We had several new colonizations out West we were working on. If Pi Phi can't commit a resident consultant for a year, I don't think they present. I also think the house costs would have been pretty high.... someday!!

Another thing no one mentioned that to me seems really obvious is legacies. I guess that's a bigger deal in the South. I've noticed that 80% of the PNMs going through rush at my school who are not legacies to the groups on campus (Pi Phi, Chi-O, KD, Theta, Kappa) are legacies to either Tri-Delt or Phi Mu. Without a doubt if we tried to colonize it would be one of those, IMHO. Of course we're not doing that--but it's ridiculous the amount of talk that goes on about Tri-Delt on campus. There are so many legacies of that group on campus, as well as Phi Mu, and to a smaller extent ADPi and ZTA. I've had so many people say to me "My mom is XYZ international officer of ABC and she wants to bring ABC here etc etc etc".

Personally, I support the smaller sororities just as much as the large groups. I think it'd be great to see them grow, too. But, as long as they are STRONG nationally, I think that matters a lot more than numbers.

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but I did want to shout this from the mountaintops....

Ready? <PsychTau clears her throat>

Alpha Sigma Tau is heading west!!!
We have four new colonies!
Delta Psi, Johnson and Wales University-Denver
Delta Omega, Penn State University, Altoona
Epsilon Alpha, Embry Riddle Aeronautical University
Epsilon Beta, University of Texas-Pan American

Delta Omega is a local sorority that will become AST._ The other three groups will be formed through Panhellenic Expansion.

[size=huge]YAY, ALPHA SIGMA TAU!!!!!![/size]
:D :D :D :D

PsychTau, that is wonderful news!! How many active chapters does AST currently have? I know it is one of the smaller NPC groups.

Congrats to AST!!! :D

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Congratulations! Since you said you are headed west I assume this is the Embry Riddle in Arizona. Is that correct?

Isn't that what many founders did??? :confused: Isn't that exactly what happened in Macon and Farmville; at Syracuse, Monmouth and Barnard College. ;) :)

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Actually, ERAU is in Daytona Beach, FL.

Hope that helps :)

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Actually, its in both Daytona Beach, Fl, and in Prescott, Az. They have two campuses; http://www.erau.edu

Also, if you look at the AST web site, the colony is at the Prescott campus.

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Wow! I never knew that they had 2 campuses. The recruiters they send to us never mentioned that at all. I stand corrected.

I was thinking about this lately....


My alma matter is currently throwing around the idea of expanding for a fourth sorority to take the place of Kappa Delta (as if they could ;) ). I know the name Chi O had been tossed around in Panhellenic meetings over the past year, whether or not Chi O has been approached, I do not know. A good friend and sister of mine suggested that my campus look more towards the "smaller" sororities. Basically, this is a fantastic idea in my opinion. My understanding is a lot of what is holding back smaller orgs is money. So, a campus like mine, money is not really important because upstart costs would be low. You would be dealing with a chapter of 50 girls, max. Housing is not a problem because an on-campus, college-regulated house is provided for Greek orgs. We're in WV, which is not tremendously far from Pennsylvania. In my mind, it could and should work.

So the question is...how do I, as member that is not affliated with one of these orgs get the word out to our Panhell? Kind of propose the idea without making it seem like I'm representing these organizations. (Although if you could arrage a kickback from ASA, 33girl, it would be much appreciated. j/k :)) Quite honestly, I do not think that our Panhell would ever consider this possibility on their own.

You are right, they did, but I was speaking about present-day and NPC groups in particular. I don't see a problem if a group of women want to start a local sorority and grow from there, but I stand by what I said (maybe it wasn't all that clear) that a group should not be able to form and dictate to a campus Panhellenic when a new NPC group should come to campus. That is an individual campus Panhellenic decision.

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Mine too! I think a smaller national group would probalby suit the campus even better. IMO, some of the larger national groups (KD included) don't really know how to handle smaller northern chapters. A lot of times they fail to understand the campus environment and don't understand why things that have worked for their huge southern chapters don't work for their smaller northern (sometimes urban, sometimes not) chapters. This is from my own experience, so no north-south wars. Just stating that sometimes the orgs fail to realize and adequately understand the differences in campuses. If a "big group" could go into this school, if they didn't get the results they wanted, they could easily close the chapter and not lose much. A "smaller" NPC group may be more likely to tough it out.

Moxie--

If your campus were to expand, it would be the responsibility of the campus to inform Panhellenic of their decision. All of the national sororities not on campus already are notified and will send interest packets. From there, it's up to your local panhellenic to make decisions. If you have a particular opinion, I would address a letter to the Director of Greek Life, indicating what your thoughts are. Not much more can be done after that.

Ok, besides the point that someone already made about our founders doing just that, I am a person who banded together and wanted a new group.
We did have a struggling group on campus, and as such we were denied the right to expand for a year and a half. We exsited underground, not recognized by anyone expect the other sororities who did nothing but disrespect us. We felt our fight for a fifth sorority was needed, so we persisted. Most of us had tried another group, and we just didn't "find our home" with anyone else. When we were finally allowed to be a local, the amount of juniors who came out for COB proved there was women interested in sorority life, but who just didn't feel comfortable with the other groups.
My point of the story, we actually created such a stir about Greek Life on campus, that more woman came out for recruitment...and the struggling group got more members. Now, they have 35 woman, and cap is 55. My point is, even if there are struggling groups, expansion MAY help that group.


edited to say: If our Panhellenic had been the only people to decide to expand, they never would. The people who ran Panhel (who have since graduated) were the most self centered women. Sorority life was full of bickering, and the atmosphere was dismal. The only reason we have Panhellenic unity was because
1. They banded together against us.
2. We killed 'em with kindness when we came on campus.
3. The meanies finally graduated!!!!:p

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Thanks for looking this up. The Daytona Beach campus was open for expansion as well this fall, anyone know what happened?

LD

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Huh???? I thought Johnson & Wales was in Rhode Island.

moxiegrrl,

as shadokat said, once there is "proper authority" establishing your campus open for expansion, the typical process is that the NPC will put an announcement in the expansion bulletin. Then NPC groups will submit proposals, and then usually the campus picks 2-4 groups to come to the campus and present. then, depending on the campus, each sorority votes on their choice, sometimes with other votes from campus stakeholders.

i am sure many groups will be very excited about the opportunity, for all of the reasons you mentioned before! hopefully there will be many groups to choose from, and since the process can take anywhere from a few weeks to a few months, there is plenty of time to convince people that a smaller group may be the way to go.

again, there are wonderful and unique things about each group, regardless of their sizes. there might be a group that really seems to be aligned with the values of the women on your campus. or another way might be to mention that smaller sororities have a ton of experience with colonizing at schools in "white space" - a campus with a small greek life where there aren't many alumnae in the region.

i loved reading your post, and kddani's too. that's the whole point of these threads - there are strengths and positive reasons to bring EVERY NPC group to campus. when we highlight the ones that extend beyond typical selection factors, the playing field naturally begins to level itself!

i totally agree with this! although i do think that some of the big groups are a little more flexible than some of the others!

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There are a few campuses around the country, with more popping up all the time. I don't know where the others are though. One is in SC maybe? But the one in RI is a big one.

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There is one in SC, specifically in Charleston. The only other campus that I know of is in Miami, FL, which is home to their outstanding culinary arts program :)

You were clear. I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to point it out. :D ;)

Money, it takes lots of money. Oh yeah and Chapter Consultants and alumnae who are willing to become involved and STAY involved.

Hey katherine by the way ... anyway I think sororities in the south must be so diffferent from the north ... there are basically a big three or four down here that everyone knows ... my sorority isn't one of them so I tell people which one i am in and they look at me like I am crazy ...

is tri delt and chio and the other big ones still colonizing chapters???

expansion
 

I was involved in an expansion presentation a few years ago. Our GLO had several other chapters within a 50 mile radius and a huge roomful of alumnae present. The other GLO already on this campus did not vote for us to be invited ,rather supported another smaller GLO that had less support in the area.

We were told that we intimidated the existing chapter who had limited alum support in the area because we had such a huge amount of support. You never know how extension will be received.

That is very interesting. I wonder how often that situation happens where one group feels intimidated by a presenting GLO?

Hey, I've heard of AZD! My best friend's mother was an AZD at Ole Miss in the 1970s. And my sister's best friend is one at Christian Brother's in Memphis, TN. I think the GLO's down here are different but we are all the same really, to better each other and the world. Not to sound cheesy. :)

A Xi D also has an active chapter at the University of New Orleans and an outstanding alumnae chapter. Although the chapter at LSU closed in 1988, there are still quite a few A Xi Ds running around here.

Chi Omega just colonized and chartered at Washington University in St. Louis. DDD recently colonized and chartered at Richard Stockton in NJ.

Here is a list that I have complied of NPC colonizations and charters from Dec 2002 through spring 2004. I know that I may have missed some.

ADII
 Rockhurst

A E Phi
 Iowa
 SDSU
 NYU

Alpha Gam
 Chapman University

Alpha Phi
 George Washington University

Alpha Xi Delta
 Idaho
 Iota Eta, University of Texas at El Paso
 Alpha Beta, Cornell

ASA
 University of Alaska
 Christopher Newport

AST -
 Delta Psi, Johnson & Wales University - Denver, Colorado
 Delta Omega, Penn State Altoona - Altoona Pennsylvania
 Epsilon Alpha, Embry Riddle Aeronautical University - Prescott Arizona
 Epsilon Beta, University of Texas-Pan American

Delta Gamma
 Auburn
 Case Western Reserve
 New Mexico State

DDD
 Richard Stockton College
 Florida Gulf Coast

D Phi E
 Drexel University in Philadelphia
 Texas A&M - Kingsville,
 University of the Incarnate Word

DZ
 Wake Forest

Chi Omega
 Washington University in St. Louis

Gamma Phi Beta
 Texas A&M-College Station
 University of South Carolina-Columbia in fall 2004.

KD
 Eta Delta at Wright State,
 Eta Epsilon at Sewanee
 Eta Zeta North Florida.
 reinstalled Beta Psi at Arizona State
 Zeta Mu at Towson
 Eta Eta at NKU
 Eta Theta at Villanova.

Theta
 Eta Lambda at Santa Clara
 Beta Upsilon at British Columbia re-established

KKG
 Harvard

Phi Mu
 Nu, Shorter College

Phi Sigma Sigma
 Iota Delta, Central Connecticut State University
 Iota Epsilon, IU-Kokomo
 Shawnee State
 Iota Zeta, University of Minnesota- Duluth

Pi Beta Phi
 CO Epsilon/ Univ of Colorado- Colorado Springs
 CA Nu/ Loyola-Marymount

SDT
 Delta Eta, College of Charleston

Sigma Kappa
 North Georgia College and State University (NGCSU) in Dahlonega, GA Spring 2004

Sigma Sigma Sigma
 Metropolitan State College of Denver

Theta Phi Alpha
 GAMMA EPSILON Shawnee State University, Portsmouth, Ohio,
 GAMMA ZETA Texas A & M University-Kingsville, Kingsville, Texas,
 GAMMA ETA Pratt Institute, Brooklyn, New York,
 Saint Leo University, Saint Leo, FL
 Schreiner University, Kerrville, TX
 University of Texas - Pan American, Edinburg, TX
 Wright State University, Dayton, Ohio (colonizing Fall 2004)

Zeta Tau Alpha
 University of South Florida
 Christopher Newport University (colonizing Fall 2004)
 Florida Gulf Coast TBA

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Several years ago, when my younger (biological) sister was attending Loyola-Marymount Univ in Los Angeles, she was looking to get another sorority added to the campus. I think they had four (DG, Alpha Phi, DZ, and KD) but the KD chapter was closing. I suggested she look into Theta Phi Alpha because of their shared Catholic heritage and I knew there was an active Theta Phi alum chapter in Los Angeles (I think there used to be a Theta Phi chapter in the early 1900's at UCLA). In the end, the Panhel office at Loyola Marymount chose Kappa Alpha Theta and that is where my sister pledged. I know that Pi Beta Phi has recently expanded to LMU but I STILL think Theta Phi Alpha should colonize there one of these days - I think it'd be a great fit!

:)

Yeah I am in the Chapter at UNO

Wow, awesome list AOPiRose! I've been meaning to do that, but i've been too lazy :( Thanks so much!!

Also, Phi Sig is colonizing at the University of Minnesota- Duluth. The chapter, Iota Zeta, I believe, will be installed in Jan. 04.

ADII colonized at FGCU too?? I know we pledged a group there last spring, and they were scheduled to be installed this October. I know DDD was the first NPC sorority on that campus(I met some of the girls at a conference this sumer)...did they open for expansion again?? It seems like a very short time.

ETA: YAY STOCKTON!!!!!!

I saw it listed on the ADII board. That's all the info that I have.

Thanks. It took a little time.

FGCU is the newest state university in Florida and is only, I believe, 10 years old. The administration is trying to focus on making the campus more residential in nature. They just built a bunch of new dormitories and are trying to offer more student activities.

That's all I know :)

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You're right :). Our Pi chapter was chartered at UCLA in 1926, although I'm not quite sure when or why it closed.

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I would love to see Theta Phi come back to California one day; I love how y'all were founded and your motto is wonderful!:)

aopirose--

You forgot D Phi E's colony at Texas A&M - Kingsville, which will charter this spring :) Also, we will be colonizing at University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio this spring as well :)

you also left out AEPhi's colonies at SDSU and NYU.

LXA:

Recolonization: U. Mo. U. Ark. Valparasion U. Kent State U.


New :U. So Car-Aiken, Incarnet Word.

New/ Re-Chartering:

Gettysburg College
Loyola MaryMount, LA, Cal.
U. No Colorado



I think there are some more, but cannot remember them!
:(

When did Lambda Chi Alpha leave the NIC and join the NPC? Does this mean that Lambda Chi's must now get a sex change operation? :p