ROTFL!!! LOL!

More info on BV Buzz...

http://blackvoices.aol.com/black_ent...24135609990001

Interesting...

Although some of her ministry (and motives) may be questionable, we can not argue a few facts:

1) She has an anointing - look at how old 'No More Sheets' is and many people I know still talk about that sermon like it just took place. Now, she may have abused the anointing but I think things will change in her life now.

2) When one's life is at the point of great transformation, demonic attack takes place - often in crazy and unusual ways. My pastor always says 'the higher the level, the greater the devil.' If we look back at our lives, right before God blessed us with something wonderful, there was a crazy storm that just took place.

3) Christian marriages are magnets for attack, particularly when the couple is also clergy. Paula White and her husband are divorcing now as well.

4) I think she recognizes that God has blessed her tremendously and is calling her to a higher place. I just saw a portion of her recent women's conference on the Word Network. She talked about some of the issues in her marriage and spoke prophetically about how the relationship would probably get worse because of what God was doing in her life.

5) Women have to be careful who they select as mates. Some men can be very jealous and often this trait doesn't come out until after the woman begins to achieve great success.

6) God will not bless mess. Yes, there have been rumors of how the relationship came to be and I remember my Grandmom always saying that the Lord will never bless one woman with another woman's husband.

You said something right there! Nuff said. :cool:

Surprisingly, Donnie McClurkin had something similar to say about the situation. He said that some people are 'pimping' the people of God right now. There are lots of people who are not truly called or anointed but have gotten titles and positions. He said that the people within the church need to speak up and be more vocal about who is leading them and what is going on in their lives. If you know that your pastor beats his wife, how can he tell you anything about what to do in your life and your family? That's not saying that he can't pray for forgiveness and repent, but too many people are sitting in churches not saying anything about the wrong that's going on within them.

Jawn Murray confirmed this morning that The Raven Fund does not exist and Weeks did not ask for any money.

Amen @ #5.
Say whaaaaaaaaat @ #6 unless this is a generality and not specific to Juanita Bynum.

:cool:

Amen! Some people need to get their spiritual discernment turned on and stop just accepting the pastor as truly God's chosen disciple. Don't place yourself under the spiritual authority of just anybody.

:eek: I am not in the loop on the rumors, did Juanita Bynum steal someone's husband?!?:confused: Make it plain for me...

What you all are saying is so true and timely.

My father is a pastor of a fairly large church here in Minnesota. And as a preacher's kid (and for the record, I'm not bad - ask Ladygreek! :p) and a member of the first family, people expect to us live our lives without spot or blemish. I try to make it very clear to them that we're human just like the next person. We have to give an account to God just like the next person so stop putting us on a pedestal. It's so easy for members to do that. And it's also easy for preachers/leaders/etc. to get the big head and start getting bold in their wrong doings because they were put on this pedestal. I guess I wanted to speak to this because I know that this incident is clearly wrong, but we all have our weaknesses and unfortunately, their issues were exposed.

On another note, I didn't know anything about Sis. Bynum taking somebody else's man! Now that ain't right.

You're right. We do place pastors and their families on pedestals. I know some folks trip when they hear that their pastors listen to R&B and/rap music or go to the movies.

I've learned as I became an adult that pastors, like teachers, are people too. I know as a teacher my kids used to trip when they saw me in the grocery store :confused: or that I liked the same songs, movies, etc. that they liked.

Some pastors, bishops, etc. place themselves on pedestals and want you to make them into a golden image. You know?

All fall short of God's glory, including the pastors and his children. :p

ESPECIALLY the children;)

Aight RBL!! :)

As a fellow PK, I can definitely co-sign on this. When I became able to make my own decisions as far as a place of worship, I completely digressed from the Full Gospel Baptist Fellowship (Bishop Paul Morton, Presiding Prelate) where my father is a minister in. It's just all too much to bear, especially when you know for yourself what goes on behind closed doors and from out of the pulpit.

As far as JB "stealing" someone's husband, the issue arises that she gave a prophecy to Weeks and his then wife concerning the restoration of their marriage. Shortly thereafter, Weeks & Bynum were in the courting stages of their relationship.

I'm pretty convinced at this point that they have Apostle licenses on sale at Wal-Mart for 49.95. Apostle is the new Bishop I suppose. The funny thing is, an Apostle is someone who goes about and establishes churches under one fellowship IE: BISHOP Paul Morton, BISHOP Eddie L. Long. I emphasize Bishop because even though both of them act under the capacity of Apostles, they are yet still under the title of Bishop. I've come to find that those who take on this Apostle title are usually pastors of storefront churches whose membership peaks at about 50 on a good Sunday. Despise not small beginnings, true enough, but also be a steward over the few things first and not jump out of your lane into someone else's.

Not Paula White!!

:eek: @ the first bolded
LOL @ the 2nd
SAY THAT!!!!! @ the 3rd

I never heard of Paula White until last week when my mother sent me this article http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGBHZDANO5F.html
which lead me to this article http://www.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBX8J8442F.html
and then Friday I found out about their divorce http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGBA6S84Q5F.html

Good @ The Raven rumor and Weeks' request. :rolleyes:


Re: Bishops and such... :rolleyes: @ Paul Morton. :rolleyes: My co-worker's son "oversees" one of his new churches in BR. I guess he'll be coined a Apostle, soon. She's kind of :mad: b/c I won't visit the church when I go home. Ummm, I don't visit my mother's church that often. I always make my way to my church on a Sunday AM. :D

Hmm this Bishop Morton stuff sounds pretty juicy. I like the song that they play on the radio by him but I don't know much about him. Until the song, I never knew that he was in New Orleans, the colon cancer, his grandchild dying but God gave him double for his trouble. **doing my Aunt Esther shout**

Please... other stuff, other stuff, and other stuff. :rolleyes: It is juicy.
:p

:eek: Well, thanks for making it plain...

I like the Bishop. He comes to my church every year to do Revival :D

I haven't been to his church here in Atlanta tho.

LOL @ the shoutin

And yes, trust me I know the conversations and the mess that goes on behind the scenes with Bishop Morton. His brother pastors here in Atlanta as well. I've been present for one too many conversations where plots of an ungodly nature have been made for different church services/conferences/events. You'd be amazed at what is discussed in the "inner circle".

You ain't never lied.

hmph!!!! see.... :rolleyes:
You tryina get me started. :p ;)
All I'mma say is Debra is GOOD! I guess that's why she's the co-pastor. She gets a cut too. :smirk:

I want to know. :o:p

I get what you all are saying though. I think a lot of pastors are focusing more on business than ministry which is why we have churches where unless you are big bank offering giver, you can't get married by the pastor let alone have the pastor give your eulogy or come see you when you're sick even if your great grandfather built the church that passa preaches in these days.:(

That too.

Unfortunately churches have become a money making business vs. a soul saving ministry. I question if some of these revs/bishops/apostles were really CALLED by God because there's a difference in God calling you and you calling yourself!

Why are there thousands of mega churches with a memberships between 5-30,000 members, but the world is getting worse and the members [meaning the Christians] are becoming more confused?

Why are there four to five Christian channels on television, but the world is getting worse?

Something clearly isn't right.

Maybe God just called them to GO to church, not PASTOR the church.
Maybe God's call to serve was more along the lines of the USHER BOARD not the pulpit.

And some of them just want a wider population to choose from to get their freaky sneaky on.

Sad but true! You preachin'! :)

Nice location CT4. ;) How come I just noticed it? lol

I changed it after ShamikaT -- my favorite fictional GCer -- last posted.;)

SAY THAT!

Valid questions and concerns. Things that make you go hmmmmm!

Say THAT!

What about the "in the world not of it" part? This is a MESS. Folks have forgotten that this whole "church business" isn't supposed to be about them, but the people they serve.

Sad I tell ya, just sad.

I didn't realize you added to your post until just now.

Because some of these mega churches are doing it for the clout, not the Christ.

If you are really about Jesus, you'll be tested like everyone is, but God would always get the glory for helping you overcome and your ministry would be evidentiary support of that. It seems to me.

How do you all feel about the phrase "EVERYTHING is a blessing"?

If you rob a bank and from that robbery, you receive thousands of dollars, is that a blessing?

I happen to live by the principal that if you get things in the wrong way, what was once meant to bless you will end up cursing you.

As far as everything being a blessing, and based upon the example given, God orchestrates everything true enough but He has also given us free will. I don't think God just spoke into somebody's spirit to go and rob a bank. We are commanded to obey the laws of the land and uhh I don't think they making robbery legal these days lol.

I agree with your entire post.

I too, agree...this is like those folks that pray to win the lottery.:rolleyes:

^^^^Exactly. Its just so amazing to me that you would have rich individuals (who I won't name---but you know who I'm talking about) who can violate their probation, get stopped for DUI on numerous occassions, drive on suspended liscenses, and get caught with drug paraphernalia only to spend a few days in jail and/or go to rehab and that's it. Yet, people want to take someone's livelihood away and possibly put him behind bars for years over fighting pitbulls:confused:??? Not to say that this gentleman was not wrong but come on now...


And yes, RBL, you sure do have to know the word FOR YOURSELF...very well said my friend. We ALL fall short of the glory, and nobody is God BUT God. As Dr. Phil would say, an indicator of future behavior is past behavior. As many of you have stated, I do feel that this particular issue has happened before within their marriage. It is a really unfortunate situation, and in addition to that they also have to deal with the media "up in they business." They are both in my prayers....

well said.

The Devil Made Him Do It!
 

According to some of my folks in Atlanta, Weeks is saying that the Devil made him do it!

Shoot! When will he take responsibility for being abusive?!

Oh, come ON. :rolleyes:

It amazes me that some of these people who claim to be "of the cloth" are QUICK to say "the Devil made me do it" when they choose to do something that they know is wrong. I have no sympathy for him.