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SugarBlue 08-29-2003 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by ImDaChamp
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...3355730034.jpg

thats pretty hot.

I'm really pissed i had a meeting for my sorority and I missed it...does anyone know when it will reair?

SSS1365 08-29-2003 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by SugarBlue
I'm really pissed i had a meeting for my sorority and I missed it...does anyone know when it will reair?
Oh at least 50,000 times this weekend and then 50,000 more during the next month ;)

USFSDTAlum 08-29-2003 11:29 AM

Re: My VMA Comments
 
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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
  • That kiss was such a ratings ploy. Sorry to all the horny guys out there, but it was weak.
  • Chris Rock's opening was great. I loved all the Ashton/Punk'd jokes, especially about Bruce Willis..."I got your kids!"
  • There were some really good performances this year, I'll give MTV that. I really enjoyed 50 Cent's set and also Mary J's. Although I liked Xtina's, I was expecting something more...well...dirty (pun intended). I thought she'd have water on stage and re-enact some of the "Dirrty" video or something. I didn't expect her to be so tame.
  • I think one of my favorite moments was Eminem with the Crank Yankers puppet. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! :) What would have been even funnier is if the puppet had show up in the middle of 50 Cent's performance and said "It's my birthday, Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! and 50 started singing "In Da Club."
  • Beyonce, stop trying to be J. Lo...she's been copying J. Lo's outfits and now she's copying her hair. Newsflash: It doesn't look good on either one of you!
  • The way they presented the Lifetime Achievement Award to Duran Duran sucked. Okay, I know they were going for the element of surprise, but then it should have been a complete ploy and not presented the Dance award at all. Duran Duran is awesome...how are you going to give them a LAA, let them get over the shock and speak for about 30 seconds, and then play second fiddle to Justin receiving his award?!? TACKY!
  • I honestly was bored after the first hour and a half. The same handful of artists were up for every damn award (Em, 50, Beyonce, Coldplay, Justin, Missy). And not only that, but there were no unexpected moments, overly unusual sets, or crazy things happening like in previous years. I was really expecting MTV to go totally off the wall since it was the 20th VMA Celebration.



DITTO

We can call it why I lost all respect for Britney and Madonna. If they were at the top of their game and did that, thats cool, more power. But Brit's been on Hiatus for awhile now with a new album coming out, Madonna has become Madonna Who? With articles being written about she can't even sell a pair of Gap Khaki's anymore. So congrats to you two cheaply selling yourselves for some attention, maybe you could do something with your careers and get it legitmately without haveing to kiss to keep your careers from the downward spiral. :(
And thats all I have to say on that.

DZHBrown 08-29-2003 12:09 PM

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So congrats to you two cheaply selling yourselves for some attention, maybe you could do something with your careers and get it legitmately without haveing to kiss to keep your careers from the downward spiral.
THANK YOU!!! Britney seems to think slutting up her image will sell more records and Madonna seems to think that going back to her old ways will perk up her career. All it did was appeal to some horny guys and make them both look stupid. It's not a big shocker for Christina to do something like that and her career isn't in the dumps anyway.
It was a bad idea to put Christina and Britney singing together because it just accentuates how Britney has NO singing talent. She sounds like a little kid trying to sound like Madonna :rolleyes:

Peaches-n-Cream 08-29-2003 12:26 PM

Madonna and Christina and Brittney madeout. Take about attention whores! :rolleyes:

LeslieAGD 08-29-2003 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by DZHBrown
THANK YOU!!! Britney seems to think slutting up her image will sell more records and Madonna seems to think that going back to her old ways will perk up her career. All it did was appeal to some horny guys and make them both look stupid. It's not a big shocker for Christina to do something like that and her career isn't in the dumps anyway.
It was a bad idea to put Christina and Britney singing together because it just accentuates how Britney has NO singing talent. She sounds like a little kid trying to sound like Madonna :rolleyes:

You hit the nail on the head! You are absolutely correct!
It's not that it's okay for one to be provacative/sexual and not the other, it's just that Christina never pretended to be a goody-goody. Britney came out talking about how she was this sweet/innocent virgin girl-next-door and how she wanted to be a role model. Now she sees she can get more attention acting like a hoe...and that's how it comes off: as an act, as if she's forcing this sexy image. :rolleyes: Yes, Britney is a good performer, but she is no where near the same league as Christina in talent. Putting them together on stage made it blaringly obvious.

DZHBrown 08-29-2003 01:32 PM

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As many 'ghetto fab' or 'thug' socials that GLOs put together
You should know the answer to that question by now
Since not everyone puts on such socials, I'm not sure how we should all know the answer to this question.

UKDaisy 08-29-2003 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
You hit the nail on the head! You are absolutely correct!
It's not that it's okay for one to be provacative/sexual and not the other, it's just that Christina never pretended to be a goody-goody. Britney came out talking about how she was this sweet/innocent virgin girl-next-door and how she wanted to be a role model. Now she sees she can get more attention acting like a hoe...and that's how it comes off: as an act, as if she's forcing this sexy image. :rolleyes: Yes, Britney is a good performer, but she is no where near the same league as Christina in talent. Putting them together on stage made it blaringly obvious.


Ok, yes in the beginning(Baby Hit Me One More Time) Britney was trying to achieve that good girl image. But if you actually read articles she says that she didn't want to go that direction. B/c yes she likes to dress the way she does, and she likes to act out and have fun and do whatever she wants. The problem is that in the beginning they totally took her image to a "goody - goody" level, that NONE of us could achieve. It was very unrealistic. When "Britney" came out and Slave was the first single in a Rolling Stone article Britney said "I do not want to be a role model. It is very sweet that people want me to accept this role. But I feel that I can't live up to that" ( not exact quote, but similar) Plus, come on.....who cares if Britney goes to a club and gets drunk. How many of us do that all the time? The media needs to get off her back.

Christina was awesome in the opening, but lacked a little in her solo performance. I'm glad I'm not the only one too, that feels Beyonce is a little too much like JLO.

smiley21 08-31-2003 12:20 PM

anyone else who went to church today have a pastor that worked the infamous 'kiss' into the sermon today?
it was a little weird. the sermon was about the falling of morality in america.

PM_Mama00 08-31-2003 12:31 PM

Ahh... 1- glad my church doesn't discuss things like that (no offense) 2- a reason why I don't go to church at all.

smiley21 08-31-2003 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Ahh... 1- glad my church doesn't discuss things like that (no offense) 2- a reason why I don't go to church at all.

none taken. when he said it, i was thinking, 'man the last thing i need is my mom asking me if i saw it'

AOIIalum 08-31-2003 03:16 PM

Re: My VMA Comments
 
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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
  • The way they presented the Lifetime Achievement Award to Duran Duran sucked. Okay, I know they were going for the element of surprise, but then it should have been a complete ploy and not presented the Dance award at all. Duran Duran is awesome...how are you going to give them a LAA, let them get over the shock and speak for about 30 seconds, and then play second fiddle to Justin receiving his award?!? TACKY!

Thank you! That was horrific of MTV. Say what you will about D2, but they really were the first big video band (and yes, they do actually play their own musical instruments!) Duran Duran was a crucial part of the development and success of the channel. Remember, MTV used to be all about music videos when they started, and Duran Duran was all that and a box of cookies for MTV. Good heavens, and all they got was a "surprise, here's your award, now let's give little Justin another award" for their achievements? It's a crime, I tell ya! It's a crying shame that they weren't properly presented their well-deserved Lifetime Achievement Award with the pomp and circumstance that normally goes along with such awards. It's ridiculous that the audio didn't work and that they didn't fix it for re-broadcast either. I felt so bad for them, as well as for Kelly O. Say what you will about her, but at least she tried to pull off the surprise the best she could, when no one else in the place knew what the heck was going on. While I'm on a rant, it's even worse than Avril was up there, clueless little wannabe poseur girl that she portrays...nah, I'm not opinionated, am I?

Come on MTV, next time, do a better job. While you're at it, make it up to the band, because you wouldn't have ever been MTV.

Christin
(and while I'm on a roll--Hey MTV, next time give Roger more face time, would ya?!)

LeslieAGD 08-31-2003 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by AOIIalum
While I'm on a rant, it's even worse than Avril was up there
No kidding...she served no purpose. She just stood there.

PM_Mama00 08-31-2003 04:34 PM

Re: Re: My VMA Comments
 
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Originally posted by AOIIalum


Christin
(and while I'm on a roll--Hey MTV, next time give Roger more face time, would ya?!)

I agree with everything you said. I'm sure the band for one felt really awkward there with the new-age "alternative punk" bands, rappers, and teeny-bopper pop musicians (ok yeah I like them). As great as a band that Duran Duran is, they should have had WAY more prestige up there if they were gettin the Lifetime Achievement. They had their time up there of what, 2 seconds? Avril prolly doesn't even KNOW who they are! And then Justin once more.

MTV you fucked up big time.

BTW... who is Roger?

AOIIalum 08-31-2003 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
BTW... who is Roger?
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...ds_xnyr109.jpg

Roger Taylor is the original drummer for Duran Duran. He's 2nd from the left here, with the always yummy JT on the far left!

Christin

sugar and spice 09-02-2003 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
You hit the nail on the head! You are absolutely correct!
It's not that it's okay for one to be provacative/sexual and not the other, it's just that Christina never pretended to be a goody-goody. Britney came out talking about how she was this sweet/innocent virgin girl-next-door and how she wanted to be a role model. Now she sees she can get more attention acting like a hoe...and that's how it comes off: as an act, as if she's forcing this sexy image. :rolleyes: Yes, Britney is a good performer, but she is no where near the same league as Christina in talent. Putting them together on stage made it blaringly obvious.

Not to be obnoxious, but Christina was working the girl-next-door image back in her "Genie in a Bottle" days, and Britney has stated in many, many interviews that she does not want to be a role model. Plus I am so annoyed with everyone getting on Brit's back about the virginity thing. She said at one point that she wanted to remain a virgin until marriage, but later she changed her mind. Plenty of us have changed our minds at some points too, right? But the press kept harping on it. She never pretended to be a virgin after she had changed her mind -- she told the press that she didn't think her "sex life" or possible lackthereof was any of their business, which is true. I think Britney made a smarter decision than, say, Jessica Simpson -- when she decided she wanted to have sex, she went ahead and did it and kept her mouth shut about it, rather than rushing to get married and so that she could do it with her parents' and the church's blessing and then acting like trash on national television.

That said, I thought the kiss was pretty gross. I mean, come on -- Madonna's old enough to be her mom. That's not hot!

33girl 09-02-2003 10:48 AM

I always thought Roger Taylor was the hottest in D2 (that's what we called them back in the day, LOL) and he is STILL the hottest, although the older John Taylor gets the more handsome he gets. Simon, on the other hand, looks either bloated or like he got all the bloat sucked out too quickly.

Re Christina/Britney...Christina has the talent. Britney does not. Period. And the songs they've been picking lately only points it out more. It's a total Tiffany/Debbie Gibson repeat...

Was I the only one bugged by the way the thing LOOKED? It was on film not on tape, and it was distracting to me.

sugar and spice 09-02-2003 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl

Was I the only one bugged by the way the thing LOOKED? It was on film not on tape, and it was distracting to me.

They did that with last year's VMAs too, and I hated it. It just doesn't look "real" that way -- it looks like it's SUPPOSED to be fake.

DeltaSigStan 09-02-2003 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
They did that with last year's VMAs too, and I hated it. It just doesn't look "real" that way -- it looks like it's SUPPOSED to be fake.
Well, if you kinda think about.....it IS all fake.

LSUquadkid 09-02-2003 12:16 PM

I thought the opening act was soo good. Haven't seen Madonna at the VMA's in a long time. This year was soo much better than last year. I thought J. Lo was suppose to be in the opening act, except they put Christina in.. what's up with that?

smiley21 09-02-2003 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by LSUquadkid
I thought the opening act was soo good. Haven't seen Madonna at the VMA's in a long time. This year was soo much better than last year. I thought J. Lo was suppose to be in the opening act, except they put Christina in.. what's up with that?

j. lo is shooting a movie, so she couldnt make it

DeltAlum 09-02-2003 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Was I the only one bugged by the way the thing LOOKED? It was on film not on tape, and it was distracting to me.
Wait, I'm confused.

I thought the thing was live (at least in it's first telecast). It can't be "live" on film -- and would take weeks to shoot, process and edit.

The new generation of TV cameras can be made to mimick a film look -- is that what happened?

Or, are you just talking about a segment that was filmed?

Damn. Am I going to have to watch this thing?

GeoffZ 09-02-2003 01:03 PM

I really think that J.Lo being in the opening was just a rumor. When I heard she was doing it, I thought, why would Madonna share a stage with her? She can't like the chick. And she would just try to upstage Madonna anyways. Christina was a MUCH better choice and she can actually sing. Yeah, Britney's not the best singer, but she's a great performer.

Delt Alum, the show was live. They just shot it in a way that made it look filmed and really glossy.

33girl 09-02-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by GeoffZ
Delt Alum, the show was live. They just shot it in a way that made it look filmed and really glossy.
yeah. that's what I meant. kind of like if you've ever seen a movie that was made to look like a videotape, in reverse.

UKDaisy 09-02-2003 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Re Christina/Britney...Christina has the talent. Britney does not. Period. And the songs they've been picking lately only points it out more. It's a total Tiffany/Debbie Gibson repeat...



Not trying to start a fight, but you don't think Britney has any talent? Britney has mega talent!! Ok, so I can see why she's not everyone's favorite singer- but come on the girl can dance and perform like no other. I understand people not liking her, but give me a break.

33girl 09-02-2003 05:50 PM

Yeah, Britney can dance. But when you get a little older and can't shake it like you used to, you need a voice to back it up.

DZHBrown 09-02-2003 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by UKDaisy
Not trying to start a fight, but you don't think Britney has any talent? Britney has mega talent!! Ok, so I can see why she's not everyone's favorite singer- but come on the girl can dance and perform like no other. I understand people not liking her, but give me a break.
Maybe no MUSICAL talent, would be the way to put that. She can dance better than other people (myself included), but I've seen much better dancers.



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Damn. Am I going to have to watch this thing
No, DeltAlum! Don't get sucked in!! lol

LeslieAGD 09-02-2003 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by UKDaisy
Not trying to start a fight, but you don't think Britney has any talent? Britney has mega talent!! Ok, so I can see why she's not everyone's favorite singer- but come on the girl can dance and perform like no other.
"Like no other"?!? :rolleyes: Give me a break. DZHBrown was right, she has no musical talent. Sure, many of her hits are good, but almost anyone can go in studio and make a decent sounding song after it's been edited beyond belief. The proof is in the performance. Britney is know to lip-sync because her voice can't carry her. Sure she can move and put on a nice show but, if that's all she's good for, then she should have become dancer and not a singer.

UKDaisy 09-02-2003 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
"Like no other"?!? :rolleyes: Give me a break. DZHBrown was right, she has no musical talent. Sure, many of her hits are good, but almost anyone can go in studio and make a decent sounding song after it's been edited beyond belief. The proof is in the performance. Britney is know to lip-sync because her voice can't carry her. Sure she can move and put on a nice show but, if that's all she's good for, then she should have become dancer and not a singer.
Like no other is a saying. You know, like "She cooks like no other". Does this mean she's the best cook ever? No, but you're still going to say she cooks like no other.

And you're right the proof is in the performance, which Brit for the most part kicks butt. I saw her "dream within a dream" tour, and she did sing live for most of it. She was awesome!

She also doesn't claim to be a singer. She claims to be an entertainer, which includes singing and dancing.:)

DeltAlum 09-02-2003 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by ariesrising
My sister told me it was actually filmed digitally, which is why it was so pixellated at times. It was SO FREAKIN' ANNOYING!

Film is for big movie screens. Video is for TV. Digital is for still cameras lol.

Aries...

Still confused. Actually, state-of-the-art television is "digital." Likewise, High Definition Television (HDTV) is a digital format. Most of our home TV receivers are still analog. So, even if the program is shot by digital cameras and recorded on digital video tape recorders, it is still converted and transmitted in analog. Unless you're watching it in HDTV.

Confused? You and the rest of the country.

Non broadcast industry people tend to use the term "filmed" universally when something (moving picture and sound) is recorded.

To be really filmed, the show has to be shot on a medium which is chemically processed, and then either physically "cut" during the edit, or "transferred" to video tape and edited electronically. That can't be done live.

Parts of the last, and most of the next StarWars movie were/will be shot on High Definition video tape, and then either transferred to film or shown on digital video tape in movie houses.

What makes it even harder to understand is that TV cameras can now be "shaded" to have a "film look," and can even shoot in 24 frames per second (which is the traditional film standard) or 30 frames (which is the traditional TV standard).

My suspicion is that the performance was digitally altered during the actual production -- which can be done either live (as in this case) or in post production.

Anyway, that's why I'm confused.

sugar and spice 09-02-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
Britney is know to lip-sync because her voice can't carry her.
Britney is known to lip sync because she incorporates so much dancing into her shows that it would be difficult to maintain the proper breath support to sing at the same time. Many show choirs (high school choirs that sing and dance at the same time) do the same thing, but that doesn't mean that they can't sing. It just means that they want to put on the best show possible for the audience.

I'm not trying to say that Britney's got an amazing voice, because we all know she doesn't. I'm just saying that she's never claimed to be a great singer -- and if that's what you're expecting, that's like going to a Backstreet Boys' concert and complaining afterwards because they didn't sing any opera.

AOIIalum 09-02-2003 10:00 PM

I'm scaring myself here, but when Britney was younger she had a decent singing voice. I think TPTB have ruined her vocally, with all of the breathy and "sexy" singing. Ugh.

Christin

<hijack>for those of you who may have watched Brit and Co. on the 90s incarnation of The Mickey Mouse Club, whatever happened to Jennifer McGill? Now, that girl could seriously sing!</hijack>


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