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There was only the short pan to the ground where you could see the letters. It was only really distinctive because of the "K" being larger.
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Re: Hazing
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i also earned my letters but wasn't abused doing so.
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You didn't earn anything
If you werent hazed, you didnt earn them. Hazing is the only real way to create the special bond me and my pledgesisters have. And the RESPECT I have for the older sisters. Without it, a sorority is more like a club, its a joke. :rolleyes:
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"'MOST" sororities do NOT haze. And we don't know what sorority you are from that you do not call "this stupid rock thing" hazing. I earned my letters by going through my new member education. I earned my letters by developing sisterly bonds with my class as well as with the initiated sisters. I earned my letters by taking ZTA into my heart before even really knowing what my letters meant. And I know this is true for 'MOST" sororities Your experience is NOT the norm and I hope that all non-greeks and prospective members who read this board are not swayed in their opinion of greek life by your ignorance. |
A) I'm sure I know and care about my organization and sisters just as much, if not more, and there was no hazing involved.
B) This thread is not about your opinions of how "great" hazing is...it's about the MTV show. If you want to discuss it further, post about it in the Chapter Operations or Risk Managment forum. End of discussion. |
ZTA MIami....you are obviously the ignorant one....most sororities do haze....and I know this because every sorority at my school does and all of my friends in different sororities from other schools do also...and I am part of a big national sorority where I know that the other chapters do also....everyone just lies to the national office....and makes up a fake plege program. I dont know how things are run in Miami....maybe you guys have beach parties and go tanning together during pledging...but i guarantee you that you do not have more respect for your sorority or closer bonds than I do. What you call hazing is not what i call hazing...i dont feel that i was abused...i was taught respect, courage, and pride in my sorority through my pledging experience...unlike you. I honestly feel sorry for you that you didnt even get a chance to earn your letters.
And no....this is not a hazing forum....but hazing was brought up many times in this forum because of the MTV show so just deal witgh it.:rolleyes: |
Lucky, you are obviously the type of person that hazing was created for. I am not shocked that you think it is okay. It seems that in your opinion, eveyone else doing it makes it right. That is probably why you joined your sorority, because everyone else did. Maybe you are right, maybe you do love your sorority more than the people commenting here. Or is that just what everyone else says?
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Okay, back on the subject...I saw a new commercial today and this one was actually more positive. It was clips of the girls goofing around (pillow fights, dancing around in their pajamas, signing into hairbrushes, talking, hugging). I was glad to see Candace and Jessica hanging out in the commercial; hopefully, the "sixth roommate" stigma will dissolve over the next few episodes.
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just a note on hazing from a former post of mine:
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Re: You didn't earn anything
Hmmm....let's see. Have a group of folks act like I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread, then treat me like shit by making me clean their toilets, run their errands, not allowing me sleep or bathing and make me look like an ass...all to do a complete 180 in 6-8 weeks when pledging is over...yeah, that's such a special bond!!! Sign me up! :rolleyes:
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Ha! Well put.
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First, I dont think the Rock thing was hazing. To me its one of the public rituals and just b/c something is mandatory doesnt mean its hazing IMHO. If thats the case Initiations could be considered hazing.
HOWEVER, I wasnt hazed and I just like many other GCer's earned our letters and wear them proud. No offense but if I have to be beat, or some other crap just to join something, its not worth my time and I have less respect for those people who are dishing it out. I will admitt though that somethings that are considered hazing are funny (i.e being tarred with rasberry sauce and feathers and rolling around in it) and I would probably do it just for laughs. Then there is iother hazing that is just stupid (ie walking to class backwards :rolleyes: and not being able to talk to anyone at a party and having to stand against the wall the whole night. I know someone who had to do these things). |
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I have to add my two cents in here. I know atleast in my chapter there is no hazing. We treat our new members better than anything else. The go first for everything, and as we always put it are treated like princesses. As for the concept that hazing could make your bonds better, that is just funny. Before I was a member, there were some insdences on hazing, and nationals came in and pulled a bunch of pins for it and many girls left the chapter. Now how in the world can this be said to be promoting the sisterhood of the sorority and making you earn anything. People lost more out of the situation then anything else.
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Hi. I actually go to UC Davis, and I dont think the rocks are hazing. It's looked upon as something prideful to do by most sororitys and fraternitys. I mean, I know actives in my chapter that have done it by themselves, without any pledges. Besides, doing the rocks once with that many girls is pretty easy. I have heard of groups on campus that do it multiple times in the pledge quarter, with a lot fewer pledges.
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Is this for real?
Is this a real sorority? It's ridiculous. It is so fake and makes all sorority girls look bad.
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Yeah, it is a real sorority. I haven't been active in my fraternity that long, so I haven't met many of them. But from what I hear, MTV is really making it seem like some of the girls on the show are really mean, or really nice, etc.
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the new MTV commercials
Has anyone seen the new "Sorority Life" commercials that show the pledge house girls having (obviously staged) pillowfights, etc? I happened to see it tonight.... it's terrible. They're trying to make it look like the show is interesting, I guess.
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Jordan is hot
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Honestly, most of my friends who were in sororities and I have just laughed at the program. It seems so odd to us how things are done and the creative editing that goes on. For all the pledges, it has to be a shock; the pledge period alone can be enough to handle without having to live in a house and have cameras follow you. Some of it isn't bad but I sure as hell would not want to be a part of this "reality" show.
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Thanks!
Thanks for the link. If you review the whole Pbase album, you can see
that all six of the "Pledge House Pledges" make it as far as Spring Formal. I can stop watching the show now. They're not going to kick Jordan out. Candace is not going to get royally busted. Thanks again for the link. It was good to see the sisters in a context not controlled by MTV. |
One more thing...
One other thing: It looks like Jordan dumps her boyfriend:
http://www.pbase.com/image/2117670 Go Jordan!! |
so what did we all think of last night's episode?
i think they treat jessica like shit for no reason, just to be petty and catty. they are all in the same sorority, alll "pledges", why do candace and jordan seem to think they are somehow superior? jordan should have totally dumped her boyfriend, he was being a jerk and i think she could do better. ok, and if my sisters ever cought any new members drinking and not fullfilling their sober sisters requirements, shit would certainly hit the fan. it seems like if these girls do anything wrong, they just get talked to. they don't get in actual trouble. just my $.02. |
agreed
they seem almost hesitant to force a confrontation...
you either do your thing correctly or not and leaving poor jessica hanging because you were drinking is not right. :eek: |
Should it be called the jordan & candace show
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And what the heck is up with Candace. I think I'm going to start calling her the conspiracy theorist. That girl is so paranoid that the sisters are out to get them in trouble, if I ever felt that way then I wouldn't want to be a part of that organization. Poor Jessica. What must she have thought once she saw this episode and the fact they totally dogged her regarding sober sister. Kudos out to Jessica for taking advantage of that and to MTV for showing it. |
i definately dont think i dig this show...can we say 'its candace and jordan time' ??? foreal.. ugh...
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I find myself wondering whether MTV showed the final product to the sorority members before airing them. Seems to me that some of them need to do some major damage control... for instance, Candace owes Jessica a major apology for that sober-sister thing. And did the sisters know the new members broke the no-alcohol rule, or did they find out on Monday night along with the rest of us?
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I've watched each episode so far. I'm pretty disappointed in the show, because there's very little sorority life in the Sorority Life series! I'll keep watching though, because I hope that there's some good that comes out of the series instead of the Candace and Jordan focus that we see so much of.
Although some things have been a questionable (that scene from the recruitment event showing the Sigma members discussing PNMs on camera, for example) I've enjoyed seeing the sisters of Sigma on the show. They seem to care deeply about their organization and their sisterhood and I wish they were on camera more. I'm really glad that there were sisters who made sure that Jessica got home safely, and proud of Jessica to know that she didn't need to be driving that night! I hope she makes it through and is initiated into Sigma because I just like Jessica. I wish we could see the entire New Member class instead of those living in the New Member house. I wish there was more about the day to day life of the sorority and it's members, and not just the few members that MTV are focusing on. I wish there was a disclaimer so that PNMs nationwide who view the show would know there really isn't such a thing as a "Pledge House" for sororities. I'd like to see the other girls living in the "Pledge House" and not just Candace and Jordan 90% of the time. I'm sure they're both nice young women having fun, but the image that MTV has given both of them hasn't been that complimentary. Christin |
i have come to the conclusion the pbs or someother respectable channel should do a documentary on what it is really like.
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I heard somewhere (that makes this a rumor and I'll label it as such) that Jordan will become an MTV VJ as a result of this show. Boy, there's some journalistic integrity for you! They may be nice young women. They may be gold diggers who pledged just to be on MTV. They may have been planted by MTV. Who knows? I'd be very interested to hear from someone from Davis whether they were undergraduates there before this whole thing began. Does anyone know them? Were they, in fact, recruited by MTV? The point, I guess, is that day to day sorority life simply isn't exciting enough for "reality" TV, so MTV has manufactured the Pledge House and only shows scenes it can control and that will "sell." But we all expected that going in. Didn't we? I wonder how many women will rush/pledge "Sigma" next year and want to live the the Pledge House -- which will be gone. This whole program is manipulated. It would almost be funny -- if it weren't so sad. |
Funny thing...
I went to the Sigma website today for the fun of it, and from the looks of it, only Mara and Jessica decided to stick it out, because the others aren't listed on the active sister roster, which is pretty small. |
i thought there was an active jessica and mara and pledge jessica and mara...at least, thats the impression i was under...so maybe they just havent posted the newest initiates yet, is that possible?
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warning: this post contains show spoilers
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I read on a spoiler site that Jordan and Candace don't initiate so she'll have plenty of time to do whatever MTV wants her to. |
hmm
these are their pics from initiation. i don't see any of those new girls. http://www.pbase.com/image/2962549 |
If you look at the Sigma Rocks pics (dated AFTER initiation) are from the Rock climing/making letters with rocks episode that just aired...
So, who makes it is still a mystery! TG |
Ahem...
Zuma: Different Mara and Jessica (actives with the same names).
PhiStar: That pic is from the UCSD initiation on 4/13. The girls from UCD chartered a new chapter. Go Sigma AEPi! TrojanGirl: The rocks pics are from 4/17 and the Spring Formal was on 5/18. If anyone doesn't make it it will be VERY late in the quarter. So far all the discussions (the scenes from Episode 1, in particular the conversations with Leah and Leslie) have centered around letting all the girls pledge and losing anyone who's not sincere through attrition. If they change their tune in late May (the 9th or 10th week of the quarter right before finals), that a really big deal. Of course it's always possible one or more pledges might decide not to initiate, but I don't really see why someone would stick it out that long and not go all the way. Bottom line is the sorority is eager to build up it's numbers and is being liberal about taking people in. Remember they are not in panhellenic and do not benefit from structured rush or a quota system. Don't you girls know anything about how a sorority is run??? (I am just kidding please don't flame me). Ouch, I guess this show has me hooked, I'll probably keep watching even though I'm sure I won't be surprised... |
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