Usually, when something like this happens, its a very small minority of the organization. Kinda when they talk about hazing and how the small minority overpowers the majority and lets things happen. People need to stand up and stop this!!!!


Most likely, they did get off with less than severe penalties. In this case, the punishment didn't fit the crime. People need to quit acting foolish and hiding behind the 1st amendment..

Re: Let them both die out slow.....
 

Damn, I missed this one lol.

Rather than me trying to defend myself lets pretend Prophet is right in his implication that I am as sick as they (the chapters in question) are. Being sick would still not preclude me from having the right and option of excercising my freedom of expression.

Even forms of expression that piss the rest of you off.

I am not sure which part of this a lot of you are having trouble comprehending.

This is actually one of the better points in this thread in terms of application.

If the chapter is visibly boycotted, NPC sororities not doing mixers, attending their parties, or accepting be paired with them during Greek Events. We will see the chapter wilt visibly.

IF we go a step farther and people do editorials in the school paper as well as take out commercials on the school tv and maybe put up some posters with the pictures on it around campus, the chapter will be devestated.

The final step would be to actually stage protests before the houses larger attempts at parties. Get out there before the guests even show up and have video cameras taping people the people that enter the house. Then you could spend a few minutes of editing and splice the film together and put together a quick "video of shame" that would be released weekly and show the faces of the people attending the party along with some funny as hell commentary.

Example: "Yo, must be a freshman tricked out like a ho like that going into the most racist house on campus." Split screen shot with the noose-wearing-young-poster-children-for-birthcontrol and the freshman face. Follow up dialogue: "Damn freshmen girls are desperate for the cock to go in there".


Sheez people, its not that hard to break any house on a given campus. Just pay me a consultant's fee and I'll come down there and set up the program for you.

I am a little toungue in cheek but also serious. Remember, South Africa could deal with the world hating it, but it couldn't deal with divestment.

So, a more serious question: A lot of NPC women are posting on this thread.

1. Will you be calling/writing your chapters at Auburn and telling them not to associate with this chapter?

2. Will you be sending the same message to your National?

3. Don't you think its more likely that the NPC chapters will likely just keep on mixing and associating as usual?

If the answer to one and two are no, perhaps you should be a little less passionate about condemning the chapter when you have an easy option to do something meaningful. Talk is cheap when action is easy.

Are you going to do the same thing? If you answered no to any of the questions, shut the !@$# up!

I agree with James.

If a chapter does something you don't agree with, or continues to support individual members that have done something you don't agree with, freeze them out. It's far more effective than revocation of charter or campus recognition. As several members of this board know forcing a group "underground" really does very little to make them go away...if the campus populace in general supports them, and thinks the reasons for their revocation were bogus, they will continue to exist. The continued success or failure of these groups will be determined by the Auburn campus community, not by anything school officials or national officers do.

marissa said basically the same thing back on the first page of the thread.

I don't agree with what the American Nazi Party says, but I will defend their right to say it. I'll also defend my right to call them bleeping bleepholes as they walk down the street, or have a counter-rally when they have whatever Nazi-fest they have planned, or boycott any businesses they own and urge others to do so.

I am being unclear, or you are being inattentive, I am not condemining the chapter in any passionate way therefore I don't fall under the conditions I listed.

However, for those of you that are passionately involved, for those of you that are condemning the chapter in the strongest terms, for those of you that believe the chapter's actions should have consequences, you have an easy and effective way of impacting that chapter in a negative fashion.

Whether your convictions will translate into actions is on your conscience, I was just giving you options.

Eaglechick19, in the interest of harmony I will reread my posts and see if I do indeed match the criteria to "shut the !@$# up!". Or whether I actually suggested that people should do that lol.

Actually, I don't see that I have an obligation to do anything.

If I'm sitting around talking with my friends, and they say, "So, what do you think of George Bush's Middle East policy?" and I say, "Well, it sucks," do I then have an obligation to write to George Bush (who would probably care less what I say) and tell him how I feel?

No! I don't have an obligation to force-feed my advice to other people who aren't seeking it.

If I were to contact anyone, it would be my sisters in the area. And as you may have noticed, there is an AXD on this discussion topic who is much closer to the situation than I am. Clearly, she has seen my opinion already, and she disagrees with me. Then who does that leave me to influence?

We all have a right to have opinions and even to discuss them without acting on them, especially when we are physically, emotionally and socially distant from the events in question. If it were my own campus, I would feel obligated to act. But I've never been to this campus, nor do I personally know anyone there.