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You aren't kidding about UGa rush. Some of the very sharpest kids from my daughter's high school just rushed at UGA last fall--they had looks, perfect grades, fabulous activities, everything a sorority could want, and yet I got an e-mail from one that said if she had it to do again she wouldn't; it was a mob scene and a lot of the sororities there had obviously chosen who they wanted before rush even started. These 2 girls ended up pledging what you'd consider "medium" sororities and boy, did some sororities lose a couple of fabulous girls when they cut these 2.
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I might sound stupid for asking this question but I'm a South Florida girl (meaning that I'm pretty much a yankee http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif ). What is Junior League? Is it like a sorority for women after they graduate college?
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It's my observations that many greek women (men, too)majoring in engineering are ultimately less involved in their sororities (fraternities) after their first year and half of involvement. And it's not because the house schedule is too much to keep up with - it's more that sisters (brothers) lack understanding about just how time-consuming an engineering undergraduate degree can be. C'mon - is that what fraternal bonds are supposed to be about?? Of course, I will admit bias, being an engineering major myself. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif ------------------ @-->--- Pure as Silver, and True Blue! Alpha Sigma Kappa - Women in Technical Studies |
Well, my boyfriend is an EE major, so I have no problem with Engineers. I love them http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif.
I know of one girl that is a Tri-Delt and an EE major, and one Theta that is in EE. But most of the sorority girls here are in the Business college, or are in the Arts and Sciences and Education majors that are traditionally easier. They want high GPAs, at any cost, I guess. Even if it means they have all general studies majors. *shrug* |
What I find really cool is that most greek women in the OU College of Engineering have stellar GPAs. Just to shine a light on this year's graduating chemical engineering students, there are 7 greek women (total of 13 women, out of a class of 43), and all have above a 3.0. 6 of the 7 have above a 3.5. All are extremely involved in campus life. All received excellent job offers during the recruiting season.
And just so y'all can be proud of your sisters & sorors http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif, these ladies are members of Alpha Kappa Alpha, Delta Gamma, Delta Sigma Theta, Kappa Alpha Theta...and (saving the best for last)...Alpha Sigma Kappa - Women in Technical Studies! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif ------------------ @-->--- Pure as Silver, and True Blue! Alpha Sigma Kappa - Women in Technical Studies [This message has been edited by equeen (edited March 02, 2001).] |
I just want to say that I get kinda upset when people talk about "easy majors." There are "hard majors" like Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Math, etc. And there are "easy majors" like English, Education, Political Science, etc. I would love to see a Biology major try to hold his own in ONE of my Political Science classes. Or try to teach a 5 year old how to write their name. S/he would crash and burn in three days. I could never make it as a Biologist, but I also couldn't make it as a teacher. People are called to do certain things, that doesn't mean that one thing is better that another or that one is easier that another.
There are people who are too lazy to give any effort to their work, so they do what is easiest for them. If you look at the way young women are treated in math and science courses, you wouldn't be surprised that most young women choose a career in something NOT science or math related. I am planning on going into a male dominated field (Law) and I have been discouraged by my own family, several teachers at my high school, my guidence couselor, and my friends. It is hard to make a decision like this and I can understand how some young ladies would be afraid to go against everything they have been exposed to culturally. So I'm not jumping all over you or anything, but please understand that each major takes talent, effort (to be good at it), and a real calling! Allie http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif |
Well said, Allie.
I was a Creative Writing major and was often dumped on -- people would say "Of Course your G.P.A. is high--you don't have tests" No I didn't have tests, but I did have to compete for entry into every class. Writing samples submitted and if the prof didn't think it was good enough you didn't get into a class you needed for graduation. No major is easy. I could no more be a math major than (I am generalizing) a math major could write a 20 page manuscript to gain access to Adv Fiction Writing. We all choose to do that which we love and, consequently are good at. And we should all be proud of each other and each other's choices. It takes all different kinds of people with all different kinds of talents to make this world run. [This message has been edited by amycat412 (edited March 02, 2001).] |
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It burns me whenever I hear of young women being treated like brainless idiots - especially if they are blessed with physical beauty as well as brains, and just don't happen to society's schema of the female "nerdy-genious." Why can't a woman be beautiful and smart? This is what upsets me the most - that a young lady starts out in a major that she wants to pursue, but then is discouraged from it because of social pressure. I don't recall where I read the stats: there was a survey study done which highlighted the fact that surprisingly, most of this pressure comes from home (parents), and then from one's social group(s). It's heartbreaking: of the many intelligent women that started out in my chemical engineering freshman class, very few stayed with the program. That's the general trend for all engineering programs, and it's true for men as well as women. It seems that women tend to drop out faster and in higher rates, though, because there's usually no system of support. Quote:
http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif Which is why I'm glad I have my Sisters! They are always there whenever the going gets tough...they are always, always understanding. I didn't realize how helpful it would be to have a bond with women who were going through the same experiences I am...of course, not all of them are negative. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif It burns me whenever I hear of young women being treated like brainless idiots - especially if they are blessed with physical beauty as well as brains, and just don't happen to society's schema of the female "nerdy-genious." This is what upsets me the most - that a young lady starts out in a major that she wants to pursue, but then is discouraged from it because of social pressure. I don't recall where I read the stats: there was a survey study done which highlighted the fact that surprisingly, most of this pressure comes from home (parents), and then from one's social group(s). It's heartbreaking: of the many intelligent women that started out in my chemical engineering freshman class, very few stayed with the program. That's the general trend for all engineering programs, and it's true for men as well as women. It seems that women tend to drop out faster and in higher rates, though, because there's usually no system of support. Quote:
I don't think there's any such thing as an easy major. All majors require time, dedication, talent, and intelligence. I would say, though, that there's more flexibility of time for liberal arts majors than for engineering or science majors. And I think that's where it can be an advantage to be a liberal arts major - there's more of an opportunity to do more with your time, rather than be resigned to limiting your extra-curricular experiences. Most of the leaders on my campus are greek - and most of them are in majors that allow them great flexibility of time (usually business). And none of those are majors such as drama, or dance, or other liberal arts majors that require a lot of sustained time dedication. There are only a couple of leaders I can think of who are in time-limiting majors - and usually, their involvement is limited to that one leadership position, besides their affiliation and their major. ------------------ @-->--- Pure as Silver, and True Blue! Alpha Sigma Kappa - Women in Technical Studies [This message has been edited by equeen (edited March 02, 2001).] [This message has been edited by equeen (edited March 02, 2001).] |
Not that I'm disagreeing with ANYTHING you guys are saying about majors. After all, I'm an Arts major in probably the most difficult program in this country and worked my butt off for every grade i got. But, what does this have to do with LSU rush? I'm thinking this is an issue for another thread.
Sorry if I'm being rude http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif Leslie |
You're right...Barb, is it possible move part of this thread to a new thread??
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I do agree that every major takes a certain talent to succede at it. Some things that are hard for some are very easy for others. Also on one campus, Business, for example, may be extremely hard, and easy on another. I speak only for my school when I name majors that are considered easy. And at LSU, the majors that are thought to be easy are things such as Kinesiology, Mass Communication, Education and General Studies. You'll, interestingly enough, find a lot of these majors in the sororities. It was just an observation of mine based on my own campus. |
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My little sister (blood) will go thru this fall at LSU....eeeeek! My mom and her are already freaking out, she does know of a Rush Counselor, its basically the same thing as a Beauty Pageant consultant, they help with clothes, interview, etc...jst no "fanny glue"!
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My little sister (blood) will go thru this fall at LSU....eeeeek! My mom and her are already freaking out, she does know of a Rush Counselor, its basically the same thing as a Beauty Pageant consultant, they help with clothes, interview, etc...just no "fanny glue"!
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Regarding UT rush, my best friend went through her freshman year. Her Mom appointed herself as her rush consultant. It was unbeleivable. After some serious pre-rush shopping, her Mom coordinated every outfit for every day of rush week, right down to her jewelry and what color toenail polish for each outfil. It was unreal. Every ensamble was placed in it's own garment bag. I guess it was a good idea to plan ahead, my friend didn't have to worry about clothes for rush. Her Mom had practically already dressed her. She ended up pledging PiPhi ("no small feat at UT"). I kinda feel sorry for our Yankee neighbors http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif ---- y'all must think Southerners live in a totally different world! And I suppose that's right. How does that Greek saying go?.... "From the outside looking in, you can understand it. From the inside looking out, you can't explain it." Being a part of the Southern Legacy is unlike anything else, all of my fellow Southern Belles will probably agree with me. It's like the South is a Greek system within itself, where pre-rush will almost always be a bigger fiasco than Rush itself. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif And I am proud to be a part of everything the South stands for. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif [This message has been edited by TxTechChiO (edited March 19, 2001).] |
As someone who plans to be a Greek Advisor for a living, I am hoping to work at a school where Recruitment is a MAJOR event, so that I can see it for myself!
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"I kinda feel sorry for our Yankee neighbors ---- y'all must think Southerners live in a totally different world! And I suppose that's right."
Hey TxTechChiO - you southern belles do live in another world but I would love to try it out sometime. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif - it seems the mother/daughter relationships are very close and you are extremely strong and proud women to go through the process. As a "Connecticut Yankee" - I admire you! Thanks for the insight also! Sue [This message has been edited by ISU_XO (edited March 13, 2001).] |
TxTechChiO: What your friend's mom did doesn't sound too far off from what I did when I went through rush. I had a brand new outfit for each day, in a plastic bag. I had shoes to match, a purse to match, I planned out my jewelry and yes, I had matching toenail polish for each outfit. No one pushed me to do this except myself. A lot of good it did me...
My mom wasn't very involved in my rush. She wanted me to see if I liked it and that was it. Her sorority experience was pretty low-key at Loyola, New Orleans. No houses, no crazy formal rush, etc. So she didn't push me when I went through at LSU. On the other hand, I know a girl who's mother forced her to go to pref, and she ended up joining a house that she loves. In a way, I wish I would have been pushed a bit more, but oh well. I'm happy http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif PS: I'm also proud to be a southern girl! |
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I just finished reading the "Southern Belle Primer"...quality stuff!
I would really like to experience Southern Rush...however, I'm already initiated at a school in the North. Do chapters allow sisters from other chapters to help out during Rush? |
I am a total yankee, but I visit a friend's family in Alabama every summer and I must admit, the South is growing on me. I tell friends here stories of stuff that goes on down there and they can't even understand it, and that's just stuff about daily life. You have to experience it to understand though, so I'm guessing it's the same with rush in the South. I'm really starting to miss it, luckily I'll be back in a few weeks!! Best of luck to everyone going through rush!!
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My room mate transfered from LSU to California and when I was going through our Rush, she couldn't help but say that I was lucky to go through CA's rush system. LSU I guess is so cut throat that rushees even try to undermine other rushees in front of the houses. Recs are sooo important, and even from whom matters. The houses get pictures of all the rushees and slap them up on a wide screen and hold up red and green light paddles, then 'comment' on the girls..girls are dropped simply because they didn't like their hair cut or skirt!!! It's crazy, that's just what my roomie from LSU told me, sounds a bit crazy.
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Information | Tips For Participating in Recruitment |
Recruitment Schedule of Events http://appl003.lsu.edu/slas/GreekAffairs2.nsf/$Content/Sorority+Recruitment?OpenDocument In order to join the Greek community, you must participate in sorority recruitment. Recruitment is the process by which potential members choose their sorority and the sororities choose the women who will become their new members. The sorority recruitment experience at LSU lasts a week. There are four rounds. In the first round, each sorority invites all potential members and each woman should attend all events. As recruitment continues through the second, third and fourth rounds of events, the number of women that a sorority can invite to its events decreases and the number of events that a woman can attend also decreases. During these events, both the potential members and the sororities are narrowing down their choices. Ultimately, by the end of the last event, which is called preference, each potential member will be accepting one bid, or invitation to become a new member of a sorority. There are two very important steps to follow in preparing for recruitment. First - Registration: Send in all information to register for recruitment at the University at the earliest possible time to insure that all of your information is in order prior to recruitment. Click here for Sorority Recruitment Registration Form LSU Panhellenic Council requires a copy of your final high school transcript. Please note that this is only the first step in gathering the needed information to go through recruitment. Second - Recommendations Recommendations/references are a formal contact from an alumna to her sorority to LSU, which will give pertinent information about your academics, activities, and character. The responsibility for providing letters of recommendation for potential members rests with the chapters (NPC Guidelines). Although not required, it is highly recommended to secure recommendations/references for the sororities at LSU by July 1. It helps foster the process by seeking out sorority alumnae who can provide the recommendation. Potential members provide each person who writes a recommendation with a picture, copy of the transcript and activity sheet or resume. In the interest of time, it is helpful to be proactive in this process. By registering with or notifying your city/alumnae Panhellenic that you are participating in recruitment at LSU, they will assist you in obtaining recommendations It is beneficial to have someone whom you know write these. Begin to inquire about and contact people whom you know from this area who were members of sororities: teachers family members neighbors family friends adult women you may know Let them know that you are participating in recruitment and that you'd appreciate their writing a recommendation/reference. Share the following addresses with them in order to send the recommendation/reference. Sorority Addresses for Recommendations: Baton Rouge, LA 70894 Chi Omega – P.O. Box 25109 Kappa Delta – P.O. Box 25107 Delta Delta Delta – P.O. Box 25105 Kappa Kappa Gamma – P.O. Box 25104 Delta Gamma – P.O. Box 25108 Phi Mu – P.O. Box 25111 Delta Zeta – P.O. Box 25117 Pi Beta Phi – P.O. Box 25110 Kappa Alpha Theta - P.O. Box 25112 Zeta Tau Alpha – P.O. Box 25102 It is always nice to acknowledge someone who writes a recommendation for you via a phone call or a thank you note. Very often, women may not know of anyone in this area who was a member of a particular sorority. In this situation, you may contact the national headquarters' website to inquire about the local person from their organization who coordinates their recommendations/references. Chi Omega www.chiomega.org Delta Delta Delta www.tridelta.org Delta Gamma www.deltagamma.org Delta Zeta www.deltazeta.org Phi Mu www.phimu.org Kappa Alpha Theta www.kappaalphatheta.org Kappa Delta www.kappadelta.org Kappa Kappa Gamma www.kappa.org Pi Beta Phi www.pibetaphi.org Zeta Tau Alpha www.zetataualpha.org Summer Recruitment Functions Learn more about sorority recruitment by attending an LSU Sorority Recruitment Information gathering and meet a representative of each chapter in the following locations. No RSVP necessary. June 21, 2-4 pm Lafayette and surrounding area Home of Ms. Melanie Goudelocke, 907 Richland Ave., River Ranch Subdivision, Lafayette, LA 70508. June 22, 1-3 pm New Orleans and surrounding area Home of Ms. Joan Mollohan, #7 Olympic St. Kenner, LA 70065 June 22, 6:30-8:30 pm Hammond and surrounding area Southeastern Louisiana University campus/Greek Village Hammond, LA June 28, 2-4 Alexandria and surrounding area YWCA 5912 James St. Alexandria, LA 71303 Welcome to Greek Affairs: Sorority Recruitment |
I am so glad I am not in the south, the idea that you have to be gorgeous and rich to be in a sorority, seems so cut throat
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LSU Rush
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LSU rush is typically what you look like, who you know, who are your parents, how much money your parents make & how much money your parents are going to give to your organization. Sorry if I piss anyone off with the previous statement, but hey, I;'m entitled to my opinion. If you feel differently, please don't hesitate to e-mail me & we can discuss. :) |
Ladies, Ladies, Ladies. There are so many threads about LSU rush I did not want to start another. I updated a link for new information. LSU RUSH would catch the eyes of those girls rushing. This thread is from 2001!
The sorority women of LSU do have beauty...on the inside where it counts. There are always exceptions to any rule.:) |
I find the process & customs of these big Southern recruitments fascinating! Court, you do have a point though. Not to fault the school, chapters, alums, or women going through.....but there seems to be a limited time to choose your new sisters and these seem to be the easiest methods...fair or not.
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Also, since LSU is just 3 characters long, if you search on LSU* you will find some results. Rush at LSU Help! Nervous about LSU Rush justamom-How's LSU? There are definitely additional threads too, but I got lazy after 3! :D |
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