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DeltAlum 05-26-2003 11:18 PM

I probably should weigh in here.

I've been to every place mentioned here (so far), and have been to Texas many times. I worked for a Texas company for a while.

In my personal opinion, Texas is OK. Not stupendous. It's got some great stuff and some bad stuff. One thing it certainly doesn't lack is ego. In fact, again in my opinion, what makes people dislike Texas has more to do with the attitude that Texans try to stuff down your throat than anything wrong with Texas.

The fact is that everywhere I've lived, visited or been to for business has good and bad points. Texas is far from my favorite, but it also isn't the worst by a long shot.

I know that some of the attitude is supposed to be in fun, but it gets out of hand. It's great to be proud of your state, but not at the expense of someone elses. We're all proud of our states, and some take major offense at someone putting it down.

Games are fun, but name calling can get ugly and cause serious hurt feelings. So far, this has been OK, but let's keep it that way, huh? Have fun, but be mindful of others.

GeekyPenguin 05-27-2003 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by tinydancer
Aw, Penguin - I have lived here in Texas all my life and I have NEVER milked a cow! I'm a city girl.

I would freeze up there where you are!!;)

I love it here - we get all four seasons! I love winter, I am goofy like that. I think it's because I like hats and mittens so much.

DolphinChicaDDD 05-27-2003 12:40 AM

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Maybe we could have a New York, New Jersey battle here. I won't trash another state, but it might be fun to watch.
I could never trash NY...its too close to my second home. I stare out my window, and see Manhattan. I run across the bridge from my town for part of my workouts, and I'm in a boro of NYC.

Now if someone from South Jersey started raggin on North Jersey, then I'd have to accept. Which leads me to a question- does anyone else's state have a North vs South, or East Vs West or some kind of geographical feud about their state??? I think the whole reason Jersey has that kinda thing is because the people in South Jersey identify with Philly and the people from North Jresey identify with NYC.

Just curious...

valkyrie 05-27-2003 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
One thing it certainly doesn't lack is ego. In fact, in my opinion, what makes people dislike Texas has more to due to the attitude that Texans try to stuff down your throat than anything wrong with Texas.

I know that some of the attitude is supposed to be in fun, but it gets out of hand. It's great to be proud of your state, but not at the expense of someone elses. We're all proud of our states, and some take major offense at someone putting it down.

Well said (as usual), DeltAlum!

GeekyPenguin 05-27-2003 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
I could never trash NY...its too close to my second home. I stare out my window, and see Manhattan. I run across the bridge from my town for part of my workouts, and I'm in a boro of NYC.

Now if someone from South Jersey started raggin on North Jersey, then I'd have to accept. Which leads me to a question- does anyone else's state have a North vs South, or East Vs West or some kind of geographical feud about their state??? I think the whole reason Jersey has that kinda thing is because the people in South Jersey identify with Philly and the people from North Jresey identify with NYC.

Just curious...

I think Wisconsin has a Milwaukee v. Madison v. everyone else fight!

I loved Jersey when I was out there this summer - my aunt lived in Basking Ridge and her condo was so pretty and in a wooded area, and then 5 minutes away were stores. It was great.

And bagels out east - wow! Not even close to Panera, which I loved until then.

polarpi 05-27-2003 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by SoCalGirl
It's more like 20 minutes (give or take)!

Yay for SD!

I agree, yay for SD! Where else can you go to the beach, a ballgame, a hockey game, the desert, the mountains, or a vineyard (as well as Mexico) within a 30 minute drive?

California is awesome...why do you think I moved back home after school (besides obvious financial reasons, of course ;) )...in order to be close to Sea World, Disneyland, LA, a drive to San Francisco, you name it, I want to go there! :cool:

SoCalGirl 05-27-2003 02:40 AM

North/South Feuds
 
NorCal vs SoCal is often a fun arguement to have with a friend.

bethany1982 05-27-2003 02:44 AM

The NorCal vs. SoCal can be more than fun... split the damn state... joke. I like it the way it is.

DeltAlum 05-27-2003 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Well said (as usual), DeltAlum!
Thanks, but badly spelled. I went back and corrected a couple of major errors in the original. I might have had a nip or two when I wrote that.

I think the idea was plain, though.

aggieAXO 05-27-2003 01:25 PM

OK guys I have never said "such and such state sucks"-can we be a little more tactful?

Thank you,
ONE PROUD TEXAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sistermadly 05-27-2003 02:00 PM

Southern born and southern bred, but now I'm happy to wear Canadian red! :D

librasoul22 05-27-2003 02:16 PM

GREAT THREAD
 
I think the reason why Texans have to keep boasting and shoving it down our throats about how "great" they are is that they know deep down how mediocre TX really is.

Myself, I am from Florida (born in Atlanta, and raised in a little bit of both).

I am also a big fan of NYC and Boston.

What bugs me most about Texas is how they claim to be "SOUTHERN" (and I don't mean geographically...clearly Texas is located in the southern portion of the country. I mean SOUTHERN with history and heritage). Um, no. You want southern, check Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, even north Florida. What Texas is, is a bunch of people who try too hard. Keep trying guys, you might one day pull it off (not).

jennybloch 05-27-2003 02:24 PM

What's so bad about Oklahoma? Some people think it's all hick-town because they've never been there. The people are nice, it's not too polluted, there's decent stuff to do, and they have good schools, just like about every other state in the nation. I have relatives there, and I've never felt uncomfortable or unwelcome there.

But I'm from New Mexico...no one seems to have mentioned us yet.

Dionysus 05-27-2003 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by jennybloch
But I'm from New Mexico...no one seems to have mentioned us yet.
Because there's like...no people there.

I think the state's population is what my city's population is. :eek:

Optimist Prime 05-27-2003 03:15 PM

VA has a beach, moutains, and lots of historical stuff.

xo_kathy 05-27-2003 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
Michigan

* The weather will always keep you on your toes (snowing one day, bathing suit weather the next)
* Surrounded by the Great Lakes...perfect for summer getaways
* Mackinac Island ROCKS! (it's gorgeous and they have awesome fudge)
* Great places for camping and other nature getaways
* Canada, Chicago, and Cedar Point are within a reasonable driving distance
* Plus, we have the best Teacher colleges and universities in one state...everyone recruits here

Last But Not Least...
* Where else can your hand double as a map!?!

Agreed, Leslie! PLUS, without Michigan you all would be doing an awful lot of walking!!!!

And, as long as I live in NY and will be happy to be a New Yorker, I am first and foremost a Michigander! (Another reason to love Michigan - I think we have the coolest nickname!!!)

DeltAlum 05-27-2003 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by aggieAXO
OK guys I have never said "such and such state sucks"-can we be a little more tactful?

Thank you,
ONE PROUD TEXAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's true, however another Texas person (whom I shall not name) started a whole thread entitled "Nebraska Sucks" or something close to that. I'm absolutely sure it was meant as humor, but some people do and did take offense.

Use of that word when talking about states, cities, etc. is not uncommon in the hallowed halls of GC.

And, I agree. Let's be kind to each other.

GeekyPenguin 05-27-2003 04:11 PM

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Last But Not Least...
* Where else can your hand double as a map!?!
In Wisconsin!

damasa 05-27-2003 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
In Wisconsin!
Exactly....that is the first state that comes to mind.

DeltAlum 05-27-2003 04:23 PM

Michigan and Wisconsin are both really neat states -- we've lived in both. Everything from major cities to beaches to spectacular scenery.

Add to that, really good people.

(I wonder why they're both right hands?)

GeekyPenguin 05-27-2003 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Michigan and Wisconsin are both really neat states -- we've lived in both. Everything from major cities to beaches to spectacular scenery.

Add to that, really good people.

(I wonder why they're both right hands?)

I use my left hand for Wisconsin...I thought everybody did. We always did that at Student Council camp to show where we were from!

DeltAlum 05-27-2003 05:31 PM

Hmmm...

Guess it depends on whether you look at the palm or the back.

PrincessHeather 05-27-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by PiKA_Phil
Cali baby!! unsurpassed in all areas of coolness. :D
I second that!

I'm a NorCal girl but I love SoCal too! Man this is the best state!! from the snow to the ocean and everywhere inbetween you can't get much sweeter than Cali

Shake it Cali Shake it!!
California knows how to party!

FiReKraCkEr 05-27-2003 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by jennybloch
What's so bad about Oklahoma? Some people think it's all hick-town because they've never been there. The people are nice, it's not too polluted, there's decent stuff to do, and they have good schools, just like about every other state in the nation. I have relatives there, and I've never felt uncomfortable or unwelcome there.

But I'm from New Mexico...no one seems to have mentioned us yet.

For a girl from NM, you suuuuuuure do like Oklahoma! ;)

jennybloch 05-27-2003 05:58 PM

I've just spent a lot of time there...like I said, I visit relatives. No one's really picked on NM, so I thought I'd stand up for a neighbor :cool:

damasa 05-27-2003 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by KDatUTC
For a girl from NM, you suuuuuuure do like Oklahoma! ;)
I was thinking almost the exact same thing!

FiReKraCkEr 05-27-2003 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
I was thinking almost the exact same thing!
Well, ya know....great minds think alike :D

The1calledTKE 05-27-2003 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by KDatUTC
For a girl from NM, you suuuuuuure do like Oklahoma! ;)
Hey I know somebody that from Oklahoma... interesting ;)

wreckingcrew 05-27-2003 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
That's true, however another Texas person (whom I shall not name) started a whole thread entitled "Nebraska Sucks" or something close to that. I'm absolutely sure it was meant as humor, but some people do and did take offense.

Use of that word when talking about states, cities, etc. is not uncommon in the hallowed halls of GC.

And, I agree. Let's be kind to each other.

It was entitled, "Reasons why Texas is better than Nebraska" and it was started with the sole intent to poke fun at docetboy.

In an earlier group chat he had said that Texas sucks, so i went ahead and posted a thread of why i thought Texas was better than where he lived.

It was not meant to flame anyone and was a joke, but with all the apparant anti-Texas sentiments on this board it quickly became a insult fest.

Whatever, i'm done on this thread. For the record, i believe that thread was the only time i've (loosely) said some other place sucked. I've lived in Denver and Northern Virginia besides Texas, as well as spent ample time in nebraska and south dakota as well as NYC due to family. So, believe me when i say that Texas is the best placed i've lived.

*EDITED to add*

"nebraska" thread in question:

Reasons Texas is better than nebraska

threads where i have used the word 'sucks':

Rushing the field

Fun game


so i guess i did 'say' that Nashville sucks, but that was more a stab at Nashville country music as opposed to Texas music

Kitso
KS 361 times people on GC like to take little jokes and blow them out of proportion

aephi alum 05-27-2003 07:25 PM

Looks like it's up to me to weigh in for Connecticut :D

- Quaint little New England towns
- Not too far from NYC or Boston (I'm a city girl)
- Affordable houses (in most towns anyway)
- 4 distinct seasons and weather that keeps you guessing
- The world's worst drivers :p

docetboy 05-27-2003 07:33 PM

I might live in Nebraska, and love the cornhuskers, but I am a native Coloradoan...however, I will not support any of their college teams, but BRONCOS ROCK!!!

(and beats the shit out of the 'cowboys')

DeltAlum 05-27-2003 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
It was entitled, "Reasons why Texas is better than Nebraska" and it was started with the sole intent to poke fun at docetboy.

In an earlier group chat he had said that Texas sucks, so i went ahead and posted a thread of why i thought Texas was better than where he lived.

It was not meant to flame anyone and was a joke, but with all the apparant anti-Texas sentiments on this board it quickly became a insult fest.

Kitso
KS 361 times people on GC like to take little jokes and blow them out of proportion

Kitso,

You have my appologies for misrepresenting the name of your thread. Without using the word "sucks," though, that was pretty much the message I read into the post -- even though, as I said at the time, I was sure it was done in humor.

However, from the PM's I got after my post, I will tell you that there were people hurt and offended by the thread.
Take that for whatever it is worth. The same goes for anyone else who decides it is OK to take a direct frontal attack on someone else's home state, city of residence, etc. I think that's 361 kinds of thoughtless. At least some people didn't consider the thread a "little joke."

I will just reiterate this: I believe I've still been to everywhere mentioned before and since that post (although I haven't gone back to really double check). None of those places is perfect, and no place is worthless. Whether one place is better than another is purely a matter of what we are comfortable with and what we like or dislike.

I would go on, but to what end? No opinions are likely to change, are they?

DolphinChicaDDD 05-28-2003 12:07 AM

Umm, so I've been looking at the map of the US the last few days that I have been sub. teaching...and I still am missing the hand as a map thing. Does it look like a hand or something, cause I'm missing it....
:confused:
someone help a confused east coast girl out...thanks

AlphaSigOU 05-28-2003 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
Umm, so I've been looking at the map of the US the last few days that I have been sub. teaching...and I still am missing the hand as a map thing. Does it look like a hand or something, cause I'm missing it....
:confused:
someone help a confused east coast girl out...thanks

Hint: look at the lower peninsula of Michigan... :) Looks suspiciously like a mitten, doesn't it? :D

GeekyPenguin 05-28-2003 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
Umm, so I've been looking at the map of the US the last few days that I have been sub. teaching...and I still am missing the hand as a map thing. Does it look like a hand or something, cause I'm missing it....
:confused:
someone help a confused east coast girl out...thanks

Hold the back your left hand out in front of you. It roughly looks like Wisconsin - it is a good method for pointing out where you are from. For example, I would tell people Platteville is just above your wrist on the outside, and my hometown is where the bone from your thumb meets the bones in your palm, my cottage is the top knuckle on my middle finger...it's a vague Wisconsin map.

CatStarESP4 05-28-2003 02:28 AM

I have lived in New York, Connecticut and Arkansas. I now live in Arizona, in the Phoenix area. It is growing annually and it is cosmopolitan. The highways and freeways have Southwestern motifs carved or painted on them. I have visited Sedona and it is breath taking.
http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/spiny.gif http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/pyth.gif http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/monalisa.gif :D


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