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AXJules 10-30-2003 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice

And I agree with Jules: wear what you want. People who wear labels are no better than those who don't, and vice versa. Isn't it great when we've got the non-label-wearers feeling superior to the label-wearers because they "are individuals" and the label-wearers feeling superior to the non-label-wearers because they are "in style"? And then toss in the people who think they're better because they're wearing Lilly Pulitzer instead of Abercrombie, Seven jeans instead of FUBU, etc. Seriously, how petty can we get?


Sounds like the best quote I ever heard- Never forget: you're unique.....just like everyone else.
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I also agree with her that nerd glasses are hot.

And that is why we girlfwiends!!!!

mu_agd 10-30-2003 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
Are "nerd glasses" those thick rimmed ones that have come back in style? If so, I think they're REALLY cute, although they look funny on me. If not, I have no earthly idea what they are :confused:
that's what i was thinking they were. if so, one of my guy friends has a pair and he looks so cute in them!

Steeltrap 10-30-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
Are "nerd glasses" those thick rimmed ones that have come back in style? If so, I think they're REALLY cute, although they look funny on me. If not, I have no earthly idea what they are :confused:

She might be talking about those. But I like the thinner glasses, if I'm going to wear glasses. I've worn contacts for 19 years :eek: and am reluctant to go back.

wreckingcrew 10-30-2003 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Bikers do not wear do-rags. They wear headwraps. They don't even wear bandanas most of the time -- they have a specially fashioned piece of cloth that looks nothing like a bandana when it's off. And I know this because my friend's mom owns a company that sells biker apparel and I worked there one summer, so do not question my knowledge on this subject. :p

Sure, bandanas go across the spectrum of cultures, but the term "do-rag" is specifically associated with "ghetto" culture. You can't separate the "bling bling" from the black, because they are automatically linked in most people's eyes. And no, saying you don't find the "bling bling" attractive is not necessarily racist -- I certainly don't think it's all that hot when guys have got their pants pulled down to their knees -- but a ridiculous attack where you make fun of something that is clearly associated with one race is verging on it. It's really not all that far from saying "People who wear kimonos and eat sushi are really stupid. They should be wearing khakis and eating hamburgers like me."

I think it's hilarious when the same people who complain about "everything on GC turning into a race issue" are the ones who bring up things that are obviously race issues.


I'm glad that one summer spent working in a bike outfitters store has made you and expert on all things biker and qualifies you to speak on behalf of all bikers.

I spent one summer volunteering at a Boy's and Girl's club in Bryan, Texas, does that make me an expert on AfAm youth? i think some of the posters on GC would be quick to say Hell No. I have SEEN bikers wearing what i call do-rags, what others call bandanas.

There is a HUGE difference between a Kimono and hip hop gear. When the slave traders were bringing the slaves over to the New World were they chasing men and women wearing FUBU or sagging jeans? No. A kimono is a traditonal way of dress, bling bling is an amalgamation of different styles and fashion trends that is shared equally amongst American youth. If i had said, traditional African dress is dumb, and i don't like it, then THAT would have been a similar statement.

Kitso
KS 361 times i knew this thread would go this way, not because i wanted it to, but because we can't have a convo like this w/o something playing the race card

wreckingcrew 10-30-2003 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
You have a point there and I can completely understand that line of reasoning. But, as I was saying earlier, let's not be naive.



Again, let's not be naive.

I'm not being naive.

I started this ENTIRE thread as a joke, not as a discussion of fashion. I gave it a name similar to the FAT like me thread that we were having fun on, and subsequently was locked.

So, in order to make my point i named it PHat like me. To continue the ruse, i posted about not liking the hip hop fashion. the first thing about race on this thread was when i mentioned, 'lets see how long it takes for someone to take this (harmless) thread and turn it into a race issue."

and, y'all proved my point. from now on i'll just post about white bread and gordon lightfoot. Oh wait, the canadians may start in on me next

Kitso
KS 361 times i'm done with this topic.

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules



And that is why we girlfwiends!!!!

Kiss kiss!

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
I'm glad that one summer spent working in a bike outfitters store has made you and expert on all things biker and qualifies you to speak on behalf of all bikers.

I spent one summer volunteering at a Boy's and Girl's club in Bryan, Texas, does that make me an expert on AfAm youth? i think some of the posters on GC would be quick to say Hell No. I have SEEN bikers wearing what i call do-rags, what others call bandanas.

There is a HUGE difference between a Kimono and hip hop gear. When the slave traders were bringing the slaves over to the New World were they chasing men and women wearing FUBU or sagging jeans? No. A kimono is a traditonal way of dress, bling bling is an amalgamation of different styles and fashion trends that is shared equally amongst American youth. If i had said, traditional African dress is dumb, and i don't like it, then THAT would have been a similar statement.

Kitso
KS 361 times i knew this thread would go this way, not because i wanted it to, but because we can't have a convo like this w/o something playing the race card

I think that someone who has worked with "biker apparel," while not an expert, would have at least a working knowledge of what bikers put on their heads. And the problem with bandanas is that they are more likely to come off your head while you're riding a motorcycle, which is why headwraps were invented. Sure, there are bikers who wear bandanas but they are not as prevalent by a long shot.

But that doesn't even touch on the relevant issue, which is that the term "do-rag," which was your choice of words in the original post, is NOT associated with biker culture, or any aspects of Hispanic or white culture, but rather with the "bling bling" culture that you described.

I think we can all agree that race is a more complicated issue than biker apparel so let's not even get into that analogy. Ditto on the kimono/bling bling -- I agree that there is a difference but not big enough to negate the comparison.

And what it comes down to is that nobody is playing the race card, or trying to make this into a race issue. This is a race issue, pure and simple. You were the one that brought it up, thus you were the one that "made it into a race issue."

Rudey 10-30-2003 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST
Adult discussions aren't about changing opinions. They are about sharing them.
Adult discussions are about sharing for sure.

-Rudey
--But usually they cost 2.99 the first minute and then 1.99 every minute after that.

lovelyivy84 10-30-2003 04:26 PM

I disagree. We share our opinions, but discussions are ultimately about examining all angles of an issue and the POSSIBILITY of change. You don't have that here. You can share and share as much as you like with no effect whatsoever. Chances are someone will either accuse you of being "ilk" or turn the thread into a whose is bigger contest.

Pointless.

Rudey 10-30-2003 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
But that doesn't even touch on the relevant issue, which is that the term "do-rag," which was your choice of words in the original post, is NOT associated with biker culture, or any aspects of Hispanic or white culture, but rather with the "bling bling" culture that you described.
So why did Uncle Jesse (who is a big prick and needs to get dumped by Rebecca since she wants some of me) call it that?

-Rudey

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
So why did Uncle Jesse (who is a big prick and needs to get dumped by Rebecca since she wants some of me) call it that?

-Rudey

Because Full House was written by conservative middle-aged white men whose mamas didn't let them ride motorcycles, and they did not understand the nuances of biker culture.

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
says who?

I have ALWAYS heard it referred to as a do-rag, and i grew up with white people. We would laugh at the white trash folks and their do-rags. When my hair was longer in HS i would wear one around the house and my grandmother would tell me to take my do-rag off. So, i'm sorry if some other culture in America has taken the phrase 'do-rag' and made it "THEIRS". I will heretofore ask permission of all cultures before i use any phrases that they may also use.

traditional cultural dress does NOT equal hip hop dress. I'm sorry, but it doesn't. thousands of years of tradition do NOT equal 10 years of exposed boxers.

Why is hip hop fashion soley a racial issue? i posit that you see just as many white or hispanic or indian kids wearing this clothing as black kids. The majority of the young people on the rez up here wear that crap, so by saying i think it's stupid i am NOT saying that one race's culture is stupid.

Kitso
KS 361

I'm glad your family was so equal opportunity, but honestly? If you take a survey of the average American, the connotation the majority of them would have with the word "do rag" would either be of a black person, or of a person of another race imitating what they consider to be black culture. The term "do rag" originated with African-Americans (originally it was used by African women in slavery; it was the thing they put over their hair while they conditioned it to straighten it) . . . thus no, blacks are not taking an aspect of American culture and making it "theirs," the rest of Americans are taking an aspect of black culture and making it THEIRS. Let's not get started on cultural appropriation.

Senusret I 10-30-2003 04:56 PM

http://www.mcgregorsmartialarts.com/...ages/dorag.jpg This is a do-rag. Do-rags are usually made of synthetic, silk-like fabric. They have a form....they fit the top of your head, flow out in the back, and may be tied with two strings at either side. (The strings are just an extension of the fabric.)

Bandanas are squares of cotton fabric. A bandana COULD be called a do-rag if it indeed protects your (hair)do, BUT because true do-rags allow the hair to "breathe" while protecting it from the elements and being mussed, it is much better for your hair than a cotton square. They are different.

I am not sure what the difference is between those two and the biker headwrap is.

Rudey 10-30-2003 05:07 PM

Am I retarded or something because i have no idea what the hell you guys are all arguing about.

-Rudey
--Sometimes I like to wear a crown around because I'm royalty but i'd be ok with the working class wearing crowns and stuff occasionally.

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
This is a do-rag. Do-rags are usually made of synthetic, silk-like fabric. They have a form....they fit the top of your head, flow out in the back, and may be tied with two strings at either side. (The strings are just an extension of the fabric.)

Bandanas are squares of cotton fabric. A bandana COULD be called a do-rag if it indeed protects your (hair)do, BUT because true do-rags allow the hair to "breathe" while protecting it from the elements and being mussed, it is much better for your hair than a cotton square. They are different.

I am not sure what the difference is between those two and the biker headwrap is.

Biker headwraps would be more similar to the do-rag, but with different shaped "tails" in the back and usually made of a different fabric (often cotton).

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Originally posted by Rudey
Am I retarded or something because i have no idea what the hell you guys are all arguing about.

-Rudey
--Sometimes I like to wear a crown around because I'm royalty but i'd be ok with the working class wearing crowns and stuff occasionally.

And by "crown," he means tiara.

Rudey 10-30-2003 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
And by "crown," he means tiara.
Don't hate.

-Rudey
--I look pretty.

damasa 10-30-2003 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Suspension Bridge Blaine!!!

Kitso
KS 361 flying camels in my nerd glasses, just for Jules :D

Dude, it's all about the Eiffel. That's the only way to go.

GeekyPenguin 10-30-2003 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
OH

MY

GAAAAAAAAAAWD!

ROTFLMGDAO!!!


Ok ok I was kidding, I think my girlfriends (Kath, FAB, Heather)would get mad if I cheated on them.


Sorry for the thread hijack kitso!
So the consensus is.....huge baggy pants, yes or no??

We sure would! We're not bi, we're straight up girly. ;)

I vote no on the huge baggy pants, unless they are for bed and I can floor you.

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 07:13 PM

Hey now.


Kath is one of those "trendy bisexuals."

damasa 10-30-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Hey now.


Kath is one of those "trendy bisexuals."

You aren't allowed to talk "spirit fingers."

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 07:20 PM

My secret is out. :(

GeekyPenguin 10-30-2003 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Hey now.


Kath is one of those "trendy bisexuals."

Hey Kettle! It's me, the Pot!

sugar and spice 10-30-2003 08:16 PM

Why did I let you guys be friends with me in the first place?


Are you coming to play with me for Halloween?

GeekyPenguin 10-30-2003 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Why did I let you guys be friends with me in the first place?


Are you coming to play with me for Halloween?

Maybe maybe, since I'm not going to Platteville. :mad:

And we let YOU be friends with US.

Get it straight, missy. :p

AXJules 10-30-2003 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
We sure would! We're not bi, we're straight up girly. ;)

I vote no on the huge baggy pants, unless they are for bed and I can floor you.

And suddenly it becomes clear who's the domineering one of the group.....:D :D

Come play up here!!! Please?! I'll be so bored otherwise!

AXJules 10-30-2003 08:55 PM

And to the rest of you all-
Sorry but this thread is


GHEY.


Whoever said we can't have a discussion without hurling insults is totally right.

GeekyPenguin 10-30-2003 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
And suddenly it becomes clear who's the domineering one of the group.....:D :D

Come play up here!!! Please?! I'll be so bored otherwise!

I've got it, Jules! You and Kiki can road-trip up to Milwaukee tomorrow. We leave your car here and road-trip to Madison to see Heather! It's a perfect solution! :p

Also, should I order in some dinner or have Easy Mac? I can't decide. I really don't have money, and I'm fungry.

AXJules 10-30-2003 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I've got it, Jules! You and Kiki can road-trip up to Milwaukee tomorrow. We leave your car here and road-trip to Madison to see Heather! It's a perfect solution! :p

Also, should I order in some dinner or have Easy Mac? I can't decide. I really don't have money, and I'm fungry.

A+++ idea dude!

I would say, make like 3 packs of easy mac and put in some extra cheese. Add some bread and you've (kinda) got a meal.

Although, if you eat like I do, that would be an appetizer. :D

GeekyPenguin 10-30-2003 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
A+++ idea dude!

I would say, make like 3 packs of easy mac and put in some extra cheese. Add some bread and you've (kinda) got a meal.

Although, if you eat like I do, that would be an appetizer. :D

I made 2 packs...no extra cheese, since it's "EXTREME CHEESE" Easy Mac. I forgot to use Brita water though, so it tastes kind of crypto. :p

I think the Fab 4 should make Blaine be our houseboy and cook us delicacies before we whore him out to the women of GC.

FAB*SpiceySpice 10-30-2003 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin

I think the Fab 4 should make Blaine be our houseboy and cook us delicacies before we whore him out to the women of GC.


I completely agree.

What was the point of this thread anyway, I got lost after about the third page. Oh well. :(

GeekyPenguin 10-30-2003 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by FAB*SpiceySpice
I completely agree.

What was the point of this thread anyway, I got lost after about the third page. Oh well. :(

I think it was trying to start a race war. But I don't understand THE NUMBERS so I might be wrong.

Let's talk about the PHAB PHOUR instead. :p

AXJules 10-31-2003 12:00 AM

Agreed. (I'm sure Heather would if she were here.)

They were all calling each other mean names anyway, I think this thread has been successfully hijacked and wasted.


Hi pretties!!! Happy Halloween!

GeekyPenguin 10-31-2003 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by AXJules
Agreed. (I'm sure Heather would if she were here.)

They were all calling each other mean names anyway, I think this thread has been successfully hijacked and wasted.


Hi pretties!!! Happy Halloween!

Happy Halloween to my three favorite GC girlfriends! Think of all the Panhellenic love we're showing...even if Tri Delta totally stole all the crescent moon stuff from us. At least we don't have pitchforks. ;)

Jules, Kiki and I are chatting right now...IM one of us if you want to come play!

AXJules 10-31-2003 12:04 AM

IM name??? I feel so out of it :(
(Meaning, what is yours???)

cashmoney 10-31-2003 12:06 AM

Re: PHat Like Me
 
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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
PHat people suck.

That is the stupidest fashion trend ever. Big baggy jeans, sports jerseys, do-rags, bling bling, hats and visors worn at crazy angles <shakes head>

Seriously, pull your damn pants up, none of us want to see your damn boxers.





Unless you're a crack dealin gansta, you shouldn't dress like that.

GeekyPenguin 10-31-2003 12:06 AM

I PMed ya, cutie.

And Heather, WHERE ARE YOU? You are missing all the fun!

wreckingcrew 10-31-2003 12:18 AM

Re: Re: PHat Like Me
 
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Originally posted by cashmoney
Unless you're a crack dealin gansta, you shouldn't dress like that.
holy crap.

me and cash$$ agree on something.

Y'all better be lookin over your shoulders for the 4 horseman :p

Kitso
KS 361 hijacked posts on a thread about DO-RAGS!

cashmoney 10-31-2003 12:20 AM

Re: Re: Re: PHat Like Me
 
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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
holy crap.

me and cash$$ agree on something.

Y'all better be lookin over your shoulders for the 4 horseman :p

Kitso




I swear, sometimes I feel like doing this to those people........

http://www.director-file.com/cunningham/5266.jpg

GeekyPenguin 10-31-2003 12:22 AM

Oh sick that picture was gross. We need to get a new page so I never have to see it again.

cashmoney 10-31-2003 12:24 AM

lol

AXJules 10-31-2003 12:27 AM

OOOOH can we turn this into a picture thread????

Here's kind of a scary Halloween one:
http://www.aleut4u.com/Indian%20Do%20Rag.jpg


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