Item has been pulled
 

Thank goodness!

It is now no longer being listed. Either it sold or got pulled.

i'm guessing it's been pulled cuz items that have sold can still be viewed after the auction has ended for a certain amount of time.

as for the signifigance of badges as opposed to ritual garb, i do agree that ritual garb is varies between glo's. badges are the same all around though. for instance, my great grandmother was a kkg and her badge was left with her estate and now my grandmother has it. i contacted her and asked if i could have it. mainly b/c i knew she wouldn't understand the signifigance and it would end up getting lost eventually. also b/c i want to eventually send it back to nationals.

as for when a chapter closes, at least in sigma kappa's case, everything having to do with ritual is taken back to nationals. technically they own all of it. this includes any ritual garb or books or anything. they even go so far as to take the shroud we use to cover our charter when a member dies. don't freak, that's not secret. anybody can know that.

anyhow, i think it's quite sickening to see people sell fraternity/sorority stuff they think exposes ritual or any other type of secret. as for badges, they just don't care. as one seller put it to me, "it's how i make a living."

shelley j
sigma k

Brother Jono and I had talked about this tonight and I checked out the Robe thread!

He did send the BTP paraphanalia site to ebay!

It is against their contracts and am sure it will be taken care of!

While WE ALL may use Robes in Ritual it is our business!

Jono has had dealings with this same person and has a large dislike for him! I am trying to say it nicely!

Used men's undies! :eek: Now I have seen everything! :rolleyes:

They are back!!
 

I got my daily favorite search for ZETA TAU ALPHA (Yes I am addicted! Is there a group out there? :p ) And guess what was included in the list???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:SS:US:1

Yep, you guessed it!! The items that we thought were pulled, with the same description. (With the keyword spamming!
:confused: ) I am not trying to start more discussion about how these items were lost, but how Ebay can pull them and allow them put back on!!! ARGH!!!

Off my soapbox!!

Meredith

I think we should respect BetaRulez!
 

If he said it's not secret stuff, then we should believe him.

I know that at my friend's chapter, someone's mom helped to make some of the stuff ages and ages ago. And the ritual book has guidelines for making the stuff in ritual. Someone's dad or boyfriend helped the girls make it because they had to cut the wood with a saw.Not sure what they made (I am assuming a table or something-it wasa a lot of wood!)At least that's what they were told. Not sure if that's true.But it just shows that everyone is different and if your's is top secret, don't harsh on someone's who's isn't.

Well, it's not eBay's fault. With the insane amount of stuff on that site, they only notice items if they are brought to their attention. If it's reposted under a different title, they wouldn't automatically notice it is the same item. That's where the concerns citizens like Greekchatters come in ... yes, go through the rigamarole of reporting it again. If one user is reported often enough, eBay will start automatically checking his/her stuff or yanking his/her user ID.

I thought eBay pulled used underwear listings. I think there was a big hoo-hah about that a year ago or so, but perhaps it was female lingerie.:eek: :confused:

The reason that ebay reposted it was because he changed the end of the description. Now instead of telling you key words that you can look up he made it sound like all of those organizations can use the things that he is selling when in fact it is the alpahbet divided by comma's.

at least nobody has bid on it. three days left and no bids as of yet. is there a way to report him to ebay or anywhere? this whole thing is completely disgraceful.

shelley j
sigma k

As of Fri. 10:00 p.m., the bid was $19.95
 

As of Fri. 10:00 p.m., the bid was $19.95

i reported him again, b/c he's still keyword spamming, just trying to make it appear legitimate. They're probably be yanked soon, they'd already been reported.

Oh boy!

hmmm in my opinion.. not only is it just wrong to sell *used* underwear on eBay, I think what's even worse is the way he described the item:

"I got these shorts during one of my pledges held at my frat house about a year ago. They were required to be worn during initation after Rush Week - most of that time, these were the only thing we had initates wearing..."

I have a hard time believing this person that he does in fact belong to the organization, but that description was a little TMI if you ask me.

btw- our buddy selling the Beta Theta Pi stuff got his auctions pulled again :D

thanks to everyone else who reported it too!

kddani,

I just checked the auctions, and not only are they not pulled, but people have bid on them. :( I am not sure what link you checked, but look at my earlier post. Those are the ones that I clicked....

Meredith

that's really weird
I had had them in my watched auctions,and it said "this item is no longer available" for them which means it's been pulled. But then i go to the links given here, and they're there.
Strange.
That sucks!

Now, I understand that there are some people out there who have fetishes for used undies, and so would buy them on ebay. But, not those kinds, I wouldn't think!

What is this world coming to? :rolleyes:

Even though the auctions got pulled, does not mean he can't sell the items via email or just communicating with someone. if he chooses to, he can contact the highest bidder and sell the items without the help of ebay's listing...

but that's just a thought.

2 cents cause Im bored
 

Not to sound like a bad greek or anything....

But lets be realistic- SO what if some greek obsessed non greek or closet ritual collector finds out by surfing the oddball corners of the internet what the two rubies in "ABC" sorority mean.

"Con God Damn Ratulations" to them.

To me alot of the mystique of the GLO coms from when you are 18 years old at that time of your life anyway. Our ritual was awesome to me at the age of 18, you cant take that experience away.

Two KA's from somewhere in California came up to one of my brothers at an airport in Colorado in 1998 and told him some secret items from my fraternity's ritual. And he was mightily upset about it. While not desirable, did this ruin my fraternity experience? No. Did a brother somewhere along the way run his mouth- probably. Did I lose any sleep over it- not a wink

But there are such people out there that get their rocks off by looking for this stuff, and they did it before ebay and they will continue to do so. In my mind the real threats to greek life are apathy at the chapter level and a lack of alumni involvment.

To me that is by far more dangerous than someone hunting for the Theta Chi handshake on ebay.

again, just my two cents

JFL

Actually if his auctions did get pulled, all trace of them is deleted, so unless he got the information beforehand or the bidders went out of their way to contact him, he wouldn't know who had bid.

Re: 2 cents cause Im bored
 

I very much agree. Obviously people have told secrets for generations and it hasn't caused the collapse of the Greek system yet. While frustrating, it's definitely not that bad.

As long as the ritual means something to YOU, that should be far more important than somebody else finding out ritual secrets. Yes, it sucks that people are telling, but it's also inevitable that somewhere along the line this would happen.

We can't change the actions of people outside the Greek system who don't realize the importance of ritual, badges etc. What we can change is stuff that poses a real threat to the future of GLOs on college campuses -- as you pointed out, "apathy at the chapter level and a lack of alumni involvment," things like that. That's what we should be saving our frustration for.

Yeah, it sucks that somebody unrelated to my sorority might find out secrets related to it -- at the same time, does that change my sorority experience at all? No.

I don't think the fact that this isn't the worst thing to ever happen to Greek life is quite the point. I'll agree, it isn't. But if your friend is miserable with a cold, do you say, "Cheer up, it's not cancer"? Well, I hope not!

Minor problems are still problems. Yes, there's a reason GLOs aren't dedicating all their resources to this sort of this, but that's no reason for individual members not to be vigilant. EBay has really exasperbated the problem by opening these markets up. If I wanted to sell a secret Mu Mu robe 20 years ago, I wouldn't have known where to go. Now, everyone knows you can sell anything on EBay. That's why, for example, aftermarket pin prices have skyrocketed.

So if someone else wants to worry about something like robes, I wouldn't discourage them. You can worry about what you think is most important, without knocking them.