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FirstAndFinest 02-11-2004 01:06 PM

Plan for my Pins
 
I'm hoping to have a daughter one day, so hopefully she will go ADPi (can a 2nd generation legacy NOT go ADPI?????_:eek:

I may have a step-daughter one day soon... Are they considered legacies? Never saw anything about that in COB. :confused:


I recently learned the my chapter LOST the President's Badge. That got me thinking... What methods or plans do chapters that have President's (or scholarship, et al) badges have in place to ensure that they stay with the chapter?

skerbow 02-11-2004 01:30 PM

Re: Plan for my Pins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FirstAndFinest
I'm hoping to have a daughter one day, so hopefully she will go ADPi (can a 2nd generation legacy NOT go ADPI?????_:eek:

I may have a step-daughter one day soon... Are they considered legacies? Never saw anything about that in COB. :confused:

Leslie - See your pm...I replied to the legacy question.

Sisters, please do not reply if you are going to get specific about our selection process. It is to be kept between initiated sisters. Please remember there are Alphas on the mb and other greeks. If you want to know my reply, please pm me. I'll be happy to share what i know.

skerbow 02-11-2004 01:33 PM

Re: Plan for my Pins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FirstAndFinest
I recently learned the my chapter LOST the President's Badge. That got me thinking... What methods or plans do chapters that have President's (or scholarship, et al) badges have in place to ensure that they stay with the chapter?
My chapter actually didn't have a presidents badge. They had a president's necklace with a gavel charm. This was passed down for many years, and I believe still is. Texas*princess can you confirm this for me??

ADPiAkron 02-11-2004 03:19 PM

Neither did my chapter...I do not think we had anything. They passed on the gavel to the next president is all I knew of...although I was never president. (stupid stupid me!)

texas*princess 02-11-2004 03:25 PM

Re: Re: Plan for my Pins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by skerbow
My chapter actually didn't have a presidents badge. They had a president's necklace with a gavel charm. This was passed down for many years, and I believe still is. Texas*princess can you confirm this for me??
Yes it is still in use today :)

ehope 02-11-2004 04:41 PM

i feel like i heard there was an international officer that has a fantastic collection of pins and that she brought to either a DLC or Grand Convention for everyone to see. the collegiate province director of rho chapter mentioned that she had seen them and they were beautiful.

so maybe they'll be make a travelling exhibit!

skerbow 02-11-2004 04:46 PM

Yes i have heard the same. I think honey has made reference to her before, but without naming her.

Wouldn't that be wonderful if there was???

FirstAndFinest 02-11-2004 05:31 PM

I have seen that collection and it is wonderful! The sister brought some to a DLC and a larger selection (including the Adelphean badge) to 150th Convention. She's also an ebayer, her name is on our list, and she once emailed me (not realizing that we know each other!) to say that she really wanted a certain badge I was also bidding on. Gosh, that was a few years ago! Anyway, her latest addition is an all-opal with an opal guard - simply breathtaking!!

honeychile 02-11-2004 10:15 PM

I'm almost positive that the sister with the fabulous collection is Maureen Callahan? I've never seen it myself; Beth Hamilton has told me about it. I would LOVE to see a poster or such made of the pins - as I've said before, one of the beauties of Alpha Delta Pi is that, just like our pins, we're each originals & diverse, yet our diamonds are indentical!

FirstAndFinest 02-15-2004 11:13 PM

Not a badge, but a lavalier
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=11145

In case you are interested

skerbow 02-15-2004 11:33 PM

That one is my favorite!! My bf wears it around his neck to remind him of me. :)

HBADPi 02-16-2004 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
I'm almost positive that the sister with the fabulous collection is Maureen Callahan? I've never seen it myself; Beth Hamilton has told me about it. I would LOVE to see a poster or such made of the pins - as I've said before, one of the beauties of Alpha Delta Pi is that, just like our pins, we're each originals & diverse, yet our diamonds are indentical!
Maureen came to HB when I was formal recruitment chair and helped me run a 2 day recruitment workshop. I believe her position is something in alumni relations but she was helping out our DIII recruitment advisor.

Anyways she showed us her collection which was really amazing. She has one of the original adelphean badges and all sorts of varieties of our pin. It was great to see that not only does she collect but she is also willing to share it with other sisters. I know a lot of the girls in my chapter where blown away by the collection. The one thing marueen did tell us was that there is a group of people (all of them are not necessarily greek) that collect greek pins and once and awhile they all get together and trade. She said she got a lot of the rare badges that way. Someone will go to an estate sale or see something on ebay and buy it and then offer to trade it with marueen for a non-adpi pin in her collection (I guess I should mention she collects other badges too but I didnt see that collection).

I completely agree with everyone that the people on ebay who just run up the prices are just cruel and it really stinks when a badge goes to a non-sister but who knows maybe the person who buys it ends up trading it with marueen and the pin finds its way back to us again!

Oh and Marueen told us that if we ever needed to buy another pin to contact her before buying anything off ebay because she might be able to get us a better deal. I thought I'd throw that out there in case someone is looking for a pin. So maybe if more sisters look internally rather than on ebay to get replacement pins there willl be less competition on ebay and that way we can watch actions like sitting ducks and attack at the very last minute and hope the price doesnt go as steep as it could.

ADPiAkron 02-17-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Not a badge, but a lavalier
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FirstAndFinest
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=11145

In case you are interested

I wear that charm! I got mine from Gift Mart...they are getting them for all of the seniors this year at Beta Tau!!

skerbow 02-20-2004 01:41 PM

This may sound like a weird question, but does anyone have an Alpha pin in their collection?

We had to give ours back during the beginning of Diamond Days. I would love to add one to my collection.




edited for caution's sake!

honeychile 02-20-2004 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skerbow
This may sound like a weird question, but does anyone have an Alpha pin in their collection?

We had to give ours back during our B* D* Ceremony. I would love to add one to my collection.

We all had to return ours at the beginning of Diamond Days, but our Alumnae Association at the time paid for each of us to keep ours. They also made cute little frames for them, so I still have mine! :)

skerbow 02-20-2004 02:09 PM

Re: Re: Not a badge, but a lavalier
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FirstAndFinest
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...;category=11145

BTW If you really want to bid on this charm, consider this...The beginning bid is $40. the charm costs $20 brand new with giftmart. Just an FYI.

polarpi 02-20-2004 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
We all had to return ours at the beginning of Diamond Days, but our Alumnae Association at the time paid for each of us to keep ours. They also made cute little frames for them, so I still have mine! :)
That's awesome! We also had to give ours back at the beginning of Diamond Days, so I don't have mine :( There are times I wish I still did have my Alpha pin, but the thing is, when would I realy wear it? If I had it framed or something, that'd be different, but otherwise it'd probably sit in my badge box and I'd never wear it or share it with others.

honeychile 02-20-2004 09:37 PM

*blush*

Our Alpha pins cost a whopping $2.50 each when I was a pledge!

lonestaradpi 02-20-2004 11:32 PM

What a beauty
 
Wow, have you seen the latest badge on ebay? If there wasn't a sister bidding on it, I would for sure and maybe even borrow $$ from my savings! It is an all opal one from 67. It is so pretty! Best of luck ladies.

skerbow 02-20-2004 11:33 PM

Yep. :D I have one just like it. It was my great Aunts. She was initiated in 1936.

lonestaradpi 02-20-2004 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skerbow
Yep. :D I have one just like it. It was my great Aunts. She was initiated in 1936.
Wow! I am impressed, but also jealous! That's so cool. Beautiful and sentimental!

skerbow 02-20-2004 11:44 PM

Yes. She had no heirs. And when my mom told her I had joined a sorority, she asked which one. Mom told her ADPi, she said, i have a special gift for her. So on my 20th bday, it was given to me as a gift. I cried. I wear it everyone. My poor badge, never gets any attention.

lonestaradpi 02-20-2004 11:52 PM

That is such a great story! What a true treasure!

FirstAndFinest 02-23-2004 05:44 PM

Alpha pin
 
I still have mine. See, I was one of my chapter's last Pledges, and it's a long story, but my pledge pin was not collected from me.

GPhiBLtColonel 03-24-2004 04:31 AM

Re: Re: TyOregon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cutiepatootie
Sorry to crash your board...... Tyoregon does have a daughter and mother and they are both Alpha Phi's our EO knows of his daughter and EO has seen her serious collection of Alpha Phi badges that daddy warbucks ( tyoregon) has bought for her. He is a not very nice man if you ever deal with him on an email level. Even if your the nicest sincerest person who emailed him a non threatening email he still is a creep.

He does run up the board to outragious amts and in my opinon is a creep. He tells everyone he has a daughter that is a KD,APHI,KKG,ADPI, etc... i don't know his reasoning but nonetheless a jerk

I love your idea of guardians of the diamond program to help "save " your badges... you all should be commended for trying to save your heritage like us all against creeps like him!

Laura


Just a note from another board crasher:) I have had some email run-ins with TyOregon and I am sorry to say this about another of God's creatures but the man is evil & conniving! He has told one of our international officers who emailed him about a badge of ours he was bidding on that he has a Gamma Phi daughter and Gamma Phi holds a special place in his heart blah blah blah...Laura is right that this man has deep pockets and a bad attitude! Nasty side note -- I once did a search to see what other kinds of things he bought besides sorority badges -- well I learned that he has something like a 46 inch waist and wears sweater vests (in 2XL)!! He also collects anything associated with the Portland (OR) rose festival and stamp boxes......

wptw 03-24-2004 11:21 AM

Hey, is this where all the cross-forum board crashers are hanging out? Cool.

You find the guy a nasty human being, so you'll just drop right down to his level and start insulting him based on his weight and choice of clothing?

That's some real class there! :rolleyes:

wptw

ASUADPi 03-24-2004 11:22 AM

This man sounds amazing (and not in a good way).

I just don't get pin collectors, male or female. What the hell is the point of collecting sorority/fraternity pins. Trying to make up for the fact that themselves or a family member didn't get a bid? What?
I mean our (our in every fraternity and sorority) have pretty much NO VALUE to anyone outside that particular sorority/fraternity. I just don't get it.

As Denzel Washington said in Philadelphia "will someone please explain it to me like I was a five year old"

ASUADPi 03-24-2004 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wptw
Hey, is this where all the cross-forum board crashers are hanging out? Cool.

You find the guy a nasty human being, so you'll just drop right down to his level and start insulting him based on his weight and choice of clothing?

That's some real class there! :rolleyes:

wptw

For someone to crash our forum and say we have 'no class', I would say you need to mind your business. You don't know the situation at hand. So in other words, keep your insulting comments to yourself.


Sorry if I sound like a bee atch, but this irked me.

wptw 03-24-2004 12:35 PM

Brianna, I'm not sure which of your posts was more off the mark.

First of all, I was replying to GPhiLtColonel's comment about the guy's waist size, which I maintain was just plain mean. Truly a low blow. I mean, she even prefaces it by saying "nasty side note". But judging from her username, I'm going out on a limb to say she's not an ADPi. So you see, I didn't say YOU have no class. Please read carefully.

As for your other post about collectors collecting badges to make up for the fact that they didn't get a bid... I DID get a bid, which I accepted. As did just about every other badge collector out there. So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

wptw

ASUADPi 03-24-2004 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wptw
Brianna, I'm not sure which of your posts was more off the mark.

First of all, I was replying to GPhiLtColonel's comment about the guy's waist size, which I maintain was just plain mean. Truly a low blow. I mean, she even prefaces it by saying "nasty side note". But judging from her username, I'm going out on a limb to say she's not an ADPi. So you see, I didn't say YOU have no class. Please read carefully.

As for your other post about collectors collecting badges to make up for the fact that they didn't get a bid... I DID get a bid, which I accepted. As did just about every other badge collector out there. So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

wptw

Fine if you want to reply to GPhiLtColonel's post, it's called quote her post. You didn't. So I do have a right to assume that you are in fact dissing anyone whom has posted on this thread.

I don't why collectors are so interested in our (all fraternity and sorority) pins. I can only guess, that was my guess. Obviously, not everyone is going to fall into that category.

But since you are most likely a pin collector, why don't you explain it to me. Explain why pin collectors are rude and conniving? I'm not saying you are those two charactoristics, but the pin collectors I've delt with are. They make the bids on ebay so astronomical that a sister can't even attempt to save her own sororities pin. And that is all it comes to saving our pins from collectors who have no business owning them in the first place. Explain it to me. I want to understand and I don't.

wptw 03-24-2004 12:55 PM

Huh? My post was the very next one and I referenced her comment almost verbatim. I don't see how that was unclear in any way. But OK, next time I'll quote her post for you.

There are a ton of threads here on why badge collectors collect badges. They appear weekly, sometimes daily. All your questions are answered there.

But as a quick summary, I'd say you appear to confusing collectors with dealers. You may also be basing your opinion of collectors on one guy (tyorgegon) who most actual collectors would tell you is not part of our little "community". And I'd say that ebay automatically sets market price. If the opening bid is too high, the item won't sell. So while YOU may consider the opening bid "astronomical" and prohibitive, if someone bids on it, then that's how much it's worth. And I'd say that what drives the price up to astronomical levels is generally not collectors but members. And I'd point out that one of your own beloved sisters is one of these "evil and nasty" pin collectors. All of these points are discussed on recent threads on the subject. Do a quick search on my username and you'll find them. I post almost exclusively on this topic.

EDIT: I went back and removed my "rollseyes" smiley from this post because I sense you really do want to understand this.

ASUADPi 03-24-2004 01:04 PM

I get that ebay sets a market price, obviously I wasn't clear on what I meant with the bidding getting astronomical.

For example I was bidding on a pin. Let's say ebay was saying the high bid was 50. So I go in and put 51, like ebay instructs and it says I've been outbid. I go in again and raise it. Come back with the same result. It turned out that the high bidder, which was a collector, had bid like 150. So that meant until someone outbid that we were always going to be told, we've been outbid. That is what I mean by making it astronomical. The seller could start the bid out at 20 bucks, but if someone goes in an bids 150, ebay isn't going to say that. It's gonna say that the high bid is 20 bucks. I'm not sure if I am making any sense. If I'm not, I'm sorry.

GPhiBLtColonel 03-24-2004 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wptw
Hey, is this where all the cross-forum board crashers are hanging out? Cool.

You find the guy a nasty human being, so you'll just drop right down to his level and start insulting him based on his weight and choice of clothing?

That's some real class there! :rolleyes:

wptw

This is only thing I will say on this matter and then I am done crashing ADPi's boards --- I did not "insult" tyoregon -- I stated what I learned he has bid on and bought besides badges -- it's the facts as you can see on ebay yourself.

I prefaced my remark by saying it was a "nasty side note" because that is just what it was and I admit it -- it is always nasty to talk about someone behind their back.

I apologize to the women of ADPi on this board who have to deal with these comments because of what I posted. :(

texas*princess 03-24-2004 06:15 PM

Let's all play nice please!

GPhiBLtColonel, you are always more than welcome to browse and reply to the ADPi Forum! :)

ASUADPi 03-24-2004 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GPhiBLtColonel
This is only thing I will say on this matter and then I am done crashing ADPi's boards --- I did not "insult" tyoregon -- I stated what I learned he has bid on and bought besides badges -- it's the facts as you can see on ebay yourself.

I prefaced my remark by saying it was a "nasty side note" because that is just what it was and I admit it -- it is always nasty to talk about someone behind their back.

I apologize to the women of ADPi on this board who have to deal with these comments because of what I posted. :(

Sweetie, you don't need to apologize for this other person's behavior. I completely echo Texas Princess' sentiment, you are more than welcome to crash any time you want. :)

texas*princess 03-24-2004 06:29 PM

ASUADPi is right! No need to apologize! I always see what other people have bid on / or have sold before also :)

GPhiBLtColonel 03-24-2004 06:33 PM

Thank you guys very much -- I felt really bad for the "furball" that ensued because if what I posted. Y'all are very sweet!:D

wptw 03-24-2004 07:31 PM

It wasn't that she sees what other items he bids on. I do that too. It's the obviously disparaging remark she made about his waist size.

GPhiBLtColonel, why don't you apologize for what you said, and not for what other people said to you after you said it. Yours is a classic NON-apology: "I'm really very sorry that someone called me out on my crappy comment."

The implication of your comment was very clear: The guy's a fat nerdy dork. Or were you trying to be complimentary when you mentioned his 42 inch waist? This guy made you mad on a badge auction so you personally insulted him. It just wasn't nice, and I think you know it.

Back to topic:
ASUADPi, yes, now I understand what you're saying about ebay. They call that their proxy bidding service. But again, it's not always a collector putting in the $150 proxy bid - it could just as easily be another sister. I find that collectors usually use proxy bidding and sniping while members (especially those new to ebay) tend to do what you do - bidding it up $2 at a time and being continuously outbid. When you have a lot of bidders using the latter strategy, the final price tends to be inflated. That's why I've always argued that member on member bidding drives up prices far more than collector bidding. Collectors very rarely overpay for a given badge because they're most familiar with badge market prices (ebay and off-ebay).

I hope that explains it a bit.

wptw

texas*princess 03-24-2004 07:49 PM

wptw, please refrain from flaming other GCers on this board :)

In GPhiBLtColonel's original post she just posted what she learned by viewing his past ebay wins.

Thanks :)

wptw 03-24-2004 10:04 PM

Yeah. Noted, thanks texas*princess. I'm quite sure she was just innocently noting his waist size with no malice whatsoever. :rolleyes:

Next time the collector being bashed on here might be your beloved badge collector sister Maureen, and then I'm sure you'll be all up in arms.

Anyway, your message is quite clear:

Insulting GCers = bad.
Insulting strangers who aren't members of GC and can't defend themselves here = OK.

Keep up the good work! :rolleyes:

wptw


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