Actually, mine cover the hospital bill.........Then again I have really good health insurance.

Actually I know people who buy GBL and then convert it into GHB. GBL is some nasty stuff and easily puts you in the hole. I won't do it knowingly. I think thats used to date rape chikcs more than GHB.



Another thing I seen done.....people take a gallon of GHb, then boil it in a pot until most of the water is evaporated......makes it much more powerfull and you need very little to get where you want to be.

EXACTLY. Everyone is going to have a slightly different experience on the same drug depending on their environment.

Um...should I be getting defensive about this? :confused:

First of all, I have yet to post any info on GHB, GHL, NBC, CNN, MTV, whatever. Why? Because I have not, and will not, use it.

My post in this thread was an attempt to clear up misinformation going around. If you take the time to READ rather than floating around in your drug-induced stupor, perhaps you would see that it was James, not me, that said you were inaccurate. THANKS.

And as for taking what you say with a grain of salt, I will continue to do so. It is not like you have an awesome trackrecord with honesty, bud.

Also, KSig RC is the only one posting sources. I think ANYONE who questions the veracity of other's facts should at the very least post the sources of their own info.

I feel sorry for anyone who comes on here posting about how many times they have tried these drugs as if it is something to be revered, like old war stories or something. :rolleyes: Sad.

Ok look at what you're saying- you're basing your opinions on experience. I don't think there's anything wrong with that- that's exactly what I'm doing. But don't sit here and tell me that the people that died didn't take X.You said yourself that it can make you overheat, and that's exactly what happened to a girl I worked with. The people at the club saw her lie on the ground and cook herself to death. Obviously her parents wanted an autopsy and guess what was in her system? X. My logic is no different then yours, since you believe your friend od'd on GHB even though the doctors said it wasn't there.
When I had GHB or Special K (they didn't find traces of either but it was obviously one or the other) they told me I just got drunk. So I totally understand that doctors sometimes can get it wrong and you have to go by what you just 'sense'. But given that, all we can go on is what we've experienced. I don't see how you can guarantee that no one has died from X, only imitation X. I think that's a pretty big claim to make.

You dorks. GHB is out and roofies are in.

I don't know how this thread got hijacked but whatever...

As for people dying from rolling on E: There was a big news story around here last year about a girl named Brittany from an affluent suburb who's friends had given her one pill for her 16th birthday party. Long story short she ended up curled up in the upstairs bathroom being aided by a couple of friends. They eventually called an ambulance where she was taken to the hospital, connected to life support only to be later declared brain dead and removed from support.

The news stories quickly proclaimed that E had killed her and launch a witch hunt after the kids who gave it to her. What most people failed to notice was that the actual cause of death was drowning. Apparently she drank several gallons of water in a very short period of time. This girl you know who collapsed on a dance floor probably didn't drink enough or any.

Therefore, I would actually agree with UFPike (I'm a shocked as you are.) Deaths from pure MDMA are usually a result of misuse whereas tablets that have been mixed are anyone's guess.

This is the best paragraph in this thread IMHO. "Drugs are cool. I'm cool because I do drugs" is such an adolescent mindset.

Maybe I said it wrongly....

MDMA will not kill you.......It was once prescribed to alcoholics as well as given to nazi soldiers during WW2....

What can kill is the bunk shit people soemtimes get off the street. There are things that are mixed with mdma that can kill you. Pills these days are cut up with pretty sick shit inorder for the dealer to make a profit. When I was on my rampage in 97-98-99, there were still good quality pills floating around. Nowadays it's hard to determine whether it's good or not.....thats why you don't buy from those you don't know.



Oh and as for your friend who "cooked" herself to death.......
Odds are she didn't have E....it was more than likely PDMA or something like that. Why? Because thats what it does to you. It's fake X and MANY people have died from it. Do some research on it online and you'll see that I'm correct. It literally does cook your body. First you have a heat stroke, your body temp does not stop rising until you're baked.

Actually, no one is saying that. All we are doing in this thread is giving out information to people who are doing the same thing or are thinking about doing it.


The people who have came in here downing us for saying some of the things we say, like librasoul22, you have no right to down us with comments like "Go off in your own little druggy world " or like the one i quoted above. First off you people who have never done either drug should not be saying anything about them or those of us who post our exp with them, expecially those of you who know very little knowledge about them.

The original purpose of this thread was to inform people of some things. We are giving 4 different aspects about these drugs.

1st- you have the info that you read from the internet or someones web site, which we all know is not always accurate.

2nd- you have the info given by those in the medical field, individuals who have a vast array of knowledge but actually know very little about street drugs.

3rd- you have stories from those who have had a bad experience with the mentioned drugs in this thread and therefore are going to give their own warning about the use of such drugs.

4th- you have individualswho have had awesome experiences while using them for recreational purposes and are thus telling their stories.....some came out right and claimed to use them and those who hinted at their use but didn't outright claim to.

It is obvious, and well stated in a few posts, that some of you have never and never will use these drugs.....yet you are the ones who are telling people how bad they are, not to use them and how harmful they are to your body. It would seem logical not to say anything if you do not fall in any of the 4 categories mentioned above. How can you have a valid point of view, worth stating, if you don't fall in any of the categories? Thats like me telling you how $hitty it is to be the president of the united states when I have in fact never been in that position.

As far as bad info goes....everyone is going to have different things to say about the mentioned drugs. You as a person must form your own belief about them based on many different things, not just the word of someone on a website.

OKay so because people have never done a drug they are not allowed to comment on drugs? Especially when there is easily accessible research on every drug you have mentioned so far?

That is so retarded.

What is wrong with you?

You described a night where people were drinking, doing coke and GHB. If that doesn't sound like something that is COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL then it is your own damn fault for describing the events extremely poorly. It sounds like wanton substance abuse to me, and as with most of your posts it seemed like you were doing it to make yourself and your not-so-intelligent clique look cool for some obscure reason.

It is not cool.

As someone who has family whose lives were ruined by drugs I personally think you sounded like an eight-grader trying to impress his dumb friends by describing the dumb shit he does, and CERTIANLY not like someone exploring the consequences of drug use. YOur friend in the hospital is the one who is just starting to realize them. You seem to think that we should all just avoid GHB.

Give me a fuckin break! Yes you condemned GHB but left a whole other category of narcotics as okay.

Do you even read what you write?

UF_Pike, I am just gonna keep posting to give you more reasons to say my name in your posts. Your attention would be flattering if you weren't so annoying.

I mean, 9/10ths of what you say (on ANY topic actually) is pretty much false. So why should what you post on here be any different? All I said was to post the source that your info came from. That way, one can read the facts for themselves. God help us if our only source of knowledge is your posts. I also said that to James. Do you read? Guess not.

And please, don't try to come down on me about the drug-induced stupor comment. You brought that one on yourself. Read each post you have made in this thread and tell me you didn't. If you do HALF the drugs you imply, you are probably in a PERMANENT drug-induced stupor and from what you post, you really give me no reason to believe otherwise. I mean, what else would cause such nonsense?

I feel like that teacher on South park, "Drugs are baaad."

Personally, I've seen the damage that drugs can cause up close. I haven't used illegal drugs because, like many people in the US and presumeably on GC, a family member's life has been devastated. The thing is he didn't use drugs regularly. He had only tried drugs a few times in reaction to peer pressure and his own curiosity. He had a terrible reaction, wound up hospitalized for months, and still carries the scars to this day. It is very sad. He had shown so much promise, and it is gone. This happened before I was a teenager so he was a cautionary tale to me. That's not to say that everyone who uses drugs will have a lifetime of medical and health problems, but why tempt fate? Nobody knows how his or her body will react to any drug, so why risk it?

I think that UF_Pike's intention in this thread was to educate people who use GHB about the potential health problems and risks associated with it. It's sort of a GHB public service announcement. I really don't think that this thread glorifies drug use or encourages anyone to start using drugs.

UF_Pike I'm sorry about your friend. I hope that she makes a full recovery. :)

Not trying to start a war with you, but go back and re-read what I wrote. I didn't say only those who have never tried the two drugs.....I said those who do not fall into the 4 categories should not comment.


Thanks

I'm going to stop replying to your post now. You totally missed what I was saying in the thread that mentioned your name. You took it as me attacking you for whatever reason. I was not. I was using a post by you and cuphi as examples and reasons for my text.

Stop thinking people are always talking about you. As for 9/10ths of what I say being false, and the manner in which you talk about that.......I'm sitting here in the gym at my desk laughing at you. Your attitude toward others is the reason why you don't have many friends. Trying to pick a fight with others will not get people to like you. It only shuns other people away from you, along with that voice of yours.

I already posted one independant source that pretty much agreed with what I posted . . . did yall miss it?

In conclusion...shut up.

I thought you said you were going to Mardi Gras. Isn't that today?

Why yes, yes it is today!

LOL.

You guys, maybe he meant that gym in New Orleans on Bourbon St. You know the one...

I went to NO this past weekend. Unlike some of my friends, I have a job now. I couldn't stay past sunday.

You're such a douche bag......*sniff sniff*

I think that librasoul and UF_Pike need to get a room. :p ;)

LOL. If this were to happen, only one of us would come out alive. And I don't the the world would be that much worse off without him anyway, lol.

*heh*

Sorry for the bump but I just want to add to this so that people will realize that GHB is indeed potentially-dangerous.

GHB can cause death, but not for the reasons that people have always known like deep sleep.

Most of the GHB-related deaths are caused by choking. Yes, choking. Victims choke on their own vomit. They're paralyzed and they can't move their head to spit out the vomit. Source: facts about ghb

If you do decide to take it, make sure that you're with someone you trust and is not taking it.