That is a great point, xp2k...for example, our TKE chapter chartered in 1969, and they are Mu-Nu. That's a pretty impressive amount of chapters for the time, and I have no idea what they are on now.

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I was on campus last Sunday for a meeting with the chatper. I drove past the TKE house-looked the same-big red TKE on the side of the house. I drove by yesterday and the TKE is no longer there-just the outline of where they had been. Couldn't tell if anyone was in the house-but it was 2pm on a Sat afternoon. Didn't look like anyone was-but there was a grill out back (not on or anything, i just noticed it was there). The house is on the corner and I was stuck at the light-how i got a good look at it.

Madmax: I say more power to TKE IHQ if they want to run an underground chapter. I just think it will become a problem for them. Think about it, if you do something that is agaisnt the rules and you get busted and have a sentence levied by the courts and then get told by say your parents or faculty that you can just ignore it. Is what you did still not wrong and should you not abide by the ruling? What does this tell this chapter if TKE IHQ pulls their charter in the future for something? It's alright we can still run a TKE chapter, we did it before after breaking the rules and nothing happened to us. That's when you have a national org file cease and decist papers. Like what happened to TKE IHQ 6 years ago at my school.

I will not deny that the early GLO's were not recognized. But they also didn't lose recognition. I would also like to remind you that rules and laws change. IFC was created to level the field and try to have everyone operate in union. Recruitment and the like should be done together not seperately. NIC, NPC, NPHC, IFC etc were created to for GLO's to help each other and create rules for everyone to live by. If you don't follow the rules you don't deserve to play.

What do you think is easier for a National HQ to work with a school that recognizes chapters and chapters who are recognized or a chapter that is out there and doesn't have local restraints? Can an HQ assure that since there is not local recognition and control that they will step in and over see all that the University and IFC did?

The questions about evictions are up to the municipality who writes the zoning codes. If the code reads that all persons living in student rentals must be active students then yes they should be evicted. If it reads that all persons living in a chapter house must be a member then yes they should be evicted. If you want to break or bend one law you must allow for all to be bent or broken. Do you really think that a murderer should be let off just cause after he murdered someone he gave $1000 to charity and helped 12 old landies across the street in 30 minutes? Look at it that way. Should a Heroin dealer be let off because he put all of his profit towards charity? The law is the law, you have to follow it until it is changed. If you don't like it get it changed.

I think pulling the charter on a chapter just because the Host Institution says they don't like them is BLANK (I'm trying to find a word that describes it harshly enough without using profanity). Just because the Administration or the local townies don't want parties or whatever is ridiculos (spelling?). To the townies=if you don't want to hear party music or what not then don't live next to a frat house. You're in a college town, get used to it. Or leave, no one is forcing you to live there (apart form certain economical reasons) and you can leave anytime you wish. Its a free country. To the city offficals of Newark=You are the city officals of Newark. I've been to Newark and can assure you that you have bigger problems than a fraternity party that got out of hand or what not.

ooo...I thought of something for BLANK
...they don't like them is absurdilly malignant, and is an affront to the meaning of brotherhood.