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CrimsonTide4 07-23-2003 12:50 PM

Re: Re: Ok...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Please don't flame me, but I think this may have been a bit insensitive to the White lady. Obviously, she may not know about the role of AA women since she is not one, so she was not able to answer the question from that perspective. But, I am guessing that she did try to answer the question as best she could.

Now, if the tables were turned and an AA female was at a KKG or DDD rush and they asked about the role of White women, then we all know that the isht would hit the fan and just about every AA student on campus would call for the chapters' charter to be revoked because of racism.

Yes, NPHC greeks are 98% AA, but we do have White members. As a matter of fact a White undergrad soror of mine won a SW Regional scholarship.

I think the fact that a White woman showed interest in a NPHC org and wanted to participate in the activites in a room full of AA women took a lot of guts. I don't really like the term reverse discrimination, but I think this situation is an example of that. JMO

If she has interest in joining a member of a BGLO then she should be AWARE of issues that African American women face. The issues that BLACK women face are at the heart of the programs that DELTA executes.

LADY_1908 07-23-2003 01:55 PM

Re: Re: Ok...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Please don't flame me, but I think this may have been a bit insensitive to the White lady. Obviously, she may not know about the role of AA women since she is not one, so she was not able to answer the question from that perspective. But, I am guessing that she did try to answer the question as best she could.

I understand where you are coming from BUT MY problem with this situation was the fact that the woman felt the need to say..."I don't know about the role of African American women...."
Didn't she know/understand Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated? The remark was totally insensitive (and quite ignorant considering the audience)

sigmadiva 07-23-2003 02:29 PM

Re: Re: Re: Ok...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
If she has interest in joining a member of a BGLO then she should be AWARE of issues that African American women face. The issues that BLACK women face are at the heart of the programs that DELTA executes.
Yes, good point. But, to further the 'flame', the White lady may not be aware of the issues of AA women because she did not grow up with that experience so she can not address the question. For example, I do have Choctaw Indian in my bloodline but I was not raised as an American Indian. So, while I can be sympathetic to what is happening to American Indians I can not 'feel' their issues because I was not raised that way.

I am not suggesting that because a non-Black is interested in our (NPHC) orgs we need to totally adjust our respective programs, but we may need to be more aware that they have an interest; and their background will be different from many of ours.

Maybe, for whatever reason, the White lady wants to become more aware and involved with the issues of AA women and Delta piqued her interest. Or maybe she just saw women who are out there trying to help other women. I've never really seen the type of women-support efforts among NPC orgs as there are among NPHC sororities.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 07-23-2003 03:56 PM

Well.....
 
I posted the original thread about the white(I think she was half hispanic) interest. I didn't like the way she came off with her answer. It felt like she was pissed at the question. It was well known she was an interest on the yard. She was pissed that she didn't make it, she was hatin on my line trying to name drop and by being nosey ( she was my LS's roommate) and she transfered to A&T (a HBCU) after that semester...I didn't hear her say it myself but it was rumored that she said that she'd go to a Black school because they take all qualified applicants....NOT!! This may offend some people but I think you should KNOW YOUR ROLE and deal with it!!!!!!

mccoyred 07-23-2003 05:23 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ok...
 
Sorry, but if she had done research, she would see that:

"We are an organization of over 200,000 college-educated women who are committed to public service, with a focus on sustaining the growth and development of the African American community. "

www.deltasigmatheta.com
Official National Website

To echo my soror, how are you (in general) going to get involved in an organization when you know nothing about its focus? Why would you (in general) want to join a SISTERHOOD and know nothing about its members? This applies in general but moreso in this case since the distinction is clearly evident (white woman: black women).

Anywho, there was an older woman (late 40's, early 50's) that showed up to my alumnae chapter's rush with a PINK SWEATSUIT and GREEN HAT, chillin' !



Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Yes, good point. But, to further the 'flame', the White lady may not be aware of the issues of AA women because she did not grow up with that experience so she can not address the question. For example, I do have Choctaw Indian in my bloodline but I was not raised as an American Indian. So, while I can be sympathetic to what is happening to American Indians I can not 'feel' their issues because I was not raised that way.

I am not suggesting that because a non-Black is interested in our (NPHC) orgs we need to totally adjust our respective programs, but we may need to be more aware that they have an interest; and their background will be different from many of ours.

Maybe, for whatever reason, the White lady wants to become more aware and involved with the issues of AA women and Delta piqued her interest. Or maybe she just saw women who are out there trying to help other women. I've never really seen the type of women-support efforts among NPC orgs as there are among NPHC sororities.


blackerican 07-23-2003 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by lostnfound117
please tell me you are lying??!! what did the deltas say??
Lostnfound117...I wish it was a lie. She was asked to leave (she couldn't understand why they had a problem with the shirt).

Kimmie1913 07-23-2003 05:42 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ok...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Yes, good point. But, to further the 'flame', the White lady may not be aware of the issues of AA women because she did not grow up with that experience so she can not address the question. For example, I do have Choctaw Indian in my bloodline but I was not raised as an American Indian. So, while I can be sympathetic to what is happening to American Indians I can not 'feel' their issues because I was not raised that way.

I am not suggesting that because a non-Black is interested in our (NPHC) orgs we need to totally adjust our respective programs, but we may need to be more aware that they have an interest; and their background will be different from many of ours.

Maybe, for whatever reason, the White lady wants to become more aware and involved with the issues of AA women and Delta piqued her interest. Or maybe she just saw women who are out there trying to help other women. I've never really seen the type of women-support efforts among NPC orgs as there are among NPHC sororities.

Well, IMO, if you are interested in the organization, regardless of your background, I expect you to have done some research about the organization, her mission and focus. Second, although I may not understand the issues confronting other ethnic groups it does not mean I am unaware of some of them. Being White does not mean you cannot know issues confronting AA women, it may mean you do not understand them firsthand but it does not require you to be ignorant of them either. Those NPC women who frequent the NPHC boards on GC would have likely done a fine job of answering that question. because they have chosen to expose themselves to something new.

I cannot speak for other NPHC sororities, but Delta's focus is primarily uplifting and improving the AA community. Even my non-Black sorors know and understand this. The statement as it was reported here was definitely delivered in a way that would get a reaction. If she had just begun with "an issue facing women is..." I am sure the reaction would not have been as strong.

I guess I am of the opinion that people who have no understanding or no idea about the issues faced by others do not know because they choose not to learn, not because the information is not available. That is an explanation, not an excuse. It frustrates me when it is depicted as Black folks' job to educate others who choose not to know.

sigmadiva 07-23-2003 06:05 PM

Re: Well.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9
I posted the original thread about the white(I think she was half hispanic) interest. I didn't like the way she came off with her answer. It felt like she was pissed at the question. It was well known she was an interest on the yard. She was pissed that she didn't make it, she was hatin on my line trying to name drop and by being nosey ( she was my LS's roommate) and she transfered to A&T (a HBCU) after that semester...I didn't hear her say it myself but it was rumored that she said that she'd go to a Black school because they take all qualified applicants....NOT!! This may offend some people but I think you should KNOW YOUR ROLE and deal with it!!!!!!
If that was her attitude she will never get in, in any org!!! White, Black, Hispanic, Asian.

brickhouse492 07-23-2003 06:48 PM

My 4 friends and I went to a rush. At the time, my gpa was poor. As we entered, we were given applications. I didn't even bother to fill it out. As a matter of a fact, I snuck out and went home. The next time I saw my friends, they were coming out on the yard in red and white. It doesn't get any more embarrassing than that! I learned ya'll. 9 years later & my GPA is 3.8 cum.

soulfulremix 07-23-2003 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brickhouse492
The next time I saw my friends, they were coming out on the yard in red and white. It doesn't get any more embarrassing than that! I learned ya'll. 9 years later & my GPA is 3.8 cum.
Its great to know that your determination did not stop you from reaching and exceeding your academic potential! Congrats!! :)

MeezDiscreet 07-25-2003 12:02 PM

the letter "k" must be hard...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BabyBlue91
I was at an information session just after crossing. As an icebreaker, we asked all of the ladies to introduce themselves using their first name and an adjective starting with the same letter (e.g., elegant Elissa). One girl responded with "kinky K----." (I kid you not!) And no, she was not selected.

we played that game at an event during the week of my rush and this chick said "killa k---." tripped me out. and she ended up standing behind me and another girl who ended up being my #9 on our line. after we crossed, she told me that standing between the two of us must have been a sign for her. wth??

the first rush i went to, i didn't submit and i knew i wasn't going to so i wasn't as nervous as those who did submit. i was actually containing laughter when i would hear them introducing themselves. people who i know on a regular day would say "what the f___ is up m__f__? what the d___ deal? this your girl ___. HOLLA AT YO' GURL!!" stand up and say "good evening to everyone in attendance. it is my pleasure to introduce myself as ____ and i am very happy to be here."

at that rush, this girl came in with an apple green suit so eyebrows were already raised. one of the chapter sorors gave some history about the chapter and some of the community service events the chapter does. minutes later, ms. green suit stands and asks "i want to know what kind of service YOU guys do as a chapter." the soror at the podium said "hmm. someone wasn't listening."

the day of my rush, the sorors also hosted a park jam where all of the greeks stepped. it was at 12 NOON. well, that night at rush, this girl came, dressed in jeans and a hillfiger sweater, and was standing in front of me. she asks the girl in front of her "are you going to the park jam after this?" of course the girl was like "huh?" she said "yeah, it starts at midnight." i had to interject and let her know. and i was wondering to myself, who would have a step show in the park at midnight??

CrimsonTide4 07-25-2003 12:22 PM

Re: the letter "k" must be hard...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MeezDiscreet
the day of my rush, the sorors also hosted a park jam where all of the greeks stepped. it was at 12 NOON. well, that night at rush, this girl came, dressed in jeans and a hillfiger sweater, and was standing in front of me. she asks the girl in front of her "are you going to the park jam after this?" of course the girl was like "huh?" she said "yeah, it starts at midnight." i had to interject and let her know. and i was wondering to myself, who would have a step show in the park at midnight??
**CT4 runs in**

FREAKS COME OUT AT NIGHT!!:o :o :p :p

**CT4 runs right back out CTFU**

RedefinedDiva 07-25-2003 02:25 PM

Re: the letter "k" must be hard...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MeezDiscreet
the day of my rush, the sorors also hosted a park jam where all of the greeks stepped. it was at 12 NOON. well, that night at rush, this girl came, dressed in jeans and a hillfiger sweater, and was standing in front of me. she asks the girl in front of her "are you going to the park jam after this?" of course the girl was like "huh?" she said "yeah, it starts at midnight." i had to interject and let her know. and i was wondering to myself, who would have a step show in the park at midnight??
She came to the rush dressed for the park jam? :confused: :eek: We can see which one was more important for her.... A park jam at midnight? That has got to be one of the best stroies so far! People are a trip!

miss priss 07-25-2003 08:22 PM

I knew this chick who asked what was the Twenty Pearls and what did it mean... The WHOLE room took a big gasp and all u could hear was no she didn't! ***still laughing about this one***

AKA2D '91 07-25-2003 08:34 PM

This one chick came into a rush. During the rush, her phone goes off. :eek: Instead of this chick turning it off, she decides to answer it AT her seat. :eek: (YOU KNOW SHE GOT THA LOOK) INSTEAD of her getting off the phone, she leaves while on the phone. :eeka: :eeka:

Needless to say, ONCE YOU LEAVE... THERE IS NO RE-ENTRY. :o


FFR (For Future References): Make sure your phone is off, on vibrate or summin. ;) Tell your peeps don't contact you for one, two, three hours. :D

chrini 07-25-2003 08:51 PM

A young lady attended XYZ's interest meeting. The young lady approached two members of XYZ and introduced herself. Instead of saying hello the two members were like "What is that? Is that dandruff in your head? XYZs do not have dandruff in their heads!" They said it loud enough for others to hear. Needless to say the young lady was humiliated.

ZTAMiami 07-25-2003 10:28 PM

Obviously NPHC and NPC have completely different rush practices but as an NPC member I can relate to a lot of the stuff on here! Take a look at "weird rush stories" http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=11313
Even if you feel like you can't relate, at least you'll get a good laugh!:D

Krisco 07-26-2003 11:40 AM

For those(GDI's) who have a hard time with the letter "K"

Here is a suggestion(what I used, and is TOTALLY tue):
Kind

DO NOT SAY kinky, killer, etc. You'll look like an ass.

Spr99_Diva 07-28-2003 08:29 PM

My name begins with the letter K and you've got to give us K's some slack. I am not in any way endorsing Kinky, Killa, etc... but if you really think about it, there are not many adjectives that begin with K.

When they played this game at my rush, out of about 300 women, there was one other girl with a K name... She used Kind before me so I just used kindhearted.

Help us out... Any other good K words?

ClassyLady 07-28-2003 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Spr99_Diva

Help us out... Any other good K words?

Kooky?? Kitschy?? I don't think too many people would know what kitschy meant. Someone correct my spelling if it's wrong.

CrimsonTide4 07-28-2003 08:58 PM

Knowledgeable

LADY_1908 07-28-2003 09:42 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmm...
 
Krazy:D ...

ModelSF 07-28-2003 10:20 PM

There was a girl in one of my freshman orientation groups who used Kaleidoscopic (don't even know if that's a word) because she was multi-faceted like a kaleidoscope....I thought it was creative...

NOWorNEVER 07-29-2003 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZTAMiami
Obviously NPHC and NPC have completely different rush practices but as an NPC member I can relate to a lot of the stuff on here! Take a look at "weird rush stories" http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=11313
Even if you feel like you can't relate, at least you'll get a good laugh!:D

Oh my gosh! These stories are HILARIOUS. I'm sitting here cracking up! :D
LOL at the crossdresser, the girl who only talked about hotdogs, the eye socket girl, the girl who sniffed her armpits, the pantyliner girl, etc. Tooooo funny!

BabyBlue91 07-30-2003 10:57 AM

Helping out the K's
 
Keen
King (just for the guys, sorry)
Knockout (meaning impressive)

I would proceed with caution on "kosher."

Monique 07-30-2003 12:19 PM

awww man
 
some of these stories make u go wooooooooooooooow! Did that really happen.
For all of yall who has ever been to a rush, you know how it is. From the tension, to the people, to your heart beating super fast. You want everything to be perfect so when some ask a stupid question or make some smart remark, you just want to die for them.
At my rush, it was packed beyond imaganition. It was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. After the Delta info was giving out some gyrl got up and asked "Yes, i want to know who is going to be our DP. Is she go haze us like they did the line before "ours". How much money does it cost, and does that include our probate outfit. Not to mention the girl had on a pink suit with green shoes,green purse and green scarf. Then she was like do yall have beef with the AKA'S cause i just wanna know. What this Delta stuff about."

omg i could have died right there on the spot. If yall could have seen the looks she was gettingggggg Well i'm pretty sure u can picture.. Man i have sooooo many other FUNNY stories but alas, i can't write them here:D ;)

MeezDiscreet 07-31-2003 11:26 AM

Re: awww man
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Monique
some of these stories make u go wooooooooooooooow! Did that really happen.
For all of yall who has ever been to a rush, you know how it is. From the tension, to the people, to your heart beating super fast. You want everything to be perfect so when some ask a stupid question or make some smart remark, you just want to die for them.
At my rush, it was packed beyond imaganition. It was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. After the Delta info was giving out some gyrl got up and asked "Yes, i want to know who is going to be our DP. Is she go haze us like they did the line before "ours". How much money does it cost, and does that include our probate outfit. Not to mention the girl had on a pink suit with green shoes,green purse and green scarf. Then she was like do yall have beef with the AKA'S cause i just wanna know. What this Delta stuff about."

omg i could have died right there on the spot. If yall could have seen the looks she was gettingggggg Well i'm pretty sure u can picture.. Man i have sooooo many other FUNNY stories but alas, i can't write them here:D ;)

OH. MY. GOD.

FeeFee 07-31-2003 12:28 PM

Re: awww man
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Monique
some of these stories make u go wooooooooooooooow! Did that really happen.
For all of yall who has ever been to a rush, you know how it is. From the tension, to the people, to your heart beating super fast. You want everything to be perfect so when some ask a stupid question or make some smart remark, you just want to die for them.
At my rush, it was packed beyond imaganition. It was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. After the Delta info was giving out some gyrl got up and asked "Yes, i want to know who is going to be our DP. Is she go haze us like they did the line before "ours". How much money does it cost, and does that include our probate outfit. Not to mention the girl had on a pink suit with green shoes,green purse and green scarf. Then she was like do yall have beef with the AKA'S cause i just wanna know. What this Delta stuff about."

omg i could have died right there on the spot. If yall could have seen the looks she was gettingggggg Well i'm pretty sure u can picture.. Man i have sooooo many other FUNNY stories but alas, i can't write them here:D ;)

Well, DAYUM that's one brave (or not so smart) person!!!! :eek: :eek:

I noticed something while reading these rush stories. What's up with folks wearing pink/green outfits to a Delta rush and vice-versa??? Are these people trying to deliberately start drama or are they sooo clueless to protocol?? I don't get it at all. :confused: :eek:

Kimmie1913 07-31-2003 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spr99_Diva
My name begins with the letter K and you've got to give us K's some slack. I am not in any way endorsing Kinky, Killa, etc... but if you really think about it, there are not many adjectives that begin with K.

When they played this game at my rush, out of about 300 women, there was one other girl with a K name... She used Kind before me so I just used kindhearted.

Help us out... Any other good K words?

Sands, you could have been with me!

There was another K for me, too so we had "kind" and "kindhearted". I have also heard "kinetic" when there were three k's. It is a challenging letter for those games!

CrimsonTide4 03-15-2004 07:39 PM

ttt . . .any more embarrassing rush moments.

tld221 03-16-2004 12:09 AM

how about massive babbling to members, not having anything good to say and potentially making a fool of yourself to members? talk about a scary experience!

nothing big, but the at informational i went to recently, a girl (who was sitting next to me) was wearing a white shirt and red pants. everyone looked at her, it was like a record stopped. i discreetly told her she shouldnt have worn that, and she says "i didnt know...i just came from work, and this is what i wore today."

BS is what i say. if you are that interested, you would know the "taboos" (or at least try). and then the girl was sitting next to me, so the members thought she came with me! the interested girl was so embarassed, she didnt get up not once the whole time and sat with her jacket over her lap.

another girl wore a pearls, claiming innocence, that she wore the "on a regular basis." the next time i saw her that night, the pearls were not on her neck anymore.

msn4med1975 03-16-2004 04:00 AM

I'm not sure how embarassing this was for the women involved but we had the standard strange questions at our rush and just some what was ya thinking moments.

1) My chapter covers outlying cities in about a sixty mile radius and most folks didn't know that till the rush but we had women that traveled from another city with an ACTIVE chapter to attempt to submit there.

2) At least two people wanted to know, apparently weren't listening to each other, how soon they needed to have their money together to give to the chapter. They got the standard, 24 hours after we call you response.

3) This isn't to knock anyone as my chapter hadn't had rush since 1999 but if you look about five minutes away from delivering your child you may want to stay home.

Jill1228 03-16-2004 04:48 AM

LMAO at some of these stories. And why come do some folx wear pink and green to a DST event or crimson and cream to an AKA (or any other GLO) event?


It makes you wanna ask "what the hayle are they thinking?"

LatinaAlumna 03-16-2004 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tld221
how about massive babbling to members, not having anything good to say and potentially making a fool of yourself to members? talk about a scary experience!

nothing big, but the at informational i went to recently, a girl (who was sitting next to me) was wearing a white shirt and red pants. everyone looked at her, it was like a record stopped. i discreetly told her she shouldnt have worn that, and she says "i didnt know...i just came from work, and this is what i wore today."

Did she work at Target? :D

SummerChild 03-16-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by loviest95
At an Interest Tea this one girl stood up and asked--What did yall have to do?--I mean did ya'll have to do crazy stuff? when ya'll pledged..I heard ....

Then this woman walked in she was at least 45..in a pink and green sweat suit (to Formal Rush).. hair all over her head etc,
she proceeded to be loud and crazy the entire time

Another year a girl came with pink nail polish with ivy leaves airbrushed across then--and then proceeded to tell us why she did not like the AKA's at one of our sister campuses in the same city!!!

One lady wanted to sell Mary Kay and told us about her intentions to be more active in the grad chapter (she was also in her 40's)

and my all time favorite.... AKA? Also Known As What?

Soror, you have to be kidding me!
Sweat suits? Mary Kay sales? Also Known As?

I think that I'm most upset at the Mary Kay lady. I would hope that at least a 40 year old would know better than that!

Shaking my head,
SC

SummerChild 03-16-2004 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by treblk
I went to a majority white school and our black greek system was not as strong as an HBCU and there were young ladies who didn't have a clue and were genuinely interested. I remember one young lady came to our rush in red sweats because she was on the track team and had just come from practice. when it was her turn to introduce herself, she apologized and explained her attire. But there are some young ladies (shaking my head:rolleyes: ) who just don't get it.
But see this is what I don't understand. If a young woman doesn't know about attire, etc., I would hope that her parents would have taught her to take the time to ask about matters that you are unclear about - especially if the matter is important to you. I don't understand not asking if one is unsure - even if one has to ask her girlfriends, cousins, whomever. To me, if it is important enough to her, she will at least figure out if a Rush requires more "interview" attire or more "come as you are" attire.

SC

ladygreek 03-16-2004 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by msn4med1975
I'm not sure how embarassing this was for the women involved but we had the standard strange questions at our rush and just some what was ya thinking moments.

3) This isn't to knock anyone as my chapter hadn't had rush since 1999 but if you look about five minutes away from delivering your child you may want to stay home.

We have had a few like that.

One one line, one delivered the week before initiation, did her little one day stay in the hospital and kept going. She is still very active and is the treasurer of our chapter. On the other hand, her line sister delivered the day of initiation, we held a special one for her after she came home and we haven't seen her since.

On our last line we had a prospect who delivered the week after initiation and she now our social action chair.

So I say that to say, while they all looked ready to deliver at the Rush, they made it through and if we had of held it against them we would have missed out on at least two good workers.

SummerChild 03-16-2004 09:02 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ok...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Yes, good point. But, to further the 'flame', the White lady may not be aware of the issues of AA women because she did not grow up with that experience so she can not address the question. For example, I do have Choctaw Indian in my bloodline but I was not raised as an American Indian. So, while I can be sympathetic to what is happening to American Indians I can not 'feel' their issues because I was not raised that way.

I am not suggesting that because a non-Black is interested in our (NPHC) orgs we need to totally adjust our respective programs, but we may need to be more aware that they have an interest; and their background will be different from many of ours.

Maybe, for whatever reason, the White lady wants to become more aware and involved with the issues of AA women and Delta piqued her interest. Or maybe she just saw women who are out there trying to help other women. I've never really seen the type of women-support efforts among NPC orgs as there are among NPHC sororities.

Sigmadiva,
I understand what you are saying but I just don't agree. She should have known that she was coming to a Rush for a BGLO. If a woman comes to a Rush for a BGLO, I think that she should know something about the organization and the plight of African-American women over time, which has shaped the organization. Our organizations are not solely shaped by the women's movement *in general*. Our experiences include the *unique* experiences and shaping from African-American women.

I don't buy the argument that she may have been there to learn and therefore we need to cut her some slack. As African-Americans, we always have to compete *on level* with all other races for anything that we want - we have to be on point (or BETTER in most cases). Likewise, IMO she should have to be on point when it comes to participating in BGLO affairs.

SC

CrimsonTide4 03-16-2004 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SummerChild
Soror, you have to be kidding me!
Sweat suits? Mary Kay sales? Also Known As?

I think that I'm most upset at the Mary Kay lady. I would hope that at least a 40 year old would know better than that!

Shaking my head,
SC

Those Mary Kay women are PUSHY as hayle!!!! Unless you have petroleum jelly CHEAPER than Wal Mart, BUZZ OFF!!!

SummerChild 03-16-2004 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Those Mary Kay women are PUSHY as hayle!!!! Unless you have petroleum jelly CHEAPER than Wal Mart, BUZZ OFF!!!
For real!
CT4, you are hilarious!! :D

SC


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