LOL, yeah so YOU'D take THEIR tired, hungry, sick, poor, etc, etc, etc

oh. i didn't think about it that way :p

Re: MAD AT THE WORLD!!!
 

As opposed to the chemical weapons stamped "Made in America"... you got to remember that the US armed and supported Saddam wholeheartedly during the 80's. All this talk about Anthrax and VX (which by the way was developed originally by the US) is a little hyporcritical... and thats a relatively common view worldwide.

Hey now... after all the US defalted on the war loans that the French shelled out during the War of Idependence...

Small by comparison, but true. But I still don't think that has any comparison to the money that The U.S. government loaned them in WWI and WWII. Much more than a repayment on the defaulted loans from the War of Independence. The French have made no comparable effort.



In any even, the French were also trying to help their interests in defeating the British by granting the "colonials" those loans.

There was a small article in "Time" about all this a few weeks ago...they talked about how sales of some products (like imported French cheeses) have gone down, while others (like French wine) have still been strong.

could end up being an interesting historical sidenote nonetheless...

Ahh, that would be freedom scorn! :D

Ahahhahahahhahaha. Thats some funny $hit yo.

I think we oughta kick the living sh*t outta Saddam first, and when the war is over then parcel out the oil franchises, deliberately excluding the French and the Germans -- better yet, give 'em some land that's guaranteed to drill up dry! And when they come and complain to the world that they've been mistreated and left out of the spoils of war, Gee Dubya oughta turn around and say to Chirac in his West Texas twang, 'Payback for a veto's a b*tch, ain't it?

As opposed to the chemical weapons stamped "Made in America"... you got to remember that the US armed and supported Saddam wholeheartedly during the 80's. All this talk about Anthrax and VX (which by the way was developed originally by the US) is a little hyporcritical... and thats a relatively common view worldwide.

Political Historians can you shed light?
I may very well be wrong about this, but I didn't think we had any sanctions at that time that prohibited the distribution. (Stupid definitely, but not against international agreements)

If that is correct, the timeline for the weapons/parts would, in comparison, be illegal.

The French are so stinky!
How stinky are they?
They are so stinky that Americans have substituted ANOTHER name of a common product....






Jacques strap!
Thank you Canada for your contribution to the "protection" of Amrican Men!http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/remybussi.gif http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmili...py/roflmao.gif

The French

"My favorite bumper sticker in Washington D.C. right now is the one that says 'First Iraq, then France'."
- Tom Brokaw

"The French announced today that they would not help us remove Saddam from Iraq. Well Duh! They didn't even help us remove Hitler from France."
- Jay Leno

"France said this week they need more evidence to convince them Saddam is a threat. Yeah, last time France asked for more evidence it came rollin thru Paris with a German Flag on it."
- Dave Letterman

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. All you do is leave behind a lot of noisy baggage."
- Unknown

I'm not going to worry about what the French should or shouldn't do, or anyone's personal feelings about the war.

But does anyone else think that besides being junior high-ish to not say French fries or french toast, that this is a complete waste of time...Here we are on the brink of war, and people are more worried about bashing the French then they are of the possible consequences (both good and bad) of our actions?

To me it seems so irrellevent that this is even taking place, let alone to come from a representative from Congress. My best friend's boyfriend is getting shipped to the Persian Gulf on Tuesday and this guy is holding a grudge against the French and venting it by changing the name of french fries? F-in' ridiculous...:mad:

a pastor said that 'going to war with france is like going to war with a spitball. its worthless' :)

Thank you! Well stated.

By the way, french fries are from Belgium.

I understand the patriotic sentiments, especially right before war, but everyone seems to be mad at France for not paying. However, if that is a basis for good global citizenship, I would like to point out the deliquency of the United States to pay simple membership dues to the UN. We have been removed from committees because we refuse to pay our dues. What really makes us any better than any other country in the world that we are somehow exempt from these dues? Is it possible to say that factors have led us to be trigger happy?

Look at the US history, we have a great way to put our guns where they shouldn't be. South America...and I do mean the WHOLE continent. We put Sadam into power, we supported him and when he executed opponents the first day in the senate, on TV, we excused him. When he exterminated the Kurds, we excused him. Perhaps deterance hasn't worked for us with him as it did Stalin, but diplomatic means are the best way to go. If it eventually leads to an UN SANCTIONED WAR, so be it, but going in as renegad countries, is not the means to achieve global harmony...where does this war stop...excuse me 'conflict' as we have not had a delcaration of war, only a shady delegation of that power by congress.

Those are my two cents. :)

Iraq has used biological weapons against the Kurds in the north of Iraq before, as well as against Iran in the 1980's, however "based on a US Senate Committee on Export Administration report of 1994, we know that between 1984 (at the latest) and 1989, private American suppliers were exporting all kinds of chemical components to Iraq, after obtaining licensing by the US Department of Commerce. According to the report, "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction." They included:
Bacillus anthracis - Causes anthrax
Clostridium botulinum - Source of botulinum toxin
Histoplasma capsulatam - Causes a disease that attacks lungs, heart, brain, and spinal cord
Brucella melitensis - Bacteria that can do major damage to organs
Clostridium perfringens - Highly toxic bacteria that causes systemic illness
Clostridium tetani - Also highly toxigenic
E.coli, genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, precursors to chemical-warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare production facilities and chemical-warhead filling equipment were also exported (all according to this report).
The report mentions: "It was later learned that these micro-organisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program"(During the first rounds of inspections in the 90's) (Blum, Rogue State, p. 121-123). "

HEY, thanks for the info, I really did not know!

About the humor- If you look back to the Great Depression, at the point of denial, people took their sorrows to the "clubs". Jokes, booze and what money people believed they had left flowed like water. It was ONE alternative to jumping out the window. Our people are under stress, we have discourse in our country...in our world. Thank GOD we have humor! As it has been said, "Humor is the best medecine." I think it helps people deal with the horror of what may come. So ...make me laugh. I think we all could use a good one!

My mom told me that someone ordered a French Martini the other night, and she just couldn't help correcting them.

Has anyone mentioned "Freedom Maid" yet?
Seems like a contradiction... :p

Doesn't sound very sexy or exotic.

I just want to know who partied in the 'freedom quarter' at mardi gras this year?Wait thats french, at Fat Tuesday, this year?

That's very fitting since the French helped give us our freedom. Twice.

This world is F*cked up...

oops... sorry... pardon my freedom...

LOL

Did anyone see "Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live this past weekend? Hilarious! They were talking about the "freedom" fries and all and did a "jimmy and tina yelling at america" segment. They said things like:

French fries aren't from France, they're from Belgium. Some stupid American named them wrong in the first place!

Why are you pouring your French wine into the street? You already bought it! You are not hurting the French by not drinking it!

And my favorite:
The French have taken to the name chaning idea - they are now calling American cheese "Idiot cheese".

It was really funny!!! :D

Fun is fun, but, given the importance of everything else happening in the world, I find this whole "Freedom/French" movement pretty superfluous. (I wonder if that spelling is even close?)

CTFU!! CTFU!!!!

This is tooo funny! :D

Gotta see this:
http://www.starspangledicecream.com/index.cfm

Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

Received this e-mail today:

France has every right to disagree with America, but France has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America. France President Chirac warned East European nations that if they sided with the US, France would oppose their membership in the European Union. This very week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq and has been helping Irag build long range missiles. These same missiles may NOW possibly be used against our own US
soldiers.

Just as France has exercised its right to disagree, all Americans can exercise their right to boycott and help countries that do not stand with us.

French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > Air France
> > Air Liquide
> > Airbus (airplanes in commericial use)
> > Alcatel
> > Allegra (allergy medication)
> > Aqualung - including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers and SeaQuest
> > AXA Advisors
> > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas)
> > Beneteau (boats)
> > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin)
> > BIC (razors, pens and lighters)
> > Biotherm (cosmetics
> > Black Bush
> > Bollinger (champagne)
> > Car & Driver Magazine
> > Cartier
> > Chanel
> > Chivas Regal (scotch)
> > Christian Dior
> > Club Med (vacations)
> > Culligan (owned by Vivendi)
> > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods)
> > DKNY
> > Dom Perigonon (champagne)
> > Durand Crystal
> > Elle Magazine
> > Essilor Optical Products
> > Evian
> > Fina (petroleum products) and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields)
> > First Hawaiian Bank
> > George Magazine
> > Givenchy
> > Glenlivet (scotch)
> > Hennessy (liquor products)
> > Houghton Mifflin (books)
> > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989)
> > Jameson (whiskey)
> > Jerry Springer (talk show)
> > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers)
> > Lancome - Le Creuset (cookware)
> > L'Oreal (health and beauty products)
> > Louis Vuitton
> > Marie Claire
> > Martel Cognac
> > Maybelline
> > Mephisto (shoes & clothes)
> > Michelin (tires & auto parts)
> > Mikasa (crystal and glass)
> > Moet (champagne)
> > Motel 6
> > Motown Records
> > MP3.com
> > Mumms (champagne)
> > Nissan (cars - majority owned by
> > Renault
> > Nivea
> > Normany Butter
> > Parents Magazine
> > Peugeot (automobiles)
> > Pierre Cardin
> > Playstation Magazine
> > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics - France)
> > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatachi Advertising)
> > RCA (television & electronics - owned by Thomson Electronics - France)
> > Red Magazine
> > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France)
> > Renault (automobiles)
> > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France)
> > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffe makers,
> > Royal Canadian
> > Salomon (skis)
> > Sierra Software & Computer Games
> > Smart & Final
> > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor group)
> > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone)
> > Spencer Gifts.
> > Sundance Channel
> > Taylor Made (gold clubs & equipment)
> > Technicolor
> > T-Fal (kitchenware
> > Total Gas Stations
> > UbiSoft (computer games)
> > Uniroyal (tires)
> > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks - owned by Vivendi
> > US Filter
> > Veritas Group
> > Veuve Clicquot Champagne
> > Vittel
> > Vivendi
> > Wild Turkey (bourbon)
> > Woman's Day Magazine
> > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50% stake)
> > Yves Saint Laurent
> > Zodia Inflatable Boats

Lastly, a French compay was awarded a $700 million plus contract to operate the 55 mess halls of our US Marine facilities. Call your congressman and ask that this be rescinded regardless of the cost. This is an absolute insult to our Marines.

This boycott has been promoted by NewsMax's and has been frequently mentioned by Bill O'Reilly on the O'Reilly Factor.

That's a long list... I'll just stay away from French wines.

DKNY :confused: I thought that was Donna Karen New York? Or do they just make the clothes in France?

i'm all about boycotting the french garbage:D

A friend e-mailed this to me, but since I'm so inept at all the fancy computer stuff, I'll just retype it here. It's food for thought:

BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS

Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well, maybe because it's a French company.

OK . . . have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some magazines you may have heard of.

Those magazines would be Elle, Car & Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it? OK, so we have Car & Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.

So . . . are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name? Saddam Hussein.

I've heard of both companies, but I didn't know that Saddam Hussein was a part owner. :eek: I have a subscription to Elle, but I have already paid for it. I am pretty shocked to learn this.
MSKKG, where did you learn this? I consider myself a pretty informed person so this news surprises me.

Cream, a friend of mine just sent me the e-mail. I can neither confirm nor deny its validity. I just thought it was interesting. Even if it turns out not to be true, it's the kind of thing that could be. Follow the money, and people's motives will make more sense.

:eek: And the plot thickens!! <dramatic music> Dam-Dam-DUMMM!</dramatic music>

I am not sure how to confirm this information, either. I know that there are many investors in publishing companies so it's possible.