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Sister Havana 08-23-2023 12:11 AM

Sigma Pi will be returning to Indiana University this fall.

mlanderson 08-23-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KDKells (Post 2498369)
I was really curious about what was going on, since KD is using the Tri Sigma house right now and that they were very quiet during recruitment.

It looks like the chapter just has become unviable. They are showing 40 members. Phasing them out in respect of the current members so they can become alumnae. https://engage.missouri.edu/sigmasigmasigma/home/

Low D Flat 08-23-2023 10:56 AM

Is KD renovating their house or moving to the Tri-Sigma house permanently?

LaneSig 08-23-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Low D Flat (Post 2498406)
Is KD renovating their house or moving to the Tri-Sigma house permanently?

Kappa Delta is renting the house while their own is being renovated.

DEVODUDE 08-23-2023 12:53 PM

Zeta Beta Tau (ZBT) will be re-colonizing at Florida State University for Fall '23....https://www.instagram.com/fsuzbt/


ZBT: Forging Leaders, Bettering the World.

shadokat 08-23-2023 01:50 PM

I wouldn't count on much in the way of expansion unless it's at big schools. Numbers are down at most schools this year.

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Originally Posted by ihearttrisigma (Post 2498364)
Yikes, first UNLV now Mizzou. I feel like we never hear about these (as an alumna of the organization) and I wonder what is going on. I hope we see some expansion at some point and slow down these closures. :(


strangisj 08-24-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ihearttrisigma (Post 2498364)
Yikes, first UNLV now Mizzou. I feel like we never hear about these (as an alumna of the organization) and I wonder what is going on. I hope we see some expansion at some point and slow down these closures. :(


NHQ sent out an email about both closures in the last week. I'm not sure who their data base is, but I'm an alumnae dues paying member, so maybe that's how they communicate it? Not sure. Sad either way! :(

ihearttrisigma 08-24-2023 02:03 PM

This is good to know! I could have sworn I was up to date on my dues but perhaps not and that is the reason? I get all the other emails they send out. I sent them an email to see if they can clarify.

Thank you!



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Originally Posted by strangisj (Post 2498456)
NHQ sent out an email about both closures in the last week. I'm not sure who their data base is, but I'm an alumnae dues paying member, so maybe that's how they communicate it? Not sure. Sad either way! :(


ihearttrisigma 08-24-2023 02:09 PM

Honestly, I think you're right! I wonder what the future landscape looks like for many groups as schools start to close or consolidate. Perhaps there will be a period, similar to when some AES groups merged with NPC groups. Might we see two NPC organizations who do not overlap a majority of campuses who might merge in some way if colleges begin to close or certain groups begin to close a large number of chapters? :confused:

(Thursday afternoon thoughts as I sit in a meeting)


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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2498427)
I wouldn't count on much in the way of expansion unless it's at big schools. Numbers are down at most schools this year.


Cookiez17 08-28-2023 05:29 PM

Zeta Phi Beta will be returning to the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss)

https://www.instagram.com/olemiss_zetas/

33girl 08-28-2023 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ihearttrisigma (Post 2498459)
Honestly, I think you're right! I wonder what the future landscape looks like for many groups as schools start to close or consolidate. Perhaps there will be a period, similar to when some AES groups merged with NPC groups. Might we see two NPC organizations who do not overlap a majority of campuses who might merge in some way if colleges begin to close or certain groups begin to close a large number of chapters? :confused:

(Thursday afternoon thoughts as I sit in a meeting)

I know as far as the state school mergers in PA are concerned, that would be pointless, because most of the schools have the same chapters. The groups that aren’t there, aren’t there because they don’t “do” those type of schools, and with the upcoming baby bust on top of everything else I don’t know why they would want to start now.

Personally I think GLOs will leave NPC and operate as independent organizations before they merge. That’s just my take though. It might take an amount of cojones which I am not certain any of these groups possess.

shadokat 08-29-2023 09:45 AM

With all the mergers in PA, it seems that it's really just a management structure and not a true merger. Greek Life remains the same on the campuses, and if there is overlap, the chapters don't merge. When St. Joe's acquired University of the Sciences, the sororities at UotS still operate as they did before. I heard they may try to integrate them into the St. Joe's system, but who knows.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2498553)
I know as far as the state school mergers in PA are concerned, that would be pointless, because most of the schools have the same chapters. The groups that aren’t there, aren’t there because they don’t “do” those type of schools, and with the upcoming baby bust on top of everything else I don’t know why they would want to start now.

Personally I think GLOs will leave NPC and operate as independent organizations before they merge. That’s just my take though. It might take an amount of cojones which I am not certain any of these groups possess.


shadokat 08-29-2023 09:54 AM

Sigma Delta Tau is closing their chapter at Purdue due to low membership numbers.

shadokat 08-29-2023 04:50 PM

Phi Mu is closing their chapter at Georgia Southern, Armstrong campus.

LaneSig 08-30-2023 09:51 AM

Sigma Kappa at the University of North Carolina-Charlotte has closed due to low membership numbers.


Quite frankly, I think we are going to see a trend this year and next year of many closings due to low membership numbers for both women's and men's organizations.


In other news, Alpha Gamma Rho at Clemson University(SC) has been closed due to RMF.

shadokat 08-30-2023 12:57 PM

Completely agree. This is going to become the trend I think where nationals are going to start cutting their losses on chapters. It's sad, but they have to be smart with where their resources go.

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2498615)
Sigma Kappa at the University of North Carolina-Charlotte has closed due to low membership numbers.


Quite frankly, I think we are going to see a trend this year and next year of many closings due to low membership numbers for both women's and men's organizations.


In other news, Alpha Gamma Rho at Clemson University(SC) has been closed due to RMF.


Cookiez17 08-30-2023 01:17 PM

Someone brought this up in the NPC #'s thread, but the bigger chapters might be the ones to survive all of this. Because of the sheer sizes of the chapters (for example an Ole Miss PC of 200 women.) vs a small university that has a pledge class of 10 women could affect the greek landscape in the future.

Cheerio 08-30-2023 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookiez17 (Post 2498620)
Someone brought this up in the NPC #'s thread, but the bigger chapters might be the ones to survive all of this. Because of the sheer sizes of the chhapters (for example an Ole Miss PC of 200 women.) vs a small university that has a pledge class of 10 women could affect the greek landscape in the future.

I will grant it is estimated more than a few smaller universities will merge/close during the next decade, which will result in the continued loss of (mainly smaller) sorority chapters.

But wouldn't a prudent NPC sorority still want their more viable smaller chapters to thrive? They might best remember there are plenty of alumnae from these small chapters, too. Each type of chapter ought to be allowed. Variety in chapter membership numbers exists because variety in the size and type of campuses allowing Greek Groups exists.

It may be that International Sorority dues, chapter fees and Chapter Exec Board requirements (IE number of chapter officers & responsibilities required from same) could be manipulated into several size categories for seperate use by both large and small chapters.

If housing finances for a smaller chapter became an issue they may be encouraged to (temporarily) change the scope of, or discontinue, their housing.

Which NPC group currently has chapters strictly on campuses with a chapter total of 100 or more, and/or quota of 35 or more? And how would an NPC group even want that to be The Standard for each of their chapters?

carnation 08-30-2023 05:03 PM

We've talked a lot here about how many NPCs have deservedly sustained major financial losses due to their getting involved in politics, making major controversial decisions, and so forth. Something's got to give and it may be that they decide to close several chapters.

shadokat 08-31-2023 08:06 PM

The truth is that NPC has lived high on the hog for the last decade or so, opening new chapters and building new facilities, etc. Those good times are gone, and each organization, no matter how large, will have to decide how to fiscally manage this new stage. Membership is cyclical, and we are entering another low point.

I think many of these closures may not have happened five years ago, as the groups would continue to support the struggling chapters in hopes of a turnaround because money wasn't as tight. Now, they're just not financially able to do it.

If you look at the example of SDT closing Purdue, that chapter had been WAY below any semblance of campus average for years. This past spring, they had 14 members where the average sorority has chapter has 124 members. The chapter had struggled for at least 5 years to get close to average chapter size and wasn't successful. When it gets to that point, you have to decide when to cut your losses and move on.

@Cheerio, I do think that sororities want their smaller chapters to thrive. Every NPC organization has chapters of varying sizes. If your chapter remains competitive and viable on a campus, there would be no reason to close it. I don't think that is what is leading to more closures. It's the situations that have been left to fester for years in hopes of a miracle.

Pinkmagnolia921 08-31-2023 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2498626)
We've talked a lot here about how many NPCs have deservedly sustained major financial losses due to their getting involved in politics, making major controversial decisions, and so forth. Something's got to give and it may be that they decide to close several chapters.


Which NPCs have become involved in politics?

Cookiez17 08-31-2023 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkmagnolia921 (Post 2498660)
Which NPCs have become involved in politics?

Well during 2020 when... things were going on, organizations were trying to put statements out regarding certain issues, which caused members to become angry if the statement wasn't saying exactly what they wanted or if they disagreed with it. It also came into play when Roe v. Wade was overturned. It got very messy.

*winter* 09-01-2023 12:01 AM

I would think, at the branch campuses, cost would be a factor for a lot of students. The cost of attendance keeps going up- along with, well, the cost of everything else in 2023. It’s probably just not feasible for many students to afford one more expense- even if it’s something they’d really like to do.

Cookiez17 09-01-2023 12:26 AM

I wills say though, as smaller campuses close and people transfer to new colleges, there could be a bump in small/medium sized campus enrollment if the student a) wants a similar sized campus and b) can afford it or will get a similar price of their closed institution. So maybe the "small" chapters will survive in that sense.

ASTalumna06 09-01-2023 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2498651)
The truth is that NPC has lived high on the hog for the last decade or so, opening new chapters and building new facilities, etc. Those good times are gone, and each organization, no matter how large, will have to decide how to fiscally manage this new stage. Membership is cyclical, and we are entering another low point.
......
If your chapter remains competitive and viable on a campus, there would be no reason to close it. I don't think that is what is leading to more closures. It's the situations that have been left to fester for years in hopes of a miracle.

It's exactly this. Organizations are having to make tough decisions, largely because of the fallout of the pandemic, the anti-Greek movement, the political climate, and inflation over the last few years. We've all been losing members and money, and our orgs are giving up on struggling chapters due to both internal and external circumstances. When the org struggles as a whole, it's easiest to cut the weakest link.

I've seen some major moves and initiatives being implemented by NPCs in particular over the last couple months. I know my own org is pushing a major campaign to increase collegiate member numbers and retention.

Others are pushing heavily for alumnae initiates. I believe I read recently (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) that Kappa Delta has a goal to add a couple thousand more alumnae initiates before their next convention, and Alpha Phi posted this on their Facebook page today:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00064617766814

Meanwhile, other orgs are selling or moving their national headquarters. We've had posts about that recently here on GC, and Tri Sigma just announced this today:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00064377296115

There are major changes coming.

33girl 09-01-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2498651)

If you look at the example of SDT closing Purdue, that chapter had been WAY below any semblance of campus average for years. This past spring, they had 14 members where the average sorority has chapter has 124 members. The chapter had struggled for at least 5 years to get close to average chapter size and wasn't successful. When it gets to that point, you have to decide when to cut your losses and move on.

For years (and we’ve talked about it on here, this is not me pulling this out of my nether region) SDT was ok with having this sort of setup on quite a few campuses because they were providing their members with a Jewish centered sorority experience. The women knew they weren’t joining a chapter that would “compete” with the larger groups. Why they’ve decided this model is no longer feasible I do not know.

33girl 09-01-2023 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by *winter* (Post 2498673)
I would think, at the branch campuses, cost would be a factor for a lot of students. The cost of attendance keeps going up- along with, well, the cost of everything else in 2023. It’s probably just not feasible for many students to afford one more expense- even if it’s something they’d really like to do.

Yep. Unless you’re going to have access to awesome housing and a meal plan it is very hard to justify the cost and we know that is not the case at branch campi.

Cookiez17 09-01-2023 04:53 PM

Zeta Phi Beta will be colonizing at Sacred Heart University. SHU had actually opened for D9 expansion, but it appears that a fraternity hasn't been selected to join yet.

On another note, the greek system will survive and adapt. Many of the organizations have been around for over 100 years and have survived many struggles, including the 60's, where membership dropped off before rebounding again in the 80's.

shadokat 09-02-2023 12:25 AM

I don't disagree with you here. There is smaller, and then there is not viable anymore. I'm guessing 14 women wasn't enough to be viable.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2498684)
For years (and we’ve talked about it on here, this is not me pulling this out of my nether region) SDT was ok with having this sort of setup on quite a few campuses because they were providing their members with a Jewish centered sorority experience. The women knew they weren’t joining a chapter that would “compete” with the larger groups. Why they’ve decided this model is no longer feasible I do not know.


Iota_JWH 09-05-2023 01:53 PM

I believe that Phi Mu has closed at University of Colorado, they are not listed on any pages of the UCB Panhel website, not in the list for recruitment.

PKT4LIFE 09-06-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Iota_JWH (Post 2498814)
I believe that Phi Mu has closed at University of Colorado, they are not listed on any pages of the UCB Panhel website, not in the list for recruitment.

How unfortunate. Phi Mu also colonized at Colorado State the same year Colorado was colonized. Per the greek grades report, membership is also suffering at Colorado State.

Cheerio 09-06-2023 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PKT4LIFE (Post 2498841)
How unfortunate. Phi Mu also colonized at Colorado State the same year Colorado was colonized. Per the greek grades report, membership is also suffering at Colorado State.

Thanks for mentioning the CSU greek grades reports. From reading them, I also notice Tri Delta @CSU has recently closed.

JayhawkAOII 09-07-2023 01:33 PM

It appears that Alpha Xi Delta at Marian University in Wisconsin has closed. It is no longer listed on Alpha Xi's website and the last activity on Facebook is from 2022.

PKT4LIFE 09-07-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JayhawkAOII (Post 2498856)
It appears that Alpha Xi Delta at Marian University in Wisconsin has closed. It is no longer listed on Alpha Xi's website and the last activity on Facebook is from 2022.

And..

Phi Sigma Sigma at IU-Kokomo is not listed on their "Chapter Locator" page nor on the IU-Kokomo student organization list.

Our chapter at Kokomo closed in 2021. It was an awful decision to colonize there for many reasons.

mlanderson 09-08-2023 12:09 PM

Delta Phi Epsilon colonizing at Ursinus College.

Cookiez17 09-08-2023 06:49 PM

Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi will be colonizing at Penn State.

https://www.instagram.com/saepi.happyvalley/

PKT4LIFE 09-08-2023 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mlanderson (Post 2498902)
Delta Phi Epsilon colonizing at Ursinus College.

They have a few locals there, is one affiliating with DPhiE?

I found this interesting, here's the history of greek life at Ursinus College. Many locals formed and closed over time, a few are still active.

https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/timel...m=2&height=650

ihearttrisigma 09-10-2023 07:19 PM

While I see the job posting for a Pre-Charter Consultant for DPhiE at Ursinus, I'd like to see the official notification or where the OP found this. I am an active alumni, and a Greek alumna from UC, and I've spoken with a few folks (administration and current students) and this has not been discussed or made widely known. Knowing how much work went into bringing the current National Organizations to campus, there's no way they are going to charter a new organization that no one knows about.

I would be very hard pressed to see a new organization on this campus with the numbers of some of the organizations. If anything, I would think one of the former locals would have a better chance of coming back, or a group of women could effectively "take over" one of the current locals. The existing locals are between 80-105 years old and very strong.

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Originally Posted by PKT4LIFE (Post 2498915)
They have a few locals there, is one affiliating with DPhiE?

I found this interesting, here's the history of greek life at Ursinus College. Many locals formed and closed over time, a few are still active.

https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/timel...m=2&height=650


fmanning 09-11-2023 04:12 PM

The Mu Omicron chapter of the Phi Mu Delta national fraternity at Frostburg State University has been awarded the university chapter excellence award.

fmanning 09-11-2023 04:16 PM

The University of Vermont announces that the Nu Gamma chapter of the Phi Mu Delta national fraternity has received 60 university awards since 2019.


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