Re: Re: Jesuit Colleges and Universities
 

Funny, but not so surprising to me. Those guys definitely saw a need for Jewish men to unite under those circumstances. Sometimes Georgetown can be VERY Catholic.

(Much like seven men I know who started something different at Cornell in 1906 ;) )

Re: Re: Jesuit Colleges and Universities
 

Hey Rudey, you're wrong. Very wrong. Delta Chi had a chapter at Georgetown from 1903 until 1943. AEP is the only fraternity that is currently active at Georgetown.

Let's just call it the first since the ban, okay?

Re: Catholic Founded/Based Colleges and Universities
 

I just want to set the record straight when I responded re: The University of the South it was in response to the original poster mentioning that the only other denomination that they could think of that is ok with greek life is Methodist (see quote below). I'm sorry if it took the thread off topic.

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Really? I see what you mean but I'd heard Georgetown wasn't too religious because of the fact that it was a top tier school. You'd be surprised but a few christian schools have contacted our national office to set up chapters there in the hopes that they'll attract Jewish students.

-Rudey
--I just find it funny.

Re: Jesuit Colleges and Universities
 

Loyola Marymount in California is the home of the newest Pi Phi chapter, California Nu.

Actually I think there was not NPC Greek life (presumably it was not allowed and then the rules were loosened) at LMU until a few years ago, and then they colonized several groups at once. Pi Phi is part of the expansion from the original group. I may have some of the details wrong but that is my understanding.

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Well, I guess it depends on how you define "religious." Our first lay President wasn't inaugurated until 2001 (after over 200 years). There are crucifixes in every classroom except the intercultural building. Abortions are not given at the hospital and are not allowed to be discussed as an option at the clinic. Condoms may not be sold on campus, nor may they be distributed by the clinic or peer education.

There is a six-credit theology requirement.

There's other little stuff, but nothing major like mandatory mass.

And that second part you mentioned is surprising indeed.

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Interesting to see some of the comparisons between our schools - we've got crucifixes in all our classrooms, everywhere. We have no hospital but to the best of m knowledge no condoms are allowed to be on campus - I've never been to Death Services and I didn't live in the dorms so I'm not positive on that one.

We have a 9 credit Theo requirement, and I don't think we've EVER had a lay president.

Rudey, great post dude!

Lot of Looking!

Yes there are Greeks at many Roman Catholic Schools.

Please do not use Catholic Schools as the Roman Term.

There are Anglican Catholics, Greek Orthadox Catholics!

Catholic in the Dictionary means Universal.

OK over that now!

As I understand it talking to a lady One of my customers, it depends on the Type Of Roman Catholic School and who is running it.

St. Marys of San Antoine, Incarnert Word, Rockhurst, Loyola, Duesquin, Creighton, ETC all have Greek Letter Organizations there.

William-Jewell just severed their ties to the Mo. Babtist Synod of about Gay Rights on campus! Da, 85 % Greek and Neat Houses.:cool:

We aren't talking about Catholics in the dictionary - we're talking about Catholic schools as in the religion, as in Roman Catholic. Anglicans are referred to as Anglicans/Episcopalians, Greek Orthodox is referred to as Greek Orthodox. I don't know anyone who hears Catholic in association with relgion and doesn't immediately think Holy Roman Catholic.

I think Loyola Marymount has had Greeks for a while as I seem to recall GPhiBLtColonel's sister joined Theta there.

Sorry, your interpretation!

Not necessary for this post!

thank you!:(

If you want to post something postive, feel free to do just that.:)

Actually, I feel this is relevant to the post. catholic with a little C is universal. Catholic with a big C is pertinent to the Catholic Church, ie the Holy Roman Catholic Church. It's my religion and my school, so I think I am allowed to have some input. :rolleyes:

A Catholic school is a Holy Roman Catholic school. A catholic school...well, I've never heard of one of those. The school of life, maybe?

Which has the hotter girls?

-Rudey
--Hot with a capital H.

The ones with a big C. Want me to pick a few out for you tomorrow? ;)

Time to listen to Catholic Girls by the late, great Frank Zappa (whose blood brother is a Priest.)

I personally am a fan of the million versions of "Only the Good Die Young." I used to listen to it before going out..

"You Catholic girls start much too late..."

Billy Joel was asked to speak at Fairfield University some years back, a fine Jesuit school in Connecticut, and was met with protest because of those lyrics.

Hehe, there's a much dirtier version by Me First and the Gimme Gimmes...where he says "You said your mother told you all that I could give you was a reputation" they say "You said your mother told you all that I could give you was a mild abrasion."

Make sure the ones you pick out are pretty and also really good with Excel so they can help me with my latest project.

-Rudey
--Guess who's making a pitch to underwrite the building of a stadium for a baseball team he hates.

I bet it's you! I will see what I can do - we just had a huge data analysis project due in one of my classes so I'll see who got a good grade, then evaluate their hotness.

No. Evaluate their hotness and then their good grade. Actually I'd like you to weigh it like this: 1.5(A) + B = X where A is hotness, B is grade, and X is the weighted total. It's linear so if you want to do 9th grade math and create a graph I will accept this as well.

-Rudey
--I'm looking forward to your graph and calculations!

CAn you explain to me the factors for evaluating their hotness? Face, Body, Overall, Jean Ability, etc?

I need some more parameters for A in order to give you an effective presentation.

A=(Face)^3+2(Body)-(Bad jeans)^5

Now you're no longer linear though. I think you need to involve a matrix in this somehow or it won't be fun.

-Rudey

And what am I getting out of this?

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i grew up there!! my mom was soooo mad that i wouldn't even apply to dah u. i know that wilkes won't host fraternities because they are exclusive, but they do have professional fraternities. i know some people who were in the pharmacy fraternity. kings has something like them...but they are religious based and i don't think they are part of any national organization. most of the schools in that area are commuter schools. of the people i graduated from high school with, about 50% of those going to college went to those schools...and commuted. i only know one person who actually lived at misericordia.

Re: Jesuit Colleges and Universities
 

If you're talking about St. Joseph U, Philly, then yeah, they have greek life. I know that they have chapters of Alpha Phi and Tri-Sigma there. (I visited there when I was choosing colleges)

Theta just installed its Eta Lambda chapter at Santa Clara 3 weeks ago.:)

What about Pepperdine and Univ. of San Diego? I know both have GLOs.

OK - Pepperdine is Christian but not Catholic- my bad. USD is Catholic.

There is a chapter of DPhiE at St. John's University in NYC. :)

No for Fordham. Mr Munchkin's aunt went there, and because they have no "frats," :rolleyes: that was one of the reasons she went.

If I read you quote correctly did you say that Xavier was the only predominately Black college in the US. That's not right.:rolleyes:

Questions- I noticed that some schools have national chapters but are not recognized by the school. I thought in order to be national you had to be recognized by a school. Can someone explain this to me?

I think that you'd be able to find answers to lots of your questions by searching.

Anyway, this happens because some schools flat-out outlaw Greek life, but national organizations say that it's okay to have a chapter there. Ex: AEPi at Georgetown, everybody at Harvard, everybody at Princeton...

Just doing a little searching.

Iona: Yes
Fordham has Phi Alpha Delta law fraternity.
Manhattan College: Yes
Marist College: Yes

my mistake. i meant to say that Xavier University in New Orleans is the only predominately Black Catholic university in the US.
excuse my bad typing:p

One of my best friends from high school goes to Xavier.

/hijack

Re: Kentucky schools
 

Yes. Georgetown has four sororities, and I'm not sure how many fraternities.

That's true. One of my best friends from my DZ chapter transferred there, and that's what she told me...she was really bummed she had to go alum.

And sometimes it depends on how the no-greek clause is written as to what groups other than NIC/NPC/NPHC groups are there. Harvard's is probably the strictest in that no groups that are controlled by a group outside the university may exist on campus. This means everything from Circle-K to the Young Republicans are out. Some schools ban just socials, allowing groups like Alpha Phi Omega and the honoraries on campus...

Now as for Wilkes, it *really* depends on how the rule is written. And the clubs web page for Wilkes is not the place to find out. It states

"At Wilkes, we take an egalitarian approach to student organizations: All clubs are open to all students. Because the Greek system excludes, you won’t find any fraternities or sororities. "

However I *really* doubt that the first sentence is true. The following clubs exist on campus (as listed on the clubs and organizations page). AFROTC (which won't allow gays), Women's Field Hockey (Excludes Men) , Men's Football (excludes women), and the Tri-beta Honor Society (which has requires 3 biology courses and other criteria to be a regular member. (any student can be a non-voting associate member).

I love it. All of our clubs have to allow everybody. Unless you are male, female, gay or haven't take 3 biology courses. So of course we don't allow fraternities & sororities. Sheesh.

Randy Finder

Re: Catholic Founded/Based Colleges and Universities
 

I go to a Catholic founded college and Greeks are not recognized although they exist. They are there because at one point they were recognized and at some point through the years, the recognition was revoked. Why? who knows, exclusiveness, hazing, rivalry...I have heard all of it but the truth

Re: Catholic Founded/Based Colleges and Universities
 

I don't know if anyone's said anything about this, so I'll just respond. I go to Santa Clara University in Santa Clara, CA. We used to have a Greek system that was started/maintained/supported by the school, but it got kicked off campus, so now we're not affiliated. But I'm still a Greek at a Catholic University. :)