Well it was offensive to me Kddanni to say what effectively amounts to while a person is standing there saying "uh yeah does anyone here speak english???? can anyone translate????". I found the implication that my communication skills were so entirely flawed as to require translating uncalled for, excuse me!

Well Kddanni, you've deleted the smiley's in this out of context quote so there's less chance of it being taken in the spirit it was meant, isn't there.

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Cluey, I only gave my opinions. They're just that - might be right, might be wrong. "Would you rather have people just ignore your replies or ask for a synopsis in order to reply to your argument?" -see above for why I made the 'uncalled for' remark I did; as I said earlier I'm happy to try and clarify if someone asks. If it comes down to posts like the one I commented on of course reading something like that isn't nice, no.

Actually Richard, I use SparkNotes when I am too lazy to read something long. For example, I would rather read the SparkNotes to Phaedo than Phaedo itself. My post was referring to the fact that your post was unnecessarily long-winded, and I wanted a synopsis.

I don't know if statements "the same things could be said with half the words" and "I could say the same things with half the words"... are both true :(. I do the best I can, inevitably I'm not going to be liked by everyone; that's life.

be nice yall :(

What did I miss that inspired Rudey's post? :confused:

decadence, I won't speak for anyone else. In my opinion, your posts are just so long that I tend to skip over them including the one is this thread. Brevity is the soul of wit. Know it, learn it, live it. :)

Well, interesting things happen when I'm away from GC for a few hours.

So, let's see if I'm understanding the original topic of the thread. Is it that since some people seem to get away with breaking the rules, we all should?

Or, is it that many would like to see the rules more strictly enforced? That would take a large percentage of the posts in the entire forum offline because of sexual conotation. (Yes, that is in the rules)

Maybe it's that everyone who disagrees with me (the universal me) should be banned -- and every post I don't agree with should be deleted. That would shorten the forum and save a whole lot of disk space.

How about, if you know the right computer tricks, you can beat the system?

Here's my take on this:

Anything without rules results in chaos. But, rules can be interpreted and, hopefully, liberally (no, I don't mean that politically) enough to allow us to all act like the adults we think we are.

The thing that I dislike most is any kind of uncalled for personal attack. If I ever get to the point of recommending someone is banned, that will be the reason.

That can be difficult and I have been guilty myself in retaliation, but if we really are adults, we can probably succeed.

okay with me

I read this post because it was short and to the point. Good job. ;)

Dec... seriously yo... I think a lot of people skip over your novel-like posts.

And I kinda agree and disagree on the topic. People like Sh80 who come "clean" so to speak, I think it's awesome that they come back and become great members of GC. I wasn't around for Sh80, but I know her posts are cool now.

On the other hand... Yeah I think it's ridiculous that people keep gettin banned, then come back, and get banned again.

I think it's even more ridiculous that there was an outburst of multi-personality-names (or whatever you would call it).

What the trukk happened to TheGrapist!???:(

This isn't English 101. Decadence at least writes in sentences and understands capitalization and punctuation.

If you object to reading that much, don't. Buy the Cliffs Notes or whatever.

There's a difference between content and style. You decide which is most important and read what you feel is important.

This is actually a really good point.



But besides that, I see it like this: people type whatever they want. If it's bad, it gets erased. If its repeatedly offensive and the right people complain, they're rerouted (sorry no one on this site is banned) until they rack their brains for a newer, cooler name and someone else to harass on GC. If they continue to be an idiot, the process continues.

Yes, talking about things would probably get some stuff resolved. Unfortunately that is something most people here do not want to do. It took me 4 months to get someone to notice that a certain mod was actually someone's service fraternity sister with a different name.....


One other thing- from what I understand it's not really by choice that people aren't concretely banned- correct me if I'm wrong but I thought John couldn't ban IP addresses, meaning someone on the same computer can keep coming back again and again. If that's true, there's really nothing he can do.

It's about 2:30AM and I just got home and loved the Yankees game. The last thing I will do is read volume A of the Encylopedia Britannica.

-Rudey
--So here's a NY style slice of "shut the hell up"!

i like when people use the word "harassed". how can someone do that on a message board...? especially a board with an IGNORE feature.

and yes, people are banned. i was gone for about 8 months until i asked john if i could come back.

did i come back during that time? nope.

did i create a new name in that time? nope.

i think you shoulda got a temporary ban when you flipped out on me calling me "piece of **it" and "f this and that".

anyhow, you know whats alot more pathetic then coming back over and over on a message board...? when certain users go to exotic places...uhh let's just say cancun...and hook up with other gc'ers. thats just CRAZY!

I feel like a peacemaker between the bloods and the crips. Can we seriously put aside all other arguments and realize there is just one super annoying prick on this forum who we all want to punch in the larynx?

And why was my post in "Random" deleted? What was not true about what I'd written? This kid is worse than hunts point trash. I can't even stand reading the crap he writes anymore and putting him on ignore didn't help since people quote his posts. If you seriously find that crap he writes funny, you've got the IQ of a toaster. So why don't you mods contact John and have him take an extra 10 seconds out of his day to ban him and to take another 10 seconds out of every day for each new username that comes up.

-Rudey
--So easy.

Edited to add- this is to Imthechamp-

Let me first say that I think this belongs in PM's, but let's see how long we can keep this civil.

You can harass on a message board. Look, I used to think you were funny, then I felt like you crossed the line. Even if I ignored you, I had 15 pms from people telling me all the crap you were saying about me hooking up with people (totally untrue) and then going to other threads and telling people I take medication. I asked you to stop. You didn't. I pmmed mods and John, and aside from deleting what you wrote, nothing was done.

I click in another thread and there's more of the same crap.

Look dude, it takes a lot to piss me off. I am one of the most sarcastic people here. Calling me a whore, however, is not something I'm going to tolerate, especially when I know you're just making up things that people will believe. I am not going to say that my reaction was appropriate, but you were WAY out of line with the things you said.

I am above getting pissed at the last part of your post- I wouldn't touch James or anyone else on this board with a 40 foot pole so stop being an idiot and spreading lies. Thanks and have a fabulous nite.

P.S. Your point about coming back is what??? You're back and still acting innappropriately.

What if we put a filter on this forum.....kinda like a bad word filter, except it limits sentences to nothing more than 80 words????

Decadence would still be muffeled and the rest of us would have words to spare.

i just wanna know how i harassed you? i remember saying something like "uh oh, axjules and james did the nonodance" and you flipped out. you NEVER asked me to stop. instead you started calling me asshole and piece of poopoo. if you would of asked me in a pm or whatever to STFU, i wouldn't have said anything else about it. btw i never called you a whore

i never really get pissed off at what people say on a message board (cuz im better then everyone here), but when you said i harassed you, i was like wtf?

anyhow...as for 15 people im'n you?? im pretty sure thats NOT an exagerration, because there are tons of people here with no lives and are always lookin to cause drama.

and as for me acting inappropriate...how am i??? seriously...i can't even cuss or state my opinions anymore. i used to think i was clever and witty, but now im just as bad as decadence.

this place sucks cuz people LOVE the drama and they LOVE to cause it, but when someone smashes on them, they are SOOOOO quick to hit that report button.

I completely agree with this. I think this sums up about 85% of everyone here, which is why I really only talk to a handful of people. You just can't take it seriously. You and I could possibly get along if you'd just drop this me and James crap :rolleyes:

I have never reported anyone besides you. I don't really know how else to say that nothing fazes me, but you crossed the line. Especially when you moved it into other threads...perfect example- you knew saying that about me got us in trouble last time, yet you did it again about 4 posts above. Why? Because you love the drama too.

Not much else to say- I've never told you not to state your opinions, but for some reason you get a kick out of spreading stuff about me that isn't true, and I'm asking you to stop.

I don't know why I am still up, but that just cracked me up. Thanks Rudey!

dude...are you serious? like 2 days after that happened, i totally forgot about it. i honestly didnt know anything about you or james or whatever happened in cancun.

did i know it would offend you? nope

if you would of let me know somehow, i prolly would of stopped and it would of been dropped. instead, you started the name calling and i started saying you were on medication. we were both acting stupid.

am i immature? yes.

i dont care for any drama. everything i say is in an open area (like aim chats or here).

i dont go around PM'n people that you slept with soandso, or this person met that person. i leave all that crap up to firecracker and decadence.

i just dont care enough.

and i just meant that i cant even state my opinions anymore because i said women who wanted abortions should be given the death penalty and someone PM'd john and said i stated all women should be murdered.

im pretty sure this is true.

i get along with most people who IM me (unless they IM me then go off and tell people i want them and i'll never have them even though i never expressed interest in them)

if you really are that sarcastic chick who goofs around alot, im pretty sure we'd be cool.

"AXJules" this is one of the main reasons I put you on ignore quite a while ago. Unfortunately I still see your posts when I'm not logged in (browsing as a guest). This is my point. No attacks made toward you, it's gotta be a couple of months since I put you on ignore so we wouldn't butt heads (I don't come here for that) but you still come out of nowhere and make little personal snipes. I could make one now and am itching to but I'm trying to be a lil' mature.
Okay then. You're wrong. Banning IP address is possible, it just has limited usage... if someone has a dialup connection the IP address can change each time and banning a range of IP adresses can block out legitimate people too. Even if the user isn't on dialup there're ways to get round it after being banned by their IP address (which I won't post here).

::shrug:: You post something on a forum people might respond. I did.

Imthechamp: Your humor in the last couple of posts wasn't lost on me but I will still for the record just comment to you that I don't PM people that person A sleeps with person B or any other gossip via PMs nor (as you seem to think and suggested before) do I spend all my time clicking Report post on you (I reported one post period, ages ago when two insults were made by you to me - one I ignored as if I dish it I should take it; the other was reported only since it was bigoted and over-the-line. So far as I recall that's all I've ever reported on you and it was reported cuz of the post itself not who it came from). But I realise you still think I'm Cashmoney (despite John saying otherwise) so I'm not too bothered. :p

This is a case of those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You say a lot of uncalled for things.

What smilies? There was one at the end, the tongue sticking out one, sorry it didn't cut and paste. didn't change the "spirit" of it at all.

You have made many many insults and said many nasty things on here, so stop this innocent BS.

So smilies negate your so-called "insults"?

:) Stop writing posts so damn long that no one can read them and any points that you actually may have get lost because they're hidden among a bunch of superfluous words. Paragraphs and other stylistic aids are a good thing :)

:) Stop getting in everyone's business and acting like you know everything about everything. :)

:)You've talked a lot of isht on people, and anytime anyone says the slightest thing about you you get all up in arms. Don't be such a hypocrite :)

And now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

I don't know where to begin...
 

Er no Kddanni that is not how the post in the Random thread which you took out of context was, at all. THAT post was obviously tongue in cheek. This is clear by the fact it followed a burst of fury (someone's post) with the comment about midol and a hot water bottle and yes, there was a smiley further indicating it was a tongue in cheek comment. Quite how you managed to decide it was in total seriousness and a direct insult is unknown! I was not actually making a suggestion Rudey has a uterus and requires medication for 'women's troubles'. :rolleyes: - Banter. And when Rudey responded about throwing a jab back in my kidneys *I* didn't rush to report anything or call an attorney, I took it in the spirit it was meant.

No idea who the random thread post was called an insult by - except perhaps you, who could not detect it as banter.

"You have made many many insults and said many nasty things on here"
That's not how I think of my posting style, but okay. No doubt you have a library of insults I have made that weren't purely defensive/retaliatory in response to someone else instigating trouble???
Paragraphs are lovely I use them all the time; I do not know what you mean by your last two points if anything so I cannot respond. In total honesty your comments seem - to me - to be a attempt to shoot off a round at me regardless of whether there's any foundation to the comments or not.

Most people here are of undergraduate or graduate level (/beyond) so nope, I don't feel a need to constantly dumb down my posts or reduce them since those people who want to read them do and those who don't have the right to read some other's instead.

It took me a whole 10 minutes to read this thread. I have no clue what started this, and while it is interesting to read, I just wonder how many people could care less.

Not to be trite or condemning in any way, I just wonder if it is worth all the angst and bickering. This is just a message board.

Best thread on GC right now!
 

Because it is dramatic? NO. BECAUSE IT IS HONEST. I think this one thread has actually brought up so many things that fly around in PM's/IM's and for some reason people are scared to say out loud.

For people who are lost, I think I can break down exactly what this thread is about (including tangents).

UF Pike has come back under several usernames, and is no less annoying each time. This begs the question...why ban people if they can just come back?

Decadence - you talk too much. And you WHINE a lot too. It is unanimous. I am sorry if this hurts your feelings, but hey, it's TRUE. Deal with it.

AXJules/Imthachamp - seemed to have worked things out on their own, none of my business.

My 2 cents..I have never ignored anyone nor reported anyone on this site. While I am annoyed or even pissed at times by what I read, it is never that serious to me.

thank you for the break down!! i was so confused!

ps - love your signature!!

http://www.tarwater.net/media/images/thousucketh.jpg

Kitso
KS 361

If you like it, you should check out the song MILKSHAKE by Kelis. In fact everyone should because it is the best song ever.

Re: Best thread on GC right now!
 

For real.

I don't understand... :confused:

Why are people sooooo SCARED to confront people directly on the internet? It's not like you are going to get your azz kicked, lol.

Don't be skurred!!!

ohhh, fight! fight! fight! :):cool:

Re: Re: Best thread on GC right now!
 

Folks generally avoid confrontation. Many folks on here are not very skilled at overcoming contraversy and making it something positive.

Ya'll have to admit, folks on here have very little patience and acceptance for contrary points of view.

90% of the contraversy on here exists because people adopt a "my way or the highway"mentality.

So what's to gain by confronting folks? Generally speaking.. drama, backstabbing, stupid crap that we should have grown out of in HS.

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Every semester as part of our active chapter's membership program, I teach a few leadership classes. My favorite is called "Contraversy with Civility". Now, if I could teach a web course over it, I think many folks on here would stand to benefit.

Maybe if certain individuals would adopt a policy of acknowledging other folk's points, pointing out similarities, looking for collaberative conclusions, etc.. contraversy/confrontation could be productive. As it is, here, too often, it ends in a locked thread.

I am surprised Cream, I wouldn't have expected you to post something that could be interperated as patronizing.

I am surprised James, I thought you would have come to your home boy's defense by now.

-Rudey
--Oh we're all throwing mud in each other's faces now.

Dum da da dum..............
I'm on IGNORE???!!!! I feel so cool!
That cracks me up....I don't think people pay attention to most of what I post, you and I have never even had a conversation and I'm on ignore??! That's awesome! Had I known that, I would have posted how annoying/whiny/nails on a chalkboard grating you are a long time ago. Really though buddy- you might want to look into it, its not just me that thinks this. As far as you being mature, I don't call getting on a message board and sobbing about every little injustice mature. It's quite the opposite.

For the record, if your long winded posts were amusing/interesting/true/useful/humorous/NOT WHINY/ or added any value to most discussions here I'd read and love every single one.



So what you're saying is that John can't ban IP addresses.

Decadence? I barely interact with him, although I do believe people are being mean to him and I have no idea why. I must have missed something in chat lol.

But hush Rudey or we will have to stop swapping training tips. ;)

Axjules et al.
 

I am not sure how I came into something between Axjules and imthechamp but just to be clear:

As charming as Axjules is and as flattered as I am at the assumption I can assure you that nothing took place between us in the 10 minutes we interacted. :)

Ditto.

I like Richard (Decadence)...I'm still wondering what all the fuss is about.

I feel someone has their panties in a twist. :p

You know Rudey, I tried to stay out of this and not comment but you have some serious issues. You have a lot of anger built up inside and are acting like a little kid who isn't getting enough attention. I'm sure you find it amusing smearing people all over the board, or at least that seems to be the case with one person. And I'm sure that if each user actually voted, you're just as annoying as the next person. I find you and your posts to be rude, you've made perfectly clear that you don't like "said" person or his posts. This is the internet, why do you let things get to you so much? You need to go see a shrink if you let someone on a message board enrage you this much. Its obvious that said person is not going anywhere, if anything you might be the next person to be gone. At the rate you're going it wouldn't be much of a surprise. The general message behind your post is true, basically it's just a rewrite of what I posted in the Hierarchy thread. This time the message is primarily in reference to one particular person rather than actually focusing on the issue at hand, thanks to you.


As for your post in the random thread, you took bits and pieces of different events and twisted all of it together. Your post was a personal attack and a flame, hence the deletion. You say that you're post was true? What was true about it? UFpike wearing a speedo last Halloween while messed up on E, G and Viagra? Ok, and you're pissed about that? Why? UFpike bought some Airforce Ones last year and started a thread about it, and you're still pissed? Why? He's still in school after starting in 1998, you're not paying his tuition so why does that bother you? There are many other people on GC who are in that situation but for some reason you feel the need to bring that up, congrats Rudey. He says he's professionally apart of the Florida club scene, how do you know he's not? And why does it enrage you that he says he's apart of it? Are you jealous? I don't think you are, I just think you find it hard to believe and you don't want to see someone like him truly being involved in that scene. In case you didn't know (but I doubt you care), the oldest dance club still running in the United States is in Gainesville, Florida. Its been going strong since 1990. UFpike has admitted to doing a number of drugs and constantly talked about being in clubs, techno music and deejaying. Is it really that hard to believe that maybe, just maybe he is telling the truth?? You think he's stupid? Ok, fine. So do a lot of other people here. And there are others who like him. Why does his stupidity still enrage you? So what if he writes stupid stuff, not everyone is going to like what he writes. He's been around for a number of years. Are you ever going to let it go? Is it too hard to understand that there are some people in this world that you will never like, but being as the two of you are apart of the same online community you two will need to learn to avoid each other? Correct me if I'm wrong, but he didn't do anything outrageous under the Sverige name unless flamed first. I think that banning had more to do with it being advised by other people. But as kddani stated, "John has the final authority on a banning."

Also, I don't recall him ever attacking you or starting flamatory threads about you out in the forum. In fact, I'd like to see ONE single thread where he said ANYTHING flamatory to you. Maybe you don't like what he says to girls, but I doubt he thinks it gets him anywhere on this web site. And for you to call someone a loser, whom you only know as a name, says a lot about your character. Maybe you need to change. I'd like to know what makes you better than him? What makes him a loser and not you? Are you nicer than than he currently is? Oh, I forgot, you already graduated from college and he hasn't. He's admitted to doing drugs and you haven't. He's been banned from GC and came back a lot nicer, you have yet to be banned for your rudeness. You antagonize people on GC now days and he doesn't. Wow, you're really cool Rudey. The thing with this forum is that there are scapegoats. A few weeks ago it was Rudey, in the past it was Decadence, Imthechamp as well as UFpike/Sverige.

The problem with UFpike begins with peoples perception of him in the past. Under UFpike he was horrible, under UFpikePC98 he was still bad but somewhat reformed, under Sverige I don't think he did anything wrong. It could be argued that him and kddani fighting was a no no, but thats another topic. In case you havent noticed, most of the people posting in this thread are those who were around when the SN UFpike/PC98 was around. And its not hard to believe that because of his past many people refuse to believe that someone like him can change. On the the other hand, how many Vs were there? Were you even around for the Vs? What current SN was once the Vs? I think some people need to get off their high horse and chill. There's nobody on this site that I really have a hatred for, nobody. What good does it do to hate someone? All it does is build walls higher and higher. I'm sure that with your thoughts you can't grasp what I'm trying to say here, but you need to.

Long winded, I know. But, this is all I'm saying on this situation.