This is seriously the rudest thing I have heard in a long time. Okay, I am so happy for you that you have great skin, but have you ever considered the possibility that there are people out there who have acne that can't be cured by skin creams in their local CVS? Do you honestly think that the majority of the people who have acne are like "oh gee, I sure do know that I'd look better without it, but i'm feeling super lazy so screw it! If it's just the same to you, I'll just keep it, thanks"

NO! Acne is a serious problem, one that often scars people for life, both physically and mentally. Many times it requires extensive medication, and even then the problem does not go away. And have you ever thought that maybe some people can't afford those expensive medications? My old roommate had terrible acne for years - it plagued her all through high school and nothing she tried made it go away. Finally she was able to get on Accutane for it, but it was incredibly expensive and her insurance would not cover it. In addition, Accutane has serious serious side effects. Did she have acne because she didn't feel like buying creams? Because she was lazy or too dirty to go to the dermatologist? No! She had it because she couldn't help it. And it's mean comments like this that make people believe there is something wrong with them for having it!

I understand that the spirit of this thread is supposed to be lighthearted, and I think it's kind of funny to talk about superficial things that people can change if they want to, like dressing trashy and panty lines. Even the winter white, although I still don't get that 100% :) But it's just mean to bring up something that many people cannot help, and act like it's their fault.

also, back to the white thing... i'm confused, and maybe i just missed a step - what's the difference between winter white and white?? is winter white more ivory white?

thank God it is okay, cause i just ordered Winter White shoes from American Eagle's website.

i am also really superficial about the stuff mentioned above. but i have to emphasize the hoochie clothing. especially on 13 year olds. i am sorry but if i see these little girls wearing 'barely there' clothing, i am going to associate them with those 12 year old hooker wannabees that i see on 'the maury show' talking about 'i want to be a stripper and a prostitue'.....yucky.

pirepresent-

excellent post about acne. it can devastate your life.

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my thing is DEFINITELY teeth! please see a dentist!

SOOOO Agreed!!!

People with very poor grammar and that don't bother to have a grasp on the English language (we're talking native speakers here, not ESL).

People who write online stuff like "How R U doin 2nite QT?".... it's like reading hieroglyphics. I'm not talking things like LMAO, CTFU, etc. but people who write sentences and all of their thoughts like that.

I'm an education snob I guess. Or at least for people to act like they have the education they do.

Umm, I think that for some of you guys your pet peeve is people in general, lol!

Winter white is on off white. It is hard to describe except to say that if you find a "white" sweater on sale in the winter and it does not look "pure" white, it's most likely winter white.

Smiley-- FL is different all together. One of my sisters and best friends was from Plantation, FL. She said it was perfectly acceptable in FL to wear white since it is so warm there.

As for the acne thing, I believe what she was trying to say was that there are people who don't keep themselves clean. There are most certainly a few basic things that people can do to at least aid in their acne problem: washing, using creams, etc. I will admit that it is quite disgusting to see someone who has a problem with nasty whiteheads all over their body and that won't even squeeze them. Yes, some people have problems with acne beyond simply hygenic concerns. But, most people could benefit by cleaning a bit better.

I think it's comparable to the teeth issue. Some people have bad teeth genetically. Some people have bad teeth b/c of hygenic issues. If you are willing to say something about someone's teeth, then I don't think anything should be said to someone who says the same thing about an acne problem.

This IS a thread about superficiality. Yes, some people might be offended by things said here. But, I don't think it's fair to talk about something YOU find in poor taste and to blast someone who talks about something THEY find in poor taste.

Lighten up Pire:)

:mad: There's already a thread about white clothing, bump it to continue the discussion there. :mad:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...ht=white+labor

Thanks for listening. :)

QUOTE-geesh you style police need an update-- that rule is from like 1952-- nowadays of COURSE you can wear white after labor day!!! have you any clue on how hot a pair of tall leather white boots can look with an awesome pair of jeans?? and fitted white leather jackets are great too. PLEASE PLEASE people drop the no-white after labor day... white is an awesome shade!! plus, snow is white, sooo..... lol-END QUOTE


Where I live, people would honestly laugh at anyone who wore white after Labor Day. Just because things are that way where you live, don't assume they are that way everywhere. I am fully aware that there are differences of style and ettiquette in different parts of the country. These days, YOU might be able to wear your white boots or pants and feel no social retribution. But, it's not that way everywhere. Plus, I think it's just tacky. And, I am not from 1952. I am 25. So, it's not just a generational thing.

You don't have money, are stupid, no personality, don't look gorgeous, wear bad clothing or think Coach is high end, etc.

-Rudey
--Oh and I hate snobby people too.

Dionysus,

This thread was about superificiality. During the discussion, the topic of white was brought up. Would you have rather I edited my thoughts and posted all of them but the white clothes comment here? Perhaps I should do a search every time I reply to a thread to see if any of the things I mention happen to fall under another thread as well as the one I am posting under:)

Teeth, to me, are along the same lines... I dont think it's fair to be mean to people for things they can't help. I just didn't want to start on that whole other issue. And I'm sensitive about acne because my old roommate is one of my best friends, and I had to watch her cry allll the time because of people making similar comments to that one - they were treating her badly because of her skin, and she couldn't help it!

I see what you're saying about whiteheads and teeth, etc etc. It's gross and unpleasant to look at. But at the same time, I just think it's mean to call people out on it, when there's nothing they can do about it. When they grow out of it or get it fixed someday, that kind of treatment from other people affects many people for their entire lives. I dont know, that's just me. Maybe I am too naive/optimistic about people's capacity for being nice to other people. Or maybe I do need to lighten up, and just degrade every single person about their genetic flaws. Since this is a thread about superficiality, that makes it okay, right?

tippiechick
 

I dont think she meant you and your post in particular, just that after DeltaSigStan's post the thread definitely started to take a turn. If people want to continue discussing the white after labor day issue then it would be polite to take it there.

No, not at all. I have no problem with anyone saying that white after labor day is inappropiate. I just think it's unnecessary to have another DEBATE on this subject, when there's another thread on it.

My pet peeve is men who don't take off their hats indoors. There is nothing inherantly offensive about that, I suppose, but I was always taught that gentlemen remove their hats indoors.

I hate obvious handbag knockoffs. There, I said it! I see some woman my age getting out of a 1974 Pinto dragging 5 kids into the grocery store with her and paying with foodstamps she fished out of her "Louis Vuitton" or her "Gucci" bag. I know there's no way it's real (unless the Pinto and foodstamps are a result of a designer bag fetish gone awry?). It's like, "hey you, you with the knockoff LV! I had to go to college and start a career so that I could be in the position to meet and marry someone who eventually started making a lot of money so that I can afford the real version of that bag and I really resent you thinking you can skip all of my hard work and careful planning just by going to some street vendor in downtown Baltimore and plopping down $45 for that bag!"

OMG, I can't believe I just posted this on a public message board! Please don't flame; other than this, I am actually a very nice person :)

Edited to add the comment Mr. KR just made when he read my post over my shoulder: "I see you're trying to justify the ridiculous obsession you have with people's purses, again"

Pire:
The thread was about being SUPERFICIAL... In other words: things that cause you to form an opinion about someone without knowing them.

I don't think the thread was intended to be mean. But, it is about being shallow. It's things we all COULD be more understanding about, but are listing because they bother us.

I don't think anyone is attacking anyone here.

I also understand your closeness to one of the issues. But, I think there are going to be some things on here that hit too close to home for everyone.

But, it's all SUPERFICIAL stuff. Hopefully, we all look past things to get to know the person. :)

Haha, me too. Actually, i'm not just fan of buying something with logos ALL over them. I've just never been into the super obvious stuff, I'm more of an understated kinda gal. I do own a knock-off though... my mom bought it for me when she was on a cruise a few months ago. I love the size and shape of it, but i hate the fake Gucci logo. But hey, at least i'm not driving a Pinto ;)
And Mr. KR is just jealous b/c he pretty much has to wear the same thing every day. :p

Fair enough :)

Thanks for your diplomacy.

I dont know, I just think it's easy for us to stand here and be like "oh go see a dentist, go see a dermatologist", when the majority of us had parents who were able to afford that. My teeth started out a little crooked - they're perfect now because my parents could afford to get me braces. Does that give me the right to say that EVERYONE should do that? No. I'm lucky. That doesn't make me better.

I guess my point is that maybe we should try to be a little sensitive to the readers out there who have these incurable problems. Can't we stick to the things like buying knock-off handbags? That one is funny, and it's a behavior that people can change. I think if you're going to judge people based on their appearance, judge on things you know for sure they are choosing for themselves. Like knock-off handbags, tatoos, and skanky clothes. Those are choices people actively make for themselves. You can't differentiate between people who are just too lazy to go see a dentist and people who can't afford it, or people who choose to keep their nasty whiteheads, and people who honestly have tried EVERYTHING and nothing helps.

Guess that's my superficial issue :)

ETA: Sorry to be so oversensitive. I just feel bad for the people who read this who may have these problems and get their feelings hurt.

Question: If one shouldn't wear white after Labour Day, then what should winter brides wear? What about debutante balls that occur in the winter? The Helicon Ball in Toronto is held in early February. Anyway, my list:

1. Girls and women who dress like they're in a hip hop video, especially if they're under 16.

2. Tattoos and multiple piercings (so I'm an old fashioned gal)

3. Too tight clothes on "larger" women

4. Whiney, Trista Rehn..err Sutter like voices.

5. Sandals with socks

6. That 70s Show hair on guys. Guys, you're not Ashton Kutcher! And even he looks like a dork!

7. 80s hair. I saw a girl on the street today, whom I guess is around 20-22. Her hairstyle looks a lot like the teenaged girl who babysat me in the mid 80s!!!

8. Sweatpants outside the gym and at home.

9. People who wear PJs to class. Geez, don't you have a pair of jeans lying around?

10. Overly done make-up.

11. Unwashed hair and face

12. Guys who don't shave

13. Clothes that don't match, are out of style and just plain yucky, especially if you can afford nicer clothes

14. People who aren't dressed appropriately for certain occasions. The New Year's Eve party I went had a semi-formal dress code. I saw a guy there in a button down shirt and khakis and no jacket. Dude, that isn't semi-formal but business casual!

15. Internet speak outside of chats and messageboards.

ETA:

16. Bad table manners. People who chew with their mouths open, who slurp their soup, etc. I understand that it's considered ok to slurp in some cultures, but it doesn't mean that you can do it in a restaurant that doesn't serve food from said culture.

17. People who keep their cells on at the movies and during meals. Ditto for those who scream into their cells.

18. People who bring their ill-mannered kids to places that they shouldn't really be going to.

19. Guys who don't know how to tie a tie. That's what casual society has done to people. How sad.

20. Very high heels.

I definitely agree with you.

I am superficial about...

grammar
teeth (I got this from my parents!)
nails
intelligence

Brides, debutantes, nurses, and sorority initiates may wear white after Labor Day because I said so.

-Peaches-n-Cream
--Self-appointed arbiter of good taste

I meant the whole acne problem to those that don't try to do anything about it. That bugs the crap out of me. My cousin, who is very dear and near to my heart, had the worst time with acne and he did something about it and his skin is great now. It's just those that don't care and won't do anything about it. I never said I had the perfect complexion. I do get a pimple here and there due to stress. I do something about it. If you all took it the wrong way, then, I am sorry, your opinion is just as valid. For those that knew what I was talking about, thanks for posting.

This is a superficiality thread. If you read through the lines of the title, then, people would realize that these are just superficialities and, in the long run, it doesn't really matter because it's all superficial things that might bug just one person out of a million. Superficial things do not amount to a hill of beans, really. This is just a thread that is basically saying what bugs people. It's not going to bring down the world as we know it just because we posted replies. I really don't believe that it's really going to change much of anything. It's just good sometimes to vent and move on with our lives. I don't expect just because I posted something about acne that "poof" all the acne troubles will go away. That's not the point. It's the people that don't care that bug me, whether it's acne problems or jeans that show their butt.

:D

And you would be absolutely fine in my book, because all of the above are a phenomena outside the social norm of every day living!



I'm starting to develop a real distaste for the current trend of nurses NOT wearing their caps. I can remember when the capping ceremony was SO important! I'm in hospitals & nursing homes a lot due to my job, and there are times that I'd like to be able to see a cap & get the answers I need, not read 100 nametags first, just in case it would read, "Jane Doe, RN" instead of "Jane".


Somewhat funny story about men wearing hats indoors. I was at an indoor soccer game with a couple friends, and their friends. One of these friends of a friends has one of the foulest mouths I've ever heard on a woman. There was a group of younger teenage boys in front of us, and as we stood for the National Anthem, the one didn't take his hat off.

The "Foul Mouth" knocked his hat off, saying, "You take your f**ng hat off when they play the f***ng National Anthem, you stupid m***f***er!!!"

I'll bet he never makes that mistake again!

Don't RNs usually wear different coloured scrubs from doctors?

Yeah, I think there are certain occasions that call for the wearing of white. :) I had just assumed that was understood. Sorry for any miscommunication...

My apologies, but I'm going to hijack the thread here for a minute.

I think that part of the reason that you got some heated reactions is because acne is a condition that's often misunderstood. Acne is not caused by a lack of cleanliness or "stress." It is caused by overactive hormones which overproduce oils that trap bacteria in your pores. In fact, being too zealous when you clean or over-using medications can often backfire and make acne worse. I believe that someone also mentioned its gross to see whiteheads go unpopped. Well, its actually dangerous to pop a whitehead because it can get infected and/or cause deep scarring.

I'm going to be the first to admit that this is a very sensitive subject for me. I started having serious acne at the age of 11. I've used every topical and antibiotic medication out there. I also had to use Accutane twice. The skin on my face is much better now, although I do get an occasional pimple. However, I still have some cystic acne on my back, and I can't be prescribed Accutane a 3rd time for reasons I won't go into right now.

I guess this is a touchy subject because, if I were to be on the beach in a bathing suit, or in a strapless dress,you would presume that I'm not doing anything about my acne. Nothing could be further from the truth. You just *don't know how* that person is trying to treat the problem unless you are in the dermatologist's office with him.

I also take exception to the statement that they "just don't care." I assure you, 99.9% of people who have problem acne care. We care A LOT, because they know that there is this prevailing attitude out there that people with acne don't have good personal hygiene. Acne is probably one of the most embarrassing conditions a person can have, and its something that they CAN'T HELP having, just like any other disease.

So anyway, to make a long story short, until you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes its impossible to know what they're thinking or how they're feeling. And before you reply, I realize that this is a post about superficialities and, as you say, in the long run it may not amount to a hill of beans. However, sometimes what you put out into this world has repercussions that you may not have intended or meant to be malicious.

Although I know you were being superficial and I'm sure you didn't mean to, your comments really hurt my feelings tonight, and I think you probably hurt other people's feelings too. I don't expect an apology; feelings get hurt all this time and that's just the way the world works. I think we just wanted you to be aware that sometimes words can cut to the bone; whether you meant it to or not. Just something to think about.

End of hijack.

It's not the ability to not distinquish them from the doctors, it's being able to distinquish them from nurses aides. Too many nurses aides will pretend that they are nurses, and can really foul up the whole patient interview.

They even make nurses aides pins that are almost identical to that of an RN or Lpn!

Hmmmm, let's see:

*I have this thing with people's eyebrows. They HAVE to be perfect (according to my superficial ways) or I end up staring or asking if I can do (shape/wax/pluck) their eyebrows for them. It's a weird thing. But, I've done a many of eyebrows in my day. lol

*Okay, if you're wearing anything Navy, you MUST wear BROWN shoes, not black shoes. Usually woman get this right, but men drive me crazy.

*Please don't wear dress socks with Tennis Shoes. Just Please don't.

the one exception to this is if you are wearing gray (ex: gray shirt w/navy pants). you can't wear gray with brown :)

i have far too many things i'm superficial about to write it all here..

Very true.

But please don't wear gray with navy. It's like a double negative!! :) LOL

An exception is for students in schools with strict dress codes. From what I remember, all private school students in Toronto wear black oxford shoes, regardless of their school uniform's colours.

I am superficial about:

-White after labor day, winter white is acceptable
-Linen and Pique after labor day
-Capri Pants that are too tight
-Clothes on people that are too tight, please it's okay to buy a size larger!
-Girls, not ladies, who show their thong off in low rider jeans or low rider pants. Sorry that is tacky, same for bra straps that show.
-Blondes who do not keep their hair maintained! If you are going to go blonde, be ready to keep it up!
-Open toe shoes when it is snowing outside or freezing cold. This is okay if it is with a formal. But not for work!
-Eyebrows that are not maintained.
-Nails that are not maintained. If your nail polish is chipping off take five minutes to take it off! I had to train my roommate about that one! She looked all cute in her clothes and then her nail polish would be coming off!
-Women who powder their nose in public, that is what the Ladies Room is for!


Oh and this is sort on the subject, I have a co-worker who dresses like she is going to the bar. Her clothes are cute but not for work! She wears sheer tops with a bra under them and I'm like, oh heavens! Not a work! There is a time and a place for everything!

I am superficial about this too. Especailly sine I deal with the public every day. Screaming/fusing/crusing at me because you have to wait is not going to win you any sympathy points from me.

Some of the people I deal with both on the phone and in person at my job act like they've had no home training at all

I have a huge issue with teeth!!! Go to the dentist, use the toothbrush and paste, use whiteners-- heck go get caps!!!
I brush my teeth no less than 5 times a day, just to keep them shiney and clean looking. Why can't others do the same thing?
When I see someone with bad teeth, I can't make eye contact, and my opinion of that person changes almost immediately.
If I have a waitress with bad teeth, I will not eat my food if I notice the teeth (like her bad teeth will spread like a cold). My husband has learned not to point out teeth problems on people, otherwise I never look at that person the same again.

-wendi

Good lord, I hope I never meet some of you in real life!

Now why did you have to even bring up that possibility? No one needs those kinds of thoughts...

(I personally think that a "What are you not superficial about" thread might in fact have been shorter.)

Lets do it! :p