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Wonderful1908 07-23-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kiml122
Now this was this was just reported this morning...see that fool did have sex with that chick 'bareback'....dumbazz!!

"Kobe's 19 year old accuser broke her silence today and gave
the press additional explicit details of her encounter with NBA star
Kobe Bryant.

She said that Bryant forced her to perform oral sex on him and
he later did the same to her. The victim also said that the sex was
unprotected. Semen samples that match those of Bryant were sent to the
Colorado Bureau of Investigations and later determined to be those of Mr.
Bryant.

In other events, one of her closest friends of the accuser reportedly
told "Celebrity Justice" that they were appalled to see Bryant's
tearful news conference. The friend relayed that the alleged victim does
not want any money from Bryant, but rather she wants him to go to jail."

He forced her to let him perform oral sex on her?:confused:

RedefinedDiva 07-23-2003 02:52 PM

He not only cheated, but he had unprotected sex. Vanessa had better get tested for some random diseases because her husband is careless.... :rolleyes:

kiml122 07-24-2003 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
He not only cheated, but he had unprotected sex. Vanessa had better get tested for some random diseases because her husband is careless.... :rolleyes:
Very Careless:mad: :mad: :mad:

nachural 07-24-2003 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wonderful1908
He forced her to let him perform oral sex on her?:confused:

I second that. That doesn't make any sense at all. Liar!!!! And who the in the world would have to be forced to receive oral sex??? (JOKE!!!)

But how do you force someone to recieve it. How is that physically possible. It isnt like rape where they can hold you down with their body weight. liar liar. Send him to jail for what? I dont think she said no.....really

nachural

Im_just_me 07-24-2003 09:05 PM

This is a new "rumor" in the Kobe case...
 
Word has it that Kobe, his wife, and the 19 yr old girl were having a threesome. Kobe was showing the girl more attention that he was showing his wife and Vanessa got mad and beat up the 19 year old. Thats why the girl is sueing Kobe.

Dancerella1908 07-25-2003 01:37 AM

from espn.com
 
Thursday, July 24

Kobe gives wife ring shortly after admitting adultery

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ESPN.com news services


Just days after admitting to millions of people that he cheated on his wife, Kobe Bryant has reportedly spent millions on a gift for her.

The Lakers star called what he did adultery. You can call what he bought his wife, Vanessa, whatever you want: damage control or sincere apology attempt.

According to the New York Post, People Magazine will be on the newsstands Friday with a report that Kobe has purchased a $4 million eight-carat, purple diamond ring for his wife.

"They looked very happy together," Raffi, the man who made the ring, told People after the couple picked it up Monday at an exclusive jewelry boutique in Santa Monica, Calif. Raffi also made the couple's wedding rings two years ago, according to People. The new bauble was specially commissioned two weeks ago.

Bryant was charged Friday with a single count of felony sexual assault against a 19-year-old woman at an exclusive spa where he was staying when he came to Colorado for knee surgery. If convicted, he faces four years to life in prison or 20 years to life on probation, and a fine of up to $750,000.

At Friday's news conference, Kobe defended himself against the assault charge, but admitted to committing adultery with the accuser. Vanessa Bryant was at her husband's side during the news conference and released a statement.

"He is a loving and kind husband and father," she said in the statement. "I believe in his innocence. Because I know him to be innocent, I will stand by him and we will face this together."

DaddyzLilGrl 07-25-2003 10:53 AM

Kobe's Purchase
 
Okay... in my office we have the "Question of the Day." I ask you this:

Do you think Vanessa Bryant should accept the ring as a step in the direction of healing their marriage? Is it just an very expensive pay-off? If your man (husband, SO, boyfriend) cheated on you, would you accept a gift?

I'll tell ya'll, I know that Vanessa is playing the Hillary Clinton, Efflie Baily (Marion's Ex)role:mad: :mad:, but I just see her taking that ring and all is forgiven. Part of me feels that she isn't a sistah and her response wouldn't be sista-ish. One thing about Efflie, she stuck by Marion's crack pipe azz, but when the hype was passed, she divorced his but and went back to college. Is the ring a pay-off or fresh start?

MeezDiscreet 07-25-2003 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Wonderful1908
He forced her to let him perform oral sex on her?:confused:

and i've never understood a man forcing a woman to perform it on him. i don't want to be graphic so i'll only say one word: teeth

AKA2D '91 07-25-2003 06:16 PM

Vanessa, according to these news channels (and their reports) is 21.

Gina1201 07-25-2003 08:36 PM

Thank YOU!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MeezDiscreet
and i've never understood a man forcing a woman to perform it on him. i don't want to be graphic so i'll only say one word: teeth
That's the same thing I was thinking. If anything instead of "Stop, Drop, and Roll" she should have been thinking "Stop, Bite, and Run"

1savvydiva 07-25-2003 11:58 PM

ROTFL!!!!!

UpPinkies 07-28-2003 05:05 PM

Here is my .08 cents about Kobe.

I really want to know WAS it really worth it.

You remember on the MTV interview when he told the world that his wife was his all, his everything and that was all he needed.

In a way I really feel sorry for him but he has no one to blame but himself. But I applaud Venessa (Please, don't hit a sista) because some marriages are going to go through the good, bad and ugly and she is supporting him. Now I hope she is supporting him because she loves him and that they need to stick this out for their child, not because Kobe can afford a four million dollar ring.

That's my .08 cents!!

kiml122 07-29-2003 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UpPinkies
Here is my .08 cents about Kobe.

I really want to know WAS it really worth it.

You remember on the MTV interview when he told the world that his wife was his all, his everything and that was all he needed.

In a way I really feel sorry for him but he has no one to blame but himself. But I applaud Venessa (Please, don't hit a sista) because some marriages are going to go through the good, bad and ugly and she is supporting him. Now I hope she is supporting him because she loves him and that they need to stick this out for their child, not because Kobe can afford a four million dollar ring.

That's my .08 cents!!


When I first heard that Vanessa was sticking by her man, my first thought was what else is she going to do. I didn't and still don't think for a minute that she would leave him. It was reported here that Kobe has been very distant since the birht of their daughter, and has been going out, where in the past he didn't. Also it was reported that since the birth of their child that he hasn't been attracted to Vanessa in a sexual way.

toocute 07-29-2003 10:14 AM

WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kiml122
Also it was reported that since the birth of their child that he hasn't been attracted to Vanessa in a sexual way.
How do folks know what's going on in their bedroom? Dang....

FeeFee 07-29-2003 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kiml122
When I first heard that Vanessa was sticking by her man, my first thought was what else is she going to do. I didn't and still don't think for a minute that she would leave him. It was reported here that Kobe has been very distant since the birht of their daughter, and has been going out, where in the past he didn't. Also it was reported that since the birth of their child that he hasn't been attracted to Vanessa in a sexual way.
So instead of spending more time with Vanessa and still finding her sexually attractive (she gave birth to your child you idiot), he goes out and have sex with another woman, bareback and all, with the possibility of conception taking place. How smart is that???? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

nachural 07-29-2003 11:45 AM

Frankly at 21 I dont see the point of sticking by your man. I mean after 10 + years and you have been happy and then your man slips up you can give him a break. But I think it is way to early in a marriage or any relationship for that matter to "stand by your man". She is only 21. I dont believe in working out relationships when you are that young and beautiful no matter who your man is. This not Hillary Clinton- they have only been married for what 2 years. Girl is young and fine enuff to find a man who she wont have her put up with this bull. I think her standing by Kobe is really ridiculous like she has spent her entire life with him and she cant let go. But if this stuff is happening already she will spend her entire life dealing with it- I dont think it's worth it

:o

kiml122 07-29-2003 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nachural
Frankly at 21 I dont see the point of sticking by your man. I mean after 10 + years and you have been happy and then your man slips up you can give him a break. But I think it is way to early in a marriage or any relationship for that matter to "stand by your man". She is only 21. I dont believe in working out relationships when you are that young and beautiful no matter who your man is. This not Hillary Clinton- they have only been married for what 2 years. Girl is young and fine enuff to find a man who she wont have her put up with this bull. I think her standing by Kobe is really ridiculous like she has spent her entire life with him and she cant let go. But if this stuff is happening already she will spend her entire life dealing with it- I dont think it's worth it

:o

Even though they have not been married that long, and NO she didn't sign a pre-nup, but I think that she will get more at this point by sticking with him that fighting ina divorce, so again I say what else was she going to do. She may love him, but I'm sorry I think the $$ is what she really sees.

kiml122 07-29-2003 11:58 AM

Re: WHAT???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by toocute
How do folks know what's going on in their bedroom? Dang....
Dang, you got me laughing because that is soooooo true.

AKA2D '91 07-29-2003 12:01 PM

ttt for those in the celebrity thread...

AKA2D '91 07-29-2003 10:08 PM

Monday, July 28

Kobe could still take part in 2004 Games

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Associated Press


COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- Vince Carter was named to the U.S. Olympic qualifying team Monday, replacing Kobe Bryant.

Bryant withdrew from the team last week because of shoulder and knee surgery. The Los Angeles Lakers' star still plans to play for the U.S. team at the 2004 Olympics if the Americans qualify.

Bryant was charged earlier this month with felony sexual assault. The 24-year-old Bryant is free on bail and is scheduled to appear in court Aug. 6.

Carter led the U.S. team in scoring at the 2000 Olympics, averaging 14.8 points per game and shooting 50.6 percent as the Americans won the gold medal.

"It is a wonderful honor to once again be representing USA Basketball," said Carter, who plays for Toronto.

Carter has been slowed by knee injuries since the Sydney Games and averaged only 20.6 points last season -- his lowest total since his rookie season -- in just 43 games.

Also on the U.S. team are Seattle's Ray Allen and Nick Collison, Sacramento's Mike Bibby, Elton Brand of the Los Angeles Clippers, Tim Duncan of San Antonio, Philadelphia's Allen Iverson, New Jersey's Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson, Karl Malone of the Lakers, Tracy McGrady of Orlando and Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal.

The team opens training camp in New York on Aug. 10.

Is this the beginning of possible MORE "pulls"? :confused:

DELTABRAT 07-30-2003 06:08 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FeeFee
[B]So instead of spending more time with Vanessa and still finding her sexually attractive (she gave birth to your child you idiot),

This "problem" is actually more common than a lot would think. It's called the mother/madonna whore complex and is psychological. It's an idealization of motherhood. After a woman gives birth to a child, the man actually is unable to place her in a sexual capacity but in the mother capacity. They are unable to have sex with the woman. It's some wack BS to me, but hey, it could hapen, I guess.

Okay. Not that Kobe has or had this and wasn't just looking for some a$$, but I figured I would shed light on this topic since it could be a possibility, although unlikely.

Just my $19.13.

FeeFee 07-30-2003 10:02 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DELTABRAT
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by FeeFee
So instead of spending more time with Vanessa and still finding her sexually attractive (she gave birth to your child you idiot),

This "problem" is actually more common than a lot would think. It's called the mother/madonna whore complex and is psychological. It's an idealization of motherhood. After a woman gives birth to a child, the man actually is unable to place her in a sexual capacity but in the mother capacity. They are unable to have sex with the woman. It's some wack BS to me, but hey, it could hapen, I guess.

Yeah, I know about the "madonna/whore" complex thingie and how common it is, but it just pisses me off, ya know??? You're right, it's some wack BS, and this is coming from someone who studied psychology and hoping to continue in the field.

CrimsonTide4 07-31-2003 07:01 AM

Compliments of AKA2D
 
you knew it was coming. . .

http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL114/...7/30654431.jpg

Gyrl7 07-31-2003 09:18 AM

Re: Compliments of AKA2D
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
you knew it was coming. . .

http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL114/...7/30654431.jpg


LMAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:D :D

RedefinedDiva 07-31-2003 09:21 AM

I was gonna post that yesterday, but GC was acting a fool!

Exquisite5 07-31-2003 10:18 AM

Vanessa is on the payroll!
 
As I read this posts I am dismayed that everyone is so surprised that Ms. Laine-Bryant is sticking buy her husband.

I know that many NBA/NFL wives fully expect their men to cheat. I know of one lady who at the time was the fiance and is now the wife of an NFL star who said, "I know he has women on the side, but I don't care. I'm the one he loves. I'm the one with the six carat rock. I'm the one with a phat condominium that's paid for (they weren't even married yet, nor did they live together). So I get all the perks and why do I care where he sleeps as long as he's protected."

I tell that story to say that these women know what they are signing up for when they sign their marriage papers. They expect to sacrifice the commitment of marriage for the money, celebrity, etc..

That's why I was not surprised at all at Vanessa's response. She got on Kobe's payroll long ago and has been bought off in full.

Hell yeah she'll take the ring he bought her, she'd have stayed without it. Ups to her for milking the situation and getting it. I guess she renegotiated her contract:D

Anyway, I don't believe he did it. I thought today's Boondocks was hillarious. Check it out. I can't figure out how to paste the pic in.

RedefinedDiva 07-31-2003 11:16 AM

I'm sorry, but no amount of money in the world will make me give up the sanctity of marriage. I know that these women sign on for a hard task. Like the woman that Exquisite5 spoke of, some of them don't care. They just want the money and fame. Some of these women don't think that it will happen to them or that they can change their man. Who knows? :rolleyes: I know that I don't care how well I'm being "taken care of" or whatever the case may be. I couldn't hold my head up and claim to truly be happy and in love know that my man is giving it to other women on the regular. :mad:

Exquisite5 07-31-2003 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
I couldn't hold my head up and claim to truly be happy and in love know that my man is giving it to other women on the regular. :mad:
I feel that.

You and I are two of a kind.

prayerfull 07-31-2003 02:22 PM

GIRL....GET YO MONEY!!!
 
I haven't really chimed in on this whole Kobe thing much, so I'll speak my peace now...

A celebrity/athlete/entertainer marriage is a Business arrangement. Sure, there may be some love involved, but it's all business. Big ups to Vanessa for being the Bizness woman that she is. Heck, I thought she was probably a little young and stupid. Quite frankly, she would have looked dumber to me if she had been on TV crying and walked out on her man. Instead, she is securing a financial future for herself and her daughter and I AIN"T MAD AT HER. That girl is beautiful. I used to think she was a little tacky looking. (The new hair color is very becoming on her). Kobe is an idiot at best for not being able to hold out for a couple of days on the road. This ain't the first time he's cheated on that girl, and probably won't be the last. Vanessa pu$$y-whipped his stupid tail into marrying her without at pre-nup and now she's got him ON LOCK! In the state of California, all she has to do is stay with him for 10 years and she is GUARANTEED BY LAW to take HALF! It's BIZNESS!

Blizzard08 07-31-2003 03:37 PM

Here's the latest...
 
Okay here's the latest in this drama. I'm just hoping he didn't really rape her, I am such a big Kobe fan... I agree that I'm not surprised that Vanessa is staying with him. When everything first came out it never crossed my mind she would leave or divorce him.

Kobe Bryant reportedly ignored accuser's demand to stop

JON SARCHE, Associated Press Writer Thursday, July 31, 2003


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(07-31) 11:42 PDT EAGLE, Colo. (AP) --

Kobe Bryant has already said he had sex with a 19-year-old hotel worker who has accused him of rape, but new reports present a more complicated picture about what happened in his mountain resort suite a month ago.

ABC News and the Vail Daily, citing anonymous sources, reported that Bryant and the woman had some consensual sexual contact but that she did not agree to have intercourse with him.

The network also said the woman, a concierge at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera, was in Bryant's room for less than a half hour. Both ABC and the Vail paper reported that Bryant gave inconsistent statements to Eagle County authorities.

Police and court records have been sealed and Judge Frederick Gannett has limited what officials can say about the case. Gannett was to hear arguments Thursday during a hearing on whether the records in the case should be made public.

ABC and the Vail paper reported that Bryant's accuser gave him a tour of the hotel when he arrived June 30 and that he later asked her to come to his room.

The Rocky Mountain News reported Thursday that law enforcement sources close to the investigation said the woman suffered physical trauma in the vaginal area. The Vail paper also reported that its sources said the woman showed signs of physical injury.

Krista Flannigan, a spokeswoman for the Eagle County prosecutor, declined comment Thursday. Sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Andree said her office would not comment on the reports.

Andree said only two people in the sheriff's office have regular access to the investigative records, and said she trusts both not to release information. She said such action would be grounds for dismissal.

AKA2D '91 08-06-2003 03:19 PM

Kobe will appear in court this evening....

AKA2D '91 08-06-2003 06:33 PM

Wifey Vanessa was MIA.

The Preliminary hearing is scheduled for October 9th @ 1pm MT.

so anxious 08-07-2003 11:25 AM

just another point of view
 
I was watching Kobe's court preceding on Court TV and there was a very outspoken sista that felt like Kobe was trying to lean on African Americans for sympathy (much like OJ) and never did much for the AA community. I must admit it makes me a little upset to see black athletes marry white women once they have reached their "status" and I guess SOME would consider that turning your back on your people. But I think that this whole cases might turn racial much like the OJ case plus, with the town only having (2) two AA I don't think that he hearing is going to be as equal as it could be....one of the first things I would have requested is an change of venue!

What do you all think?

Steeltrap 08-07-2003 11:32 AM

Re: just another point of view
 
Quote:

Originally posted by so anxious
I was watching Kobe's court preceding on Court TV and there was a very outspoken sista that felt like Kobe was trying to lean on African Americans for sympathy (much like OJ) and never did much for the AA community. I must admit it makes me a little upset to see black athletes marry white women once they have reached their "status" and I guess SOME would consider that turning your back on your people. But I think that this whole cases might turn racial much like the OJ case plus, with the town only having (2) two AA I don't think that he hearing is going to be as equal as it could be....one of the first things I would have requested is an change of venue!

What do you all think?

First of all, Vanessa Bryant's not white. She's multiracial, mainly Latina.
Secondly, there are plenty of AA athletes who are married to AA women who don't, as it were, "do much." I think they are concerned about their commercial appeal and moneymaking potential, and it's a reflection of the society we live in.

Not everybody's going to be an Arthur Ashe or Jackie Robinson, or nor should they be. IMO, everybody has different priorities, but as I've said, this trial may make OJ look like traffic court.

From what I understand, there was a change of venue request, but I don't know the status of it.

so anxious 08-07-2003 12:08 PM

Re: Re: just another point of view
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Steeltrap
First of all, Vanessa Bryant's not white. She's multiracial, mainly Latina.
Secondly, there are plenty of AA athletes who are married to AA women who don't, as it were, "do much." I think they are concerned about their commercial appeal and moneymaking potential, and it's a reflection of the society we live in.

Not everybody's going to be an Arthur Ashe or Jackie Robinson, or nor should they be. IMO, everybody has different priorities, but as I've said, this trial may make OJ look like traffic court.

From what I understand, there was a change of venue request, but I don't know the status of it.

Thanks for the clarification BUT Vanessa isn't black therefore, he still marrying out of his race. True some AA athletes don't give back to the AA community that are married to AA women--point taken:)

FeeFee 08-07-2003 04:47 PM

Re: just another point of view
 
Quote:

Originally posted by so anxious
I was watching Kobe's court preceding on Court TV and there was a very outspoken sista that felt like Kobe was trying to lean on African Americans for sympathy (much like OJ) and never did much for the AA community. I must admit it makes me a little upset to see black athletes marry white women once they have reached their "status" and I guess SOME would consider that turning your back on your people. But I think that this whole cases might turn racial much like the OJ case plus, with the town only having (2) two AA I don't think that he hearing is going to be as equal as it could be....one of the first things I would have requested is an change of venue!

What do you all think?

Kobe isn't even 25 years old yet, what expectations does this woman have of him??? Who said Kobe was leaning on the AA community??

Vanessa's mostly Latina, which means that if you dig far enough into her family tree, you will find people of African descent.

Like Steeltrap posted, there are plenty of AA athletes/celebs with AA spouses who don't do much for our community.

encouraged1 08-07-2003 06:52 PM

You're right. But if you don't support your own community then don't expect that support in return. Kobe was no-show at the BET Awards 2 years in a row but somehow made his way to two 'mainstream' award shows in the midst of a sexual assault charge hanging over his head.

He turned his back on his own BLACK parents and dumped his BLACK girlfriend for a Hispanic girl who had not even finished high school. And now he's reaching out to black folks??? I think it's a little too late.........

Steeltrap 08-07-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by encouraged1
You're right. But if you don't support your own community then don't expect that support in return. Kobe was no-show at the BET Awards 2 years in a row but somehow made his way to two 'mainstream' award shows in the midst of a sexual assault charge hanging over his head.

He turned his back on his own BLACK parents and dumped his BLACK girlfriend for a Hispanic girl who had not even finished high school. And now he's reaching out to black folks??? I think it's a little too late.........

FYI: Kobe reconciled with Jellybean and Pam (his parents) after the birth of Natalia.

And remember, it was a jury full of AfAms who saved Ohhhjjenthal from his date with ol' Sparky.:p

encouraged1 08-07-2003 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steeltrap
FYI: Kobe reconciled with Jellybean and Pam (his parents) after the birth of Natalia.

And remember, it was a jury full of AfAms who saved Ohhhjjenthal from his date with ol' Sparky.:p

Yea, we did save OJ :) But I think the jury and the AA community were really showing their support for Johnny Cochran.


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