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NOWorNEVER 11-08-2002 01:54 PM

I believe prayer should be put BACK into American schools especially since this country was founded upon supposed Christian principles.

I believe atheists, agnostic believers, and those who don't believe God exists are living in ignorance.

I believe in the rapture and know in my heart of hearts that one day hundreds of thousands of people who have committed themselves to Christ will suddenly disappear causing tremendous chaos....and even then, people still will fail to acknowledge that there IS a God and blame it on aliens or some other type of "unexlpained phenomena."

And I know I'll recieve some flack for this, but I actually agree with racial profiling to an extent (and I'm black).

I believe there should be a national language and that it should be ENGLISH.

I believe foreign language studies should NOT be required in high school or college.

ZTAMiami 11-08-2002 02:42 PM

GREAT Thread:D

LovelyIvy: I agree 100%

I think there should be mandatory, yearly drivers license re-test for everone over the age of 60! You don't pass--you can't drive!

I think everyone could benefit health-wise from a vegetarian diet.

People who have their children removed their home should be sterilized.

Pedophiles should face life imprisonment on first offense.

12dn94dst 11-09-2002 12:38 AM

I believe the world is going to hell in a pollitically correct hand basket. People are so concerned with not offending anyone that they are losing sight of who they are and what they believe as individuals.

I believe that a good deal of the discipline problems we see in children can be attributed to parents who are too damn lazy to raise their own kids, letting the television raise them until they're old enough to go to school and expecting the already underpaid & overworked teachers to raise them until they go off to college.

I believe that some parents are so preoccupied with not wanting to raise their kids how they were raised, abuse cases excluded, that they forget they (the parents) didn't turn out badly.

Jerry Springer, Ricky Lake, Jenny Jones and other "talk" shows that rely heavily on shock value to get ratings should have been off the air LONG ago.

Schools should stop using standardized tests as a means of promotion for grade school kids. Instead of teaching these tests, we need to go back to teaching the BASICS. Kids should know how to read at or above their grade level before they proceed to the next one (on a side note, I don't beleive in social promotion). They should know how to write a grammatically correct sentence and be able to diagram it. They should be able to divide large numbers without depending on a calculator. They should be able to confidently tell people that New Jersey is a state (not a city), Atlanta is a city (not a state), that Africa is a continent (not a country) AND they should be able to locate these and many other parts of the world correctly on a globe. And my personal favorite, they should be able to use context cues in a sentence to determine possible meanings of words in that sentence they don't know.

I believe that some school administrators use the "zero tolerance" policies as an excuse not to use the critical thinking and problem solving skills they allegedly acquired in college.

librasoul22 11-09-2002 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NOWorNEVER
I believe prayer should be put BACK into American schools especially since this country was founded upon supposed Christian principles.

I believe atheists, agnostic believers, and those who don't believe God exists are living in ignorance.

I believe in the rapture and know in my heart of hearts that one day hundreds of thousands of people who have committed themselves to Christ will suddenly disappear causing tremendous chaos....and even then, people still will fail to acknowledge that there IS a God and blame it on aliens or some other type of "unexlpained phenomena."

And I know I'll recieve some flack for this, but I actually agree with racial profiling to an extent (and I'm black).

I believe there should be a national language and that it should be ENGLISH.

I believe foreign language studies should NOT be required in high school or college.

To all of these, I say DAYUM! :eek:

Lizanabavi 11-09-2002 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Speaking of that, like Eve cursed women, I believe that some black person (or people) in the bible did something to curse this race, that hasn't be documented.

Dionysus, before you read my response to your post; Dont have your back against the wall. Be receptive to what I write, for I am challenging your opinion.

In your aforementioned view of Eve cursed women this is incorrect. If you read carefully in the book of Genesis chapter 3 beginning at verse 8 God is walking in the garden. In verse 9 God calls Adam and says " 'Adam, where art thou' "? Not Eve. God held Adam responsible for everything in the garden of Eden. From naming the animals to the emotional and physical well-being of Eve his wife.

God cursed man for their disobedience. As you read farther in the chapter; from verse 15 to end of that chapter; God goes in depth how they both will be cursed. Please read that for your own clarity.


Concerning your latter view of how you feel that someone in the bible did something to curse the black race is ridiculous.

Now I will play Devil's Advocate with this one.

If what you feel is true: then I will tell you a few people in the world who are cursed as well.

Have you ever listened to classical music? I'm quite sure you have -Being that you are a woman of panache.:rolleyes:

Beethoven- the world-reknowned composer was a black
man. His mother was black.

Alexander Dumas- author of The Three Musketeers
a black man.

Alexander Pushkin- A Russian literary genius. May I
interject? (Black people live in other
countries besides Africa.)

Eleanor Roosevelt- wife of one of our U.S President's
paternal grandparents were black. She is also a member of
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated. Which is
predominately black.


The Egyptians- too often members of other persuasions
choose discredit this fact. Why do you think
the nose and other facial features from
Egyptian sculptures have been destroyed?
Particularly The Great Shinx.

What you fail to realize is that by you having this view: And, making the insensitive comment you made(wrote). Are the reasons why many black men and women for years were; degraded; lynched; assaulted; and mamed.

Dionysus, Am I going pull a jig to get you to "like" black people? or Try to change your view? No. My people fought too hard.

But, I suggest that you that you take into consideration your verbiage and not make that comment again.

NOWorNEVER 11-09-2002 03:45 AM

Good grief!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lizanabavi

Concerning your latter view of how you feel that someone in the bible did something to curse the black race is ridiculous.

I suggest that you that you take into consideration your verbiage and not make that comment again.

Not meaning to be rude or come off the wrong way, but I thought this thread was for Radical and Controversial opinions, not the God-spoken truth:( :confused:
Some black people even believe that the race is cursed. I don't, but I'm just saying...can we all agree to disagree? I'm sure my opinions are ridiculous to some but I feel comfortable enough to share them, especially in a thread such as this.

CrimsonTide4 11-09-2002 09:32 AM

EVERYONE is entitled to state his or her "Radical and controversial" beliefs in this thread.

Lizanabavi, for the record, DIONYSUS IS BLACK!! She might not be as "afrocentrically" immersed as you, but she is BLACK. Thank you for the Black History lesson.

There are a couple of opinions expressed in this thread that I totally disagree with but I am not here to knock anyone's hustle on what beliefs they espouse.

This thread is a chance for folks to express themselves with the notion that no matter what, no one is going to jump down their throat or belittle them for the thoughts/ideas/beliefs that they express and embrace.

By the way, this has been a very enlightening thread. . .

Moving right along. . .

I believe that corporal punishment should be returned to the classroom because I have a few students I would love to HIT!! :mad: Yes high schoolers need a beat down before they need IN SCHOOL SUSPENSION!!

Pepsichick 11-09-2002 03:37 PM

I believe that black people are cursed. We just can not get along.

cash78mere 11-09-2002 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lizanabavi

The Egyptians- too often members of other persuasions
choose discredit this fact. Why do you think
the nose and other facial features from
Egyptian sculptures have been destroyed?
Particularly The Great Shinx.
[/B]
as i learned from my archaeology courses in college, noses, arms ears and other unstructurally sound parts of statues fall off or are eroded naturally from the wind and time. in addition, the sand blowing around in the desert also helps to erode statues such as the sphynx. countless statues from even after the egyptian period are missing noses and limbs. the roman statues also are missing those important pieces.

KnowledgeEternal 11-10-2002 12:29 AM

I believe that many of the things Greek and Roman societies are given credit for originated in Egyptian society.

librasoul22 11-10-2002 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KnowledgeEternal
I believe that many of the things Greek and Roman societies are given credit for originated in Egyptian society.
This is not radical, this is TRUE.

stillwater15 11-10-2002 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by librasoul22


This is not radical, this is TRUE.

the truth can also be radical.

i want all this bilingual b.s. done away with. english is the official language of this country. before people are granted citizenship, they should be required to pass both english tests, reading, writing and speaking. you no pass, you go away.

Dionysus 11-10-2002 06:21 PM

*It's not always bad to be a follower sometimes, it can be a learning experience.

KnowledgeEternal 11-10-2002 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by librasoul22
This is not radical, this is TRUE.
I know but most history scholars do not want to accept that fact.

Love_Spell_6 11-10-2002 07:30 PM

"controversial" is my middle name!!
 
*I believe that you are NOT born lesbian, gay, etc. - it's a lifestyle that's chosen!! - I also believe that it is somewhat of a fad these days :eek:
*I believe that there is only one LIVING GOD - Jesus Christ
*I believe PRAYER should be put back into schools
*I believe if you cannot speak ENGLISH, you should not be allowed to open up a business, or work with the American Public
*I do not believe black people should get reparations in the form of $$ - if we get it at all, it should be in the form of education
*I believe that if most Black Americans spent more time seeking knowledge, education, and advancement, and less time complaining about what "The White Man" has done to us....we'd be a lot better off as a race
*I believe that MANY Black successful men that marry white women, do so because they are passive, and put up with -ISH that black women will not put up with
*I believe that if more women stood their ground and stopped dating drug dealers, (this includes being mesmerized by Escalade's, Navigators, etc) mama's boys, etc. - that these "men" out here would change their approach

*I believe that there is only ONE Sorority under the umbrella of the NPHC that has TRULY set the stage for all others to follow ......... and that is Delta Sigma Theta Innnnnncorporated!! :) :p :D ......I thought u knew!!

Dionysus 11-10-2002 07:34 PM

I think I said this before somewhere
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
*I believe that you are NOT born lesbian, gay, etc. - it's a lifestyle that's chosen!! - I also believe that it is somewhat of a fad these days :eek:

Speaking of sexuality. I believe that everyone is bi-sexual, what matters is what you act out on. In other words, no one is 100% homosexual, nor 100% heterosexual.

Pepsichick 11-10-2002 10:24 PM

Re: "controversial" is my middle name!!
 
:)

I also believe this new gay revolution is a fad.

zchi2 11-11-2002 10:14 AM

I think that if black people were given reparations than we would miss use it and blow it off with a couple of months on worthless material items.

I believe that more than 10 percent of the population is gay.

I DO NOT believe that college prepared me for the real world. I did not pay for an education. I paid for a piece of paper to hang on my wall.

Contrary to popular belief, I believe that black people are very hard working, we learn fast and we are good teachers. Not only do black people work hard at putting down members of our own race when someone actually achieves a higher level in life but we also learned quick from white people back in day of how a black person is supposed to act by being lazy, ignorant, criminals, and sex addicts. Black people learned so fast that we teach it to their children by letting the tv raise our children and by doing and saying whatever in front of our children.

I believe that if everyone had a TRUE relationship with God and not use religon as a way to condemn others, the world would be a better place.

Love_Spell_6 11-12-2002 04:39 PM

a few more things...
 
*I think that NO ONE should be on welfare for more than 5 years. I believe they should receive job training, but after that it should be cut. After the person has been in the workforce for a while, they should be REQUIRED to pay the $$ back. (like students) i.e. the only people who should receive a consistent monthly check from the government are the disabled and the elderly

*I believe that folx look at the people in the church, as if they are supposed to be perfect (i.e. scandals with pastors, the woman that clubs every night and sing in the choir) and when they are less than perfect, they use that to justify themselves not going to church or believing in God


*I believe that the Arab community in AMerica could do more to help combat the war on terrorism, and that they don't because some of them tacitly agree that Americans are all "evil-doers"

*I believe that if you are on welfare, and keep having children that you cannot support, your child-bearing (men and women) priviledges should be taken away.

*I think someone said this earlier....but Lifers in prison should have to serve on the front-line in war"

...that's all for now:D

BLUTANG 11-12-2002 05:03 PM

my only radical view is that anyone (read: all adults over 21) should be able to beat anyone else's child (read: anyone under 21) ANYTIME, ANYPLACE.

---- i mean, when neccessary.

Kimmie1913 11-12-2002 05:27 PM

I beleive people ar born gay but not every person living a homosexual lifestyle does so as a result of an innate attraction and some do so by choice.

I beleive American foreign policy fostered the attitudes towards Americans that caused 9/11.

I beleive that people should be paid a living minimum wage.

I believe there is that of God in everyone and anytiime you disrespect any human being you are disrespecting God.

I beleive the thing most lacking in American society is personal responsibility for one's actions and one's own life.

I do not beleive the playing field between races in the US will be even in my lifetime.

Steeltrap 11-12-2002 07:59 PM

Another thing: I believe that you must help yourself if you want help. That means if you're going to f**k, use birth control. This goes for men and women. I repeat, I don't want my tax dollars going to support somebody who can't practice self-discipline, particularly in view of the fact that I will not have a child unless I'm married.

And that's not for religious reasons -- I believe kids are better off in two-parent families where the parents had higher education.


Also, I don't believe that whole populations advance in lockstep from poverty to affluence. Civil rights only benefited people who were willing to seek knowledge, education and training, as it should be.

Dionysus 11-12-2002 10:18 PM

Re: Re: I think I said this before somewhere
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82


That is a radical opinion, cause aint no brotha with a johnson as big and black as mine going nowhere near my anus.

Well, that's kind of extreme. You're telling me that you never found another guy attractive? You don't have to bend over, LOL LOL.

Honeykiss1974 11-12-2002 10:44 PM

Re: Re: Re: I think I said this before somewhere
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus


Well, that's kind of extreme. You're telling me that you never found another guy attractive? You don't have to bend over, LOL LOL.

CTFU, CTFU at your post!! Girl, the things that come out of your mouth sometimes!! LOL

Ok, here are my "radical" ideas....

-I believe that people are not born gay/lesbian
-I believe that there is only one way to Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ
-I believe that we (as in AfAm) will never be looked upon as a "serious unified political force" within America because we are too busy keeping each other down "by any means necessary". :(
-I believe that our gov't let 9/11 happen in order to give them a "good" reason to go after Iraq
-I too believe that AIDS was created in a lab as a way to control "certain" :D populations

DoggyStyle82 11-13-2002 12:08 AM

Re: Re: Re: I think I said this before somewhere
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus


Well, that's kind of extreme. You're telling me that you never found another guy attractive? You don't have to bend over, LOL LOL.

Nope, not ever. Especially to the point of sexual stimulation. Now some men I believe are attractive to the opposite sex, but no, men are not the slightest bit attractive. Some are ugly as sin, but attractive.....nah. If it aint got a coochie, it can't be attractive.

Krisco 11-13-2002 03:15 AM

I think parents should be able to whip their kids arses when they get good and gosh darn ready to!


I think Physical Education should be taken as serious as Math, History, and Science Pass or Fail all way to senior high school!


I think children should not have freakin relaxers put on their heads before the age of 8. Actually period but if I see another 2 year old with scraggly thinning permed hair I am going to scream!

I think it should be okay to be a black republican

ladyjag99 11-13-2002 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krisco

I think children should not have freakin relaxers put on their heads before the age of 8. Actually period but if I see another 2 year old with scraggly thinning permed hair I am going to scream!


Who puts a perm on a TWO-YEAR-OLD??? :eek: That would be painful at that age, no matter how "mild" the relaxer is.

Kisha 11-13-2002 11:39 AM

Good deeds will not get you in heaven.

Kisha 11-13-2002 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladyjag99


Who puts a perm on a TWO-YEAR-OLD??? :eek: That would be painful at that age, no matter how "mild" the relaxer is.

While we are on children, I can't stand to see a mother, or father for that matter, who is dressed to kill, but her/his child looks dirty and bummy.

Also, it bothers me when I hear children singing words to lil' Bow Wow, but can't say their ABCs, 123s or tell their age.

Just triflin.

Sorry for digressing!

Dionysus 11-13-2002 12:26 PM

I don't believe that black people are more sensitive to cold weather, I think it's just psychological.

zchi2 11-13-2002 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
I don't believe that black people are more sensitive to cold weather, I think it's just psychological.
Amen to that, because I HATE hot weather. I prefer it is cold outside than hot. *I guess it's that Michigan blood http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/...ym/snowman.gif

Love_Spell_6 11-13-2002 09:59 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: I think I said this before somewhere
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82


Nope, not ever. Especially to the point of sexual stimulation. Now some men I believe are attractive to the opposite sex, but no, men are not the slightest bit attractive. Some are ugly as sin, but attractive.....nah. If it aint got a coochie, it can't be attractive.


gotta agree with you on this one dog. the thought of two women and/or two men is utterly DISGUSTING AND REPULSIVE!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

It's funny though...feeling that way wasn't radical 10 years ago....but now everyone wants to go along.... just to get along...

FeeFee 11-14-2002 12:00 PM

I have some educational issues
 
Quote:

Originally posted by zchi2
I believe:

~the SAT, ACT, GRE, MCAT, LSAT, etc. should not be used as a criteria to get into college.


To add to this, if a person has already taken the GRE, GMAT, etc. to get accepted into a Master's program and has successfully completed the program, he/she should not have to take the GRE. GMAT, etc. AGAIN to get accepted into a doctoral program, especially if it's in the same field of study.

I believe that remedial courses in english and math should not be offered in colleges and universities.

I believe that taking a foreign language course in college should not be mandatory.

I believe that not all children who are 5 years old should be stuck in kindergarten simply b/c of their date of birth if they can easily do 1st grade work.

That's all for now. :p

Dionysus 11-14-2002 06:23 PM

Just because I'm American it doesn't mean I should stick up for them when they do wrong.

Just because I'm a woman I shouldn't have to stick up for them when they do wrong.

Just because I'm black I should't have to stick up for them when they do wrong.

Just because I'm greek I shouldn't have to stick up for them when they do wrong.

Just because someone in my family does something wrong I shouldn't have to stick up for them.

Just because I believe that, it doesn't mean I'm unpatriotic, a woman-hater, a sell out, anti-greek, or disloyal. If anything, I should be harder on any group that represents me.

Dionysus 11-14-2002 07:35 PM

Whoever downloads music from the internet is going straight to hell. http://plaudersmilies.de/devil/firedevil.gif

*heading straight to kazaa* :D

CrimsonTide4 11-15-2002 06:54 AM

:mad: POP UP ads :mad: are a tool of the INTERNET DEVIL!!!:mad: :mad:

dsmmi12 11-15-2002 04:32 PM

OK here goes.....And I know I am going to cause some controversy...But hey that is the titel of the thread....

1. I believe that women who make the conscious decision to become pregnant and raise a child on thier own are selfish and do not realize the overall consequence of this (selfish) act to fulfill her need to FEEL loved by someone else (ie. a child)

2. I believe that many of our brothers in Black Greek fraternities perpetuate and condone sexual disfunctional (and often criminal) behavior YET would kill a man who even thought to "run a train" on his daughter. (YEP I SAID IT):eek:

3. I believe that parts of integration were a mistake. :eek: We integrated the wrongs things. Instead of bussing the children to the white institutions we should have bussed the teachers, the books and resources into our OWN schools etc.

4. I believe that homosexuality is a choice and not hereditary. :eek:

5. I believe Gay activists using the song "We shall overcome" and other Civil Rights remniscant slogans/songs is insulting. (and trust me I am not a homophobic...I just dont feel it is the same struggle)

6. I believe that the African American race more mentally enslaved now than we were as slaves.

"and thats all I got to say bout that there!"

librasoul22 11-15-2002 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dsmmi12
3. I believe that parts of integration were a mistake. :eek: We integrated the wrongs things. Instead of bussing the children to the white institutions we should have bussed the teachers, the books and resources into our OWN schools etc.

6. I believe that the African American race more mentally enslaved now than we were as slaves.

SPEAK ON IT, SPEAK ON IT, SPEAK ON IT!!!

KnowledgeEternal 11-16-2002 01:29 PM

I think that the American empire will fall within my lifetime(or at the latest within my childs lifetime).

I think that the American Empire is suffering from many of the things that brought down previous super powers(ie. Rome, Britain, etc.).

Perseverance 11-19-2002 07:10 PM

Re: I have some educational issues
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FeeFee


I believe that not all children who are 5 years old should be stuck in kindergarten simply b/c of their date of birth if they can easily do 1st grade work.


That's so True! I'm going through this right now with my son.

My rad views:
The world is in the turmoil that it's in because no one wants to acknowledge God and give Him all of the glory, honor, and praise.

I truly feel sorry and pray for the souls of those who don't believe in God or Heaven and Hell.


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