - you've pretty much just thrown it into the toilet. I don't like you - I think that's more than obvious - and I don't appreciate some of the things you say to myself and other members of GC. I read your posts, but I don't reply to them - can you do the same for me? That would make my time here on GC A LOT better.

I knew you'd do it again. You couldn't respond and once again went back to the insults.

All dogs can be violent just as much as all humans can be, but not all dogs are bred for fighting.

On top of that the funniest thing is you're not from Chicago and are trying to effect Chicago legislation.

-Rudey

It's not about the fact that it's in Chicago - it's the fact that it's in the US and once they start in one city, who knows how it will spread. All I'm trying to do is help the people of Chicago and hope that if what is happening with them, happens to me, they will do the same. Get over it Rudey.

Personally, I don't think that anybody should be allowed to breed ANY animal until all of the homeless dogs and cats have homes. There is absolutely no good reason to be creating more animals when too many exist already. That said, I think that calling for a ban of a specific breed is completely out of line, especially the part about giving owners 30 days to "dispose" of their dogs. I would prefer it if police would do more to crack down on people involved in dogfighting and other forms of animal abuse.

Exactly! valkyrie gets it...I don't know why some people are having difficulty with this concept. The problem is not the breed, it's what people do with/to the breed.
What there needs to be a harsher punishments for those involved in dogfighting or those convicted of animal abuse.

Also, many dog bites are not random attacks. No one ever hears if the victim was in any way provoking the dog.
My uncle when he lived in Virgina has a beautiful Sharpei. One of the sweetest move loveable dogs ever. Wouldn't hurt a fly. All he ever did was slobber on you. Well one day the dog bit their nextdoor neighbours 5 year old son. This was no random attack. The stupid little kid (yes he was stupid for behaving like and so were the parents for letting their kid do this to the dog) was pulling the dogs tail, poking him in the eye, throwing rocks at him, teasing him, etc, etc. The poor dog put up with a lot of crap before he felt he needed to defend himself. So the dog bit the child. Well this family was in uproar. Threatening to sue my uncle, threatening to have the dog put down. In the end to avoid litigation and the death of the dog, the sent the dog back to the breeder in Canada.
My point is, not all dog attacks are random. You have to wonder if the "victim" was mistreating the dog in anyway. And I always wonder about this when the victim is a child, because some children (and parents) are stupid.

Agreed. As with everything else, let's enforce the laws that exist now instead of creating more that are unenforcable.

Dee

i do agree about not breeding, but i think that it is necessary to preserve the breeds and have AKC quality dogs. trust me, i see it everyday when people drop off boxes of pups at our door cuz their lab, chow, rot mix or whatever got out and got knocked up. now that pisses me off.
spay or neuter your animals!!! it's not that hard and it helps keep the animal healthy and cuts down on a lot of those annoying bad habits (humping, spraying/marking). and with as many low cost programs out there these days, there is no excuse.

and i still think rudey is wrong and posted without education. although zta's post was great. i love those references. good stuff to know since i'm looking to get a pit or amstaff.

shelley j
sigma k

How did I post without education?? I posted about their history and breeding which is meant to be better equipped to fight. I am not wrong about this and even the zta posted that.

-Rudey
--I guess nobody addresses my point and just says I'm wrong...cool.

That still doesn't mean that you're educated about the breed which is the point she was trying to make.

ztabchbum, if this ban does go through (and I certainly hope it doesn't) have you made an plans for your dog? It's such a terrible thing and I would hate for anyone to have to put down their dog. Do you know someone outside of Chicago who could take the dog?

I think this spelling error is really really funny.

I also think that UChicago might be more selective than Stetson, but I just go to Marquette, so what do I know?

Ztabchbum's location says she is in Tampa, Florida. If that's correct, her dog won't be directly affected by the Chicago problem. I think she is just concerned for the breed in general, as these kinds of bans certainly can spread. It is already difficult for owners of these dogs to get homeowner's or renter's insurance in many places.

Ahhhh...thakyou. I probably should have looked at that.

But I do understand her concern. It would be a shame if anyone in Chicago had to put down there dogs because they could not find a home outside of Chicago for them.

This I agree with. I think that if it were to come to it, they should help owners find other owners.

-Rudey

Yes, my concern is for the breed in general. If this happens in Chicago - who knows where it could lead to next. And as to your comment on what would I do with my dog - I would move. And I know my boyfriend would have the house packed in no time. I'm sure people on here will think that's extreme, but that's what I (we) would do.

Rudey, you last post was great. that is the first decent thing i think you've said on this entire thread.

as for the education part, i guess that would come from my job. seeing as how i work with pits as well as many other breeds on a daily basis. i also am in the process of learning how to teach obedience and behavior so if that doesn't count, i don't know what will.

shelley j
sigma k

You're the one that said I lacked education even though I posted the history. But ok.

-Rudey

i meant about agreeing with lady's post. understand that the way you're coming across, at least to me and i think a few others, is that the entire breed should be done away with. that's what i disagree with.

shelley j
sigma k

15 points to you!

More points than our basketball team has scored all year?

More points than I'm about to get on my Theology exam?

Remember when you went bobbing for urinal cakes?

-Rudey