I'm willing to consider that DigitalAngel was just venting, but before I would call anyone "wrong, hypocritical and rude," I'd go back and read that original post. Whether she meant what she said or not, it was pretty over the line -- or is talking about "smothering" your father a normal thing to put down in print? It appears that has been edited out -- which is good, I think.

Then I'd think twice about the definition of the word hypocritical. Shine and Libra would have been hypocritical if they had "sugar coated" their responses. They gave their honest reaction to the post -- which was much like my own. That is not hypocracy, it's honesty. A little blunt perhaps, but certainly not hypocritical.

As for rude, think about what you just wrote and then think about "Judge ye not lest ye be judged."

DigitalAngel is probably a very nice young lady, but I don't think anyone missed the point. The point was how her rant "sounded" to the rest of us. We don't know if she is "spoiled" or not -- but the post certainly gave that impression. Or at least it did to me.

Maybe what should be learned here is to seriously consider what you type, and how others may react to it before clicking that "submit reply" button.

Don't put words into my mouth, honey.

My lack of response was due to the fact that I had to go to class, and then out to dinner with some friends.

You know, having a LIFE. I can' t be on the internet 24-7.

All I say is this: When I itemized who pays for what in my life, I left out a LOT of things. My mom only pays my rent, which is dorm rent, and cheap. I appreciate every cent of that money, but I do have my own expenses. I pay for books, food, health insurance, car insurance, doctor care, perscriptions, phone bill, cell phone bill, credit card bills, internet access, clothing...

The list goes on.

I am NOT a hypocrite. I stand by what I said. If it weren't for my mother's help, I would never survive on my own and be able to stay in school. So I appreciate whatever she does for me, and don't expect anything from her. I doubt DA could survive if her dad didn't help her out, so she should stop bitching. It could be a lot worse.

I think the main thing that made me angry about DA's post was that she said she wanted to "smother her dad in his sleep." I have NEVER, EVER in my life said anything even remotely like that about anyone, even as a joke.

Yes, in high school I would vent to my friends that my dad was a jerk and my mom was a bitch when I wouldn't get my way. Since then, I have grown, matured, and learned that talking my problems out with my family is better than venting on a message board.

Her father sounds no more unreasonable than my parents, or any other parents I know. He wants the best for his kid, and wants her to learn how to live in the real world.

Pardon me if it offends me when a person wishes death on a father that loves and cares for them, when I would give anything to bring my father back to life.

Where do you guys get all of this money?
I have a job too, it is impossible for me to pay what some of you are paying for.

Alright, simma.

I don't want this to turn into another closed thread. But shine I will say that I have posted only on this thread recently and I have checked it so often today since it was an issue that I was fairly passionate about.

Shine and Delt ALum, I will retract my statement that you were wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and on a random internet site, anyone is more than free to post their thoughts.

Delt Alum, you can say I was rude in my post, but it is only in response to the constant negativity and constant "rudeness" of related in posts. I admit I let my frustration get the better of me in that snide commment. In fact that may be construed as hypocracy. Oh, and I read the first post and it seemed like she was a normal frustrated 19 year old dealing with the cliche "growing pains." You of all people, with children, I would expect to understand that. I don't condone her "death wish,"but she has retracted it and admitted that it was typed in anger and was wrong.

I said Shine initially came across as hypocritical because she is attending school and is not enduring the awkward position that DA is in, even though she said she "was in a similar situation." She took an arrogant tone by belittling DA implying that she was enduring so much more than she financially. That DA should be GRATEFUL for all that she is given, when Shine posted that she paid for "books and food." She had no tolerance for people who don't venture out on their own, yet posted she was only paying for "books and food." As you all have posted time and time again, I can only respond to what you post!:rolleyes:

Any way, this isn't my fight. You guys are really not as understanding and tolerant as I thought you all were.

I must come to terms with the fact that some people are just in things for arguments sake. You guys still show no compassion.

And shine, since DA edited out the part about wishing her father dead, it's obvious it was a simple product of anger and frustration. Adrenaline was pumping and she regretted it. I would think you would start taking a more positive approach. But you seem not to have the positive attitude I would hope.

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To all of the people I regretfully got involved in my simple need to vent:

librasoul22 - whether you come off as harsh or not is a matter of opinion, my opinion being that i would've gone about saying some things differently... BUT thanks for saying what you did

Cream - yay for tact!! Thank you for that, and your message came through loud and clear.

APhi - good to see I'm not the only one in this type of situation, contrary to what some people are trying to insinuate.

DeltAlum - Being a dad is more than I could ever imagine, so I commend you. I'm sure your children have turned out beautifully!

33girl - Good advice, I didn't think about having my old advisor call him, maybe I'll try that.

Shark_in_Skirt - You seem like a very compassionate person .. Good for you, there needs to be more of that going around. And good luck with whichever GLO you choose, they'll love you!!

Shine - For the last time, I'm sorry that I may have offended you. And again, I'm truly sorry about your dad... Believe it or not, I do have a heart, not just a mouth...

Phimugirlie01 - Thanks for the words of encouragement!

Pbpck - LOL Thanks for all the posts I guess :) You're very good at standing your ground!

AchtungBaby80 - Same goes for you.

justamom - I can't tell you how many times I've tried to talk to my dad on neutral ground with understanding and no yelling, and I can only try for so long.. But I'm going to try again.

Colleenie - Thanks for being a sister....I'll PM you.

Dionysus - You morally apprehensible devil, you.. :p Thanks for saying that, it definately made me laugh - - I had almost forgotten about it!

To anyone arguing amongst themselves, this is a stupid reason to do it, on account of me or anything I said or did. This thread was started so I could vent, nothing more, nothing less. I am truly sorry that it digressed to name calling, arguing, and just rudeness all around (I'm not saying everybody).

In closing the last post I will be posting on this thread, I'd like to say... No matter what your relationship with your parents, I strongly suggest going out and renting John Q. with Denzel Washington (oh baby!!). That movie moved me in a way that I wasn't ready for and I bawled almost the whole time. For those of you that have seen it, you'll understand what I'm talking about when I say that I know my dad would do for me what John Q. was willing to do for Michael. I always knew that in my heart and never once doubt it, but it made me cry even harder to see all this petty stuff screwing up our relationship. You never know when someone could be gone - - a parent, a friend, a fellow greek, your favorite pet ... nobody knows, for today may not always be followed by tomorrow. Another movie (which I watched last night) that moved me to tears for the duration was I Am Sam. I almost had to turn it off. It's a wonderful film and I reccommend it to anyone and everyone. Again, it's about a father and his child...That's all I'm going to say though, because I'm starting to tear up at the thought of the movie.

Hope to see you guys on different threads, less any animosity.

Peace.
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Hootie-If there wa a little applause icon, would use it now.

I too hope DA will read what you have so honestly and with empathy taken the time to share.

Good post-Good advice!

pbpck. Number one, while I am on the net frequently, I actually do have an outside life. And while this topic was compelling enough for me to respond, it was not compelling enough to put my life on hold to monitor the responses and post back every time someone said something contrary to me.

I did not post simply to be argumentative, I posted my honest opinion. If you think it is insensitive, oh well. I PM'ed DA and we are over it. Why aren't you?

P.S. DeltAlum, I think you have had very valid points throughout this thread. Althought we have disagreed elsewhere, I am in total agreement with you about this one.

P.P.S. Dionysus, I had a full time job as an assistant manager of my local Sam Goody. It paid pretty well and I loved it! That's how I paid my way through being 19.

Wow, how did you get the job of assistant manager at age 19?

I had been working there since 17, so I worked my way up.

DigitalAngel, despite what others have posted on this thread, I don't believe you come across as spoiled... just frustrated with the situation. I feel your pain; my dad is no prize either.

Please, please, sit down with your dad and talk it out. If your neck of the woods is anything like mine, you need a car to go anywhere - there is no public transportation within walking distance. He wants you to get a job and move out? Fine, he has to let you keep your car, at least until you find a job and save up enough for a down payment on your own car (I assume he actually owns this car and is loaning it to you). As for the cell phone, you might want to consider getting one with prepaid minutes.

If you're going to live with your dad, you have to follow his rules - IF they're reasonable - which it doesn't sound like they are.

Take care.