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pink bunny 12-16-1999 01:41 AM

Vtgt79 hello, i think it is fine that you
joined the group that you felt most comfortable with. That is why we have a
variety of different greek organizations.
I think in the future we will see more
diversity in the greek system. I pledged
my sorority for several reasons one very important being that we have graduate chapters and work in our communities as a strong force. We believe that when you graduate that shouldn't be the end of your sisterhood or community service. We are a life long family across the country and over seas. I have yet to meet women from traditionally white sororities that share that same committment, it appears that sorority life stops after you graduate. Some
even laugh about the fact that they don't know or remember anything about or keep in touch with their sorority sisters. For me
Alpha Kappa Alpha is a SERIOUS matter and i
can't imagine after all the work i did to be
come a part of this wonderful organization to
just say "had fun" "see ya" after i graduate. I will work HARD and LOVE AKA until the day
i die.

pink bunny 12-16-1999 01:50 AM

Vtgt79 why were you ashamed of joining your sorority? I have never been ashamed of my decision to join AKA who cares what anyone thinks. And why were your pledge sisters uncomfortable with you pledging. If race really doesn't matter then why would they
have a problem with you being the first, second, or last to join their sorority. My line sisters always had my back.

SilverTurtle 12-16-1999 02:01 PM

Lil'Bit,
I read your response to me on the AKA board. I think it's great that there are folks of all races trying to improve race relations. For the most part I agreed with what you said. I didn't post there again because, well, I'm not an AKA http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif...and I didn't want my presence to inhibit, distract, influence, etc. anyone's posts there.

REGARDING GRADUATE CHAPTERS
My fraternity, Phi Beta, has alumni chapters. Our alumni are as dedicated to community service as the rest of the fraternity. Without the work of our alumni & alumni chapters, I doubt the fraternity would be as strong as it is. I guess you would say we are traditionally white, but our chapters are pretty diverse these days.

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Phi Beta Fraternity for the Creative and Performing Arts.
http://homepages.go.com/~phibetaphichapter/index.html

Lil' bit 12-16-1999 06:47 PM

Silver Turtle,
I guess I just sort of totally forgot about alumni chapters. I guess those are the same as our graduate chapters.. So... continue with the good work http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

SoCalGirl 12-16-1999 10:34 PM

To quickly revisit the "proud to be a black or white sorority"...everyone should be proud of their organizations no matter the ethnicity. The founders of all these organizations saw a need for what they did.

The "traditional NPC" sororities were founded by women who saw that women were not being treated as equals and not allowed to join the mens fraternities. The founders of the black organizations saw the same problems facing themselves.

These founders stood up for themselves and for thier "fellow kind" (I mean women, black women, black men, Jews, Asians, Latinos, etc.) and established groups to fit their needs.

These organizations are now open to all ethnicities and anyone belonging to them should be proud to be affiliated with an organiztion that stands for taking an initiative against injustices that they see.

Tillennium01 12-27-1999 10:45 PM

~What do the bi-racial people fit in? Now that is something to think about! ~

NOTE: I am not Greek.

I feel like this, if black women were ambitious enough to make an organization for black women, I am going to support the cause! We have 4 black sororities. If I didnt see that I fit in one of them, then I wouldnt join ANY sorority! (Not to mention, if I didnt get into the ONE I want to join outta the 4, I wouldnt join ANY!) Its not so much because its a black sorority and I am black! Its the history behind the black sorority that makes me want to join.

Tillennium01

Tillennium01 12-27-1999 10:49 PM

I wonder y its TSU thats gotta do such a thing! What is ur personal opinion about Tennessee State University as a whole?

Tillennium01

sigtau305 01-04-2000 04:35 PM

i'm a member of sigma tau gamma fraternity at cleveland state university in cleveland,ohio. I'm also an african-american. There was never an issue of race that was brought up by my chapter of the organization as a whole. Yes, there was at times during my pledge period that I was put down by the black greek organizations for pledging a "white" fraternity, but I haven't regretted it since then. Sigma Tau Gamma was the first to integrate minorities in the fraternity. I was the second african-american to join my chapter( the first one join in 1968). Being a sigtau is the greastest experience in my life. it also help me honed my leadership skills. because of that, it help me when I was past president of the n.a.a.c.p. college chapter at school as well as being vice-president of I.F.C. I've been very blessed to be part of a great organization and I will continued to stay involved.

SIGTAU 4 LIFE!!!

pink bunny 01-04-2000 09:01 PM

Sigtau305, I think it is great that today as an african american you have the opportunity to join a predominately white fraternity. Good for you. And on the surface that looks very good. But i like to look deeper then the surface. And below the surface why you would want so much to forge a brotherhood and adopt the traditions of an organization that didn't want you as a member and never had your well being in mind or that of your people until it became politically correct to do so is beyound me. That is probably what some of the black greeks were wondering. Your fraternity may never have brought up your race but don't be so "NAIVE". The very fact that Sigtau "had to intergrate" in the first place speaks for its self. In addition you are the 2nd black since 1968 to join your chapter. Why? Think about it. When people are denied something for so long when the opportunity arises to have that thing some people will go after it just to say "Hey i did it" or "I can have this" that's probably why that brother joined to prove something. Because it was a "FIRST". Why did You join? I am curious to know and of course you don't have to answer if you don't want to because you don't owe me an explanation. Good luck to you and I hope you do stay active with your fraternity. And i hope that you will also never have to encounter members of your fraternity who look at you in shock and think to themselves smiling "they pledged that black dude" which i would bet has already happened. Don't let your eyes decieve you.



pink bunny 01-05-2000 01:04 AM

Tillennium01 i agree with you in that i would not pledge a sorority (sisterhood) that traditionally did not love, support, or respect me as a woman and as a human being when i have the opportunity to bond with a sorority (my choice of four) who do love, support, and respect me as a woman and as a human being and not becuase they are trying to be polictically correct.


sigtau305 01-05-2000 02:38 PM

hey, pink bunny,
thank you for your response. very nice of you. I don't mind you asking me why I pledged. The reason started back when I was a student at a community college. One of my good friend ask me if i wanted ot go to a alpha phi alpha smoker. At that time, i thought it would be cool. I was supposed to be on line but i decided to wait because I was close to obtaining my associate of arts degree. At my first quarter as a student at cleveland state, I was in between classes, so I went to the unversity student center(a.k.a. the cage). There, i saw a whole bunch of fraternities with their rush tables, recruiting new members. I have check every one of them. The first table I came across that I came across was sigtau. I talk with the rush chairman and I was giving a flyer to attend a rush party. The second fraternity that I visited was phi beta sigma fraternity. They gave me some info. I went to two of the sigtau parties and I had a great time. then, I went to visit the fraternity house and I was impress by it. A week later, I was invited to a spghetti dinner. There, I recieved my bid. Pledge acceptance was on the follwing sunday. At the same time, Phi beta sigma had sent me a letter inviting me to their smoker. Now, what was wild about this was both on their stuff was schedule on the same day, which was sunday. It took me all the way towards the day before to decide which group would I benefit the most from. I chose to pledge sigtau because they were very friendly to me. Plus, they really want me to join.I feel I could make a impact with this group. So, I went that route and the rest is history. since then, there were three more african-americans that pledge after I cross. one of is currently an active brother as I. He came in spring'98. Hopefully, I have answer your question about I why I pledged. If you have any more questions, Please feel free to ask me. I'll be more than happy to answer.

p.s. I like your username. very cool(smile).

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pink bunny 01-05-2000 09:04 PM

Hello Sigtau305, Wow you were such the gentleman. Thank you for your explanation.
Take care Brother.

BIG_Crimsonguy 01-31-2000 03:53 AM

Hi everyone,

I am a proud African American male with a dilemma. I have been awarded a "bid" by two fraternities, one of them is historically black and the other is predominately white. I did all of my research on this particular BGLO and I came to love the organization on a national level. However, the particular chapter at my university leaves much to be desired. The entire chapter GPA is far below the national level minimum, the chapter does little community service and the members still seem to be able to maintain a high level of conciet. I kept my mouth shut during the interview process and the small get togethers because I wanted to appease the current brothers. I wanted to join badly because I respected its history, I had friends who were their sorors and because my best friends were active at other campuses. I felt that if I could "cross" and just stick with it, that I could enjoy the bonds with my other friends. However, I feel that the brothers in the chapter at my particular university are "lackluster" (compared to what i've heard and seen elsewhere) and after thinking closely, I'm not sure if I could enter into a bond with people who, at the beginning, I had the highest respect for, but after seeing who they where and what they were ultimately about, I have little if any respect for them. On the otherhand, I was able to rush a house in the IFC and I liked it. The members were really friendly towards me. I really had not ever considered going through rush but I went a long with a friend so that he wouldnt be alone. I was surprised and glad I did it. My whole problem is I really dont know what to do. I looked at the other 3 NPHC fraternities (one is suspended from my campus) at my university and for one reason or another, I couldnt picture myself in a bond with its members. Even though brotherhood is ultimately what I'm looking for, joining a predominately white fraternity would mean that I would rarely get the chance to enjoy the presence of my beautiful strong black sisters at our parties. Oddly enough, I couldnt picture myself getting along as well with any other "white" fraternity then I did with this one. I guess the truth is that when I feel compelled to join the NPHC because I know that long ago, many white greek houses where racists and didnt allow blacks and we had to do our own thing. I feel and see the strong history and traditions that have emerged in those organizations today. However, after thinking deeply with myself, I do not feel that I would enjoy myself or possibly even be a close brothers to the current members of the NPHC house at my university because ater hanging out with them for several months, I've come to realize that they're not what everyone make them out to be. On the other hand, the IFC house, who when I first me them seemed like a bunch of "tools", have probably turned out to be one of the most open-minded, friendly group of guys that I've met. I know that I'll probably get cold looks if I do the IFC thing but the truth is that my friends and family who I grew up with will always have my back and as long as I dont forget who they are, I can succeed at anything. Tell me what you think. I know that the decision is ultimately mine but what is your advice? And NPHC ladies (i.e. poodles, cats, elephants and frogs) uld you date a guy or attend a formal with him if he were in a predominantly white fraternity?

Thanks

BIG_Crimsonguy

pink bunny 01-31-2000 02:03 PM

Hello Big Crimsonguy as a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc. i believe that you know the answer to your question it is that which is closest to your heart. Hever if i were in your situation i would look at my motives for joining any greek letter organization. They all have different purposes and chapter characteristics vary from one chapter to another, your school's chapter may not be the best example of that particular organization. But if you really have a deep respect and interest in this BGLO then why not wait and join at the graduate level. I could have joined other sororities on my campus while AKA was off the yard but i did not want second best so i waited for what my heart really wanted and it was well worth the wait. Believe me you can still enjoy your college experience without being greek. Remember once you join another greek organization you can not join a BGLO later when you see a chapter that meets your expectations then it will be too late. Another option is that you could join the undergraduate chapter on your campus and help those brothers rebuild and strengthen their chapter instead of looking down on them, that is what true brotherhood is all about. It is easy to join what looks good but hardwork is the call of the BGLO because we are used to making what is not, WHAT IS. Our history is a history of perserverance not compromise. Don't compromise what you really want for the sake of being greek. Also why do you feel BGLO sorors would not attend parties at the white fraternity houses? Is your campus that racially divided? Why you would even consider joining a group where your own sisters would not feel welcomed is another issue all together. I think you need to ask yourself what is it that you really want. Do you want a life long brotherhood that is found across the country and the world or do you want a college experience that often ends at graduation. Think about it. Whatever your decision i wish you the best of luck in your greek endeavors.

AKAtude 01-31-2000 03:24 PM

Hello Big Crimsonguy,

I agree with my soror, Pink Bunny. You should evaluate your reasons for pledging and follow your heart. Even if the chapter of this particular BGLO does not meet your standards, then maybe you can make a difference by working from within. Maybe they can use your leadership abilities to help strengthen the chapter. I truly believe that a chapter can only be as strong as its members, but you have to be willing to put forth the effort.

Also, if the entire chapter has a GPA far below the national minimun, it seems as though those members should be placed on some type of probation for not maintaining the required GPA. Within my organization, everyone is expected to maintain the GPA set by our national headquarters or the chapter's required GPA if it is higher than nationals.

BIG_Crimsonguy 01-31-2000 11:39 PM

Hi Pink Bunny and AKAtude,

Thanks for your insight ladies, I have taken it to heart. I know it may seem that I am being a little impatient and that I am selling myself short but the truth is that I'm a junior and I dont have a lot of time. I considered waiting for a graduate chapter, but I'm really afraid of how selective they are and how you cant send them letters of interest. Also, my academic plans for graduate school will make it nearly impossible for me to make time for anything, much less being on line. My entire outlook on life (for the most part) is Carpe Diem. Someday when I'm old and grey, I want to be able to look back and say that I exhausted every oppurtunity imaginable and experienced everything I could. I dont want to spend the rest of my life wondering "what if?" The problem is that this situation does not meet that criteria. Choosing either would leave me with a permanent "what if I had done that?" situation. I feel like if I do either that I will regret it, but if I dont do either I will regret it. I dont know Pink Bunny, I pondered over your question "what do i really want" and its a number of things, some physical, some deeper then that. To some this question seems like and no brainer, but for some reason I feel stumped.

have a blessed evening

BIG_Crimsonguy

amandapss 02-03-2000 04:50 PM

I never had to make a decision on picking a group...at my school we are the only sorority on campus, but I couldn't imagine having to choose. I guess if I were you I would just pick which group you feel comfortable with. I wouldn't worry about the social situation...you can still meet a girl with the same background as you through other things. Whatever your decision is I wish you luck http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

masdumas 02-07-2000 01:54 AM

BigCrimson guy

I just read your post and I truly emphatize with your plight. I am a member of Phi Kappa Psi Fraternity and I am a Black man. I went through some of the same things you went through. Some of my situation was different as I was one of the Founders of my chapter (and now its alumni advisor) but some was the same. My family is full of APhiA and AKAs so they looked upon me with disdain and couldn't understand why I would want to do something like this. I simply explained that I thought it over and wanted to be with my friends. I went through a lot of crap from people at my school regarding my decision. The majority of that crap came from the other members of the BGLOs on campus who accused me of selling out. Let it be said right here: I don't sell out to anyone

I have also looked at the rest of the posts regarding this topic and I find most of them amusing. If you want to join a group based on race, creed, religion or color - great for you. However, make sure that when you are out recruiting mew members, you are speaking to everyone. Part of the problem is that we as Greeks overthink the recruitment process - make friends and ask them to meet your other friends and if they like each other ask them to join your group.

As for the Sigma Nus at TSU, good luck as we at Phi Psi are watching to see how it goes. I only hope that we can do the same thing one day.

As always, I'm proud to be a Phi Psi...

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Shelacious 02-10-2000 07:45 PM

Big Crimson Guy...

I am a "finicky feline" of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, and my "sister sorors" of AKA gave you some good advice. I would never advocate anyone join an organization based upon anything other than what you feel is in your soul to join. And I would hope that no one would be so shallow as to overlook a "good man", regardless of the organization with which he chose to affiliate. :-) I agree, hoever, that you should look beyond the chapter level with an eye toward assessing what each organization is about on an International level. I was always taught that the chapter is a conduit by which you become a member of the organization, not the end all/be all of the organization. Therefore, although I love my collegiate chapter, I was an active member of it for only 2.5 years, but will be a Zeta for life, regardless of chapter affiliation.

And on the Black/White issue...Zeta has always welcomed women who exemplify Finer Womanhood and embrace the principle of Service in the community, regardless of creed or race. Clearly, as a predominately African American Sorority, we accordingly have many more African American women than anyone else, but I have met Sorors who were Latina, Asian and White.

Illest Zeta on the Planet 02-11-2000 04:15 PM

Big Crimson Guy,

Just read your post and I have to agree totally with my soror's advice. You have to go exclusively with what is in your heart - if you don't it'll haunt you for the rest of your life. I know plenty of greeks with the same sentiments, who wish they would have joined th organization they intially sought to become a member of. Don't let racial issues deter your goal either. I went to a traditionally white institution in which a Black women joined a white sorority and eventually became the first non-white president of ISC. She got all types of looks of dislike and shame from those of her own race. It's difficult to assess my school situation because I attended the most segregated public university in America. Racial relations were and are strained and those Blacks who choose to join white fraternities and sororities are to some extent chastised, but mostly just ignored because they are so-called sell-outs. It's very sad. Bottom line - if you don't have an understanding of self and know which direction you are headed, no sorority or fraternity is going to help. You need to have your identity established before you do anything. Good luck!

SilverTurtle 02-11-2000 08:36 PM

BIG CRIMSON GUY: What a dilema! Here's my advice, hope it offers a good perspective. When I read your initial post I got the following impression:

You have had an interest in a specific BGLO, maybe even had your heart set upon it, for some time. You even took the time to research its history, which only made you more interested in it. Then when you met your potential brothers, they let you down a great deal. Which would cause you to question the national organization a bit (why do the brothers have such a low GPA, etc.), but still have respect for the national organization and its history.

At the same time, you happened to meet another bunch of guys in another GLO. You didn't have much interest, but as you spent time with the brothers, you began to grow to respect them a great deal. I don't know how much, if any, you have researched this GLO. If you haven't, you probably should.
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So, here's the advice part finally http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Your basic choice is between 2 things: 1) Do you want brothers you can have fun with and respect for the next couple of years, and then as an alumni for life
2) Do you want brothers who you can't respect in your own chapter, but you have a great deal of respect for their past and the national organization? And for the rest of your life you will be able to say 'I am a *BGLO letters here*'

If you respect both organizations nationally and historically, then maybe you would be just as proud, if not more so, to say you are a *fill in 'white' GLO letters here* in 30 years.

It seems to me that if you truly want to be a brother of the BGLO, you should wait for a graduate chapter. You could join now, but if you're the only brother interested in reviving the chapter, it probably won't work well. And that will just lower your morale about the whole organization. And if the brothers aren't interested in frat life for the same reasons you are, and you don't have much respect for them as a chapter, you're not going to like calling them brothers.

In your 2cnd post, you said you're a Carpe Diem kind of guy. If you're more interested in being greek right now, as an undergrad, then go w/ the guys you could respect as brothers (assuming you respect the national GLO's purpose, etc.) It sounds like you would kind of really like to become a brother here, but feel like you'll be 'selling out' if you give up on the BGLO.

I had absolutey no intentions of becoming Greek, and my sophomore year I went to a rush party w/ a friend, and now I can't imagine what it would have been like without my frat. I absolutely loved the brothers and sisters AND everything the fraternity stands for.

Your choice isn't easy, but I hope you make the decision you'll be happiest with! Good luck!


piglet3 03-06-2000 02:52 AM

I'm currently looking at a predominately black soroity, and I am white. Many of the females on campus in this soroity are aware that I am interested. I am a little unsure of how they feel about my interest. I feel this is the right soroity for me and I am willing to work hard. How can I make them see me as a female that is willing and able to break some of those barriers that have been formed throughout the years, instead of just a white female interested in their organization?

pink bunny 03-06-2000 05:31 PM

Piglet3 my Sorority Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc. has "ALWAYS" had an open door policy for any WOMAN who has a serious and dedicated attitude to seek sisterhood in our illustrious sorority. Eleanor Roosevelt a "white woman" First Lady of the US was a member of our sorority. If you feel you can contribute to an organization founded by African American Women then i say go for it.
And if you find that the women on your campus are not interested in you joining their organization based on your skin color alone then of course you are better off without them. Good luck.

piglet3 03-06-2000 05:43 PM

Pink Bunny, thank you for your reply and advice. I was never aware that Elenor Roosevelt was an AKA. That makes me even more determined to do this. As for the fact of those fellow sisters, I do not think it is all of them, just a select few. It may be because the majority of this soroity knows me and I guess they are shocked that I am interested. Don't get me wrong, it isn't all of the sisters making me feel this way. But from what I know, you can't change anything within an organization, unless you belong to it. Maybe, if I do make line, I can be that person to change things. I'll never know if I don't try.

AKAtude 03-07-2000 12:06 PM

Piglet3,

My undergrad chapter initiated a soror fall '98 who is white. Although I graduated four years ago, I keep in touch with my undergrad chapter. They say she exemplifies everything that AKA stands for. I met her at homecoming last year and I agree with them. She is someone I'm proud to call a soror. Good luck!

piglet3 03-08-2000 03:51 PM

poplife, thank you for your reply, but not to disrespect you or anything but AKA is not the soroity i'm looking into. but your advice is greatly appreciated. i wish you luck with making line. any one else with anymore advice, it will be taken to heart and thanked greatfully.

dstbrat 03-08-2000 05:27 PM

in choosing any sorority, it is most important that you fully understand its goals and values. bglo's all have open-door policies for those people who are willing to support the interests of the sorority or fraternity. often those include empowering and working in the african-american community. if you choose to seek membership you should be aware of that and be willing to work. lots of times people get caught up in the hoopla (stepping, struting, partying,etc) and don't truly understand that membership is a lifetime commitment not just something you did in college.

piglet3 03-09-2000 01:33 AM

dstbrat, thank you for your reply. i am aware that joining any bglo the majority of the work is done in the african-american community. i understand and am fully aware of that. i have no problem bettering that part of the community, i strongly feel that it should be done, not just by black, but by white also. im not really interested in just party walking, stepping, signs, or calls. it is the work that you do that interests me. we are in the year 2000, and we should better the world we live in today for our future and the future of our children.

mgdzkm433 03-09-2000 02:33 PM

I haven't been really keeping up on this specific topic, but I would like to say that the last comment was well put. It shouldn't matter what our color is, we should all be working together to help our communities and the future of this country and this planet. Desipite what people say and how the media represents us to society, greek orginizations are all about giving back to the community and we are all good people. Yes, we have parties, yes we know how to have a good time, but you know what, our parties are a celebration of pride. Pride that we have because we as greeks have made a difference in and around the world.

Mikki
Delta Zeta Alum
Kappa Mu Chapter
Sigma Alpha Iota Alum
Eta Tau Chapter


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"The trouble with self-made men is that they worship their creator."

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awatters 03-12-2000 07:08 PM

Integrating blacks and whites is not only right, it's essential to social progress. Traditionally black fraternities, though, are likely to stay black, whereas traditionally white fraternities will definitely change or be accused of racial discrimination. There just aren't many black guys at my school who aren't athletes. Ethnicity doesn't matter to me at all, so it's just a matter of who wants to check out my fraternity.

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andrew watters
Theta Chi

SigEpYoda 03-22-2000 08:11 PM

I always wonder, I'm an American citizen, but I was born in South Africa and my parents migrated from South Africa in the early 80s. And no, they didn't approved appartheid, and no, I'm not Dave Matthews. Am I considered an African-American. And I'm also an anglo, my family came to South Africa in the 1600s. What am I trying to prove, the real world doesn't care what color you are, just who you are and how you contribute to society.

awatters 03-23-2000 12:46 AM

Race is all in your head. There are genetically African ("black") men in fraternities who have way more in common with me ("white") than some criminal who is also black. Race is socially defined.

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Theta Chi – ucla

SoCalGirl 03-23-2000 04:41 PM

AWatters

Of course you could have said some black, actor, doctor, minister, Nobel prize winner...

I think I get what you were trying to get at though. Kind of like just because your a white guy doesn't mean you have anything in common with Jeffery Dahmer OR the Pope!

LaMestiza79 03-29-2000 12:53 PM

Hi Piglet3. We have something in common as far as wanting to joing a sorority whose majority members are of a different race.

However, being of a mixed racial background (3 races, 4 ethnicities!!) it makes it difficult for me to choose by race. I've always "fit in" in all kinds of different "groups" throughout my life.

I was wondering if you would mind if I emailed you sometime so we can chat about this off the message board.

LaMestiza

piglet3 03-31-2000 01:17 AM

LaMestiza-you can email me anytime, i really don't mind, just check my profile thing, it should have my email. i would glad to chat.

Harmonysong 04-26-2000 01:27 AM

OK, so here is my problem, I dont understad why....if we are all supposed tpo be equal then there are all "black" frats and sororities anyway. If any othere frat or sorority wanted to try to make themselves an all "white" organization then it would be discrimination. I just dont understand the logic here I guess. The same goes for Miss Black America...what is the point in it? You are discriminating against white people and we dont complain about it...but what you are also doing is discriminating against yourselves! Take a chance to break free of the group of people that you are with, I just dont understand what is going on with peoples minds today!

mgdzkm433 04-26-2000 08:59 AM

I'm not a member of a BGLO, but from what I understand, and my information might be off, but, BGLO's aren't just for African Americans. Recruitment is open to anyone of any race. The reson why they are considered BGLO's is because their organizations differ a bit (recruitement, government, ideals, purpose) from GLO's. They are traditionally black, and when they were governed under IFC and Panhell, they were not recieving the funding or support that GLO's were recieving, so they broke away and created their own governing body. Rightly so in my opinion. Because the were TRADITIONALLY black, they were then named BGLO's to signify the difference in organizations, not just because of color, but because of government. If any of my information is wrong, someone let me know, but this is how I understood it.

ZetaAce 04-26-2000 10:06 AM

Mgdzkm433,

You're correct! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif When BGLOs were first formed (1906-1922), the members weren't allowed in the other GLOs. Our organizations don't discriminate and people of other races/ethnicities are welcome to join.

ZetaAce

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Finer Woman10-A-91 04-26-2000 10:53 PM

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Just to clarify.
NPHC organizations are HISTORICALLY African American in origin. However, as of Y2K ALL of the NPHC organizations are multi-racial and have been for many years.

The National Pan Hellenic Council was formed in 1930, to unify idealogy and purpose.

The NPHC distinction is made to signify membership in one of the 9 member affiliated organizations listed below.

Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated
Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Incorporated
Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Incorporated
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated
Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Incorporated
Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Incorporated
Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated
Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Incorporated
Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Incorporated

BGLO is an acronym...signifying the orgin not affiliation, consequently there are other BGLOs that are not members of the NPHC...nicknamed the Divine Nine. Technically one would not interchangeably use the acronyms BGLO and NPHC.

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Originally posted by mgdzkm433:
I'm not a member of a BGLO, but from what I understand, and my information might be off, but, BGLO's aren't just for African Americans. Recruitment is open to anyone of any race. The reson why they are considered BGLO's is because their organizations differ a bit (recruitement, government, ideals, purpose) from GLO's. They are traditionally black, and when they were governed under IFC and Panhell, they were not recieving the funding or support that GLO's were recieving, so they broke away and created their own governing body. Rightly so in my opinion. Because the were TRADITIONALLY black, they were then named BGLO's to signify the difference in organizations, not just because of color, but because of government. If any of my information is wrong, someone let me know, but this is how I understood it.


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Salience 05-02-2000 12:17 AM

It warms my heart to see the thoughtfulness that goes into some of these replies. Kudos to all Greeks who strive for the betterment of humankind. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

I only wish "the real world" was as humanistic as you all want to paint it, but Amadou's death further signals that we are still too close to the Jim Crow days. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif


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