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damasa 10-08-2003 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by bethany1982
The Democrats have already cut education and raised the fees for higher education in recent months, after promising not to touch either in the last election. At the same time, they have proposed giving certain illegal aliens a free ride in CA Community Colleges. Raise rates for some and cut programs for others, but give a free ride to illegals. Only in California. CA has gone from a 30 billion dollar surplus to at least a 10 billion dollar deficit in the past 5 years and it seems the majority of CA voters are ready for a change in management.
So where is the 10 billlion going to come from after Arnold cuts taxes?

Munchkin03 10-08-2003 01:14 PM

I would rather have better public higher education and slightly higher taxes.

But what do I know? Florida doesn't do income tax, and I went to out-of-state private schools. :confused:

Only in America can a former Mr. Olympia from Austria become governor of California. ;)

I'm concerned that this might be a rude awakening for some of the people who elected him. He may be a Republican, but he seems very progressive.

DeltAlum 10-08-2003 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by bethany1982
The Democrats have already cut education and raised the fees for higher education in recent months, after promising not to touch either in the last election.
My desire generally is to try not to make decisions on a "Republican/Democrat -- Conservative/Liberal" reasoning because I don't consider myself any of the above.

And, I'm pretty tired of hearing the sanctimonious baying from both sides.

However, when the present governor of Colorado (Republican) took office, the state had a huge budget surplus handed over by the previous governor and fairly evenly divided legislature. He ran on a tax cut platform, cut taxes and now we have a huge budget crisis.

President Bush ran on a tax cut platform. There was allegedly a surplus and we were paying off the national debt. So, we get a nominal tax cut, and a very expensive war at the same time. I might be OK with one or the other. But do the Arithmetic -- it's not even tough enough to be called Math. You simply can't spend more and take in less and expect it to work -- I don't care which party is in or who is President.

Unless, of course, you drastically cut costs and programs.

By the time tax cuts are spread across the general population, they really don't mean much in terms of spendable income. They are a purely political animal -- something to get people elected -- and, unfortunately the average taxpayer/voter doesn't realize how little it actually puts back in her/his pocket as opposed to the effect on the lives of everyone.

Edited to try to catch all of the typos and spelling errors.

texas*princess 10-08-2003 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
How do you feel about rapidly rising tuition and fees because of less federal and state aid?
Welcome to Texas!!!!

They officially uncapped tuiton for public universities so now they can charge whatever!

Pink&Blue 10-08-2003 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by phikappapsiman
Congratulations Arnold...however...

If Governor Arnold repeals the car tax fee, as he said he would, where is he going to come up with the funds to balance the budget?

But of course the Bay Area counties are the only ones in the state to vote against the recall-not only are we not able to put a championship pro football or baseball team on the field, we also vote to keep Gray! I think that it was still the shock of both the A's and Giants losing!!!
:D

1. He better repeal the car tax or we are going to have a lot of unregistered cars, including mine, driving around. My reg fees for my 2003 VW were already $500, and now they are going to be $1500?? I don't think so.

2. Los Angeles county also voted against the recall. Which is pretty much how I thought it would end up-- LA and Bay Area against it.

MareImbrium 10-08-2003 02:49 PM

This is going to be incredibly weird. I was on the mindset that even if we the recall came through, can the new governor really be capable enough to handle all the financial burdens the state is facing. I honestly think Arnold only won for the fact that everyone knows him. My mom even once told me, "If I register to vote, I would just vote for Arnold since I know the actor." Btw, she didn't register. Anyhow we'll see how this all plays out.

Pink&Blue 10-08-2003 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by angelic1
I just started laughing when I heard that he wanted to do this.. its obvious he hasnt been doing his research to see what happened in VA. When Gilmore was trying to get elected with the slogan "no car tax" I thought people were fools for voting for him. People now see the mistakes and why taxes are neccessary and why CA only needs more at this point.

The issue isn't NO car tax, but don't raise the car tax by 300% which is what Davis did. Californians already pay one of the highest car registration rates in the country, and like I said in my last post $1500 to register my $25K car is ridiculous!

adpialumcsuc 10-08-2003 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Pink&Blue
The issue isn't NO car tax, but don't raise the car tax by 300% which is what Davis did. Californians already pay one of the highest car registration rates in the country, and like I said in my last post $1500 to register my $25K car is ridiculous!
I agree!!!! We have a 1948 Willy Jeep that my husband uses for put around town and out registration hiked to over $400...I don't think so....I had to non-op it until the car tax drops.

SapphireSphinx9 10-08-2003 04:33 PM

My car registration is up in December... Thank goodness I got my paperwork last week! I sure did register it online, at $95, instead of waiting until December and paying almost $300. BTW, I have a 1993 Ford Taurus.

About the school tuition. We've already felt the pain of this. I am enrolled in a 3-unit class (that's it... only one class) and my tuition at a CSU is $850!! :eek: Our community colleges have gone up too. It use to be that CC's were free, now students have to pay around $20 a unit.

My feeling about Arnold being elected is shock! I honestly don't understand how so many Californian's could vote for someone who wasn't experienced in politics, especially with this big burden of the budget to face. (I obvisouly didn't vote for him...) I was talking with some family members of mine, and they told me that they were gonna vote for him, only because they knew that everyone else was going to, so why split the vote? WTF??? Why not vote for who you think is most qualified??? Isn't that what you're suppose to do??? I donno... I pray that he can handle it, and actually follow through with his promises, unlike all politicians before him.

smiley21 10-08-2003 06:06 PM

omg, have you seen 'the fabulous life of arnold'? he is worth over 800 million. he owns 9 hummers, 3 mercedes, 1 cadillac, 1 porshe, 1 tank, 1 plane, and i forget the rest. he lives the pefect life. and the fact that he is married to a kennedy, ....my word

Rudey 10-08-2003 06:09 PM

Because our country was built on the fact that career politicians are not a good thing. Whether or not there are career politicians does not mean it's what's right.

-Rudey
--Your state is pretty messed up.

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Originally posted by SapphireSphinx9
My car registration is up in December... Thank goodness I got my paperwork last week! I sure did register it online, at $95, instead of waiting until December and paying almost $300. BTW, I have a 1993 Ford Taurus.

About the school tuition. We've already felt the pain of this. I am enrolled in a 3-unit class (that's it... only one class) and my tuition at a CSU is $850!! :eek: Our community colleges have gone up too. It use to be that CC's were free, now students have to pay around $20 a unit.

My feeling about Arnold being elected is shock! I honestly don't understand how so many Californian's could vote for someone who wasn't experienced in politics, especially with this big burden of the budget to face. (I obvisouly didn't vote for him...) I was talking with some family members of mine, and they told me that they were gonna vote for him, only because they knew that everyone else was going to, so why split the vote? WTF??? Why not vote for who you think is most qualified??? Isn't that what you're suppose to do??? I donno... I pray that he can handle it, and actually follow through with his promises, unlike all politicians before him.


Tom Earp 10-08-2003 06:30 PM

So, Arnold is A Moderate Rep! OOHY, Maria is a Demo Family! The word I get is She did the who will star with Arnold! Who will be on teheStar set and in the movie!

WOW Jessie Lucky you had just Minnesota!

While all I have have Read On Gray, he was a cold Fish and an Ass Whole!:o

But, one must really come to the Realization, the Legislature is the ones who really F Ued!

Welcome to the real world of Polotics!
:mad:

There asre still 3 separate divisions between both!

Ah Ca. the Landfill Of Fruits- O- Nurts! Oh for the Puristist of Ca. NUTS!:rolleyes:

Rudey 10-08-2003 06:36 PM

Actually it was Gray who ran a scam on the media involving some major economic numbers and didn't release them until after his election.

-Rudey

bethany1982 10-08-2003 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Actually it was Gray who ran a scam on the media involving some major economic numbers and didn't release them until after his election.

-Rudey

Right you are!

The1calledTKE 10-08-2003 07:35 PM

I think Arnold winning will help the democrats in the long run. Just wait a year of him being in office and you will see what I mean.

chopper816 10-08-2003 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Hootie
First California...Next The White House.... j/k ;)


nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! bush rules! he needs to stay! :) :p

HBADPi 10-08-2003 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by smiley21
omg, have you seen 'the fabulous life of arnold'? he is worth over 800 million. he owns 9 hummers, 3 mercedes, 1 cadillac, 1 porshe, 1 tank, 1 plane, and i forget the rest. he lives the pefect life. and the fact that he is married to a kennedy, ....my word
Someone please explain to me why anyone would need 9 hummers!! NO need!!

Maybe he should help the deficit and donate some of his own earnings, god knows he would still have enough to live off.

smiley21 10-08-2003 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
Someone please explain to me why anyone would need 9 hummers!! NO need!!

Maybe he should help the deficit and donate some of his own earnings, god knows he would still have enough to live off.

he was the first in the country to have a civilian hummer

Rudey 10-08-2003 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
Someone please explain to me why anyone would need 9 hummers!! NO need!!

Maybe he should help the deficit and donate some of his own earnings, god knows he would still have enough to live off.

Because Clinton decided he was going to auction some of the stuff he stole from the White House when he left to cover the deficit.

-Rudey
--Duh!

MereMere21 10-08-2003 08:26 PM

maybe thats Arnold's plan - he is going to donate his extreme wealth to get CA out of the budget crisis.

James 10-08-2003 10:39 PM

Wait wait wait!!!

You mean there really was a recall election and Arnold really ran and won?? Here in NJ we just thought it was a teaser for a new movie . . .

Truly, life is stranger than fiction . . .

DeltaSig 10-08-2003 10:44 PM

GOP!!!
 
As an active member of the RNC I'm excited once again that GOP takes another Governship in a major state. Here in TX, FL, NY, CA all have (R) Governors. Now Arnie has to work with Legislature which is sadly dominated by democrats and liberals

Glitter650 10-08-2003 11:04 PM

== Sigh == I'm rather ashamed to be from a state being lead by "the Governator" We'll see what happens, if ole' Aronld can help get my tuition back down I may sing a different tune.. but personally I think that this recall was crazy from the beginning. I think recalls should be reserved for governers who are seriously abusing their powers...not as a way to use the governor as a scapegoat for the financial problems that THE WHOLE COUNTRY is also going through. == steps off soap box and moves to Montana==

DeltAlum 10-09-2003 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by James
Truly, life is stranger than fiction . . .
Amen.

breathesgelatin 10-09-2003 12:26 AM

I'm just wondering how Maria Shriver feels about all this.

Deep down, she's got to be at little bit queasy.

smiley21 10-09-2003 04:59 AM

whoa i am confused. (i am too lazy to go through this whole tread) did arnold actually win? or did he just win the republican candidate and there is another election later? i heard from someone that this it will take a month to decide who is the winner.

SapphireSphinx9 10-09-2003 05:07 AM

He's won... On the 19th we'll know for sure, because of all the absentee ballots and stuff. But it looks like he's def. gonna be the Governer.


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