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WCUgirl 12-06-2003 11:16 PM

It would be really GREAT for AZD to come back to State.... :) I just think it's wonderful that they want to expand by 4 whole groups! That's just awesome. :p

ChaosDST 12-07-2003 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
According to the NCSU Greek Life website, the following are the existing sororities:

Alpha Delta Pi
Chi Omega
Delta Gamma
Delta Zeta
Sigma Kappa
Zeta Tau Alpha

Does anyone know if there have been sororities there that have since closed? If so, what were they?


Well, I assume this thread is just about non-BGLOs.

But, here at NCSU, we have DST, AKA, and ZPhiB, as well. I see that Sigma Gamma Rho is also listed, but I do not know if the chapter here is still active.

WCUgirl 12-19-2003 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128
The first extension committee meeting will be on December 16th at 7:00 PM. The committee will be made up of one advisor and one member from each of the sororities on campus right now. I have asked my president if I could represent our chapter, but I haven't heard back yet.
So, does anyone have any news or info on how this meeting went???

AEPhiSierra 12-20-2003 09:57 PM

**bump**

i am curious about how the meeting went too!

absolutuscchick 12-20-2003 10:21 PM

Me too!! I SOO want KD there!!!

GreekGiftsEtc 12-21-2003 10:51 AM

I have to say that I am very surprised that NCSU is expanding yet again. I was an advisor to one of the sororities there (that is still there) and the rush numbers in the last 5-7 years did not support bringing in another group. I can understand inviting one group after one left, but I do not believe that all the groups have been consistently taking quota and maintaining total right now (from what I have heard). Although there are a large number of unaffiliated women on NCSU's campus, the interest in Greek life doesn't seem to be there, or at least the groups are unable to convince these women to register for rush. I know that Panhellenic has worked to market Greek life to the campus and has tried moving around the rush dates in hopes of having more registrants. I just don't know how successful those efforts have been and if I were a group considering expansion, I might think twice about NCSU right now.

Yes, it is exciting to be the new group recolonizing, and to be in a Panhellenic system expanding, but the numbers and the interest need to support the expansion, and I just don't see it. On a side note, the school administration has not been very supportive of the Greek system at NC State, specifically when it comes to the housing situation.

Katherine Williams

breathesgelatin 02-01-2004 10:21 PM

Any updates?

I think presentations are this month.... or soon, anyway.

IheartAphi 02-02-2004 10:05 AM

We had an AZD chapter back in the early 90's but it closed.

I agree with Karen Williams, the campus is very hostile to Greek life. I guess thats what you get at a Science/Engineering school. Also, on campus housing is ridiculous in price. My boyfriends fraternity has 19 brothers living in the house and pay 120,000$ a year last time i checked. Also, the houses are crusty, except the sorority houses, which the girls keep looking very nice.

For this new group to be competitive, they are going to have to be a big southern group that is extrmely popular, it would help if they were big at UNC also.

I think tri delt would be a great option, but then again my best friends are tri delts at clemson

Just don't bring back Alpha Phi, but I think they won't really try because there are still about 12 of us on campus.

WhiteDaisy128 02-02-2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

I have to say that I am very surprised that NCSU is expanding yet again. I was an advisor to one of the sororities there (that is still there) and the rush numbers in the last 5-7 years did not support bringing in another group. I can understand inviting one group after one left, but I do not believe that all the groups have been consistently taking quota and maintaining total right now (from what I have heard). Although there are a large number of unaffiliated women on NCSU's campus, the interest in Greek life doesn't seem to be there, or at least the groups are unable to convince these women to register for rush. I know that Panhellenic has worked to market Greek life to the campus and has tried moving around the rush dates in hopes of having more registrants. I just don't know how successful those efforts have been and if I were a group considering expansion, I might think twice about NCSU right now.
Yes, all of those issues concern me too. Several existing groups were concerned with expansion (2 even voted no) - but the other "yes's" were enough for it to pass. My biggest concern personally is the interest on campus. We are a HUGE school (around 35,000 this year) and only 4% of campus is Greek. There are LOT's of women who are not affiliated that we can pull from, but like Katherine said, there is not much interest. But - that being said, when DG colonized, over 100 women came out of the frame work and expressed interest - maybe that'll happen again.

There are updates, more will come shortly as well - presentation dates have been set - I don't have my calendar book with me right now, I can give general ideas. Three groups are being invited to present (it has not been announced who though) and the dates are one in late February, then two in early March. 20 representatives from each sorority are invited to attend each presentation and will be asked for input. I will be there on behalf of DG in that capacity and will be able to give much more information soon!!

Despite my hesitations, expansion WILL happen, so I'm getting excited about it and will support the new group on campus 100%.

WhiteDaisy128 02-02-2004 06:57 PM

Just found out!!! The following groups have been invited to make presentations at NCSU for a chance at expansion:

KAPPA DELTA

DELTA DELTA DELTA

and

PI BETA PHI

Congrat's to those organization's!! I can't wait to see all of the presentations!

Txsurfinwaves 02-02-2004 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128
Just found out!!! The following groups have been invited to make presentations at NCSU for a chance at expansion:

KAPPA DELTA

DELTA DELTA DELTA

and

PI BETA PHI

Congrat's to those organization's!! I can't wait to see all of the presentations!




YAY! Paging breathesgelatin......

werent we talking about how we wanted more pi phi chapters in NC on the pi phi boards??

However, those are three strong groups...so whoever gets it, will def. be awesome!

kddani 02-02-2004 07:01 PM

woohoo! thanks for the scoop! Go KD!

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-02-2004 07:13 PM

Congrats to NC State for getting one of three great groups!

Where are our Delta girls to celebrate?

breathesgelatin 02-02-2004 10:00 PM

OMG

Y'all don't know how badly I want this for Pi Phi. I seriously would get RIFs for all my friends!!!! However, I can think Panhellenically! Good luck to everyone with the presentations!

Txsurfinwaves--this is so ironic 'cause I literally posted like two days ago about how we needed more Carolina chapters!

TriDeltaGal 02-03-2004 08:39 PM

I'm here HotDamn!

Yay for Tridelta...I hope our presentation goes well...I think we have a pretty strong presense in NC that will hopefully help!

Good Luck to all of the groups but sending good vibes to our Tridelta presenters!

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2004 09:03 PM

Woohoo!

Hope the presentation goes well. I wish I could see something like that; it's gotta be fascinating.

Are you Deltas wheeling in Posidon for this one in the special converted van, or what?

TriDeltaGal 02-03-2004 10:05 PM

Well HotDamn...
maybe DolphinChica can correct me if I am wrong since Stockon was just colonized but what I hear is that Posiden does go to all of our Tridelta presentation. He actually performs a spiffy little song and dance number which includes several Tridelts dressed up as pine trees, pearls, pansies and of course a couple of dolphins... all set to the tunes of "Cats". I've also heard that Posiden's voice is pretty decent... sounds a little like a young Wayne Newton. Finally, they end the presentation with a dramatic yet awe-inspiring retelling of the founding of Tridelta through the use of mimes with Posiden portraying the part of Eleanor Dorcus.

So, as you can see, we are a sure lock for NCSU...Pi Phi and KD, you better watch out Posiden is coming to Raleigh!

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2004 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by TriDeltaGal
Well HotDamn...
maybe DolphinChica can correct me if I am wrong since Stockon was just colonized but what I hear is that Posiden does go to all of our Tridelta presentation. He actually performs a spiffy little song and dance number which includes several Tridelts dressed up as pine trees, pearls, pansies and of course a couple of dolphins... all set to the tunes of "Cats". I've also heard that Posiden's voice is pretty decent... sounds a little like a young Wayne Newton. Finally, they end the presentation with a dramatic yet awe-inspiring retelling of the founding of Tridelta through the use of mimes with Posiden portraying the part of Eleanor Dorcus.

So, as you can see, we are a sure lock for NCSU...Pi Phi and KD, you better watch out Posiden is coming to Raleigh!



BWAHAHAHA..... annnnnd this gets my vote for best description of a colonization presentation EVER. Brought to you locally by our very own TriDeltaGal. :D

DolphinChicaDDD 02-03-2004 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TriDeltaGal
Well HotDamn...
maybe DolphinChica can correct me if I am wrong since Stockon was just colonized but what I hear is that Posiden does go to all of our Tridelta presentation. He actually performs a spiffy little song and dance number which includes several Tridelts dressed up as pine trees, pearls, pansies and of course a couple of dolphins... all set to the tunes of "Cats". I've also heard that Posiden's voice is pretty decent... sounds a little like a young Wayne Newton. Finally, they end the presentation with a dramatic yet awe-inspiring retelling of the founding of Tridelta through the use of mimes with Posiden portraying the part of Eleanor Dorcus.

So, as you can see, we are a sure lock for NCSU...Pi Phi and KD, you better watch out Posiden is coming to Raleigh!

YEAH FOR TRI DELTA!!!

Ya know, I believe that IS the same presentation we saw. Unfortantly, Posiden was sick that evening, so we had to see his understudy. But at least he came to Installation.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2004 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IheartAphi
For this new group to be competitive, they are going to have to be a big southern group that is extrmely popular, it would help if they were big at UNC also.

Interesting -- I know both Tri Delta and Pi Phi are big in the south. How's KD, southern-wise?

sugar and spice 02-03-2004 11:36 PM

KD is pretty strong in the South.

I actually get the impression that KD or Tri Delt will have an easier time of things because they have more Carolina chapters to help out -- but I think Pi Phi would do just fine if they got it too.

WhiteDaisy128 02-03-2004 11:39 PM

I think all three GLO's will give great presentations! I can't wait to see them! My thought right off the batt is that KD and DDD have a slight advantage in that they presented last year with DG being the third group. Obviously DG was picked, but KD and Tri-Delt have both checked back with NCSU's Greek Life to see how we were doing, etc. They were just making sure that Greek Life knew they were still interested.

In any case though, I'm totally open to all three groups and can't wait to give ya'll the latest!! :D

breathesgelatin 02-04-2004 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
KD is pretty strong in the South.

I actually get the impression that KD or Tri Delt will have an easier time of things because they have more Carolina chapters to help out -- but I think Pi Phi would do just fine if they got it too.

Well, I definately understand that we may be a bit behind in terms of not having presented the first time, and in number of chapters, but all three NC Pi Phi chapters are very strong, and Chapel Hill and Duke are literally just down the road. Plus, the triangle area alum club (Raleigh-Chapel Hill-Durham) is quite strong. So I can assure you that there would be adequate support! Of course I will be happy for any of the groups, but I have faith that our presentation team will put forth a tremendous effort... Anyway good luck to all and to the NC Panhel members faced with such a difficult decision between such strong groups!

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-04-2004 12:18 PM

so will Pi Phi be bringing gold arrows to shoot at PNMs, or will y'all be sticking with the traditional azure blue catsuits for the presentation?

breathesgelatin 02-04-2004 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
so will Pi Phi be bringing gold arrows to shoot at PNMs, or will y'all be sticking with the traditional azure blue catsuits for the presentation?
LOL... I for one will not be wearing a catsuit.

Then again, I'm not on the presentation team!

jharb 02-04-2004 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
so will Pi Phi be bringing gold arrows to shoot at PNMs, or will y'all be sticking with the traditional azure blue catsuits for the presentation?
We're bringing the golden angel to shoot gold arrows at the PNMs and we've upgraded to wine and blue catsuits (the wine is a bit more slimming). Oh but wait! I've said too much! :eek:


hehe :p

WhiteDaisy128 02-04-2004 01:22 PM

Edited to add: The post that I was talking about was deleted.

33girl 02-04-2004 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128
Why the hell would you bring this up?!
For real.

(33girl goes to her map to see which school "down the road" has a KD, Tri-Delt or Pi Phi chapter - so she can send the national a note telling them someone doesn't think they're worthy of presenting :rolleyes: )

(33girl apologizes to AXO Alum for biting her style)

WhiteDaisy128 02-04-2004 01:40 PM

Edited to Add: The post I was talking about has been deleted.

33girl 02-04-2004 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by GreekGiftsEtc
The question that it would raise in my mind, is if there is hazing happening down the road, then does that chapter have enough area alumnae advising with their finger on the pulse of the collegiate chapter to be able to handle another group.
Christopher Columbus, please don't tell me you think that unless alumnae are watching over chapters and making all their decisions the girls are on a slow boat to hell. They're not.

I am sure that NCSU is smart enough to consider differences between the campuses like campus culture, student composition (i.e. rich, poor, etc) and percentage of students who are Greek.

Carnegie-Mellon and Pitt are literally on top of each other and I've never heard "well, since Pitt's XYZ chapter sucks, CMU's must suck too." Proximity is a very small factor, as has been pointed out many times on here.

aopirose 02-04-2004 01:56 PM

Obviously or the group would not have submitted a proposal in the first place.

Quote:

Originally posted by GreekGiftsEtc
The question that it would raise in my mind, is if there is hazing happening down the road, then does that chapter have enough area alumnae advising with their finger on the pulse of the collegiate chapter to be able to handle another group.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-04-2004 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
please don't tell me you think that unless alumnae are watching over chapters and making all their decisions the girls are on a slow boat to hell.

No, a HANDBASKET. Get it straight.


NC State actually has an EXCELLENT relationship between the students/student gov't/faculty. I have no doubt that they made a VERY educated decision here.

ChaosDST 02-04-2004 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128
But it's OBVIOUS to anyone that lives or is familiar with the area which schools are a possibility. When there are three large, well known university with in 30 miles of each other - it's not hard to narrow down possibilities. I just think it's malicious to write that when it could hurt their chaces of being picked. I know for a fact that the IFC Advisor at NCSU reads these boards - if he passes it on to the Panhellenic Advisor then it could hurt whatever group you are talking about. I have confidence in our Panhellenic to make wise decisions about who to invite to colonized. I'm sure they have done their homework, so why bring up things like this?

I agree. Go Wolfpack!

IheartAphi 02-14-2004 11:26 AM

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NC State actually has an EXCELLENT relationship between the students/student gov't/faculty. I have no doubt that they made a VERY educated decision her
HAHAHA As a former member of student "dressup" government... This is hilarious :)

Is KA closing? There house is so much better than the Old SAM house. (Assuming, the new group will get a house)

When is the next meeting?

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-14-2004 01:47 PM

Guess we'll have to disagree there.... from one former member of the student gov't to another!

carnation 02-14-2004 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by jharb
We're bringing the golden angel to shoot gold arrows at the PNMs and we've upgraded to wine and blue catsuits (the wine is a bit more slimming). Oh but wait! I've said too much! :eek:


hehe :p


:eek: :eek: :eek: Oh. My. Gosh. You have totally exposed our ritual.:eek:

honeychile 02-14-2004 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
so will Pi Phi be bringing gold arrows to shoot at PNMs, or will y'all be sticking with the traditional azure blue catsuits for the presentation?
I hate to correct a fellow Macon Magnolia in public, but the azure blue catsuits are OURS!!!!

The pale blue makes it easier to circle the fat...

IheartAphi 02-14-2004 05:48 PM

I didnt know you did SG while you were at NCSU? What branch did you do?

I was in Senate for two years, tons of meeting that got out at 3 am

Also, if you noticed the finance system, Greek life was the least likely to get student funds for their philantrophy projects while other groups got funds for trips and stuff.


My family is from Macon and my aunt was an ADPi at Wesleyan and my Macon Cousins are all Phi Mu's. Small world huh

WhiteDaisy128 02-23-2004 10:08 PM

Delta Delta Delta presented tonight. They had a great presentation that was very well received by Panhellenic and the other Greek Councils. They pushed three main things: Making connections with Panhellenic & other organizations at NCSU, providing support for a new chapter (alumnae, national officers, etc.), and having unique programming for the new chapters.

Pi Beta Phi is presenting on Wednesday (I can not go to this one...makes me so mad!!) and Kappa Delta will come next week (Tuesday I think - I'll be there for that one).

The presidents are meeting with Tri-Delt right now to ask questions, etc.

TriDeltaGal 02-24-2004 02:02 AM

Good Luck to our Delta Delta Delta reps! Hope they made an amazing presentation!


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